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#openttd IRC Logs for 2016-01-07

---Logopened Thu Jan 07 00:00:53 2016
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02:04<__ln__>good morning at -12.3 °F
02:07*Supercheese shivers
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05:11<Wolf01>o/
05:13<V453000>HELO
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06:11<V453000>yay frog
06:12<frosch123>it's a V
06:12<Wolf01>quak
06:13<frosch123>and a W
06:13<@planetmaker>moin
06:13<V453000>heyo
06:13<V453000>I pushed a product pm :)
06:14<V453000>not only at the toilet
06:14<@planetmaker>:)
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10:04<frosch123>lol wut
10:04<frosch123>factorio 0.12.21 ate all my modules :p
10:04<frosch123>hmm, no, not all
10:05<frosch123>oh, maybe i just go insane
10:05<V453000>factorio be innocent
10:06<V453000>I actually still have like .12.14 here ... no time or need to update XD
10:10<V453000>... having made trello is great, but sometimes it is quite daunting to see how many tasks there are, and each task often generates many new sub-tasks XD yesterday I finished new tubular bridges. When I saw the renders today morning in the game, I added 9 sub-tasks to actually fix them XD
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10:58<frosch123>o/
11:04<@Alberth>hi hi
11:05<@Alberth>I hacked eints somewhat, still needs to check if it makes more sense now :)
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11:36<m1cr0man>Hey lads. I'm setting up a server on CentOS 7 atm but im hitting a brick wall with this error: http://u.m1cr0man.com/lh9m I have unblocked ports 3979 and 3978 udp + tcp through iptables, but still no luck
11:37<m1cr0man>Is there some catch with selinux?
11:38<m1cr0man>actually nvm its disabled
11:39<@Alberth>if you type the ip address manually at another machine, you should be able to connect
11:40<@Alberth>although likely, it won't work, or the advertising would work too :)
11:41<m1cr0man>yeah, it doesnt
11:45<@Alberth>the fire wall in the router of the ISP?
11:46<Taede>is that link to your error hosted on the same machine? because its timing out for me
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12:39<argoneus>V453000: you made trello?/
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12:45<@Alberth>o/
13:00<Eddi|zuHause>trololo?
13:04<V453000>...
13:04<V453000>yes I have a trello board, I did not create the server.
13:05<@Alberth>obviously, you need trello to write such a program :p
13:05<frosch123>yeah, trello and factorio all made by the same guy... that would be a bit much
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13:06<@Alberth>really wtf :)
13:06<V453000>wat
13:07<@Alberth>nvm :)
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13:16<frosch123>V453000: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1449329702#1449329702 <- for context :p
13:19<andythenorth>o/
13:19<andythenorth>there is no sufficient context
13:20<V453000>?
13:20<V453000>I get it not
13:20<@Alberth>at the Internet, you don't need context, do you?
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13:21<andythenorth>there is no context that would be enough to make sense of all of this
13:21<andythenorth>you’d have to keep going up to next level of context
13:21*andythenorth may be talking crap :P
13:23<V453000>so andythenorth how the uncontexted fuck are you doing?
13:23<andythenorth>well
13:23<andythenorth>dunno
13:24<andythenorth>got an ebay addiction
13:24<andythenorth>also not finished FIRS
13:25<V453000>ebay addiction?
13:26<frosch123>moar lego
13:26*andythenorth trains
13:26<andythenorth>not buying
13:26<andythenorth>just looking
13:26<andythenorth>then deciding that it’s way too much money
13:26<andythenorth>feels like saving money = morally good eh?
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13:28<V453000>:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
13:28<V453000>sounds ill
13:29<andythenorth>ebay so over-priced
13:29<andythenorth>‘efficient markets’ my arse
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13:29<V453000>I spent whole afternoon fixing some retarded technical issues in my bridges causing some artifacts ... then I made new tubular bridges which I did not like at all so I threw them away ... and made version 3 which looked cute at the first sight, but in the game they glitch and carry other problems. Luckily I will be able to make them work I think ... though it will take some effort
13:30<m1cr0man>has anyone tried to connect to a server through an ssh tunnel?
13:30<m1cr0man>I got my earlier problem solved (previous firewall rules were set to send openttd traffic to a VM)
13:33<@Alberth>V: for some reason, you always need a few test runs before everything falls into place :)
13:33<andythenorth>wow, if only
13:33<andythenorth>when I was a kid I had a lot of model trains
13:33<andythenorth>if I’d only kept them boxed and pristine
13:34<andythenorth>they’d now be worth slightly less than they cost
13:34<V453000>well in this case the "tubular" part of the bridge is slightly huge, so it overlaps with trains going under it
13:34<andythenorth>after inflation
13:34<V453000>among the other shit
13:34<V453000>haha andythenorth
13:34<@Alberth>tbh I would really like to have bridges where you can clearly see the trains
13:34<andythenorth>minimalist?
13:35<frosch123>m1cr0man: no, but ssh -L 3979:<remote>:3979 should no the trick
13:35<andythenorth>nobody ever does a simple plate girder bridge, eh :P
13:35<m1cr0man>yeah, thats what im trying
13:35<V453000>Alberth: yeah they are half-transparent and rest is completely transparent
13:35<V453000>:)
13:35<andythenorth>http://www.readingrr.com/lines/belt/files/010.jpg
13:35<V453000>in fact the version 2 was a bridge with just small railings on each side
13:35<V453000>but it looked too basic, not modern and shit
13:35<andythenorth>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/SteamAcrossIowaRiver.JPG
13:36<@Alberth>those are my kind of bridges :D
13:36<V453000>point :)
13:36<V453000>issue is when you put a fat road on this, it looks weird
13:36<V453000>flying road
13:37<frosch123>m1cr0man: if you want to "find" the server within ottd (i.e. not enter 127.0.0.1), you also need port 3978
13:37<m1cr0man>oh!
13:37<@Alberth>but yeah, it may be tricky to get it look right
13:37<frosch123>hmm, actually not true
13:37<frosch123>server qeury is also 3979
13:37<V453000>as NewGRF bridges only for trains, absolutely - I find for example the monorail pipe-only bridges awesome
13:37<V453000>but as base set-ish bridges, probably not
13:38<V453000>still, stuff like original base set cantlievers aint happening here :)
13:38<V453000>all bridges are kind of visible
13:39<m1cr0man>frosch123, yeah didn't work
13:39<m1cr0man>I have aa working VNC connection forwarded
13:39<m1cr0man>so ik its not my ssh
13:40<andythenorth>http://techbreezy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Pamban-Bridge.jpg
13:40<andythenorth>http://myrameswaram.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/survived-a-major-cyclone.jpg
13:40<V453000>andythenorth: draw bridges for us?
13:40<V453000>the world needs YOU
13:41<andythenorth>it does?
13:41<V453000>deadline is yesterday, thank you, the community demands it
13:41<andythenorth>community eh
13:41*andythenorth checks diary
13:41<andythenorth>bit busy
13:41<V453000>SHAYM
13:42<andythenorth>I knoooow
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14:21<Eddi|zuHause>IT'S ALIVE! (sort of)
14:23<Eddi|zuHause>i switched out the router to a newer model, for the new internet that (probably) gets installed tomorrow
14:23<Eddi|zuHause>and in the old one i manually set an ip, but i couldn't reach the new one under the (supposed) default ip...
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14:24<Eddi|zuHause>... and i couldn't figure out how to set up dhcp in linux without an internet connection...
14:24<Eddi|zuHause></endofmonologue>
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14:27<__ln__>congratulations for getting a new internet
14:34<Eddi|zuHause>well, i was fine with the old one, but they insisted...
14:36<@planetmaker>and now you download the whole internet?
14:36<@planetmaker>or did you move it to the trash bin?
14:44<Eddi|zuHause>in other news... i have a fancy new space station, but two of the solar panels refuse to unfold, says they are "stowed"...
14:44<Eddi|zuHause>and i don't know how to "unstow" them...
14:46<Wolf01>you are lucky, i'm connected at 1.8Mbit/s now
14:46<Wolf01>new year, same problems
14:46<Eddi|zuHause>it wasn't that long ago when i was connected with 384kbit/s
14:47<Wolf01>instead of?
14:47<Wolf01>because i'm paying for 7Mbit
14:47<Wolf01>also the connection now is really unstable
14:51<Eddi|zuHause>i'm currently on 16Mbit (shared between the neighbourhood), they're upgrading to 50Mbit (individually for each house)
14:51<Wolf01>i just opened a new ticket to the customer support
14:52<Eddi|zuHause>i suppose the shared line is actually bigger than 16mbit, just that is the uppoer bound of what i can use
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15:11<andythenorth>bbl
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15:33<Xaroth|Work>I found a new loading screen for openttd: http://imgur.com/qPBYKAs.gifv
15:33<Wolf01>:o
15:34<V453000>holy sheit
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15:37<Eddi|zuHause>i don't get .gifv... why not just call it .mp4 which it actually is?
15:38<Wolf01>i agree
15:38<Xaroth|Work>Eddi|zuHause: because it's an auto-convert from .gif
15:38<Eddi|zuHause>Xaroth|Work: no it's not
15:38<Xaroth|Work>if you change it from .gifv to .gif
15:38<Xaroth|Work>it'll show you the same image, only then in gif format
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>if you change the extension to .mp4 you get the actual video
15:39<Xaroth|Work>you can even change the extension to .jpg
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>Xaroth|Work: if at all, the gif is an autoconvert from the mp4
15:40<Eddi|zuHause>and the .gifv is just a wrapper around the video
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>if you look at the source, you see it's just a standard <video> tag
15:41<Xaroth|Work>if you upload a .gif to imgur
15:42<Xaroth|Work>it automatically converts it to a .mp4 and creates a .gifv page to show that
15:42<Eddi|zuHause>Xaroth|Work: that may be true, but it's very likely not what happened to this video
15:42<Xaroth|Work>it actually converts to either webm or mp4
15:42<Wolf01>it's still useless.. just show the mp4 or the gif
15:43<Xaroth|Work>http://blog.imgur.com/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/
15:43<Wolf01>oh, so it's just a looping video...
15:45<Eddi|zuHause>yes. it is plain and simply a wrapper around the mp4 (or webm)
15:58<Eddi|zuHause>hm, this contract wants me to build a mun base... that would probably be easier if i had a method to assemble objects in place...
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16:00<Eddi|zuHause>like a forklift or something
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16:25<Aphid>I'd like to actually setup a repo/project for my GS; where do I proceed? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/ask_new_project is a 404 apparently.
16:25<V453000>XD
16:25<V453000>that tells something
16:25<V453000>ask frosch123 or planetmaker me thinks
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16:27<frosch123>Aphid: try that url with http instead of https
16:27<frosch123>it is only a redirection anyway
16:27<frosch123>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/issues/new?issue[description]=Hello%2C+I+would+like+to+request+a+project+on+your+DevZone%2C+my+work+is+or+will+be+GPL+and+therefore+legitimate+to+be+hosted+from+you.+More+infos+follows%3A&issue[priority_id]=7&issue[subject]=Applying+for+project%3A+%3Cname+here%3E&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=4&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=3&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=115&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=254&tracker_id=6
16:27<frosch123>to that beast :p
16:27<@planetmaker>:D
16:27<Aphid>That actually works
16:27<@planetmaker>right, but we can handle that now
16:28<Aphid>Well, at least you've got an idea of how to fix the broken link, that's nice
16:29<@planetmaker>I mean, tell me what repo and project you need and I can create that right now :)
16:30<@planetmaker>also the simple link works http://
16:30<@planetmaker>thus our rewrite for https seems borked
16:30<@planetmaker>^Spike^, that's something for you ^ ;)
16:30<Aphid>I just filled in the form... well for as much as I could
16:31<Aphid>#7959 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7959 -- code attached.
16:31<frosch123>^Spike^: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home <- the link on that page works, https://dev.openttdcoop.org/ <- on that one it is broken
16:32<@planetmaker>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/citybuilder-gs <-- that's a different city builder, Aphid ?
16:32<^Spike^>.....
16:32<^Spike^>i made a rewrite mistake? :)
16:33<@planetmaker>no, probably just something anyone ever requested :)
16:33<Aphid>http://binaries.openttd.org/bananas/gamescript/CityBuilder-114.tar.gz should be the correct link. Same file in principle.
16:34<Aphid>And yeah the dude's project is a diffrent one.
16:34<frosch123>http://bananas.openttd.org/en/gs/ <- "simple city builder" vs "city builder" :p
16:34<@planetmaker>:) ok
16:34<^Spike^>i see the redirect seems gone :)
16:34<@planetmaker>I need a name suggestion :P
16:34<frosch123>maybe we should ban the word "city builder" for being too generic :p
16:34<Aphid>Yeah it could do with a rename
16:34<^Spike^>or rather in the wrong place :D
16:35<^Spike^>fixed! :)
16:35<@planetmaker>well, I don't care too much how you actually call it. But I need a name for the repo URL; that can't be changed. The rest can
16:35<^Spike^>note to self: when you add forced https also make the proper redirects good :)
16:36<@planetmaker>and citybuilder-gs is already taken :)
16:38<Aphid>towngrowthadjuster-gs?
16:38<@planetmaker>sure, if you like that :)
16:43<__ln__>semi-offtopic: does the mankind have the technology to blow up the moon? probably not?
16:44<@planetmaker>Aphid, all should be set now
16:44<@planetmaker>please verify and complain, if not :)
16:46<Aphid>Well I'mma see if I can get the repository working.
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17:17<Aphid>So as far as I get it, I need to upload an RSA key to the mercurial repository to be able to push to it... where?
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17:55<@planetmaker>Aphid, no, not to the repository. Attach it to the issue so that I can upload it to the server
17:55<@planetmaker>Aphid, or send me a link
17:55<@planetmaker>here on IRC
17:55<@planetmaker>sorry, I thought we already had your key
17:55<Aphid>It's in the issue
17:56<Aphid>(The output of the command that prints my public key file I generated for the site. )
17:56<Aphid>It's the stuff after 'ssh-rsa <crypto here>', correct?
17:58<Aphid>#7961 at https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7961
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