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---Logopened Wed Aug 03 00:00:31 2016
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02:12<MonkeyDronez>morning o/
02:12*MonkeyDronez bricks
02:12*MonkeyDronez sighs*
02:13*MonkeyDronez received a laptop from a friend. Friend's sister had W7 on it, which went like this W7->W8->W8.1->W10. Never had a fresh install since she has had the laptop. And now it's going full mental on her.
02:14<MonkeyDronez>Looking at it and spending 5 mins on it , i can tell it needs a fresh install. Sigh* need robots to do this shit
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02:15<Flygon>MonkeyDronez: Myself, I only do a new Windows when I get a new HDD into the computer
02:15<MonkeyDronez>omg, she does 3D Studio max stuff on the laptop....
02:16<Flygon>Thankfully, unlike the rest of the Hardware industry, HDD/SSDs are still a strongly advancing technology
02:16<Flygon>Or - It's possible to justify a new one every 5-6 yearss
02:16<Flygon>Conveniently in line with new OS's
02:16<MonkeyDronez>Flygon, Aye, windows doesn't need a fresh install if you can take care of it. That family is not the brightest bunch when it comes to tech and software. There's so much junkware / malware installed here. It's not even entertaining x.x
02:16<Flygon>Yeah, but upgrading Windows is always asking for disaster
02:16<MonkeyDronez>I'm so done with HDDs, SSD is the future
02:16<Flygon>I've kept old installs stable, buddy :D
02:17<MonkeyDronez>haha, well i'm pretty sure they saw a button 'UPRGADE' and they clicked it :P
02:17<MonkeyDronez>again, i iterate, not the brightest bunch :P
02:18<MonkeyDronez>although the laptop has the same processor as mine, installing speccy on it to see what normal stable temp it runs on. since mine is above 65 on doing nothing and basic cpu usage brings it above 70 instantly
02:18<MonkeyDronez>and she uses ask.com as her official search engine in firefox =O
02:18<Flygon>...
02:18<Flygon>ASK STILL EXISTS?
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02:19<MonkeyDronez>apparently so, i didn't know it till a few minutes ago
02:19<Flygon>Sheeeeeet
02:19<Flygon>I loved that in Primary School
02:19<Flygon>Like, late 90s
02:20<Flygon>You'd ask Jeeves anything
02:20<Flygon>And you'd get either valid answers, or snark back
02:20<Flygon>It was cool at the time
02:20<MonkeyDronez>heh, i hardly used it, maybe for a few weeks in between
02:20<Flygon>I remember a lot of students said to him "Fuck you", and he didn't take it well :U
02:20<MonkeyDronez>i can't recall what i used for searching before google, been a long time
02:20<MonkeyDronez>lol
02:21<MonkeyDronez>adventorous years
02:21<MonkeyDronez>now people do barrel rolls and stuff with google's engine
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02:22<MonkeyDronez>ah shit, that cpu is also running around 65-70 on idle, looks like just bad design x.x
02:22<MonkeyDronez>i got screwed over after all, wasn't my fault :D
02:23<MonkeyDronez>i got an HP laptop and the other one is ACer.
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02:34*MonkeyDronez is going to attempt to setup a mail server on his vps #toomanyfailedtriesinlife
02:34<MonkeyDronez>unless someone has a better option / easier way to get this done
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02:43<MonkeyDronez>yup, fucked it up again. sigh*
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02:54<Alkel_U3>mailserver... I also intend to do it in not so distant future, but I heard there are many pitfalls that could lead to vulnerable configurations so I'm not exactly rushing it
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02:57<MonkeyDronez>i should not have done it with my live vps....i blindly followed some instructions without reading and it uninstalled some critical packages.....foooook me
02:57<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3, apparently it's best if only pros do it. It indeed has a lot of pitfalls. It's worst than DF
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04:31<V453000> /me was so desperate that I asked for help on the forums
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04:31<V453000>of all places
04:31<Zuu>Of all places, I say hello here :-)
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04:40<Wolf01>o/
04:41<Zuu>I added a path finder to my tower game. Now separate buildings needs separate stairs: http://junctioneer.net/monster-tower/paths.png
04:41<V453000>hi. :)
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04:42<Zuu>One step towards getting bottlenecks in the elevators :-)
04:42<Supercheese>SimTower vibes
04:42<Wolf01>:)
04:42<Supercheese>makes me want to dig a basement and put some restaurants in it
04:42<Supercheese>dunno why that was a thing in SimTower
04:44<Zuu>Perhaps because it was "free" space near ground floor that you couldn't use for offices.
04:44<Supercheese>or if you dug deep enough, you could find buried treasure
04:45<Supercheese>and Santa Claus would fly by every Christmas
04:49<@Alberth>hi hi, all
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04:51<V453000>if I commited something in TortoiseHg, and want to make it completely forget about those files, how would I do that?
04:51<V453000>I did remove them and commit that, but that obviously doesn't work
04:51<V453000>treid to backout but that just creates a commit too
04:52<V453000>I want to completely remove the commits I guess
04:52<V453000>aka, one of the commits has .zipped 3D scenes
04:52<Wolf01>It's version control, you can only tamper with history and break things
04:52<V453000>and devzone apparently prohibits uploading .zips for WTF reasons
04:52<V453000>so if I push, it fails because there has been a zip in the history of shit
04:52<Supercheese>you could be cheeky
04:53<Supercheese>make a .zip
04:53<Supercheese>change the extension to something else
04:53<Supercheese>like .png
04:53<Supercheese>upload that
04:53<@Alberth>that sounds more like a devzone problem than a "I don't want these files in my repo" problem
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04:53<V453000>well yeah Alberth
04:53<Supercheese>so what if it's not a valid .png
04:53<V453000>but I would kind of like to fix it asap
04:53<V453000>I do want the files eventually
04:53<V453000>but hm
04:53<Supercheese>but that won't help with uncommitting things
04:54<@Alberth>talk to a sysadmin at #openttdcoop.devzone
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04:54<V453000>did, isn't asap but yeah I will just wait
04:54<V453000>nobody will probably try to pull anyway
04:54<V453000>well I could completely remove my repository and clone a new one
04:54<V453000>but not going to do that
04:54<@Alberth>you can remove stuff from a repo, but that won't fix your problem, you'll want to add it in another form anyway
04:55<@Alberth>so at best it's postponing the problem
04:55<V453000>yes but if I make a backup of the files on my disk, create a new repo which I grab from devzone which doesn't have the zips yet ofc, nor does it know about the commits
04:55<V453000>but yeah I will be patient
04:57<V453000>I just asked people for help on the forums and said "you can grab the repo for full source"
04:57<V453000>except nope XD
04:58<V453000>but in general this system is pretty bullshit
04:59<V453000>if you commit something that breaks it, going back is super hard
04:59<@Alberth>https://www.mercurial-scm.org/wiki/FAQ/CommonProblems look for "launch codes"
05:00<V453000>yeah command line shit
05:00<@Alberth>hg itself isn't broken, there is just an upload limitation in place at devzone
05:00<V453000>but yeah lol, cloning a revision from my own repo to a new repo
05:00<V453000>nice stuff
05:00<V453000>I know
05:01<@Alberth>I clone my own local repos all the time, every time I start something new
05:01<@Alberth>I have around 25 clones of the openttd source code
05:02<V453000>XD
05:03<V453000>I guess it makes sense but I don't want BRIX, BRIX-clean, BRIX-clean-clean, BRIX-clean-now-for-real, BRIX-fucked-up-again, ...
05:06<Supercheese>BRIX-shat ? ;)
05:07<@Alberth>your projects are different, as you make everything from the ground up, while in openttd source code you make small changes only
05:08<@Alberth>you'd have BRIX-Rvs, BRIX-trains, BRIX-terrain like clones in my use
05:09<V453000>well yea
05:09<V453000>that I understand
05:09<V453000>shit on it, I will just do vehicles and trees meanwhile
05:09<V453000>and hope it gets fixed
05:09<V453000>same as hoping someone hints me what to do with the foundations because I feel like I tried all possible options
05:10<V453000>I might need to space the sprites out a bit more to actually be able to use the alpha around them, but that feels like a big bullshit since it would make the sprites not centered
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05:11<@Alberth>well, does the first line apply to you? "If you've just committed it, and you haven't done any other commits or pulls since"
05:11<@Alberth>then hg rollback will do the trick
05:11<@Alberth>be sure to make a copy of the data in the commit you remove first, to be on the safe side
05:12<V453000>I probably did more commits since I tried to remove the files and backout
05:12<V453000>yeah
05:12<V453000>I made a backup already but meh I will just wait, that is wisest
05:14<V453000>I still have plenty of tasks to do so it's not like it actually slows me down
05:14<V453000>it's just annoying
05:14<@Alberth>indeed, trying to fix things without exactly what needs to be done escalates quickly into chaos :(
05:14<V453000>well, next time :D
05:15<V453000>can I hg rollback multiple times? I guess not eh
05:15<@Alberth>no, just once
05:15<V453000>gay
05:15<@Alberth>you can "strip" commits though, but clone is simpler and safer in that case
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05:20<Wolf01>https://youtu.be/2CQqud3lIQI lego-factorio!
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05:42<@Alberth>it's much less quick :)
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06:00<Wolf01>http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/2/12360620/china-TEB-elevated-straddling-bus-unveiled O_O they actually built it
06:01<Wolf01>OTTD version soon? Maybe with NotRoadTypes...
06:01<Wolf01>Graphical glitches everywhere
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06:17<@Alberth>:o nice bus :)
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07:04<MonkeyDronez>soooo
07:04<MonkeyDronez>hmmmmm
07:05<MonkeyDronez>i installed Ubuntu, dual boot on the laptop. Installed OTTD on it and went on reddit's server
07:05<MonkeyDronez>the lag spikes i see on windows 10. Don't see it there on linux...
07:05<MonkeyDronez>switched a few times between both and ottd is running smooth as butter on reddit server...
07:06<MonkeyDronez>dammit windows, why are you making this hard for me to justify your ass
07:13<@Alberth>Much of the Internet runs at Unix, so yeah, the network stack is really well engineered at Unix systems :)
07:15<Samu>2006, 2050
07:16<Samu>last year for nocab npf ships
07:16<MonkeyDronez>yargh, brb
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07:21<monkeydronez>on linux now, damn thing is so smoooth
07:21<monkeydronez>what sorcery is this!
07:22<Alkel_U3>did you consider setting up a bouncer? :-)
07:22<monkeydronez>i know that word bouncer, it's some sort of bot ain't it
07:23<monkeydronez>so enlighten me about this bouncer :P
07:23<Alkel_U3>no, that's something like an irc proxy that's connected all the time as one nick and acts like an irc server for multiple clients
07:24<monkeydronez>ooo i'm reading up on it, looks sweeeet
07:24<monkeydronez>get all the logs in
07:24<Alkel_U3>you said you have a vps, so I thought I'd mention it
07:24<monkeydronez>missed chat while disconnected
07:24<monkeydronez>and i can use it to talk with the same nick from any computer if i'm connecting to my bouncer , correct?
07:25<Alkel_U3>I used to run znc, but there were some shortcommings. Now I use weechat in screen and use its relay protocol
07:25<Alkel_U3>correct
07:25<monkeydronez>what was wrong with znc?
07:27<Alkel_U3>the basic concept of a bouncer. It uses the irc protocol so it can't synchronize stuff like away nicks highlighting (every client has to ask themselves), read-up-to marker, private messages are not always synced...
07:27<monkeydronez>Alkel_U3, just a quick logic flow. VPS runs the bouncer (ZNC?) or (WeeChat?)
07:27<Alkel_U3>one of those
07:28<Alkel_U3>but you can run znc on server and use weechat as a client
07:28<monkeydronez>can't use any irc client?
07:28<Alkel_U3>yes
07:29<Alkel_U3>but weechat has its own relay protocol and clients that use it (android, web, another weechat instance...) and it does a better job at keeping everything synced
07:30<Alkel_U3>another recommendation would be quassel, which is designet as a server-client irc client from the ground
07:30<monkeydronez>i just saw that name in the ubuntu store
07:31<monkeydronez>quassel can do bouncer stuff then?
07:31<monkeydronez>ooo i'm sold on quassel
07:31<monkeydronez>Quassel IRC is a modern, cross-platform, distributed IRC client, meaning that one (or multiple) client(s) can attach to and detach from a central core -- much like the popular combination of screen and a text-based IRC client such as WeeChat, but graphical.
07:32<Alkel_U3>it's not an irc bouncer. You need to use its own clients to connect to your quassel server but it has the functionality of a bouncer and more
07:32<Alkel_U3>same with weechat
07:33<monkeydronez>time to have some fun :D
07:33<Alkel_U3>personally I'd recommend weechat but see what works best for you :-)
07:35<monkeydronez>hehe, damn i'm nerding hard right now
07:40<monkeydronez>4mb to download, 5 mins to install x.x
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07:44<MonkeyDroneRekt>test
07:44<monkeydronez>test back at you
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07:44<monkeydronez>why u do dis irc
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07:45<MonkeyDroneRekt>test
07:45<@Alberth>blyp
07:45<monkeydronez>ok, lets disconnect
07:45<monkeydronez>MonkeyDroneRekt, yo
07:45<monkeydronez>ok so that thing is still connected, sweeeet
07:46<monkeydronez>spam all the messages
07:46<MonkeyDroneRekt>oh this is good
07:47<MonkeyDroneRekt>this is really really good, ok ok, time to get my tab out and test this baby
07:48<monkeydronez>thanks for mentioning bouncer :D this is sweeeeeeeeeet
07:48<monkeydronez>never again i shall lose any more messages
07:48<monkeydronez>i'll test weechat out now
07:48<monkeydronez>quassel was way too easy to setup
07:49<@Alberth>the bad news is that you now have to read all those ramblings you otherwise never see :)
07:50<Alkel_U3>weechat might be a bit harder to configure properly, I think
07:51<monkeydronez>Alberth, it's okay, brain cells are dead anyway :P
07:51<monkeydronez>hmm i should have paid more attention to the username i setup in quassel :D
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07:51<MonkeyDroneRekt>yarr
07:51<andythenorth>V453000: must can haz good maglev tracks in 8bpp
07:52<andythenorth>Iron Horse needs maglev
07:52<andythenorth>maglev track is ugly
07:52<andythenorth>is problem
07:54<@Alberth>o/
07:55<@Alberth>maybe the problem is that maglev looks so much like maglev?
07:55<Samu>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-titan-x-12gb,4700.html - RIP AMD
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07:55<@Alberth>do you really want another rail type?
07:57<Samu>nvidia selling handicapped hardware for a higher price
07:57<Samu>it's official, amd can't compete
07:57<andythenorth>I want not-ugly maglev track
08:00<monkeydronez>so i accidentally did this cause i had a slight lag in terminal.....
08:00<monkeydronez>root@vps284539:/home/monkey# rm *
08:00<@Alberth>\o/
08:00*monkeydronez facepalms
08:01<@Alberth>well, it happens to all at some point :)
08:01<monkeydronez>freakin hell, dammit. blargh
08:01<@Alberth>andythenorth: any particular reason it can't run on eg normal tracks?
08:02<andythenorth>hmm
08:02<monkeydronez>ah well, anyhoo, quassel test worked well. I'll do a weechat thingy and setup a fresh vps :D
08:02<andythenorth>Alberth: dunno
08:02<andythenorth>kind of like making players build another type?
08:02<andythenorth>but that never goes well
08:03<@Alberth>new track type forces that indeed
08:03<@Alberth>unless you can run on several track types, and the new one is better or so
08:03<@Alberth>but you'd still see that most people will immediately upgrade everything
08:04<@Alberth>hmm, if you make maglev for pax only, that might avoid complete upgrade :p
08:04<andythenorth>yes
08:04<andythenorth>it would be pax + _maybe_ express freight
08:05<andythenorth>I am not convinced, so haven’t added it
08:05<@Alberth>in a sense, even if you stay on the same track type, different speeds don't go well together, so people will make dedicated tracks anyway
08:05<andythenorth>yes
08:05<@Alberth>and nobody complains about it :p
08:05<andythenorth>a *good* new track type is eye candy
08:05<andythenorth>but original baseset maglev is eye not-candy
08:06<@Alberth>original baseset has no engines at other track types than the newest
08:06<@Alberth>so there is one option only
08:07<monkeydronez>hmm yeah ZNC is not happening, too much work for something I already have an easy solution :P
08:08<Alkel_U3>if you don't mind using the quassel clients, znc would be a downgrade
08:10<monkeydronez>what else can i do with my VPS :D
08:10<monkeydronez>i've no issue with quassel, it has a dark theme. All i care about :P
08:11<monkeydronez>it looks a lot like hexchat, something i normally use. Life is good
08:11<Alkel_U3>that was my first client, too
08:12<monkeydronez>hmmmm, my cpu is running 51C on linux....on windows it's sitting at 65 stable....
08:13<@Alberth>andy, I kind of like the dual track idea, you can keep the existing stations, and still get tracks with high speed, for example
08:13<@Alberth>windows tends to do a lot of background processing, afaik
08:13<Wolf01>Oh, andy arrived o/
08:14<Wolf01>andythenorth:
08:14<Wolf01>[12:00:11] <Wolf01> http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/2/12360620/china-TEB-elevated-straddling-bus-unveiled O_O they actually built it
08:14<Wolf01>[12:01:11] <Wolf01> OTTD version soon? Maybe with NotRoadTypes...
08:16<andythenorth>Wolf01: NotRoadTypes :D
08:16<andythenorth>:P
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09:32<monkeydronez>x.x
09:32<monkeydronez>was running ottd, temp only reach 58C....would be hitting 80s in windows x.x
09:34<Flygon>...
09:34<Flygon>Tried thermal paste?
09:36<monkeydronez>Flygon, i have, this cpu model is just crappy
09:36<monkeydronez>i got my friend's laptop, saw it has same cpu , it has heating issues in windows as well....
09:36<monkeydronez>although mine is a lot worst from all the insane heat damage from all the gaming over the past few years
09:41<Flygon>Dang
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09:53<Samu>1 month until 2051
09:53<supermop>yo
09:53<Samu>hi
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10:17<Samu>finished!
10:18<Wolf01>Back to firefox 47, disabled automatic updates
10:19<Wolf01>what? it reinstalled 48
10:20<Wolf01>I'll switch to edge as soon as it comes the adblock support
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10:32<Alkel_U3>what's so bad about 48? I still have 47, care to enlighten me while I still have time? :-)
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10:32<MonkeyDroneeee>what's wrong with firefox 48?
10:33<MonkeyDroneeee>well i am on 47, was 48 some experimental / beta release?
10:34<Wolf01>Half of the RSS feed subscriptions don't work anymore
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10:34<MonkeyDroneeee>that's a shame
10:34<MonkeyDroneeee>i should start using RSS feeds, never got into it
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10:35<Wolf01>And since it's the thing I use mostly it really baffle me
10:36<Alkel_U3>I did once, it soon got out of hand and I could no longer process all the information pushed to me o I stopped using it
10:36<Alkel_U3>ehm, information... mainly webcomics :-)
10:36<Wolf01>Me too
10:36<monkeyyyy>webcomics are awesome, i used to read plenty till i lost track of most
10:36<monkeyyyy>cause the time between updates were kiling me
10:37<monkeyyyy>now i read em on my tab with that comic app
10:37<Alkel_U3>I used to use the old opera for feeds, then swithed to google reader, then the old reader, then I quit
10:37<Wolf01>I don't like to have 1243223523 different apps on desktop
10:37<Eddi|zuHause>i use rss mostly for podcasts and other downloadable stuff, and for that i use flexget
10:38<Wolf01>Bah.. now whatsapp web doesn't work anymore
10:39<monkeyyyy>working fine for me, i think your system is going loco Wolf01
10:39<Wolf01>it's the fucking firefox
10:39<monkeyyyy>have you tried turning it off and on again?
10:39<Wolf01>it works with chrome
10:40<Wolf01>maybe it doesn't like the x64 version
10:40<Wolf01>back to 47 x86
10:40<debdog>Wolf01: you're using whatsapp on browser? how? do you have a link, please?
10:40<Wolf01>https://web.whatsapp.com
10:41<monkeyyyy>debdog: that's the only way to use whatsapp, through a browser.
10:41<debdog>hehe
10:41<Wolf01>But I like telegram more, whatsapp loses connection with the smartphone over 9000 times at day
10:41<debdog>thanks Wolf01
10:43<monkeyyyy>I liked to use telegram too until the government blocked it across teh whole country here
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10:44<Eddi|zuHause>you should maybe find a new government...
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10:46<monkeyyyy>was trying to find my files on my vps, just remembered i accidentally ran rm * in my home folder where the files were...
10:46<monkeyyyy>well i perfer my government over the US's
10:46<monkeyyyy>they can keep their presidential clowns :P
10:47<monkeyyyy>hehe did i tell you guys i've met hillary :P She better win, then i can say i've shaken hands with the president of the USA :P
10:47<debdog>/web.whatsapp.com/ says I have to scan a code to use it on my phone. nothing abou thow to use it with the browser
10:48<monkeyyyy>i had a teacher in school who would say some shit like he's met x and y famous people and we would blow him off. Now I realize i sound just like him xD
10:48<monkeyyyy>debdog, goto your phone whatsapp, open the main menu, you will see whatsappweb there
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10:48<debdog>ah
10:48<monkeyyyy>chose that, it will open a scanner, scan the barcode on your browser with your phone
10:48<monkeyyyy>it will give the web the access it needs
10:48<debdog>well, don't have a smartphone :(
10:49<monkeyyyy>sheeeeeeeeeeeeet
10:49<monkeyyyy>tough love debdog
10:49<monkeyyyy>steal somebody's phone for a while :P
10:49<Alkel_U3>so, bluestacks and webcam? :-)
10:50<monkeyyyy>did you just proposition him to do adult acts online for monies?
10:50<debdog>I don't have a mobile at all. but I could use the phone number of one at work
10:50<Alkel_U3>reminds me of https://xkcd.com/1237/
10:50<monkeyyyy>debdog: ah, don't like carrying personal mobile?
10:51<debdog>no, no use for it, really
10:51<Eddi|zuHause>i used to have no phone, but then my boss made me have one...
10:51<monkeyyyy>debdog: ah ok. well for whatsapp you definitely need a number
10:51<debdog>Eddi|zuHause: I hope he's paying for it
10:51<Eddi|zuHause>yeah
10:51<monkeyyyy>Eddi|zuHause: well if you are doing critical work stuff that needs immediate attention at times, you need to stop living in the stone age :P
10:52<monkeyyyy>humanity's instincts for resistance to change is astonishing
10:52<debdog>monkeyyyy: I have a mobile at work I could use that number. but it's an elderly S66 (IIRC), cannot install apps
10:54<Wolf01>Then you can only use telegram, it doesn't even need a phone
10:54<monkeyyyy>debdog: well if it ain't a smart phone, i doubt you will be able to get whatsapp webworking
10:55<debdog>ok
10:55<monkeyyyy>Wolf01: afaik, telegram will need activation of a number, does it not.
10:55<monkeyyyy>like Alkel_U3 was saying beofre debdog
10:56<debdog>does telegram interact with whatsapp? because the groups I could join are on whatssapp
10:56<Eddi|zuHause>debdog: the web tells me you can use android-emulators on your PC to scan the code
10:56<debdog>Eddi|zuHause: that's a neat idea. will check that out later
10:56<monkeyyyy>download the software Bluestacks, it runs phone applications on your desktop. Install Whatsapp on it and use your work number, it should SMS you a code if you are lucky that you can enter into whatsapp. That's how it used to work a long time ago since i last checked. Not sure if things have changed
10:56<Wolf01>debdog, telegram is telegram, whatsapp is whatsapp
10:57<monkeyyyy>debdog: telegram will not work with whatsapp
10:57<Eddi|zuHause>the article suggests this program http://www.heise.de/download/product/genymotion-92977
10:57<monkeyyyy>http://www.bluestacks.com/ debdog
10:57<monkeyyyy>try it all out debdog , something should eventually work. There are always ways :D
10:58<debdog>thanks a log guys! so many suggestions. will have a look at them. sadly, I have to go now :(
10:58<monkeyyyy>debdog: good luck getting it to work :)
10:58<Alkel_U3>I like Matrix as an alternative but it's not finished yet. It seems usable enough, though, unlike Tox.
10:58<debdog>I'll report. also have to talk to the boss before doing so. but sonce one group is work related, I think he'll approve
10:59*debdog likes IRC
10:59<monkeyyyy>Alkel_U3: I never had the need to use bluestacks or anything similiar to it. Last phone I had was a samsung Galaxy S2, used it for 3 years, worked great. Bought 2 batteries for it because the current running was dying. A week later my S2 fell on some rocks and rip....
10:59<monkeyyyy>debdog: good luck, irc is nice :D
11:00<monkeyyyy>so now i have a Huawei P7, got it when it came out almost 2 years ago i believe. Has a crack on the backside :P close call there. Was working out, arms were super tired and i tried picking my phone up to check the time and it just fell out of my hands.....
11:00<Wolf01>I like irc too, too bad the app I purchased on windows 8 doesn't work well wind windows 10 and they didn't make the universal app as they planned
11:01<Wolf01>s/wind/on
11:01<monkeyyyy>Wolf01: Ah the windows store isn't working out well for most app devs unfortunately.
11:01<Alkel_U3>yeah, irc is great and that's kinda the weird thing. Since I started using weechat with relays it became pretty much the only service where I can use more clients and get all messages reliably delivered to me :D
11:01<Alkel_U3>never met one really reliable before
11:03<monkeyyyy>until you met Quassel ;p
11:03<monkeyyyy>my vps is reinstalling right now because of all the frackups from earlier today :P
11:03<monkeyyyy>hopefully this time I can keep it in a healthy condition :D
11:04<Alkel_U3>I don't need to switch to quassel, it doesn't add anything for me over weechat. But there are some perks for some uscases
11:05<monkeyyyy>hehe, for me all i need is the basics :P
11:06<Ethereal_Whisper>I had Quassel for a while... talk about a memory hog
11:06<Ethereal_Whisper>I see no reason why an IRC client should be using 400MB of your RAM
11:06<monkeyyyy>errrr
11:06<Alkel_U3>worst thing is, quassel doesn't have a cli client :-)
11:06<Alkel_U3>it does that? Wow
11:06<monkeyyyy>i'll find out i guess
11:06<Ethereal_Whisper>Yeah, pretty ridiculous
11:07<Wolf01>https://www.facebook.com/IRCExplorer this one was the most usable and clean client I found, but it's dead now :(
11:07<Alkel_U3>ok, weechat is bellow 4 MiB including the 0.4 used for screen :-)
11:07<Ethereal_Whisper>Hexchat's at 6.2
11:08<monkeyyyy>Ethereal_Whisper: are you talking client or server side?
11:09<Ethereal_Whisper>Client
11:09<monkeyyyy>ah... ok. did it instantly use 400MB on launch or overtime
11:10<Alkel_U3>well, it's not like there's only one client to choose from
11:10<Ethereal_Whisper>Over time... usually would start around 250MB, climb up to 350-400 after a few hours and go up and down for days, then crash
11:10<monkeyyyy>quassel-core will only work with quassel-client, correct?
11:10<Ethereal_Whisper>To my knowledge, yes
11:11<monkeyyyy>alright, i'm about to install quassel-core on my vps and hook it up. See how that works out on my ram usage
11:11<monkeyyyy>Ethereal_Whisper: how long ago was this?
11:12<Ethereal_Whisper>6 months or so I wanna say.. prompted me to move back to HexChat
11:12<Ethereal_Whisper>So I haven't tried it since
11:14<monkeyyyy>alright, ty. I'll keep an eye on it
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11:20<MonkeyDronez>test
11:21<MonkeyDronez>ok, this would be quassel
11:22<Ethereal_Whisper>Hello
11:23<MonkeyDronez>93mb client side usage
11:23<Ethereal_Whisper>Did you mess with any of the settings? I just used what they provided out of the box, and never tried tweaking anything to cut down on memory use
11:23<MonkeyDronez>25mb server-side
11:23<MonkeyDronez>nope, default settings
11:23<Ethereal_Whisper>Hm
11:23<MonkeyDronez>I have not touched anything so far, gonna go through its settings now
11:23*Ethereal_Whisper shrugs
11:24<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: they might have improved over time with updates
11:24<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: how much was Weechat using again client side?
11:24<Ethereal_Whisper>Yeah and I'm one of those people who, if prompted to do a system/software update will click on/do whatever I can to say "no stfu"
11:25<Ethereal_Whisper>Reminds me of my favorite shutdown line to use on guys
11:25<Ethereal_Whisper>"Are you a software update? Because not now, damnit"
11:26<MonkeyDronez>hehe, that's fine. brb i need to restart system. Changed regional settings so i don't have to look at arabic numbers anymore :P
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11:29<Ethereal_Whisper>My leeched wifi is chugging along at about 500kbps
11:29<Ethereal_Whisper>Heh
11:30<MonkeyDronez>lol
11:30<MonkeyDronez>damn that is some good speed
11:30<MonkeyDronez>i don't get that at home...
11:30<Ethereal_Whisper>Getting about 90kbps upstream
11:30<MonkeyDronez>well then again 3rd world vs 1st world problems :P
11:31<Ethereal_Whisper>Where are you from?
11:31<Ethereal_Whisper>http://www.speedtest.net/result/5525510970.png
11:33<Samu>http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5525518124
11:33<Samu>30/2 connection
11:34<MonkeyDronez>Bahrain, Middle East
11:34<Ethereal_Whisper>Ah, cool :)
11:34<ST2>http://www.speedtest.net/result/5525521825.png
11:35<ST2>Cabovisao is a bit crappy :(
11:35<MonkeyDronez>o.o
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11:35<MonkeyDronez>we got fiber here now but there are data caps which are complete shit and the throttling speeds are utter bullshit along with the prices. So dls for now
11:35<MonkeyDronez>dsl
11:42<MonkeyDronez>test
11:42<MonkeyDronez>someone spam this
11:42<Ethereal_Whisper>Spam what
11:42<MonkeyDronez>nice
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11:42<MonkeyDronez>trying to get the color scheme to work
11:42<Ethereal_Whisper>I see
11:44<MonkeyDronez>test test
11:44<MonkeyDronez>damn these stylesheets are so out of date
11:48*Ethereal_Whisper is confused and still tired
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11:55<MonkeyDronez>someone send me a PM please :P
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11:55<MonkeyDronez>this was a disaster :D but wip, trying to get a dark theme going for quassel
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11:56<qwebirc88721>test test
11:57<MonkeyDronez>bah, web client doesn't do whispers
11:57<Ethereal_Whisper>:(
11:58<Ethereal_Whisper>http://puu.sh/qox4w/3bc78e2b6f.jpg this is my neighborhood now (I just moved yesterday)
11:58<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: could you send me a whisper please and ty ;p
11:58<Samu>a nos é pior
11:59<MonkeyDronez>nice area, looks nice. all green adn stuff :P
11:59<Samu>cai a toda a hora
11:59<Ethereal_Whisper>Yeah, it's deep in the woods of Tonto National Forest with a little river behind the lot
11:59<Samu>cabovisao cai por ai uma vez por mes
11:59<MonkeyDronez>hopefully it stays little and never flash floods , like EVER
12:00<Ethereal_Whisper>It flash flooded in the early 90's; this house is on a slope and used to have a lower level, that got swept away in the flood
12:00<Ethereal_Whisper>There's also a forest fire scare every few years or so
12:00<MonkeyDronez>shit, i hope you got insurance and all
12:00<Ethereal_Whisper>I believe so. Not my house though
12:01<MonkeyDronez>ah ok, then they probably do
12:02<Ethereal_Whisper>I don't see why you wouldn't
12:03<MonkeyDronez>indeed, but hey, people...
12:04<MonkeyDronez>sure can surprise you in many ways
12:05<Ethereal_Whisper>True
12:05<Ethereal_Whisper>I didn't have health insurance for like 10 years once
12:06<MonkeyDronez>you in the US?
12:07<Ethereal_Whisper>Yeah.
12:10<MonkeyDronez>ah....ok
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12:15<Alkel_U3>MonkeyDronez: about the same
12:15<Eddi|zuHause>insurance companies might refuse flood insurance if a flood is reasonably likely
12:16<Alkel_U3>sorry for the lag, I fell asleep
12:17<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: not enough beer in the system to keep you going? :P
12:17<MonkeyDronez>i like this bouncer setup, no worries anymore
12:17<MonkeyDronez>muhahah
12:17<Alkel_U3>not enough sleep last night
12:19<MonkeyDronez>ah, what time is it there now?
12:20<Ethereal_Whisper>I slept poorly last night too
12:20<Ethereal_Whisper>From like 3:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. and off and on
12:21<MonkeyDronez>damn, that is brutal
12:21<MonkeyDronez>lack of sleep sure can screw us up good
12:22<Ethereal_Whisper>Well, I do absolutely nothing until my college semester starts so meh. If I get tired I can just take a nap
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12:22<Alkel_U3>it's after 18. I needed a nap so that I have the energy for the main sleep of the day
12:22<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: true that. No plan on part time work. Keep buzy
12:23<MonkeyDronez>lol Alkel_U3, sounds awesome
12:23<Ethereal_Whisper>The situation I'm in would make it pretty difficult to get a part-time job
12:23<Ethereal_Whisper>I live in a village 30 minutes away from the nearby small town and don't have my own car.
12:24<MonkeyDronez>ah ok
12:24<MonkeyDronez>online webcam stuff :P
12:25<Ethereal_Whisper>You suggesting I become a camgirl then, eh?
12:25<Ethereal_Whisper>:P
12:25<MonkeyDronez>why not, they make so much $$$$
12:25<MonkeyDronez>they make more than me...
12:25<Ethereal_Whisper>Because I actually respect my body
12:26<MonkeyDronez>so why hide it?
12:27<Ethereal_Whisper>Outta here with your logic
12:27<Ethereal_Whisper>:P
12:27<MonkeyDronez>lol
12:27<Ethereal_Whisper>I just think it's something I'd feel bad about doing
12:27<MonkeyDronez>well it's like anything else, make a habit out of it :P
12:27<MonkeyDronez>it becomes a part of you xd
12:28<MonkeyDronez>be the future you, embrace yourself
12:28<MonkeyDronez>hehe
12:28<Ethereal_Whisper>I did something similar in an online game once... exchanged some certain ... favors... for in-game currency and items. I felt awful about it for like 3 months.
12:28<MonkeyDronez>well you can always learn to do tech stuff and help out folks
12:29<MonkeyDronez>damn, Ethereal_Whisper, we all got skeletons in ze closets. xD
12:29<MonkeyDronez>well as for your situation
12:30<MonkeyDronez>being so far and isolated, online work would be beneficial. But then again that would require some contacts to start work with
12:30<MonkeyDronez>and also skillset, how good are you with computers?
12:30<Ethereal_Whisper>Well I'm on IRC not using a webclient, I'd say that's a pretty good indicator
12:31<Ethereal_Whisper>I also possess the skill of being able to Google problems/issues and follow the instructions I find
12:31<MonkeyDronez>well i've seen 60 year old open Internet Explorer :P
12:31<MonkeyDronez>well all you need is contacts and some part work
12:31<Eddi|zuHause>my mother always asks "why are there so many different browsers? why doesn't one browser suffice?"
12:31<MonkeyDronez>dont' youhave like craigslist thingy for finding small part time work stuff
12:32<Eddi|zuHause>i tried to answer "why are there different brands of cars?", but i don't think she got it
12:32<MonkeyDronez>Eddi|zuHause: i hope you didn't send her to Edge xD
12:32<Ethereal_Whisper>Response: "Why are there so many different kinds of cars? Why doesn't one kind of car for everyone suffice?"
12:32<Ethereal_Whisper>Yesterday my mom was talking about how she was able to email attachments from her phone and she was able to email a scanned attachment at Office Depot in 15 minutes
12:32<MonkeyDronez>could have just kept it simple. Edge is blueberry flavor, Firefox is raspberry and chrome is rainbow flavor
12:32<Ethereal_Whisper>I decided to burst her bubble and say "Good job, but I could have done all that in about 2 minutes"
12:32<MonkeyDronez>they are all sweet internet candies :P
12:33<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm a jerk lol
12:33<Eddi|zuHause>i think i installed firefox for her...
12:33<MonkeyDronez>15 minutes :D
12:33<MonkeyDronez>well she's learning :D
12:33<Eddi|zuHause>but she is always so terrified of touching anything on the computer
12:34<MonkeyDronez>old people and tech don't work smoothly
12:35<MonkeyDronez>my dad still uses those phones with numberpads on it
12:35<MonkeyDronez>tiny screen
12:35<Eddi|zuHause>my father is better with tech
12:35<MonkeyDronez>and makes me type sms on those.....
12:35<MonkeyDronez>3 clicks for an alphabet, damn
12:35<Eddi|zuHause>he had a programming job for most of the time
12:35<Alkel_U3>no T9?
12:35<MonkeyDronez>T9?
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12:35<Ethereal_Whisper>But yeah I'm pretty good with tech. Not bad for being 30. I still have no personal use for a tablet though, and don't think I ever will.
12:36<Ethereal_Whisper>Nor a phone with a huge screen. I have a 4" Motorola Droid Mini and that suffices for me. I can't really handle anything bigger than 4 inches.
12:36<Eddi|zuHause>MonkeyDronez: T9 is where you only press each button once, and it tries to guess which letter you meant
12:36<MonkeyDronez>ah it's just faster if i click multiple times. I'm good at it :P
12:36<Alkel_U3>T9 - kind of a predictive text input. You press each key just once and it guesses the word, you can cycle them, tech it new words...
12:37<Alkel_U3>slowme
12:37<Ethereal_Whisper>Anyone like using Swype? I don't, personally
12:37<MonkeyDronez>frack t9 ;p
12:37<MonkeyDronez>hate swype
12:37<MonkeyDronez>bro loves it
12:37<Eddi|zuHause>never heard of swype
12:37<MonkeyDronez>i'm 30 too, love me all the tech.
12:37<MonkeyDronez>got a 5' phone and a 10' tablet, Tablet is only good for reddit in bed....literally....
12:38<MonkeyDronez>have it for a year now, still reddit in bed....everynight
12:38<Ethereal_Whisper>I usually just read books in bed
12:38<MonkeyDronez>i've read like 2 or 3 books on it
12:38<Ethereal_Whisper>I had a cheap 7" tablet once. One day I accidentally stepped on it and broke the screen.
12:38<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: good job, lol
12:38<Alkel_U3>Eddi|zuHause: swype is for software keyboards - you swipe from letter to letter without lifting finger to complete words automagically
12:38<Ethereal_Whisper>I had anger issues back then so responded to the situation by taking a hammer to it.
12:39<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: yes it is. Brother is very efficient at using it. I don't bother myself to teach myself swype.
12:39<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: lol, it would have cost the same as a new one to replace a screen
12:39<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: I usually never chat on the phone. I hate typing on small screens
12:39<Alkel_U3>well, I use good old hardware keyboard when I need to type much
12:40<MonkeyDronez>Hence I use whatsapp web, Wire and Telegram desktop apps for all my communication needs
12:40<Alkel_U3>HTC Kaiser and now Desire Z
12:40<MonkeyDronez>and 1 friend does a brilliant voice recordings only on whatsapp, makes life easier :P
12:40<Ethereal_Whisper>Yeah tha's why I took a hammer to it too, I figured broken screen = beyond repair
12:40<Alkel_U3>the desire is growing really obsolete, unfortunately :(
12:40<MonkeyDronez>HTC fan eh, my next one might be an HTC
12:40<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm less of an angry person now though
12:41<Ethereal_Whisper>My first smartphone ever was an HTC
12:41<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: hehe, till you break a screen again :P
12:41<Ethereal_Whisper>HTC Dream, marketed in the US as the T-Mobile G1
12:41<Samu>just started wmdot original/npf/yapf ships
12:41<Alkel_U3>not really. Next will be either BlackBerry or LG, probably
12:41<Ethereal_Whisper>Then I had a Motorola Droid 2, replaced it with an LG Lucid, replaced that with an LG G3, lost the G3, re-activated the Lucid, had that stolen, now have a Droid Mini
12:42<Ethereal_Whisper>Wait, I briefly had an iPhone 4S once too
12:42<Ethereal_Whisper>With a pink case
12:42<Ethereal_Whisper>Was kind of a walking stereotype with that, eh?
12:42<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: damn....
12:42<Alkel_U3>until I got Kaiser I grew up on Siemens dumbphones. I still think they were among the best one could get.
12:43<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: sounds like you just have bad lunch with tech, hehe
12:43<Ethereal_Whisper>I have bad luck in general, should I start with my list of injuries I've sustained in life?
12:43<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: Siemens /Motoral when they made phones together, they had launched a flip phone, The T29 i believe
12:43<MonkeyDronez>http://refurb-phone.com/admin/data/phone_images/ericsson/ericsson_t29.jpg
12:44<MonkeyDronez>i used that for a few years, brilliant device <3 loved it with all my heart. The wrist action to flip it open <3
12:44<Alkel_U3>well, that's ericsson
12:44<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: no no, it's okay. I've a friend who probably shares the same list as you with injuries. I can relate :P
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12:44<MonkeyDronez>Alkel_U3: i remember it has 2 company names on it
12:44<Ethereal_Whisper>Haha
12:45<Ethereal_Whisper>I've broken a bunch of bones and sustained a lot of concussions, I'll just put it that way. Thanks hockey.
12:45<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: lol, sports injuries, same with the friend, lol
12:45<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: let me guess, you just love sports
12:45<MonkeyDronez>Love it to death but now too old to risk injuries :p
12:45<MonkeyDronez>and taking it on the slow lane of life now
12:46<Ethereal_Whisper>Yep, pucks are hard and break your bones, ice is hard and messes up your brain. Even if you hit your head on the ice wearing a helmet.
12:46<Ethereal_Whisper>I broke both arms by getting hit by a puck where I have no padding as a referee, and likewise with my left collarbone
12:47<MonkeyDronez>sounds great and so much fun
12:47<MonkeyDronez>D
12:47<MonkeyDronez>:D
12:47<MonkeyDronez>look maaaaa, bonesssss!
12:48<MonkeyDronez>never had broken bone myself, luckily
12:48<MonkeyDronez>planning to keep it that way for a long long time
12:48<Ethereal_Whisper>Left arm (twice), right arm, left collarbone, 4 ribs, right middle finger, left pinky, right cheekbone for me
12:49<MonkeyDronez>shit, i hope you have retired for your own sake
12:49<Ethereal_Whisper>I worked my last game last night
12:49<MonkeyDronez>shit like that will be a pain in the ass in your older age
12:49<MonkeyDronez>heh, you breathe hockey eh
12:49<NGC3982>Why does it suddenly smell Canadian in here.
12:50<MonkeyDronez>probably cause too much maple syrup on pancakes somewhere
12:50<MonkeyDronez>i always wondered what hte diabetes rate for Canada is
12:50<MonkeyDronez>all that morning sugar rush
12:50<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm American, NGC3982
12:51<Ethereal_Whisper>I also live in about the last place you'd think of for being someone so into hockey
12:51<NGC3982>Hehe
12:51<MonkeyDronez>nice try Canadian
12:51<NGC3982>│18:50 < MonkeyDronez> all that morning sugar rush
12:51<NGC3982>Was that a pun?
12:51<Ethereal_Whisper>I'll give you a hint; it's neither Massachusetts, Michigan, nor Minnesota
12:51<MonkeyDronez>yes it was :P
12:52<MonkeyDronez>from what I know about the US, you got all sorts of folks all over
12:52*NGC3982 cant even imagine where any state are.
12:52<NGC3982>Trump's gonna fuse them anyway.
12:52<MonkeyDronez>specific states mean nothing to me. California is hot and humid, Texas is full of religious folks
12:52<MonkeyDronez>the great wall of Americas
12:53<Ethereal_Whisper>I think we're going to go all Fallout style and reorganize into 13 commonwealths
12:53<MonkeyDronez>lol, i think before Trump, we will see a bigger drama with the olympics
12:53<MonkeyDronez>just read an article a while ago that the air is more dangerous in Rio then the water, hahahahaha
12:53<MonkeyDronez>like seriously, this olympics is going to make a lot of atheletes retire permanently from diseases unseen or unheard of :P
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12:54<Ethereal_Whisper>http://puu.sh/qoA77/56fba121ea.jpg new commonwealths
12:54<NGC3982>District 13..?
12:54<NGC3982>:D
12:54<MonkeyDronez>lol , yeah NewEngland for sure
12:55<Ethereal_Whisper>That's from Fallout, no the Hunger Games :P
12:56<MonkeyDronez>haven't played fallout much, only played fallout 3, and hunger games sucks
12:56<MonkeyDronez>i hate the actors in it
12:56<NGC3982>http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
12:56<NGC3982>Speaking of..
12:56<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm a huge Hunger Games fan, you take that back!
12:56<MonkeyDronez>lol yeah , read that NGC3982. Brilliant :D
12:56<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: i didn't say story sucks
12:56<MonkeyDronez>Ethereal_Whisper: i said I dislike the actors!
12:57<MonkeyDronez>I will not take it back!
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12:59*Ethereal_Whisper cries
12:59<Ethereal_Whisper>J-Law is hot though
12:59*Ethereal_Whisper is kinda bi heh
13:00<Ethereal_Whisper>Should I go open a can of diet coke
13:01<MonkeyDronez> J-Law...meh. she's a 5/10
13:01<MonkeyDronez>anyhoo i gotta drive home
13:01<MonkeyDronez>brb 15 mins folks
13:03<Ethereal_Whisper>Ok
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13:17<Samu>just vote hillary
13:18<NGC3982>The thing is, the americans must
13:18<NGC3982>I do not like her, but i don't think she will end the world
13:18<NGC3982>He will.
13:19<Eddi|zuHause>i'm still hoping that there are enough "checks and balances" in place that he actually doesn't...
13:21<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm definitely not voting for Trump, though I'm 99% certain my state is going to end up with him in the silly electoral college anyway
13:21<Eddi|zuHause>it's not like i have a say in the matter...
13:22<Eddi|zuHause>i still have this image in my head where the whole world (except poland) wanted gore, but still bush won...
13:23<Ethereal_Whisper>Heh, I remember that election... unfortunately couldn't vote in it since I was 14 at the time
13:23<Ethereal_Whisper>2004 was the first election year I could vote
13:26<Ethereal_Whisper>I has a can of diet coke
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13:40<Samu>nobody votes in portugal
13:40<Samu>60% abstention
13:40<Samu>politics...
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13:41<Samu>useless scum
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14:26<MonkeyDrone>well this thing worls well, got my bouncer running nice and well
14:27<frosch123>so, now you can join team idle-eternal
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14:28<MonkeyDrone>amen
14:29<Alkel_U3>I guess there's no idle rpg on oftc
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14:32<MonkeyDrone>idle rpg is best rpg
14:32<Eddi|zuHause>but what if joining the idlerpg is already breaking the rules of idlerpg?
14:33<MonkeyDrone>well this is the Matrix, rules can be bent :P
14:41<MonkeyDrone>alright, life is good again, client has gone dark theme now <3
14:42<Ethereal_Whisper>Mine's on light theme
14:43<MonkeyDrone>nice, i like mine dark, been always a fan of the dark
14:46<Ethereal_Whisper>The dark side, eh?
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14:48<MonkeyDrone>dark side of the moon
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14:50<Ethereal_Whisper>Isn't that a Pink Floyd album?
14:52<MonkeyDrone>yes , yes it is
14:52<MonkeyDrone>one that i listen to all too regularly
14:52<Ethereal_Whisper>Ah, they're not really my style of music
14:52<Ethereal_Whisper>I prefer pop and country
14:52<MonkeyDrone>pop.....
14:52<MonkeyDrone>pop.........
14:52*MonkeyDrone brain crashes
14:53<Ethereal_Whisper>I listen to singers like Taylor Swift, Carly Rae Jepsen, Lorde, Chvrches, etc.
14:53<Samu>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pzzz7xcCyo nope
14:54<MonkeyDrone>pop isn't my thing i guess, but Taylor Swift seems to be famous for something
14:54<MonkeyDrone>have not heard names of the others
14:56<Ethereal_Whisper>It's a very international lineup that
14:56<Ethereal_Whisper>Carly's from Canada, Lorde is from New Zealand, and Chvrches is from Scotland
14:56<MonkeyDrone>well makes sense why I have not heard of them. That is indeed quiet the wide variety
14:56<Macha>No idea who Carly Rae is, Taylor Swift is not my thing, Chvrches I only heard about because new Mirror's Edge. It's not a bad song, but I'm prejudiced against it for not being Still Alive :p
14:57<Macha>I was about to say I'd heard of Lorde, but I was thinking of Lordi, the Finnish metal band
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14:59<MonkeyDrone>I should probably try to expand my music, but i generally just go deep house on youtube and let it run in the background while i am doing stuff
14:59<Macha>I used to listen to more actual music
14:59<Macha>But over the last 5 years or so, anime and video game soundtracks have grown to like half my music collection :p
14:59<MonkeyDrone>there is no 'actual' music :P , it's all subjective, hehe
15:01<MonkeyDrone>what anime you been watching lately?
15:02<Macha>Jojo Stardust Crusaders atm. Recently finished Nanoha Strikers and Girls Und Panzer Der Film
15:02<Macha>Oh, and somehow forgot I finished Gurenn Lagann a couple days ago too
15:02<MonkeyDrone>currently watching 'Aderamin on the sky', mob psycho 100, Re:Zero starting life in another world, all 3 are pretty decent. I've heard i shoudl watch psycho pass
15:03<Macha>Oh yeah, it's definitely in my top 5 anime
15:03<MonkeyDrone>Gurenn Lagann, that's old! brilliant one
15:03<Macha>Yeah, put like 5 tracks from the OST on my phone too :p
15:03<Macha>(Which is how soundtracks are overtaking not-soundtracks in stuff I listen to :p)
15:04<MonkeyDrone>lol, it happens :P
15:04<Macha>But Libera Me From Hell is awesome :p
15:05<MonkeyDrone>don't recall it
15:06<Macha>Opera + Rap, Row row fight the power? It's a very memorable song, even if it's not your thing 0_0
15:06<Macha>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE
15:07<MonkeyDrone>lol Samu, what the hell was that xD
15:07<MonkeyDrone>Opera I love, RAP, hate it with passion
15:08<Samu>dark side of the moon
15:09<MonkeyDrone>Samu: ....you aint' wrong, lol
15:13<Macha>But yeah, my top 5: Serial Experiments Lain, Psycho Pass, Log Horizon, Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica (inc. Rebellion)
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15:16<MonkeyDrone>i'll not some of these names and look em up
15:16<MonkeyDrone>if you haven't already, i suggest getting around to Death Note and Samurai Champloo
15:17<Macha>I've seen Death Note, not seen Samurai Champloo
15:17<MonkeyDrone>definitely worth a watch, one season. Excellent animation / artwork
15:17<MonkeyDrone>and it will add at least 5 songs to your sound collection, i can gaurantee you that ;P
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15:20<MonkeyDrone>that show's trailer does zero justice to the show x.x
15:20<MonkeyDrone>tell me you have seen 'Black Lagoon'!
15:23<Alkel_U3>dorfs dug out a 3-level deep 1 tile wide hole. None of them miners has any climbing skill. How the hell did they get out?
15:24<Ethereal_Whisper>I'm eating a pastrami sandwich and tomato soup for lunch
15:24<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: used pickaxes as walking sticks up the wall
15:24<Alkel_U3>damn they're smart
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15:25<Macha>Which show's trailer?
15:25<Macha>And no, I haven't
15:25<MonkeyDrone>Samurai Champloo's trailer
15:26<MonkeyDrone>if you like mercenaries, crime / thriller animes, you will like Black Lagoon
15:31<Macha>Had some dwarves beat a forgotten beast to death with their fists once, dwarves are resourceful :p
15:31<Macha>https://imgur.com/bRHG1
15:36<MonkeyDrone>lol Macha, brutal dwarf
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15:36<MonkeyDrone>i would not pick a fight with Ulde
15:37<Macha>Back in 40d or v0.31, can't remember which. Had a map spawn with no metal, couldn't figure out how to build crossbows either
15:37<Macha>Cue my militia of wrestlers attempting to wrestle it to death
15:43<MonkeyDrone>lol, awesome xD
15:45<Alkel_U3>profficient wrestlers were always dangerous, especially back then when it was easier to smash one's face in
15:45<MonkeyDrone>not anymore eh?
15:45<Eddi|zuHause>mountain-style?
15:46<Alkel_U3>still pretty dangerous, just not as much since the mechanics got upgraded
15:46<Alkel_U3>more like Brick-style
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15:50<Eddi|zuHause>who or what is brick?
15:51<Alkel_U3>that's a character from Borderlands http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/35850/1855733-borderlands_brick.jpg
15:51<Samu>wmdot bankrupted, strange
15:51<Samu>i missed that
15:52<Alkel_U3>oh wait, this was more apropriate http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/borderlands/images/c/c9/Brick_profile.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120822212225
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16:01<MonkeyDrone>Brick is awesome
16:03<MonkeyDrone>Hmmm , is there an ottd headless client that can connect to a server and stay in company so it never closes down?
16:05<MonkeyDrone>Afaik, we will need new apis to be coded in.
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16:21<MonkeyDrone>Off to bed for now, goodnight
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16:32<Eddi|zuHause>MonkeyDrone: why would you need that?
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17:20<Samu>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv9YoYCKNoE - nice music, retarded videos, wtf is she pretending to be the new lady gaga?
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19:36<Wolf01>'night
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23:29<MonkeyDrone>anyone has a spare Ultraedit license lying around? :D
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