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---Logopened Thu Aug 04 00:00:32 2016
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01:21<archlinuxrussian>hi, anyone around at this hour? :)
01:23<MonkeyDrone>me but im' just a civ
01:24<archlinuxrussian>just a Civ? O_o
01:24<archlinuxrussian>Anyway, just curious if anyone here uses the "joker patchpack" of OpenTTD...
01:25<MonkeyDrone>never heard of it :P
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01:26<archlinuxrussian>MonkeyDrone: o.o uhm...okay? Lol. And it's fine.
01:27<archlinuxrussian>Just been having it crash on me a tonne...but it has something amazing included: automatic spacing of vehicles...
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01:28<MonkeyDrone>probably why it crashes, lol
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01:29<archlinuxrussian>Pretty much...just saddened lol.
01:29<Alkel_U3>you mean autoseparation?
01:29<archlinuxrussian>I love playing OpenTTD and it scratches an itch o.o
01:29<archlinuxrussian>Alkel_U3: yep
01:29<archlinuxrussian>I believe so at least...
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01:30<archlinuxrussian>it's part of the Joker Patchpack
01:31<Alkel_U3>that's included in a lot of patchpacks. Namely I'd recommend JGR's patchpack, he seems to take the stability quite seriously (not saying others aren't but this one I'm following the most). The feature list of that pack is also quite good imho.
01:33<Alkel_U3>I even learned that some sort of autoseparation is present in trunk, but it's quite awkward to use
01:33<Alkel_U3>see here
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01:34<archlinuxrussian>That system where you control+click on "start date" and it issues dif start dates?
01:34<Alkel_U3>also if you encounter a crash or a bug with a patchpack, probably write a post in its thread on forums so the author canremedy it
01:34<archlinuxrussian>Alkel_U3: I already made an issue on the joker patchpack github
01:35<Alkel_U3>yeah, I guess that's it.Not very powerfull and needs to be corrected with every change
01:36<archlinuxrussian>haha yep
01:36<archlinuxrussian>when I add a new train, it'll just make things more convoluted haha
01:38<archlinuxrussian>Alkel_U3: thanks for the new patchpack recomendation :)
01:41<archlinuxrussian>JGR while compiling spurted out an error
01:41<Alkel_U3>I've always compiled without trouble on ubuntu
01:42<archlinuxrussian>Arch here
01:42<Alkel_U3>I guessed :P
01:43<archlinuxrussian>pssh...git-cloned from a fork of JGR's stuff
01:43<MonkeyDrone>wooo finally got my nginx going again
01:44<Alkel_U3>I usually just download the source from the thread
01:44<Alkel_U3>probably less efficient, but not so much I care :-)
01:46<Alkel_U3>nginx... I'm still battling it regarding a reverse proxy. My URL shotener for weechat still doesn't work due to that :(
01:47<archlinuxrussian>Alkel_U3: yeah, I'd prefer to pull from git :P so if I wana update it's "git pull ; and make
01:58<MonkeyDrone>great, my internet is dead because windows anniversary update download is sucking up all the juice :D
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02:18<archlinuxrussian>MonkeyDrone: lol
02:25<Alkel_U3>argh! Vampire! And it turned out to be my best broker and mechanic :(
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02:37<Flygon><Flygon> Y'know
02:37<Flygon><Flygon> The most frustrating thing with the Chinese straddlebus (why does that sound so sexy), is that they didn't even bother making it Double Deck. Even though they basically have unlimited vertical loading gauge.
02:38<Alkel_U3>maybe they wanted to fit it under some street fixtures or bridges?
02:38<Flygon>I was running under the assumption they weren't putting it under bridges <_>
02:39<Alkel_U3>oh, I also just assume, I veven't bothered to read up on details :-)
02:39<Flygon>I mean, personally
02:39<Flygon>I think the whole concept is silly anyway
02:40<Flygon>If it were up to me, and it HAD to be above the traffic, inside an ultra-compact space. I'd just use one of those monorails like in Germany
02:40<Flygon>Where the floor has nothing under it
02:40<Alkel_U3>so do I but let's see how it works out for them
02:40<Flygon>And the thing powers itself on the roof
02:41<Alkel_U3>well, this seems like the construction cost for the infrastructure might be lower than elevated monorail
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03:15<archlinuxrussian>Alkel_U3: thanks again for the recommendation! It's working quite well :) now to find a good map >___> lol. Can't wait to set up my own Amtrak company now xD lol
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03:22<MonkeyDrone>Sweet, i can stalk ze irc from my cellphone.
03:22<V453000>in replace blocks, can I do something like 2733-2736 and replace all those vehicles with a single spritesheet template?
03:23<V453000>or do I have to have a single replace block for each sprite ID?
03:30<V453000>because it would mean I need 8 templates per zoom level and 8bpp/32bpp for trains
03:30<V453000>1 template for each rotation
03:30<V453000>is that mandantory?
03:49<@Alberth>templates are just conveniences in writing down repeated patterns, you can always expand the template yourself to "bare" code.
03:50<@Alberth>what is 2733-2736?
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04:04<V453000>sprite IDs
04:05<V453000>I just read that putting 2733 there automatically loads all 8
04:05<V453000>is syke
04:10<@Alberth>ok, don't understand what that means, but you apparently do
04:12<V453000>replace WAGONS_RAIL_PASSENGER (2733) { template_x1_8bpp_vehicle8 (0,"gfx/TRAINS_8bpp.png") }
04:12<V453000>with template which uses 8x []
04:12<V453000>loads 4 or 8 views automatically
04:13<V453000>and automatically replaces these sprite IDs, first one being 2733
04:13<V453000>I am especially surprised that it automatically knows whether to use 4 or 8 views
04:13<V453000>or maybe
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04:13<V453000>it doesn't :D
04:13<V453000>oh yeah it just replaces 8 of them in a row
04:13<V453000>ok that is a slight oversight XD
04:13<V453000>but that's fine
04:14<V453000>in other news, BRIX vehicles will be awesome
04:14<V453000>gtg for now
04:18<Wolf01>Nice, windows ready to update even here
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04:24<Wolf01>It seem really more usable now on my tablet
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05:11<Wolf01>Good, let's see how many ages it takes to update, bbl
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06:16<Wolf01>hey, look who's back :D
06:17<Wolf01>The tablet took 6 hours to update this night :(
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06:24<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01 ,win tab? My pc w10 update took 15 minutes after having whole thing downloaded.
06:25<Wolf01>Maybe even this one, I wasn't here while it updated
06:45<MonkeyDrone>who's going to push ottd 1.6.1 stable to ubuntu repo?
06:45<MonkeyDrone>damn, have to download 161 like a savag
06:45<MonkeyDrone>savage :P
06:49<Alkel_U3>just use playdeb repository
06:49<Alkel_U3>like a civilised man :-)
06:52<MonkeyDrone>playdeb, will google that Alkel_U3, ty
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06:53<MonkeyDrone>holy crap it has NFS2
06:53<MonkeyDrone>so installing that
06:54<Alkel_U3>just run " wget -q -O- | sudo apt-key add - " and "echo 'deb xenial-getdeb games' >> /etc/apt/sources.d/getdeb.list"
06:54<Alkel_U3>optionally append apps after games in the second command to get also the getdeb repo
06:55<MonkeyDrone>already done, installing nfs2 :P
06:57<MonkeyDrone>damn, should have done this trhough terminal, atleast i would have seen it's size, taking its sweeet time
07:01<Alkel_U3>damn, it must be new. Only for Xenial. I really should upgrade my Trusty soon :-)
07:01<Alkel_U3>especially now that a service pack is out
07:03<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: hehe, yeah you should :P
07:03<MonkeyDrone>quiet a few decent games in there that have my attention
07:03<Alkel_U3>most of those are available for older releases of ubuntu as well
07:04<MonkeyDrone>indeed, well i just downloaded it yesterday so i'm on 16.04.1
07:05<MonkeyDrone>some of these games are really old from game console age
07:05<MonkeyDrone>heh got goonies on the last page :P
07:07<Alkel_U3>I was surprised that ScummVM got support for The Neverhood Chronicles recently
07:08<MonkeyDrone>what is that?
07:09<MonkeyDrone>ah i see it
07:09<MonkeyDrone>Beneath a steel sky, only game on the list i've played there
07:11<Alkel_U3>your question was aimed at scummvm, not neverhood, I pressume
07:11<MonkeyDrone>both, but i found Scummvm
07:11<MonkeyDrone>i assume neverhood is a game for it
07:12<Alkel_U3>well, not "for it" in all aspects. ScummVM is engine that can run old adventure games
07:13<Alkel_U3>Neverhood is an amazing claymation game from around 1995
07:16<MonkeyDrone>heh, when i was only 10 years old ;P damn we gotten old :Pp
07:16<MonkeyDrone>well enjoy it when it comes :D
07:18<V453000>sup neverhoods
07:20<MonkeyDrone>i mean enjoy it when you get time to play it :D
07:20<MonkeyDrone>sup V453000
07:20<MonkeyDrone>congrats on teh breakthrough :p
07:20<Alkel_U3>hey everhood
07:21<V453000>what breakthrough?
07:22<MonkeyDrone>vehicle sprites
07:23<MonkeyDrone>making headway along with the project:D
07:24<V453000>shall be great
07:24<V453000>moar effortz in the evening
07:41<MonkeyDrone>lol @ Edge, sneaking it's shortcut into the taskbar after the anniversary update. good try M$
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07:46<Wolf01>Edge is really better now
07:48<Wolf01>Also I noticed it doesn't hang up anymore with multitouch
07:48<Eddi|zuHause>"it doesn't crash" is now the standard level for a microsoft program being "good"?
07:49<Wolf01>And they reintroduced the swipe for the history
07:49<Wolf01>Also adblock
07:50<Wolf01>It's really fast on rendering
07:56<MonkeyDrone>lol Eddi|zuHause, straight for the low blow xD
07:56<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01: maybe it works well on the tab
07:56<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01: but as a desktop windows user, i'll stick to FF and Chrome
07:57<MonkeyDrone>i've been using FF since forever, only for a few months i switched to Chrome because their support / implementation was horrible as hell during the W8 stage
07:57<Wolf01>ff started to annoy me, chrome is going safari
07:57<MonkeyDrone>they couldn't manage to get their shit together for quiet a while, the memory leaks...
07:58<MonkeyDrone>Ff seems to be on a stable edition now, hopefully they don't go fuck it all up again
07:58<MonkeyDrone>Chrome is my backup, Edge can be my last resort. I still have Opera before that :P
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07:58<Alkel_U3>nothing else has vimperator or pentadactyl. cvim is close-ish but not quite there :(
07:58<Alkel_U3>otherwise I'd start considering Vivaldi
07:59<Wolf01>Ff fucked up again with 48, I'll wait at least 48.3 before considering to update
07:59<MonkeyDrone>Vivaldi, i see opera cofounder ris working magic on it
08:00<MonkeyDrone>ok i am on 47.0.1 but now its downloading an update, 22mb, at this speed, needs 10 mins :P
08:00<Alkel_U3>it really bothers me that one can't use addons like cvim or mouse gestures on special pages in chrome-based browsers
08:00<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01: then again it fucked up your RSS feed right, i don't use that so i probably won't notice anything different with it
08:00<Samu>1998, 1998, 2013
08:00<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: never heard of cvim, good tuff?
08:01<Wolf01>Not my RSS, every single RSS which looks malformed
08:01<Alkel_U3>MonkeyDrone: adds vim-style commands to chrome-based browsers, similar to vimperator in FF
08:01<Alkel_U3>good for me, not good for everybody
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08:02<Alkel_U3>it really depends on one's preferences
08:06<MonkeyDrone>vim style commands, yeah i'll pass on that :P
08:09<MonkeyDrone>Vivaldi looks promising, gonna install that.
08:19<MonkeyDrone>Vivaldi is based on chrome,
08:19<MonkeyDrone>so disappointing
08:24<Alkel_U3>still, it's closer to the original Opera. There was hope (however small) that Opera would retain it's functionality and just swap Presto for Blink when they announced it. Unfortunately, they effectively performed lobotomy on it.
08:27<MonkeyDrone>ah shame, but they can work towards making Blink better and getting most of the love from Presto in there
08:28<MonkeyDrone>but that would take time and money and do they even want to
08:28<MonkeyDrone>oh well, i'm gonna take a nap :P
08:28<MonkeyDrone>feel super sleeeepy
08:28<MonkeyDrone>or tea or coffee
08:28<MonkeyDrone>or sleep
08:28<MonkeyDrone>sleeeep for 30 mins :P
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08:51<Wolf01>I coffee for 30 minutes instead
08:57<Alkel_U3>I'd also coffee but I'm picky and will have to wait a week before the coffee machine at work runs out of this crappy supermarket coffee :(
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09:06<Wolf01>ok, coffee time
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10:23<MonkeyDrone>Well nap time went too long xD
10:33<Eddi|zuHause>depends on your definition of 30 minutes
10:39<MonkeyDrone>hehe , 30 mins is 30 mins xD. Well off to get some workout done. Laters :p
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11:00<MonkeyDrone>Nope, too lazy to workout today. Gonna chill here at the park. Hehe
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11:51<Alkel_U3>great tragedy fell upon me. I ran out of beer.
11:52<Samu>2014, 2014, 2015
11:53<Alkel_U3>luckily my flatmate has some leftover jugs of mead
11:53<Alkel_U3>so I will not go insane today
11:57<@Alberth>quick, run to the shop and buy new beer
11:57<Alkel_U3>sure, I need to return the empty bottles anyway
11:58<Alkel_U3>I'm not sure I can fit it all into my hiking backpack anymore
12:00<Alkel_U3>I need to get gass accesory for my beer tap, then I can have draft beer from one barrel for two weeks
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12:40<Alkel_U3>aaand a vile force of darkness has arrived. That's gonna be... fun.
12:40<Alkel_U3>MonkeyDrone: how is your "fun" doing, anyway? :-)
12:41<Hiddenfunstuff>You have a beer tap?
12:41<Alkel_U3>sure, that's very handy stuff
12:41<Hiddenfunstuff>Do you need anything else than a beer barrel for it?
12:41<Alkel_U3>a basic model with hand-pump
12:42<Hiddenfunstuff>Can you use air for the tap?
12:42<Alkel_U3>no, but i pressurize it with air, which means the beer will oxidize if not drunk quickly (a day at most)
12:42<Hiddenfunstuff>Hmm thats problematic
12:42<Hiddenfunstuff>Solution: gravity fed tap
12:42<Hiddenfunstuff>mount the barrel on the ceiling
12:43<Alkel_U3>that's not gonna work due to how the barrel works :-)
12:43<MonkeyDrone> Fun is good, hot wind today :( arabs need to build that artificial mountain here asap
12:43<Hiddenfunstuff>flip the barrel around
12:43<Alkel_U3>MonkeyDrone: I was talking about :-)
12:43<Hiddenfunstuff>Assuming the barrel is like a gas bottle
12:43<MonkeyDrone>Probably using walmart barrel,hence problems
12:44<Alkel_U3>we don't have walmart in czech republic :P
12:44<Hiddenfunstuff>a keg?
12:44<MonkeyDrone>Not played df since yesterday. The whole server rework kept me busy
12:44<Alkel_U3>yeah, keg
12:44<Hiddenfunstuff>wooden or steel?
12:44<Hiddenfunstuff>Hmm shouldnt be a issue
12:44<Hiddenfunstuff>they usually have even perfect handles to mount it up side down
12:45<Alkel_U3>problem is, even if you empty it using gravty, you need to put something else in it, you can't just pour it out and leave vacuum
12:45<Hiddenfunstuff>punch a hole in it
12:45<MonkeyDrone>Hidden, alkel is just too drunk to understand gravity
12:45<Hiddenfunstuff>or a 1 way ball valve
12:46<Alkel_U3>a hole will, again, introduce air
12:46<MonkeyDrone>When you pour it out, air goes in.....
12:46<MonkeyDrone>If it had vacuum inside, nothing would co e out
12:46<Alkel_U3>if the presuure drops too much, it won't pour out
12:46<Hiddenfunstuff>yes but if the air goes back in from the same hole beer comes out
12:46<@Alberth>beer in plastic bag
12:46<Hiddenfunstuff>the beer doesnt come out proplery
12:46<MonkeyDrone>Not unless it3upside down, hehe
12:46<MonkeyDrone>Seriously, get better barrels
12:46<Hiddenfunstuff>its like a weak flow of an 80 year old male trying to dump liquid waste
12:47<MonkeyDrone>Sounds like some shoddy craftsmanship on them barrels
12:47<Alkel_U3>but I don't want the air to get inside because that will oxidize the beer! And I can do that with my pump tap already
12:47<Alkel_U3>Alberth: right, tank beer!
12:48<@Alberth>use next bag of beer as weight to get good flow :p
12:48<Hiddenfunstuff>Hmm.. introduce CO2 in it?
12:48<Hiddenfunstuff>rather than air?
12:48<MonkeyDrone>Just suck the beer right out the tap
12:48<Hiddenfunstuff>vacuum pump!
12:48<MonkeyDrone>Fucking genius right
12:49<MonkeyDrone>Google it!
12:49<Alkel_U3>unfortunately my favorite breweries (the smaller ones) don't do tank beer and I don't drink _that_ much
12:50<@Alberth>Keg looks like a good solution, internal spear :)
12:50<@Alberth>throw a party?
12:50<Alkel_U3>Hiddenfunstuff: CO2? Well, that's what I was talking about with the gas system :-)
12:50<Hiddenfunstuff>yeah, punch a hole in it and then just push CO2 at higher pressure into the keg
12:50<Hiddenfunstuff>though you need to figure out how to generate CO2
12:51<Alkel_U3>usually, but between parties i want the keg for myself and I can't empty it fast enough
12:51<Hiddenfunstuff>Depending on where you live, that shouldnt be a problem
12:51<MonkeyDrone>U sure love your beer
12:52<Hiddenfunstuff>Come on, a 120l keg isnt htat hard to empty
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12:52<Hiddenfunstuff>was thinking of an oil barrel
12:53<Alkel_U3>first, if i punch a hole in the keg, it will cost me around $50 on the keg. Second, I can just spend around $180 to purchase the equipment and it will then cost just 1/25 USD extra for every bear drought :-)
12:53<Alkel_U3>it is, if you have it all for yourself and you need to do it in two days :D
12:54<Alkel_U3>but for a grill party with 20 people, the 50l keg is ideal
12:54<Hiddenfunstuff>Is there not some sort of plumbing work that CO2 goes in from 1 port and the beer comes out of another port, and that thing plugs into the hole in the keg that is normally used to fill/empty it
12:54<Alkel_U3>yeah, I was talking about it
12:54<Hiddenfunstuff>shouldnt be too hard to manufacture
12:55<Alkel_U3>but you don't want to use pure CO2, that will dissolve in the beer and it will be to fizzy
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12:55<Alkel_U3>you want to use mixture of CO2 and N2
12:55<Hiddenfunstuff>So its like gas welding
12:56<Hiddenfunstuff>bit of that and more of that
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12:56<Alkel_U3>also you need to use a pressure regulator valve
12:56<Hiddenfunstuff>yeah, all basic plumbing elements
12:57<Alkel_U3>ideal ratio for beer is 20% CO2 : 80% N2, ierc
12:58<Hiddenfunstuff>Either way, i envy you
12:59<Hiddenfunstuff>btw how much is the beer for a barrel straight from brewery?
13:00<Alkel_U3>it's something like $0.5 for 0.5 l, simmilar to bottled beer
13:00<Alkel_U3>but you can get better stuff in kegs
13:00<Hiddenfunstuff>Holy crap..
13:00<Hiddenfunstuff>50$ for a keg of beer?
13:01<Alkel_U3>but that's here in Czech Republic, where in restaurants the cheapest drink you can order is usually beer (often even over tap water :D)
13:02<Hiddenfunstuff>Gotta strike a deal with a brewery..
13:02<Hiddenfunstuff>+20e for a 12 pack of .33l cans is ripoff, and thats the cheapest sewegage
13:04<Alkel_U3>I was to Finland once. it was funny, 3 m wide shelf dedicated to beer, half of it Czech. Even the crappiest crap started out at 3.20€ :D
13:04<Hiddenfunstuff>fucking alcohol tax is ridiculous
13:04<MonkeyDrone>Get rekt Finland
13:04<Alkel_U3>and 5€ for .33 of Heineken in a club? Hahaha lolnope
13:05<Hiddenfunstuff>wanna guess the price inside concerts and festivals?
13:05<MonkeyDrone>Well alcohol related diseases and medical bills cost $$$
13:05<Alkel_U3>no, not really :D
13:05<Hiddenfunstuff>usually around 8e for a small pint
13:05<Hiddenfunstuff>now they are now ramping up the tobacco taxes and prices too
13:06<Hiddenfunstuff>and want to ban the e-cig liquids too, so that there must be no any flavour..
13:06<MonkeyDrone>Drugs cost ,hehe
13:06<Alkel_U3>but it was also funny how every green area of Helsinki got filled with drunks on Friday evening and the up to then clean city got a little makeover overnight :D
13:07<Hiddenfunstuff>you want to try to quit smoking? and move to e cigs? HAHA fuck you.. we'll tax it even harder and ban all the flavours of it
13:07<MonkeyDrone>I like my shrooms and lsd. :D
13:07<Hiddenfunstuff>Helsinki is fairly clean place, apart from the other colored people and black hairs
13:08<Alkel_U3>it seemed to recover pretty quickly, though
13:08<Hiddenfunstuff>Go elsewhere and you'll see regular fights in lines for food etc
13:09<Hiddenfunstuff>but also only time when you see natives outside: weekend nights
13:09<Alkel_U3>but I'd like to revisit Romania someday. The printed guide said to try their beer and it said so for a reason :-)
13:10<Hiddenfunstuff>never would've thought Romania would make good beer
13:11<Alkel_U3>hehe, night... I was visiting on the second weekend of July - what the F, the store's closed already? It's only... oh, it's 23:30.
13:11<Alkel_U3>Hungaria on the other hand was quite a letdown in this regard
13:11<Hiddenfunstuff>Just few weeks ago it was first evening in the north
13:11<Hiddenfunstuff>for like a month
13:12<Alkel_U3>now excuse me, I'm gonna have to go play Super Mario
13:12<Alkel_U3>(kitchen sink clogged)
13:12<Hiddenfunstuff>remember to use enough lubrication
13:13<Alkel_U3>I'm just gonna launch fireballs at it until it gives
13:18<MonkeyDrone>just hire some isis
13:18<MonkeyDrone>tell em infidel in the pipes
13:18<Hiddenfunstuff>now thats rude
13:21<Alkel_U3>I can blow the pipes up myslef, thank you very much :P
13:21<Alkel_U3>also, that was easier than expected
13:21<MonkeyDrone>you like to blow pipes eh
13:21*MonkeyDrone winks
13:21<Hiddenfunstuff>it makes funny noise
13:22<Alkel_U3>prior application of KOH was quite effective
13:22<Alkel_U3>I like to blow on beer bottles :P
13:23<MonkeyDrone>beer, what goes in also comes out right, beer?
13:23<Hiddenfunstuff>they put beer in the keg in brewery, then you take it out and put it in your mouth at home
13:26<MonkeyDrone>Hiddenfunstuff: good save :D
13:26<Hiddenfunstuff>What did your pervy mind think about?
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13:28<Alkel_U3>wow medication
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13:29<MonkeyDrone>you don't want to know Hiddenfunstuff:p
13:29<MonkeyDrone>lol, good meds
13:29<MonkeyDrone>make addiction feel better
13:29<Arveen>id take those meds every day
13:29<Hiddenfunstuff>even if its anti depressants or other horirble meds
13:29<Alkel_U3>hm, Arven? Son of Quater? Or just a coincidence? :-)
13:31<Hiddenfunstuff>whose quater?
13:31<Arveen>its defo not my father :P
13:31<Alkel_U3>Quater is a creation of Father
13:32<Hiddenfunstuff>i'm still confused
13:32<Alkel_U3>Ah, nobody here played Neverhood, I see :D
13:33<Arveen>nope. never heard of that
13:34<Hiddenfunstuff>neither us
13:34<MonkeyDrone>nope, sorry mate
13:34<MonkeyDrone>back in those days, internet was rare and stuff was hard to go around :D
13:34<Arveen>we only know ottd and thats it :D
13:34<Alkel_U3>shame, it's a bloody brilliant game
13:34<Hiddenfunstuff>we only OTTD and factorio
13:34<Alkel_U3>And Factorio and Dwarf Fortress :P
13:34<MonkeyDrone>i know what cookies are though
13:34<MonkeyDrone>hah, i'm playing factorio right now on my vps, it's running pretty smooth :P
13:34<Hiddenfunstuff>you have VPS running factorio 24/7?
13:36<Alkel_U3>among other things, it has awesome soundtrack :-)
13:36<MonkeyDrone>i got a SSD vps
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13:37<MonkeyDrone>so trying it out, i don't know how well it will work with a full fledged company
13:37<Hiddenfunstuff>heh, /r/factorio would like to have word with you
13:37<Alkel_U3>I think the ssd is about the last important parameter
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13:38<Hiddenfunstuff>SSD generally are least important thing in such small game
13:39<MonkeyDrone>it's the CPU i know
13:39<MonkeyDrone>my setup is bare and empty, i just started mining copper
13:39<MonkeyDrone>don't even have electricity :P
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13:39<Hiddenfunstuff>tell us when you past 50 hours
13:39<MonkeyDrone>i have not playedf acotorio isnce hte last major update came out
13:39<MonkeyDrone>will keep you updated
13:39<Arveen>i cant decide yet if i should try it
13:39<Hiddenfunstuff>80h in in a .13 beta thing
13:40<Hiddenfunstuff>cant update to newer game version yet
13:40<Alkel_U3><MonkeyDrone | don't even have electricity :P> for a second I thought you're talking about the server :D
13:40<Hiddenfunstuff>have to finish this
13:40<MonkeyDrone>i'm on the latest experimental
13:40<MonkeyDrone>just grabbed it today afternoon
13:41<Alkel_U3>oh, shoot, I forgot, I have the siege at hand :(
13:41<Hiddenfunstuff>80 hours in and still not even producing processing units..
13:42<Hiddenfunstuff>I kinda lost like 15 hours when i was doing train stuff
13:44<MonkeyDrone>you savages are welcome to play on it if you want :P
13:45<TrueBrain>oeh, I see an invite for a DoS! :D
13:45<Hiddenfunstuff>i'll rather dont take your virginity of factorio out
13:45<MonkeyDrone>virignity, what are you talking about
13:45<MonkeyDrone>i lost that long long time ago
13:45<MonkeyDrone>i've lost months to this game
13:45<MonkeyDrone>god damn bobsmods
13:46<Hiddenfunstuff>you made it seem like you never played it
13:48<MonkeyDrone>naah, i had the server running on a dedicated machine before
13:48<MonkeyDrone>so i don't know how well a vps will work
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13:52<MonkeyDrone>hmmm my bigger problem with factorio might be the ram
13:53<MonkeyDrone>i only have 2gigs, it's using 370mb as it stands
13:53<MonkeyDrone>overall usage is 773M/1.91GB
13:54<Hiddenfunstuff>factorio is actually quite light
13:55<MonkeyDrone>i don't remember how much memory it used to use before. Was quiet a while ago
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14:00<Alkel_U3>guess what's wrong with this picture
14:02<Hiddenfunstuff>a happy dwarf?
14:02<Hiddenfunstuff>or the cats?
14:03<Alkel_U3>happy wouldn't be a problem. They're just a bit too... dead.
14:10<MonkeyDrone>poor dead dwarves
14:12<Alkel_U3>only the locked-up vampire remains now, all others are dead. The trolls are going through the fortress and destroing the doors...
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14:15<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: you have failed again! for the last time dammit!
14:15<Alkel_U3>MonkeyDrone: let's wait how your fort turns out :P
14:16<Alkel_U3>oh, cool... I forgot to seal off one last bit of the cavern. One gob slipped out into it, got eaten by a GCS
14:18<Alkel_U3>yes, you horrible monster, avenge my poor dorfs
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14:23<MonkeyDrone>freakin nights in factorio
14:23<MonkeyDrone>what kind of stupid sun do we have in this world that there's hardly any light at night
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14:32<MonkeyDrone>why are there so many games to play and so little time!
14:32<MonkeyDrone>alright, if anyone is into website look/style. Opinions on this theme for making a website about stories.
14:34<Samu>2026, 2026, 2016
14:36<Alkel_U3>booyeah, vampire mayor scores fatality with bare hands! One down, 35 to go! :D
14:36<V453000>it's not possible to define mono/mglv water/rubber wagons, right?
14:36<V453000>they have to be same as rail
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14:43<V453000>oh and fruit
14:45<frosch123>yep, seems so
14:47<frosch123>you can see that in src/table/engines.h
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14:53<frosch123>i found your hg commit hook yesterday :)
14:55<@Alberth>oh, at devzone?
14:55<frosch123>we had to configure brix to allow pushing zips
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14:57<@Alberth>nice piece of magic, that code :p
14:57<frosch123>it was documented enough, so i did not have to read the code :p
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14:58<@Alberth>I have been busy adding more sense into the fios stuff
14:59<@Alberth>and killing a duplicate enum here and there
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14:59<frosch123>yay :)
15:00<@Alberth>still have to code the console file list storage
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15:02<@Alberth>I think I have arrived at the _file_to_saveload now, or at least its enum data members
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15:39<andythenorth>still cat
15:40<@Alberth>or, meow
15:40<MonkeyDrone>one of my hdds is starting to die, bad sectors starting to pop up
15:40<MonkeyDrone>100+ now
15:41<andythenorth>what is a hdd?
15:41*andythenorth wonders how many bad blocks his ssd has
15:43<MonkeyDrone>HDD is old school kool is what it is
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15:43<andythenorth>I do miss the gyroscope effect in my laptop
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15:47<@Alberth>just add a dummy hdd that you don't actually use :p
15:47<andythenorth>it was nice when walking down the stairs
15:48<andythenorth>I go one way, the laptop tries to go another
15:48<andythenorth>also it vibrated a bit
15:48<andythenorth>and there was always a faint hum
15:48<Samu>i bet seagate
15:48<andythenorth>SSD is so boring by contrast
15:49<@Alberth>I do have a hdd, but it's sitting in my desktop that is standing on the floor and is never moved :)
15:49<MonkeyDrone>well my main OS is on an SSD, i revel in that glory
15:50<Samu>still got 2 maxtors from 2003/2004
15:50<Samu>13 years old, still using
15:50<Alkel_U3>main OS is great, I have it this way, too, but something has to hold the data :-)
15:51<MonkeyDrone>anyway to check if the ottd server is windows or linux?
15:51<Samu>not like i had another option
15:51<Samu>the main seagate hdd died
15:51<MonkeyDrone>ouch Samu
15:51<MonkeyDrone>my last hdd died, lost 2TB of stuff
15:51<MonkeyDrone>need to setup RAID 5 one of these years
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15:52<Samu>i opened it up to see what happened
15:52<Alkel_U3>aaand that's when I learnt to backup
15:52<Alkel_U3>did you? :P
15:52<Samu>the disks had sealing glue on the platters
15:52<Samu>part of the seal stuff fell appart into the platter :(
15:52<Samu>and melted i guess
15:53*andythenorth doesn’t have 2TB of data :P
15:54*NGC3982 can solve that pretty quickly.
15:55<@Alberth>V can help you there, he's an expert in big files :p
15:57<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: i did, i now pay for google storage online, everything is backed up there :P
15:57<MonkeyDrone>Alkel_U3: soon i'll be uploading another 80Gigs to Google's N-line storage.
15:57<MonkeyDrone>should cost me around $2 USD per month
15:58<@Alberth>the NSA thanks you
16:00<Alkel_U3>you just have to do it Wally-style
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16:02<Alkel_U3>something like
16:02<MonkeyDrone>Alberth: it's all encrypted :)
16:03<MonkeyDrone>the NSA can suck a bag of MnMs
16:03<MonkeyDrone>lol brilliant Alkel_U3
16:06<andythenorth>these mine structures are huge
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16:06<andythenorth>they dwarf the train, and that’s not small
16:09<@Alberth>doesn't fit in openttd scale :p
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16:10<@Alberth>one heap would be like 64 tiles square or so :)
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17:34<Samu>there's something very wrong with wmdot
17:35<Samu>when he duplicates ships, he uses a depot that is almost on the other side of the map
17:40<sim-al2>Yeah, I've seen some strange boat-related stuff from WMDot
17:40<sim-al2>Also, it doesn't really understand how rivers work
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23:04<MonkeyDrone>Good morning folks o/
23:27<ElleKitty>*hops onto MonkeyDrone*
23:30*MonkeyDrone crushes to death. Too early in the morningggggggg xD
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23:35<MonkeyDrone>didn't you sleep yet ElleKitty?
23:36<ElleKitty>I didnt. I'm very sleepy -_-
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23:36<ElleKitty>But this coal mine wont dig itself up
23:37<MonkeyDrone>lol, let it goooooooooo
23:53<MonkeyDrone>so hungryyyyyyyy
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