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| 02:26 | <Samu> | hi |
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| 03:26 | <Wolf01> | moin |
| 03:27 | <@peter1138> | hmm, this mouse pointer behaviour is bugging me :S |
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| 03:36 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
| 03:37 | <@Alberth> | hi hi |
| 04:07 | <Wolf01> | meh, I'm stupid, I reinstalled the apps on my phone so I lost all the related data |
| 04:31 | <@Alberth> | you seem to be doing a lot of installing stuff |
| 04:32 | <@Alberth> | or is it just now? |
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| 04:32 | <Wolf01> | I replaced the SD card yesterday |
| 04:33 | <Wolf01> | and the phone said "there's a problem with the app, reinstall it" |
| 04:33 | <Wolf01> | for all the apps I installed in the SD |
| 04:34 | <Wolf01> | the problem is that if put back the old SD, it sees the apps I didn't reinstall, but not the reinstalled ones |
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| 04:35 | <Wolf01> | and in the new SD it sees the reinstalled ones but not the old ones |
| 04:36 | <Wolf01> | I should have moved all the apps in the internal memory instead of copying them |
| 04:42 | <@Alberth> | ugh, pseudo-smart software :( |
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| 05:32 | <@Alberth> | quak |
| 05:33 | <frosch123> | hoin |
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| 05:44 | <Wolf01> | bsod copying a file to the SD O_o |
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| 05:49 | <@Alberth> | :O |
| 05:54 | <Wolf01> | nice, the sd seem to be TFU |
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| 05:56 | <Wolf01> | explorer crashed |
| 05:56 | <Wolf01> | teracopy hanged |
| 05:56 | <Wolf01> | wow |
| 06:01 | <Wolf01> | forced reboot... |
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| 06:22 | <Wolf01> | mmmh, a problem with the usb hub root now :| |
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| 06:38 | <Samu> | re-hi |
| 06:52 | <Samu> | Wormnest: what do you think of that score now |
| 06:52 | <Samu> | i added 2 more columns |
| 06:55 | <Samu> | gelignAIte wins the efficiency column, and that is odd |
| 06:55 | <Samu> | but I don't know of a better formula |
| 06:56 | <Samu> | formula is: best income of the last 2 years |
| 06:56 | <Samu> | formula is: best income of the last 2 years / total number of road pieces |
| 06:56 | <frosch123> | hmm, i guess you do not need to barrel up oil anymore, when you chain of refineries arrived at the next oilfield |
| 06:59 | <@Rubidium> | Samu: that reminds me of a trick by some AIs to build bridges instead of road pieces because the bridge was cheaper |
| 06:59 | <@Rubidium> | (and the vehicles weren't fast enough yet to require a faster bridge) |
| 07:02 | <Samu> | hmm how are bridges and tunnels counted towards road pieces? |
| 07:03 | <@Alberth> | start with empty world, check road pieces, build bridge, check road pieces, build tunnel, check road pieces |
| 07:05 | <Samu> | oh wow |
| 07:05 | <Samu> | tunnel entrance, 8 road pieces |
| 07:06 | <Samu> | that's odd |
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| 07:06 | <Samu> | 8 pieces per each tunnel and bridge section |
| 07:07 | <Samu> | i thought it would be 2 |
| 07:08 | <@Rubidium> | tunnels are generally more expensive to maintain |
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| 07:22 | <Wormnest> | Samu: I would add a description of what efficiency is to the forum post since that is not obvious in itself |
| 07:23 | <Wormnest> | Besides that maybe change efficiency to also take into account number of road stations relative to number of vehicles? |
| 07:24 | <Wormnest> | Although then you might favor ai´s that make longer routes relative to those that favor more shorter routes |
| 07:29 | <Samu> | how do I make the relation between road stations, number of vehicles, income and road pieces in a single formula :P |
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| 07:31 | <Samu> | number of vehicles / number of road stations |
| 07:31 | <Samu> | let me see what this results in |
| 07:33 | <Wormnest> | The problem with that can be ofcourse that ai´s that completely fill up the roads with vehicles get a high score |
| 07:33 | <Wormnest> | which isn´t very efficient |
| 07:35 | <Samu> | nocab averages 38 rvs per station |
| 07:35 | <Samu> | oops mogulai* |
| 07:36 | <Samu> | NoCAB is strange |
| 07:36 | <Samu> | many unused stations |
| 07:38 | <Samu> | i don't really know what this score shows |
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| 07:41 | <Samu> | cluelessplus got 356/356 stations served |
| 07:42 | <Samu> | 100% served |
| 07:43 | <Samu> | (total number of vehicles / total number of stations) * (number of stations served / total number of stations) = ??? |
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| 07:49 | <@Alberth> | profit! |
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| 08:01 | <Wormnest> | In the end it all depends on what you define as efficient |
| 08:02 | <Wormnest> | While most ai´s will just try to get the highest profits |
| 08:02 | <Samu> | that formula is giving a very bad result to nocab |
| 08:02 | <Samu> | and giving a very huge result for mogul |
| 08:02 | <Samu> | I don't think this accounts for anything |
| 08:03 | <Wormnest> | Well nocab is careless with road pieces and stations |
| 08:03 | <Samu> | still calculating, wonder what result terron gets |
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| 08:08 | <Samu> | PAXLink beats NoCAB for worst result |
| 08:10 | <Samu> | 7.506 for terron, not the highest score, but also not the lowest |
| 08:12 | <Samu> | best score: 36.095 for mogul |
| 08:12 | <Samu> | worst score: 1.079 for PAXLink |
| 08:13 | <Samu> | seems like it favours least number of serviced stations over very long distances with the most road vehicles used |
| 08:14 | <Samu> | or maybe not |
| 08:14 | <Samu> | nocab also does that |
| 08:14 | <@Alberth> | this is how you can prove anything with statistics |
| 08:14 | <Samu> | oh, nocab actually serves a huge number of stations |
| 08:14 | <Samu> | and has an even huger number of stations not being served |
| 08:17 | <Samu> | RoadAI got 2nd best score, 14.360, CluelessPlus 3rd best score, 14.042 |
| 08:17 | <Samu> | let me see their games |
| 08:18 | * | Rubidium wonders how much rail one is going to replace when it takes 48 hours (busy bit of track closed for 48 hours for unscheduled maintenance since Friday afternoon) |
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| 08:23 | <Samu> | i can't see any relationship by just looking at their stations, seems like the formula makes no sense |
| 08:25 | <Wolf01> | I bet this will be a hard treasure hunt... the game data aren't on the dedicated folder |
| 08:26 | <Samu> | roadai is pure buses |
| 08:26 | <Samu> | clueless plus if both buses and industries |
| 08:26 | <Samu> | mogul is pure industries |
| 08:27 | <Samu> | what they have in common is the number of vehicles per stations |
| 08:27 | <Samu> | but that's just it |
| 08:27 | <Samu> | their construction methods differ a lot |
| 08:28 | <Samu> | roadai distances aren't even that large as the others |
| 08:30 | <Samu> | seems like roadai would be a good cargodist AI |
| 08:30 | <Samu> | it makes different connections by reusing the same stations |
| 08:31 | <Samu> | mogul is simple greedy point to point |
| 08:31 | <Samu> | with the hugest distances from the 3 |
| 08:32 | <Samu> | no reusing of stations for other connections, just a mass number of vehicles for each connection, like 44, 37 and so |
| 08:32 | <Samu> | well, whatever, the formula doesn't seem to prove anything |
| 08:33 | <Samu> | seems more like a "station reuse" formula rather than an efficiency formula |
| 08:34 | <Samu> | not even reuse, ehm... mogul doesn't reuse |
| 08:35 | <Samu> | i dunno |
| 08:35 | <Samu> | i give up |
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| 08:47 | <Samu> | back to trains testing |
| 08:48 | <Samu> | denver & rio grande is doing something stupid |
| 08:48 | <Samu> | there are no more diesel engines |
| 08:48 | <Samu> | since he can't replace the trains, he's just selling those turner turbos as they get old, no replacement |
| 08:49 | <Samu> | his profit graph is slowly diminishing |
| 08:49 | <Samu> | why don't he convert to maglev |
| 08:49 | <Samu> | or build as maglev |
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| 08:50 | <Samu> | MailAI must be stuck ever since electrified rail became available, that's since monorail |
| 08:50 | <Samu> | his log is repeating the same thing everytime |
| 08:51 | <Samu> | i'm testing on sub-arctic, there's no "electrified railway" at least, but he seems to be dealing with this the wrong way |
| 08:52 | <Samu> | there's a jump directly from diesel railway to monorail, which is electrified |
| 08:53 | <Samu> | AIAI server has attracted 4 human companies |
| 08:54 | <Samu> | he's beating them |
| 08:54 | <Samu> | keks |
| 08:55 | <Samu> | FastPTPAI also attracted some human players, he's still beating them yet, but... he's not that great past the early game |
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| 10:41 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
| 10:43 | <andythenorth> | o/ |
| 10:45 | <Wolf01> | I bet tomorrow I'll make some of my friends stunned, I'll bring my lego slizers collection to the exposition :P |
| 10:47 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | suddenly game is not dying |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | not newgrf, anyway |
| 11:01 | <andythenorth> | world and dog is making things |
| 11:05 | <@Alberth> | :) |
| 11:19 | <V453000> | `yo |
| 11:28 | <andythenorth> | lo V453000 |
| 11:28 | <V453000> | hihi |
| 11:30 | <Wolf01> | http://www.smre-greentech.com/trucks.php andy, electric trucks! |
| 11:30 | <Wolf01> | hi V |
| 11:34 | <V453000> | considering to buy a macbook |
| 11:34 | <V453000> | had enough of win10 and moderately shitty laptop |
| 11:35 | <Wolf01> | buy a good laptop at half the price of a shitty macbook |
| 11:35 | <@Alberth> | install Linux :) |
| 11:36 | <Wolf01> | and use gimp? |
| 11:36 | <Wolf01> | XD |
| 11:36 | <@Alberth> | blender, more likely |
| 11:37 | <Wolf01> | (not that gimp is a shitty software, it's just difficult to use as hell) |
| 11:37 | <@Alberth> | nah, you haven't tried blender yet, then :p |
| 11:37 | <Wolf01> | I tried blender once |
| 11:37 | <Wolf01> | I think I removed any memory about it |
| 11:38 | <@Alberth> | :D |
| 11:38 | <Wolf01> | now I use only sketchup |
| 11:38 | <@Alberth> | it's probably a problem with professional software, it's impossible to use for non-professionals |
| 11:46 | <V453000> | yeah I just converted dollars to czk |
| 11:46 | <V453000> | thing is I don't need performance when I am on the fly |
| 11:46 | <V453000> | but a laptop with normal disk and windows shit, is almost unusable |
| 11:46 | <V453000> | it feels like it is 15 years old |
| 11:46 | <V453000> | linux is not an option |
| 11:47 | <V453000> | due to adobe and shit |
| 11:47 | <@Alberth> | then the choice is simplez |
| 11:48 | <V453000> | well normal laptops with SSDs aren't exactly cheap either |
| 11:48 | <Wolf01> | my sister purchased a laptop with win10 and ssd for just 1100€ to work as colourist... and play games |
| 11:48 | <andythenorth> | V453000 you know my opinion :P |
| 11:48 | <V453000> | for 1100 euros I can have a 13 inch macbook air |
| 11:48 | <andythenorth> | yes and you would regret it |
| 11:48 | <andythenorth> | macbook air is like buying a calculator |
| 11:48 | <V453000> | XD |
| 11:48 | <andythenorth> | they are underpowered PoS |
| 11:49 | <andythenorth> | joke computer |
| 11:49 | <V453000> | guess that is exactly what I needed to hear :P |
| 11:49 | <andythenorth> | it’s a poser’s device |
| 11:49 | <Wolf01> | my lumia 950xl is better, at least I can play minecraft |
| 11:49 | <Wolf01> | XD |
| 11:49 | <andythenorth> | why the Macbook Air exists, I do not know |
| 11:49 | <@Alberth> | for those posers |
| 11:49 | <V453000> | so if air is trash, are any of the others better andythenorth ? |
| 11:49 | <andythenorth> | if you want an underpowered lightweight computer, buy the 12” macbook |
| 11:50 | <andythenorth> | otherwise buy a proper Macbook Pro, that is a proper computer |
| 11:50 | <V453000> | I don't want to spend that much on it probably, but the lowest Pro would come in question |
| 11:51 | <andythenorth> | I use mine for work, and usually they last 1-2 years |
| 11:51 | <V453000> | dualcore 1,1 ghz sounds like a typo |
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| 11:51 | <andythenorth> | mine costs me £2.19 per day if it lasts 2 years |
| 11:51 | <andythenorth> | I spend that much on coffee |
| 11:52 | <V453000> | XD point |
| 11:52 | <@Alberth> | so no more coffee for andy :) |
| 11:52 | <andythenorth> | when I get a new one the old one is sold, and macs usually sell used in uk for ~30% of new cost |
| 11:52 | <andythenorth> | sometimes more |
| 11:53 | <andythenorth> | so actually more like £1.40 / day |
| 11:53 | <V453000> | not so bad |
| 11:54 | <andythenorth> | do you need a lot of storage? |
| 11:54 | <andythenorth> | Apple sell SSDs *expensively* (of course) |
| 11:54 | <V453000> | nah |
| 11:54 | <V453000> | storage is what desktop is for :) |
| 11:55 | <V453000> | does it run factorio? :D |
| 11:55 | <andythenorth> | apparently |
| 11:55 | <andythenorth> | I would get something like this http://www.apple.com/cz/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MF839CZ/A&step=config# |
| 11:55 | <andythenorth> | and bump to 16GB |
| 11:55 | <andythenorth> | CPU is fine |
| 11:56 | <andythenorth> | mine is about equivalent, mostly not slow |
| 11:56 | <V453000> | that is what I am looking at |
| 11:57 | <andythenorth> | lightweight, solid, quick, battery life insane compared to my last one |
| 11:57 | <V453000> | how does it handle overheating when under load for a few hours? |
| 11:57 | <V453000> | cause I feel like every single laptop I had, had huge issues with that |
| 11:57 | <andythenorth> | overheating? |
| 11:57 | <andythenorth> | it gets hot, if that’s what you mean |
| 11:58 | <andythenorth> | like, you wouldn’t want it on bare skin |
| 11:58 | <V453000> | normal then :D is that the reason for why it lasts "just 2 years"? |
| 11:58 | <andythenorth> | no, it’s just there’s usually a new one |
| 11:58 | <andythenorth> | so I scrap it |
| 11:58 | <V453000> | XD |
| 11:58 | <andythenorth> | ‘scrap’ = sell |
| 11:59 | <V453000> | I get it |
| 11:59 | <andythenorth> | this one dates from 2013 or so |
| 11:59 | <V453000> | I will consider it |
| 11:59 | <V453000> | it is a lot still |
| 12:00 | <Wolf01> | the only reason for me to purchase a mac is because I might need to compile apps for iOS |
| 12:00 | <V453000> | might just wait until current laptop finally melts |
| 12:00 | <andythenorth> | FWIW I have always had the expected Apple level of service |
| 12:00 | <andythenorth> | I know people who haven’t, I know a lot of mac users, and some get lemons and Apple don’t always do the right thing |
| 12:01 | <andythenorth> | but I have owned probably 20 macs now, and the company has owned maybe over 100 |
| 12:01 | <andythenorth> | probably more tbh |
| 12:01 | <andythenorth> | never had a lemon or a problem Apple refused to fix |
| 12:02 | * | andythenorth will now change subject to trucks :P |
| 12:03 | <V453000> | I will consider it, but definitely not right now |
| 12:04 | <V453000> | is shitload of money for a vacation / internet computer |
| 12:05 | <V453000> | will probably rather invest it into some nice extra car stuff later on |
| 12:12 | <V453000> | might just slap some SSD into the current laptop and see how it fucks |
| 12:13 | <V453000> | I would expect a 500 euro laptop to work somewhat ok |
| 12:13 | <V453000> | but it's a nightmare |
| 12:14 | <Wolf01> | V453000, about the rocket, what about use it for express delivery? you could make 200 silos for 200 different items and load them up like trains, then request a parachuted payload of stuff from every remote place of the map where you are |
| 12:15 | <V453000> | XD |
| 12:15 | <V453000> | sounds meh |
| 12:15 | <Wolf01> | it will cost you a lot just to receive a bunch of rails XD |
| 12:16 | <V453000> | but controlling the coordinates with combinators would be fun ... I would like something less "space rocket"though, more surface ish :P |
| 12:17 | <frosch123> | use the rocket to shoot mirrors into orbit |
| 12:17 | <frosch123> | the more mirrors, the less night |
| 12:19 | <Samu> | number of recently serviced-stations is misleading |
| 12:20 | <Wolf01> | btw, radar satellite and ion cannon satellite would really be a good choice |
| 12:20 | <Samu> | if the station is both lorry and bus, and i only service a bus, it still counts as 2 stations |
| 12:21 | <Samu> | counts that i serviced both |
| 12:21 | <frosch123> | Wolf01: isn't the "lore" of "ion cannons" that they only work against machinery? |
| 12:21 | <Samu> | is this correct? i only serviced the bus part of the station |
| 12:22 | <Wolf01> | nah, they blew up the Temple of Nod and Kane with the ion cannon |
| 12:23 | <Samu> | look at the tooltip, then look at the orders, i've only serviced 2 stations, but it counts 4 |
| 12:23 | <Samu> | http://i.imgur.com/uZe0TSM.png |
| 12:23 | <frosch123> | maybe it needs a laser drill like in those sc2 missions |
| 12:24 | <Wolf01> | the only thing I never understood it was on RA2 when you had tesla troopers which were shielded against the electricity... and they where killed by enemy tesla coils too |
| 12:25 | <Samu> | the airport is not serviced at the moment |
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| 12:28 | <Samu> | does anyone have origina ttd at hand? |
| 12:28 | <Samu> | how does it count there? |
| 12:28 | <Samu> | or there is no detailed info? |
| 12:30 | <Samu> | is the counter bugged or is it working as intended? it seems bugged for me |
| 12:33 | <@Alberth> | does original ttd even have detailed performance? looks a bit unlikely |
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| 12:35 | <Samu> | i dont remember |
| 12:36 | <Samu> | if the counter is counting differently than I think, then i probably have some skewed results in the AI score test |
| 12:37 | <@Alberth> | it's all arbitrary numbers anyway :) |
| 12:38 | <@Alberth> | if the stations are all pretty much the same, the ratio isn't that far off |
| 12:40 | <Samu> | maybe i'm misinterpreting the tooltip? |
| 12:41 | <Samu> | it doesn't seem right anyway |
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| 12:42 | <@Alberth> | tooltip seems to use "station" in two different meanings, to me |
| 12:52 | <Samu> | seems wrong in my opinion, it is artificially inflating the performance of a company |
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| 12:54 | <@Alberth> | there is no objective notion for "performance", imho |
| 12:54 | <Samu> | (and skewing my results) |
| 12:54 | <@Alberth> | the concept is too generic |
| 12:54 | <@Rubidium> | it's like asking what the best car is |
| 12:55 | <@Rubidium> | without exactly defining what "best" is, there is no way of saying |
| 13:02 | <@Alberth> | Am I right in thinking that fileio.* is low-level file io, fios_gui.cpp is the gui for file operations, and fios.* is for everything in-between? |
| 13:02 | <@Alberth> | Trying to add a scenario tar file format, but I consistently fail |
| 13:03 | <@Alberth> | there seems something wrong with fios.* but I can't put my finger on it |
| 13:06 | <Samu> | hi glx, did you find a way to fix yesterday's redirector stuff?:o |
| 13:06 | <+glx> | no, it seems MS broke stuff |
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| 13:07 | <Samu> | t.t |
| 13:13 | <Samu> | the first train AI is reaching 2051 |
| 13:14 | <Samu> | FastPTPAI |
| 13:16 | <frosch123> | Alberth: look a the console commands for browsing the filesystem |
| 13:17 | <frosch123> | and then open the "load game" window in parallel |
| 13:17 | <frosch123> | iirc that shows a lot of things that are "wrong" :p |
| 13:18 | <frosch123> | the fios stuff is quite state-ful |
| 13:18 | <frosch123> | in places thate are usually not |
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| 13:29 | <Samu> | FastPTPAI reached 2051! |
| 13:30 | <Samu> | next 2 are MailAI and AdmiralAI, nearly finishing at the same time |
| 13:31 | <Samu> | only 23 days separating each other |
| 13:31 | <Samu> | once again AdmiralAI surprises me how it effectively uses CPU |
| 13:31 | <Samu> | and while having 2100+ trains |
| 13:35 | <andythenorth> | in other news |
| 13:35 | <andythenorth> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt6ko-qYWuw |
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| 13:49 | <Samu> | Denver & Rio Grande finished |
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| 13:52 | <Samu> | the last 10 years for Denver & Rio Grande was bad |
| 13:53 | <Samu> | it has quite some bugs |
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| 14:15 | <@Alberth> | frosch123: ugh, indeed |
| 14:15 | <@Alberth> | all too old and just extended locally |
| 14:21 | <@Rubidium> | andythenorth: how "fast" is "fast" in that clip? |
| 14:22 | <Wolf01> | http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Strip-Coders-graph-650-final-1.jpg exactly XD |
| 14:22 | <andythenorth> | Rubidium: I’m guessing 60mph |
| 14:23 | <andythenorth> | Wolf01: the first guy (black jumper, spikey dark hair) |
| 14:24 | <andythenorth> | that’s me |
| 14:24 | <andythenorth> | looks like management |
| 14:25 | <Wolf01> | :D |
| 14:26 | <V453000> | :) |
| 14:26 | <andythenorth> | looks like me too :P |
| 14:27 | * | andythenorth should make Hog |
| 14:27 | <andythenorth> | but is too angry about EU referendum campaigning |
| 14:28 | <frosch123> | maybe read the german media about it :) not sure whether they would make you laugh or cry though :p |
| 14:29 | <andythenorth> | :P |
| 14:29 | <andythenorth> | in or out, I didn’t really care so much |
| 14:30 | * | andythenorth back to trains |
| 14:31 | <Samu> | DictatorAI reached 2051, but without building a single train |
| 14:31 | <@Alberth> | and not bankrupt? that's good :p |
| 14:32 | <Samu> | managed loan qute well |
| 14:33 | <Samu> | think i'm gonna exclude it from the list |
| 14:34 | <Samu> | AIAI is the last to finish |
| 14:35 | <Samu> | slows down the server from time to time |
| 14:35 | <frosch123> | andythenorth: one article with a big headline talks about some small town, which once had an brittish army place, and what happened after it closed down. result: bakeries stay, brothels vanish |
| 14:35 | <Samu> | needs 10 more years |
| 14:36 | <Samu> | choochoo is finishing in a few months, it kind of disappointed |
| 14:37 | <Samu> | doesn't replace old vehicles, doesn't upgrade them, keeps building routes but there's no more diesel engines available |
| 14:37 | <Samu> | doesn't switch to monorail or maglev either |
| 14:39 | <Samu> | oh, he has a few unfinished monorail and maglev routes |
| 14:39 | <Samu> | :( |
| 14:39 | <Samu> | i expected better, maybe limiting number of buses to 0 is handicaping him somewhat? |
| 14:39 | <Samu> | I don't know what went wrong |
| 14:42 | <andythenorth> | frosch123: hard to know what general conclusion to draw from that :) |
| 14:44 | <Samu> | AIAI server is having fierce human interaction |
| 14:44 | <Samu> | interesting |
| 14:46 | <Samu> | ChooChoo finished |
| 14:46 | <Samu> | last one remaining, AIAI |
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| 14:46 | <Samu> | i don't have time to test more AIs today |
| 14:52 | <Arveen> | you need an AI to test AIs |
| 15:12 | <Wormnest> | Also why do you open up your ai test servers for humans if you want to compare them under equal circumstances |
| 15:19 | <@Alberth> | original author of NoCAB is gone and no longer reachable? else you could ask for ownership of the project |
| 15:20 | <Wormnest> | I think he replied once this year |
| 15:20 | <Wormnest> | on the forum |
| 15:21 | <Wormnest> | I don´t really want to take over just wanted a working ai without problems :p |
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| 15:24 | <@Alberth> | ownership is just taking over the stick :) |
| 15:24 | <@Alberth> | you can do as much or as less as you like |
| 15:25 | <@Alberth> | but otherwise, WorkingCAB ? :) |
| 15:26 | <@Alberth> | MovingCAB :p |
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| 15:27 | <Wormnest> | YesCAB ;) |
| 15:27 | <@Alberth> | haha :) nice one |
| 15:28 | <@Alberth> | MaybeCAB :p |
| 15:36 | <Wormnest> | The name is not gonna be a problem lol. Let´s if I can come up with some save/load improvements first. |
| 15:38 | <@Alberth> | would be nice |
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| 15:53 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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| 17:07 | <Samu> | AIAI server is ending, last month |
| 17:08 | <Samu> | he beat the humans in profit, i'm surprised |
| 17:08 | <Samu> | red human surpassed him once |
| 17:09 | <Samu> | it's over 2051! |
| 17:12 | <Samu> | AIAI created a log size of 580 MB (608.456.870 bytes) |
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