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04:32<Wolf01>moin
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05:11<V453000>yo
05:11<V453000>holy shit people asking me for teasers? What universe did I wak up in
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05:23<MonkeyDrone>what kind of teasers? =O
05:23<MonkeyDrone>i know a few categories i would be interested in :P
05:26<V453000>dem brix
05:29<MonkeyDrone>dem homies want dat honey is all
05:29<MonkeyDrone>:P
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05:42<Wolf01>Let's see if I'll get angry even today because stupid construction bots take the detour to biters nests for no reason instead of going in straight line
05:42<MonkeyDrone>well the interview went brilliantly well, dude was cool as ice. It was a placement interview for which government department I would like to go for. Expecting an answer in 2 weeks , wooooo :D
05:43<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01, exterminate biter nest, build bigger walls
05:43<Wolf01>I'm waiting for cluster grenades to pile up again... I emptied the chest
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05:53<V453000>laseer turret creeping is still most resource efficient if you are in trouble
05:55<Wolf01>flamethrowers works really well, at least they don't use power
06:06<V453000>yeah not like power isnt free with solar :P
06:07<Wolf01>No time for that, I need the circuits for other things
06:08<Wolf01>Yay, almost finished the 1500 tiles wall
06:09<Wolf01>9 nests in the way
06:09<V453000>must build giganto mf circuit factory
06:09<V453000>and put productivity modules in them asap :P
06:10<Wolf01>I already have 12 factorioes for circuits (12 for every tier) with all slots of speed module 2
06:10<V453000>12 is nothing
06:10<Wolf01>*factorioes, lol
06:11<Wolf01>I know, but I need to expand first, the 60 smelters for iron and copper can't keep up
06:11<V453000>:)
06:12<Wolf01>and I just cleaned an area rich of copper and iron
06:12<Wolf01>and another nice oil field
06:15<Wolf01>well, no more risky detours, I wiped out the nest
06:19<Wolf01>The worse part is to dismantle the inner walls once you set up the new one
06:20<Wolf01>Stuff piles up in every storage chest around the map
06:20<V453000>it's not like you have to :)
06:20<V453000>and robots who build the new walls will first take from storage so they re-use the old ones
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06:23<Wolf01>Just one little request, since now is possible to put modules automatically in factories, would it be possible to put ammo in turrets too?
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06:24<V453000>you mean by robots?
06:24<Wolf01>yes
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06:35<Wolf01>Nice, my topic was completely ignored
06:35<Wolf01>(the one about rail ghosts)
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06:36<Wolf01>Maybe people can't find anything other than insults to say :P
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06:49<Samu>hi
06:49<Samu>just started original/npf/yapf trans ships
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09:21<supermop>yo
09:22<V453000>yo
09:25<V453000>how u doin?
09:27<supermop>spent last 1.5wk in hawaii getting married
09:27<V453000>yay congratulations
09:41<supermop>seriously considered wearing a lei to work to day to rub it in with all my coworkers
09:44<V453000>lei?
09:45<V453000>ah XD
09:45<V453000>didn't know that word
09:46<supermop>hah yes i don't imagine it is used that often there
09:50<V453000>yeah nope
09:53<Flygon>Oh, shit
09:53<Flygon>Congratulations!
10:04<supermop>9 hour red eye flight and straight to the office from the airport though
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11:01<supermop>this was a mistake
11:01<supermop>i feel like i am already about to fall asleep at work and ive only been here 2 hours
11:05<V453000>does anybody at the office expect you to not be asleep after wedding? :D
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11:09<MonkeyDronez>yeah , all that energy drain, hehe
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11:23<supermop>can never sleep on planes so i've been awake for 24 hours now and still have 6.6 hours of work to crawl through
11:24<supermop>so just wasting time on slack and telling each coworker individually about the whole trip
11:33<supermop>on slack i can send lots of sleeping emojis
11:45<Eddi|zuHause>you should account for a rest day after a stressful vacation...
11:53<supermop>vacation wasn't that stressful, at least not the last few days after all of the last minute arrangements were completed
11:53<Eddi|zuHause>a flight across timezones is always stressful...
11:53<supermop>but there was lots and lots of 'diplomacy' time - meeting and spending time with various in laws and distant relatives
11:54<supermop>and making sure all the people in Hawaii for the first time had a good directions to see and enjoy a comprehensive amount of the island
11:55<supermop>also there was a hurricane on the day of the wedding
11:55<supermop>though it became downgraded to tropical stom
11:55<supermop>storm
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11:58<supermop>yo andy
11:58<andythenorth>lo
11:58<supermop>trams?
11:59<andythenorth>tramz
11:59<andythenorth>weddingz?
11:59<Eddi|zuHause>currently deciding whether i should uninstall fglrx and switch to radeon driver
12:00<Alkel_U3>what kernel?
12:00<Eddi|zuHause>4.1.27
12:00<Alkel_U3>not that I could give you educated avice, I'm just curious
12:01<Alkel_U3>although 4.1.x sounds a bit old to perform well with the new stuff, imho
12:03<supermop>wedding is done
12:03<Eddi|zuHause>i don't know how old that kernel really is, i don't follow kernel development
12:03<supermop>had to learn a shinto ritual
12:03<Eddi|zuHause>the distribution is about half a year old i think
12:03<Alkel_U3>I still have nvidia so this is a bit beyond me but I look forward to the possible future where I can actually choose when I get a new card
12:03<supermop>but they seemed to give us the easy version
12:04<Eddi|zuHause>my card is also a few years old now
12:04<Alkel_U3>ubuntu 16.04 has 4.4 and they had to backport stuff to make the new driver work iirc
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12:06<andythenorth>supermop: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7929/fruit_tram.png
12:06<supermop>andythenorth: yessssss
12:06<supermop>hawaii firs economy
12:06<andythenorth>tried some with vents
12:06<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7930/fruit_trams_2.png
12:07<andythenorth>not convinced yet
12:07<Alkel_U3>supermop: also congrats for the loss of freedom :-)
12:07<supermop>various fruit subtypes - passionfruit, mango, bananas, pineapples,
12:08<MonkeyDronez>hehe Alkel_U3 , indeed, no more free will xD
12:08<supermop>then taro, okinawan sweet potato, sugarcane,
12:08<supermop>andythenorth: kind of like the opening at top
12:09<supermop>not much loss of freedom as was already living together for a few years, but i did get some amulets
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12:20<supermop>andythenorth: how are your non wired tracks coming?
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12:32<andythenorth>supermop: not currently
12:32<andythenorth>tramz
12:33<@Rubidium>Eddi|zuHause: they're at 4.7 now and a cycle is usually 9 or 10 weeks, so 4.1 is about a year old
12:34<@Rubidium>having said that... 4.1.27 has been released about a month ago
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12:34<Wolf01>Shit, I lost the Pokémon Gold save... the battery died
12:35<Eddi|zuHause>i did update recently, yes.
12:35<@Rubidium>and two weeks ago 4.1.28 was released, but I reckon you can guess those are only bug fixes
12:37<Eddi|zuHause>it seems .28 is not available for my distribution
12:37<Eddi|zuHause>but there's an updated .27
12:37<andythenorth>gah
12:37<andythenorth>someone should make some decent ships
12:37<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think it matters much
12:38<Eddi|zuHause>if i were in an experimenting mood, i could try some special kernel repo
12:39<supermop>rafts
12:42<Alkel_U3>kernel experimentation is pretty safe as you usually keep old kernels. Not working as it should or booting at all? Just boot the older one and revert changes.
12:43<Eddi|zuHause>"kernel experimentation is pretty safe"... i don't think i ever heard that sentence before :p
12:46<supermop>so i dropped my phone in the ocean in hawaii
12:46<supermop>now everything works except the usb hole
12:46<supermop>so i have to charge it with a qi charger
12:47<supermop>which is frustratingly slow
12:47<supermop>not sure if i should buy a faster inductive charger or just get a new phone
12:47<MonkeyDronez>new phone
12:48<MonkeyDronez>who knows what else damage that will pop up over time from water dmg
12:48<MonkeyDronez>just a matter of time now
12:48<MonkeyDronez>it's life has already been reduced drastically b
12:49<Eddi|zuHause>you should try to clean the salt off the usb connectors...
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12:53<supermop>the longer i can keep the phone alive, the better the phones available for sale will be when it dies
12:53<supermop>as long as i kee all the photos etc stored on the sd card
12:53<supermop>keep
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12:55<andythenorth>FIRS quarry http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_epdtuZXgtQ/UX5j1G74prI/AAAAAAAABF0/MWZ1OlUzyu4/s1600/Hans+J%C3%B8rgensen+&+S%C3%B8n+1956+-+H07633_025%5B1%5D.jpg
12:56<andythenorth>post-hoc RL inspiration
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12:59<supermop>less water?
13:09<andythenorth>FIRS should enforce max distance between primary / secondary
13:09<andythenorth>I can’t be bothered building routes > 32 tiles or so
13:10<andythenorth>bbl
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14:44<Wolf01><andythenorth> I can’t be bothered building routes > 32 tiles or so <- I rarely built a cargo tram service between 2 industries > 32 tiles far away
14:46<frosch123>if industries are 16x16 and have a distance < 32, then there is hardly space for other stuff :p
14:46<andythenorth>I rarely enjoy building any service that long :P
14:46<andythenorth>except planes
14:50<supermop>i like 64 for trains
14:53<andythenorth>gah, fix the station window :(
14:53*andythenorth goes nuts
14:53<andythenorth>fills the screen when I want to build behind it
14:54<supermop>hard when building in a small window while playing in one corner of a larger work monitor
14:55<frosch123>9 inch screen with 4x zoom?
14:55<andythenorth>13” with 2x
14:57<Alaskoud>Just wondering, what else does "Full animation" control besides water? Disabling it really helps on my toaster hehe
14:58<frosch123>level crossing lights and lighttowers :)
14:58<frosch123>full animation does not work well on modern hardware
14:58<frosch123>it's a 90's thing
14:59<Alaskoud>Lel. So only those 3 things? I'm okay turning it off then
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>also runways
14:59<Alaskoud>4*
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>and steel works fire
14:59<frosch123>essentially everything that blinks annoyingly :)
14:59<Eddi|zuHause>and stuff
15:00<Alaskoud>K guys thanks
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15:56<Eddi|zuHause>i think i remember why i switched to fglrx last time... with the radeon driver the GPU fan is really loud
15:57<andythenorth>I think my laptop has a fan somewhere
15:57<andythenorth>sometimes it turns it on
16:09<Hiddenfunstuff>Usually when its too hot
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16:14<drac_boy>hi
16:15<drac_boy>silly question but just curious if you only can have one type of exhaust or can you have both diesel smoke and electric spark on the one same train?
16:16<andythenorth>not without tricks
16:18<drac_boy>heh thanks, at least both its small and that its a game so noone'll really have to complain :)
16:22<drac_boy>anyway going sort out other things .. but might be back ;)
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16:33<Wolf01>mmmh 88% humidity, I'm writing from a swimming pool
16:35<Alaskoud>Shouldn't it be 100%?
16:38<Wolf01>Don't fall in the trap, you can have even 300% humidity in the air without having water
16:39<Wolf01>Like when you shower with hot water
16:39<andythenorth>so did anyone find supplies tram yet? o_O
16:39*andythenorth did not
16:45<supermop>tram for transformers?
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16:45<andythenorth>there’s a photo of one in budapest
16:45<andythenorth>but I can’t find it
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17:12<andythenorth>more than 50 theatres in this town
17:12<andythenorth>must be a lot of shows to see
17:15<supermop>people are easily bored before 1930
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