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02:34<andythenorth>o/
02:43<andythenorth>supermop: feel like drawing any cargos? o_O
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03:47<Wolf01>o/
03:48<Wolf01>andythenorth, https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgUFeOGLNNfVg7QPx9UZrvlAJ_6Mng
03:49<Wolf01>I tried to make the yeoman truck :P
03:49<andythenorth>ha
03:50<andythenorth>voxels :)
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05:24<andythenorth>much FIRS bugs :|
05:48<andythenorth>Wolf01: are you planning a 32bpp branch of Road Hog? o_O
05:48<Wolf01>nah
05:48<Wolf01>I'm just practicing with voxels
05:48<andythenorth>I like voxels
05:48<andythenorth>if I made a 3D game, ever, I’d use voxels
05:48<Wolf01>I'm making tanks for my game
05:54<Wolf01>oh, the 4D simulator was a success :D I just need to refine the controls
05:55<andythenorth>good
05:55<Wolf01>too bad you can only assign a control to a port and not the ports to a control :/
05:55<andythenorth>servos and manual switches
05:55<Wolf01>I would like to drive 3 ports with one control
05:55<andythenorth>stack the connectors? :P
05:56<Wolf01>no, each motor should be controlled alone
05:56<Wolf01>but for "difficult" movements you need to control up to 3 motors at time
05:56<andythenorth>software :P
05:57<Wolf01>I should try scratch
05:58<Wolf01>but then I won't use anymore the smartphone for the sbrick
05:59<Wolf01>I'll need to use the laptop
05:59<andythenorth>write an app? o_O
05:59<andythenorth>https://xkcd.com/349/
06:00<Wolf01>ha
06:02<Wolf01>mmh it seem I have a lot to study https://social.sbrick.com/wiki/view/pageId/11/slug/the-sbrick-ble-protocol
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07:02<Leanden>andy
07:02<Leanden>added a new set of coaches to my GRF, but oddly im now getting this error when compiling:
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07:03<Leanden>nmlc ERROR: Syntax error, unexpected end-of-file
07:06<andythenorth>Leanden: missing “
07:06<andythenorth>or similar
07:06<andythenorth>most likely
07:06<andythenorth>Leanden: also, when you have done a few more releases you might want to look at templating the code
07:06<Leanden>i cant think where from
07:07<andythenorth>does nmlc give you a line number for the error?
07:07<Leanden>id love to but the code is inconsistent due to the liveries and consist sizes
07:07<Leanden>nope that is all it says
07:07<andythenorth>hmm
07:07<andythenorth>is it all one big file currently?
07:08<Leanden>no its pnml files that im combining
07:08<andythenorth>ok that’s a good start
07:08<andythenorth>you know how to turn them off by commenting out the import line?
07:09<Leanden>yes but ive just found my error now anyway lol
07:09<andythenorth>standard
07:09<Leanden>i left off the closing } from the item blocks
07:11<Leanden>silly me :D
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08:08<Wolf01>V453000, construction robots don't seem to work right
08:09<Sacro>wtf
08:09<Wolf01>o/ sacro, long time no see
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09:27<supermop>andythenorth: wedding next week
09:28<supermop>so a bit busy
09:28<andythenorth>ha :)
09:28<andythenorth>fair
09:28<supermop>possibly, but fly to HNL early saturday
09:30<supermop>between now and then, need to sew some japanese fabric into a tie, cast 5 more concrete placecard holders, get decking ordered for one of my clients whose project breaks ground tomorrow, buy a belt, maybe buy new oxford shoes (fiancee wary of the loafers and monks i had picked out)
09:32<supermop>get a couple hiking shirts, do laundry, finish pricing set drawings for a boutique gym in brooklyn,
09:32<supermop>then maybe design and cast a few planters with the left over cement
09:34<supermop>what cargoes were you thinking of?
09:35<andythenorth>not sure, need ideas
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09:42<supermop>hopper of lego?
09:49<andythenorth>:P
10:01<supermop>forgot need to get a giclee print job ordered too!
10:02<andythenorth>I have a paper cargo :P
10:04<Wolf01>I have a paper plane!
10:05<Wolf01>Not su useful heh
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10:38<supermop>andythenorth: surely paper is just white cylinders?
10:38<andythenorth>yup
10:38<andythenorth>done that one
10:40<andythenorth>edge case
10:41<andythenorth>open trucks refit to bulk and piece cargos
10:41<andythenorth>if the cargo does not have dedicated sprites, I need to use some generic cargo sprites
10:41<supermop>yeah throw whatever in there
10:41<supermop>boxes?
10:41<andythenorth>for bulk trucks, I use grey (gravel)
10:41<andythenorth>for piece goods trucks, I use boxes
10:41<supermop>tarp or canvas?
10:42<andythenorth>yeah, has to be I think
10:42<andythenorth>I have oil being drawn as gravel currentlyy
10:42<andythenorth>not good :P
10:42<supermop>tan/olive/brown before 1950, grey or blue after
10:42<Eddi|zuHause>surely you can check whether a cargo is bulk or piece even if the label is unknown
10:42<supermop>andythenorth: tar sands
10:42<andythenorth>I wondered
10:42<andythenorth>it’s only one more switch eh?
10:43<Eddi|zuHause>(mind that cargos can be both)
10:43<andythenorth>yeah
10:43<andythenorth>that was why I didn’t immediately do that
10:43<andythenorth>I can even detect liquids and so on
10:43<Eddi|zuHause>well, you just pick a preference
10:43<andythenorth>but tarpaulin might be simplest
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11:15<Eddi|zuHause>youtube suggestions as terrible as always. what else is new?
11:16<Eddi|zuHause>like, a black thumbnail with two brigt dots and a red arrow, tilted "what is this!?"... doesn't get much clickbaitier than that
11:18<Eddi|zuHause>well, it's missing boobs. and red circles. :p
11:21<Eddi|zuHause>also, loads of makeup tutorials.
11:21<supermop>but does it claim that I won't believe what happens next?
11:21<Eddi|zuHause>and drama
11:22<andythenorth>lawks
11:22<andythenorth>youtube suggests me some truly offensive things
11:22<Eddi|zuHause>between 4th tier youtubers that i have never heard of before
11:22<andythenorth>not often
11:22<andythenorth>but occasionally
11:24<Eddi|zuHause>sometimes i wish i could blacklist channel names or video titles as "i never want to see this"
11:25<Eddi|zuHause>like any video containing the word "PRANK"
11:26<supermop>i do that on FB
11:26<supermop>when i can't bringmyself to unfriend my mom's friend, but want to block the majority of things they share
11:27<supermop>which are all stupid videos posted by some radio station
11:30<Eddi|zuHause>that's the problem when you're battling an algorithm that doesn't _really_ understand what you want.
11:30<Eddi|zuHause>it's getting sooo annoying
11:31<@Alberth>don't go there any more :)
11:31<Eddi|zuHause>also, youtube's "i'm not interested in this video" button is buried at least 2 steps too far
11:33<Eddi|zuHause>sometimes i wish i could just put a usability add-on which adds humanist conveniency features
11:35<Eddi|zuHause>it's often just tiny (from the user's perspective) improvements to the interface
11:38<andythenorth>write your own interface? o_O
11:38<andythenorth>there’s an API no?
11:38<supermop>write a competing video sharing site
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13:31<Eddi|zuHause>todays earworm sponsored by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H18XBTDNF78
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13:33<Wolf01>thank you eddi
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27615 trunk/src/lang/spanish.txt (2016-07-12 19:45:35 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>spanish: 7 changes by SilverSurferZzZ
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13:47<@Alberth>quak
13:48<Wolf01>quak
13:48<frosch123>hola
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14:50<Alkel_U3>Hello, I seem to be back.
14:50<Wolf01>o/
14:51<Alkel_U3>this would be some planeset https://imgur.com/gallery/DmEIm
14:53<Wolf01>they totally fit this game
14:55<Eddi|zuHause>"people whp play too much KSP" :p
14:56<Eddi|zuHause>looks like other people in the comments had that same thought
14:57<Alkel_U3>does KSP play like "If it doesn't reach orbit, strap more engines to it"?
14:59<Alkel_U3>I've been playing Besiege today, so strapping more things to things is very familiar to me :-)
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15:07<Eddi|zuHause>well, "more engines" usually doesn't cover it :p
15:07<Eddi|zuHause>and reaching orbit isn't actually that hard :p
15:08<Alkel_U3>i've only played an old demo and didn't fulfill even that, so I still don't know too much about it
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15:09<Alkel_U3>but it was fun, i'll play it when I get my hands on a full version
15:20<andythenorth>anyone want to propose cargo <-> graphics mappings for road hog?
15:20<andythenorth>I cba to think about it
15:20<andythenorth>cargo sizes are 3/8 or 4/8
15:20<andythenorth>so no big tractors :P
15:21<andythenorth>also I have painted myself into a corner...
15:21<andythenorth>single-unit cargos can’t have a meaningful loading state :P
15:21<andythenorth>e.g. big crate, paper coil etc
15:24<frosch123>what do you mean?
15:24<frosch123>you show a graphic, and we guess what cargo it shows?
15:25<frosch123>[21:21] <andythenorth> single-unit cargos can’t have a meaningful loading state :P <- what happened to shifting the threshold along the vehicle?
15:25<frosch123>so that vehicles do not load exactly in sync
15:25<andythenorth>faff :P
15:26<andythenorth>could be done
15:26<andythenorth>I thought of some edge case, can’t remember what
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15:29<andythenorth>meanwhile, I am lacking inspiration for cargo sprites
15:29<andythenorth>crates and tarps for everything?
15:30<frosch123>barrels :)
15:31<andythenorth>barrels are easy
15:31<andythenorth>same sprite for all angles :P
15:44<Eddi|zuHause>i expect at least 5 types of animals
15:46<andythenorth>the open trucks do refit livestock
15:46<andythenorth>but there’s no subtype refit control
15:46<frosch123>some things like fruit you can also transport in open boxes
15:47<frosch123>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Apfelkiste.jpg/800px-Apfelkiste.jpg
15:49<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/entry/sprites/graphics/fruit_vegetable_cargo.png
15:49<frosch123>http://thumbs3.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/201554365850_/6-alte-rustikale-Obstkisten-Apfelkisten-Holzkisten-Weinkisten-Regal.jpg <- or for 1st gen
15:49<andythenorth>the CHIPS cargos, unfortunately, are mostly drawn at 4px wide
15:49<andythenorth>vehicles are 6 :P
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16:10<Samu>2033
16:14<supermop>unboxed durians
16:15<supermop>https://yogiiiii.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/nik_9943.jpg
16:15<supermop>https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7975569091_fdf662d5b3_b.jpg
16:16<supermop>shirtless man to slow payment decay rate
16:16<supermop>by ensuring durians dont fall off
16:16<frosch123>"keep distance" :p
16:16<andythenorth>supermop: those are good :)
16:17*andythenorth considers cassava in FIRS
16:17<supermop>http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/601960/601960,1287118616,2/stock-photo-a-lots-of-durian-on-the-truck-63024637.jpg
16:17<frosch123>andythenorth: you already added it
16:17<frosch123>or did you remove it again?
16:17<andythenorth>I know
16:17<andythenorth>I am considering the cargo sprites
16:17<supermop>every 50 tiles though man eats one of the durians
16:17<andythenorth>:)
16:17<andythenorth>also beans :P
16:19<supermop>too many durians:
16:19<supermop>http://www.richardbarrow.com/2013/03/this-is-what-happens-when-you-overload-your-truck/
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16:23<supermop>i wonder if richard barrow up there knows zephyris?
16:27<supermop>pun too obscure?
16:28<andythenorth>:P
16:28<andythenorth>took me a while
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17:07<TrueBrain>according to the factorio wiki, we are called Open Traffic Tycoon Deluxe :D Traffic! :D
17:15<Eddi|zuHause>sure.
17:15<TrueBrain>I see you are as shocked as I was :D
17:25<supermop>that is at least legally distinct
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17:40<Eddi|zuHause>if anyone ever files a trademark claim, it'll be over the "tycoon" bit...
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18:02<Eddi|zuHause>(NSFW-ish) https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/13681096_1021948311235919_7496121036557728414_n.jpg?oh=e55a12bc8417d001930e17bda22ac99a&oe=57E9014F
18:03<Eddi|zuHause>(not sure in which world a facebook link is ever SWF, but whatever)
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18:47<Wolf01>'night
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20:59<Eddi|zuHause>ah the "experts" strike again. "it doesn't work on Mac OS because the original game was only for DOS and Windows"
21:00<Sylf>so tempted to feed this troll >_<
21:01<Sylf>meh. Too lazy to do that.
21:02<Eddi|zuHause>"The Republican Party declared that coal is now a 'clean' energy." great. the world is saved.
21:03<Sylf>Huzzah! Let there be more steam locos!
21:05<Sylf>oh. it was a unanimous agreement. even more scary.
21:05<Eddi|zuHause>#makecoalgreatagain
21:06<Eddi|zuHause>(i don't think hashtags work that way on IRC :p)
21:06<Sylf>hey, if you wanna join the channel to talk about it, GREAT.
21:07<Eddi|zuHause>not particularly :p
21:07<Eddi|zuHause>still unsure whether i should go for the meissner porzellan achievement
21:08<Eddi|zuHause>i'm almost definitely going for the 3 georgia achievement, though.
21:11<Eddi|zuHause>fun sidenote: ever since i became defender of the faith, all countries of my faith were my vassals of mine. so i have all the benefits with none of the responsibilities
21:11<Eddi|zuHause>-my
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