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---Logopened Fri Jan 15 00:00:05 2016
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02:51<dihedral>good morning
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04:00<Wolf01>o/
04:15*dihedral howls
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04:19<dihedral>what nick did Dominik Scherer have here?
04:26<dihedral>nevermind
04:31<@planetmaker>"... I mean mainly enabling the 8bpp blitter which many players want to do, and now do through the config which is a bit eww ..." <-- yes... but there's really no reason. The 8bpp blitter nowadays most often doesn't offer much benefit... only thing I'm not sure about atm is palette animation
04:31<@planetmaker>^@ V453000
04:32<@planetmaker>as such it's a purely technical setting which users don't have to care about one way or another, as you can use the 8bpp graphics just fine with the default 32bpp blitter
04:32<V453000>well if 32bpp has performance issues, 8bpp helps ... also, when people join a server which uses 32bpp graphics and want to turn them to 8bpp mode, they could
04:34<V453000>especially since 32bpp newgrfs have to supply their 8bpp sprites as well, it is very visual switch, not just technical
04:35<V453000>the fact that 32bpp newgrfs do not give much shit about 8bpp sprites is another story, yeah
04:35<@planetmaker>that is the more weired thing really ;)
04:35<@planetmaker>the 32bpp newgrfs have to have 8bpp
04:35<V453000>yes, well ... it is kind of understandable, I do not believe 8bpp will ever stop being "the main thing"
04:38<@peter1138>we should drop 32bpp
04:38<@peter1138>it's crap
04:38<@peter1138>also drop extra zoom, that's crap too
04:41<@peter1138>shame that opengl is inefficient for this type of game
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10:13<Flygon>I prefer 8bpp..
10:13<Flygon>More performance.
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10:21<supermop>use 2bpp then?
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10:30<@Rubidium>0bpp is fastest
10:30<@Rubidium>it also reduces the size of OpenTTD significantly because we can remove everything user-interface
10:35<Eddi|zuHause>-b null?
10:35<V453000>XD
10:35<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: not rigorous enough
10:36<Eddi|zuHause>./configure --enable-dedicated?
10:36<@peter1138>just remove the code
10:36<@peter1138>else you might have bugs
10:36<Eddi|zuHause>bugs in dead code are the worst.
10:37<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: nope, still leaves loading strings and such
10:37<@peter1138>they often... roam...
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10:54<Wolf01>now I'm happy, I just purchased 450€ of LEGO
10:57<Eddi|zuHause>studies show that happiness from objects doesn't last very long
10:57<Eddi|zuHause>(one of the reasons why "more money" doesn't automatically mean "happier")
10:59<Wolf01>but this is LEGO
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11:25<dihedral>until you tred on it
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11:49<@Alberth>hoi
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11:59<frosch123>hola
12:01<Wolf01>o/
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12:09<frosch123>everyday i read "Australian AuzTrains and NSFWTrains" ...
12:09<frosch123>i had too much internet
12:11*frosch123 wonders whether BRIX ships will just be boxes with "don't use ships"
12:11<@Alberth>or not enough topics :p
12:12<@Alberth>trains on water :p
12:13<@Alberth>hmm, needs articulated ships then :p
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12:17<Eddi|zuHause>isn't that already wetrails?
12:18<Eddi|zuHause>well, in TTO you could run trains on water, but only on diagonal shore sections
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14:29<Aphanasiy>Anybody here?
14:29<Wolf01>no?
14:30<Aphanasiy>hello
14:30<Wolf01>hello
14:30<Aphanasiy>could you, please help me to find some russian mods, except xUSSR
14:31<Wolf01>I don't know any
14:32<frosch123>Aphanasiy: forums.ttdrussia.net <- try there
14:32<frosch123>oh, it does note exist anymore?
14:33<Aphanasiy>it's died, so I'm here
14:33<frosch123>then, i doubt there are any except xussr
14:34<Aphanasiy>any ways to connect with ttdtussia admin?
14:34<frosch123>i don't know them
14:34<Aphanasiy>maybe try to find out from Only For Friends?
14:36<frosch123>Aphanasiy: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1067984#p1067984 <- most are on ttdrussia
14:36<frosch123>if that site is gone, i don't know where they could have went
14:36<frosch123>they did not show up on tt-forums
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15:07<supermop>hmm you cant build a bridge under a bridge
15:07<frosch123>you can build a bridgehead under a bridge
15:08<supermop>was wondering if i could have a rail deck under a road deck
15:08<supermop>alas i cannot
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15:11<supermop>oops
15:11<supermop>wish you could start a game directly from SE
15:13<Wolf01>iirc you could build some types of bridges over some others, but with some limitations (2 levels between the bridges) or that was discarded because of glitches?
15:16<supermop>doesnt seem to work even with 3 levels btw
15:16<Wolf01>have you tried with a suspended bridge?
15:17<supermop>yeah
15:19<supermop>brb need to buy either a 150cm board or aluminum L-angle as the joists in my ceiling go the wrong way relative to direction i want to suspend my bike
15:22<Wolf01>mmmh I bet that feature was in MiniIN
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15:57<supermop>patchpack?
15:57<Wolf01>yeah
15:57<Wolf01>I was really addicted to patches at that time
15:58<Wolf01>now I play every game vanilla, with some exceptions (skyrim, minecraft...)
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16:07<supermop>i play vanilla or similar up until a naging feeling tells me it would be much nicer if i just had one different building or train etc in there,
16:07<supermop>then i spend a couple hundred hours down a rabbit hole drawing or modelling stuff on that idea
16:08<supermop>the i realized it's a huge pain, and give up for a few months
16:08<supermop>few months later i'm bored and think, ok i'll just play a quick, small vanilla game
16:08<supermop>and cycle repeats
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17:14<supermop>forgot how to cheat
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17:58<Eddi|zuHause>@calc 2*290*sqrt(2)
17:58<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: 820.243866176
18:00<Eddi|zuHause>@calc 2*890*sqrt(2)
18:00<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: 2517.30014102
18:00<Eddi|zuHause>@calc 890*sqrt(2)
18:00<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: 1258.65007051
18:00<Eddi|zuHause>@calc 870*sqrt(2)
18:00<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: 1230.36579926
18:01<argoneus>bleh, visual studio can't into makefiles
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18:29<Wolf01>'night
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19:13<drac_boy>hi
19:13<drac_boy>been quite a while heh....anyone up to anything interesting grf-wise? :)
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19:37<drac_boy>hi smoke
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20:03<drac_boy>mm going upstairs for now...perhaps tomorrow
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