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---Logopened Tue Aug 09 00:00:40 2016
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01:53<V453000>iz frog?
01:53<Supercheese>kroak
01:59<V453000>tbh I had no idea what is the word for "frog sounds" in english up to today :D
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02:01<Supercheese>apparently "ribbit"
02:02<Supercheese>although whoever came up with that was nuts
02:04<V453000>XD
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02:10<@Alberth>o/
02:12<V453000>iz frog?
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02:56<@Alberth>too early for frogs
02:58*V453000 points to the BRIX thread
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03:03<@Alberth>ha! great gift V! :D
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04:52<MonkeyDrone>sprite_cache_size_px = 512 is max?
04:58<@Alberth>that's what misc_settings.ini says
05:04<V453000>:>
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05:35<MonkeyDrone>Alberth: no such file exists here
05:39<@Alberth>trunk/src/table/misc_settings.ini doesn't exist?
05:40<@Alberth>or with a shell: find src -name misc_settings.ini -print :)
05:42<MonkeyDrone>Alberth: oh, sorry, i was lagging on the client-side on my server cause huge cities. Read someone said to increase the cache size to help improve the zoom-out lag.
05:42<MonkeyDrone>thank you Alberth, I sitll have not started looking at the code :D
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05:48<@Alberth>:) and o/
05:51<V453000>\o
05:55<Samu>https://www.facebook.com/CBF/videos/10154234935192640 - keks
05:58<Samu>i suspect trans will bankrupt
05:59<Samu>£494k
05:59<Samu>with over 1000 lost ships
05:59<Samu>negative profit of -£200k a quarter
06:00<Samu>in a year, maybe less, it bankrupts t.t
06:03<@Alberth>how nice :p
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06:37<Wolf01>o/
07:04<@Alberth>o/
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08:13<Wolf01>I need to find something satisfying to do, right now
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08:29<@Alberth>build lego
08:37<Wolf01>No, no fantasy this period :/
08:49<Wolf01>I should restart writing the book with the story for my upcoming point and click game... maybe I'll be able to finish it in the next 10 years
08:52<MonkeyDrone>should i be worried that my laptop's maximum brightness is no longer 'bright'
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09:08<Flygon>MonkeyDrone: Get new flourescent tubes
09:09<MonkeyDrone>damn, didn't even know you could do that. thanks Flygon
09:09<Flygon>Uhm
09:09<Flygon>To make it clear
09:09<Flygon>THIS IS NOT EASY
09:09<Flygon>It's easier to just replace the entire LCD panel
09:09<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, i was about to say that
09:09<Eddi|zuHause>just replace the whole display
09:10<MonkeyDrone>Flygon: well if the replacement parts are resonably priced, i don't mind experimenting, i have to replace this laptop soon anyway
09:10<Wolf01>It's even worse if you try to install fluorescent tubes when your LCD is LED
09:10<Flygon>Hm
09:10<Flygon>That's the thing
09:10<Flygon>A new LCD panel is probably cheaper than tubes designed for your panel
09:10<Flygon>And Wolf01 has a point, hahaha
09:11<Flygon>Especially if it's an OLED :D
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09:11<Eddi|zuHause>an LED panel is unlikely to drop in brightness that quickly, i suppose
09:11<Flygon>But, yeah. Seriously, getting a new panel outright is prolly cheaper and easier.
09:11<Flygon>And depending on the laptop's age and popularity
09:11<Flygon>It may even be cheaper than manufacturing price
09:12<Flygon>But that's a very particular economic sweet spot
09:12<Flygon>Of course, even then
09:12<Flygon>Depending on the laptop model
09:12<Flygon>You might get away with a non-spec LCD...
09:12<MonkeyDrone>it's lcd
09:13<Flygon>I've heard of 4:3 Thinkpads getting their 1024*768 monitors replaced with 2560*1920 ones of the same dimensions
09:13<Flygon>And actually working
09:13<MonkeyDrone>let's check amazon ;p
09:13<Flygon>Anyway, uhm
09:13<MonkeyDrone>Flygon: that would be brilliant
09:13<Flygon>I'll let the others here handle this from here-on in
09:13<Flygon>They got more experience
09:13<Flygon>I just know the theory
09:13<MonkeyDrone>heh, it's cool Flygon, replacing whole unit would be cheaper
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10:03<NGC3982>I guess this is the official channel for Factorio these days.
10:03<NGC3982>\o/
10:03<MonkeyDrone>NGC3982: don't know what you are high on but I would like to take a whiff of that too
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10:15<Wolf01>MonkeyDrone, he's right
10:15<MonkeyDrone>Wolf01: how so?
10:18<@Alberth>just walk in here while people are playing factorio
10:22<Flygon>It's still a better situation than TCRF's official IRC somehow turning into #australiantv for 8 hours of the day
10:22<Flygon>As it turns out
10:23<Flygon>Australian TV channels are streamed online in .m3u8 form
10:23<Flygon>And lots of people have Getflix...
10:23<Flygon>So we ended up watching TV together :|
10:23<Flygon>Like teenagers on phones from the 90s
10:25<Wolf01>I did it so many times with IRC
10:25<@peter1138>m3u8 is just a playlist file...
10:26<Wolf01>It's fun to comment TV programs with friends :P
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11:05<Samu>trans is about to bankrupt, negative money in bank
11:06<Samu>1140 lost ships
11:06<Samu>in the same route
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11:43<Eddi|zuHause>peter1138: is that like an executable in .lnk format?
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12:32<Samu>hmm providing a replay for trans isn't possible :( but i wanted to
12:32<Samu>it takes too long to save
12:33<Samu>wanted to show 1140 lost ships to the author lol :o
12:34<Samu>hmm maybe it is possible, if my spectator instance saves instead
12:35<Samu>let me try
12:35<Samu>wow, why didn't i think of it earlier
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12:54<frosch123>hoi
13:04<V453000>quak
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13:08<frosch123>he, a frog statue .p
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13:10<frosch123>i recall considering buying the custom-object tier in pikkas fundraiser
13:10<V453000>:)
13:10<@Alberth>quak, very nice gift :)
13:10<V453000>XD
13:10<frosch123>got it cheaper now :p
13:10<V453000>you got it for free plus a lot of your work over the years :P
13:10<V453000>foundations are fixed and pushed now
13:11<frosch123>yeah, they work well for the "stacked foundations"
13:11<V453000>x1 that is
13:11<frosch123>they do not have these weird lines between them, which the regular ones have
13:11<V453000>the x4 was fixed last night already
13:11<V453000>yeah I think they turned out pretty nice
13:14<@Alberth>one step closer to vertical walls :p
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13:31<andythenorth>we need daylength
13:34<Eddi|zuHause>so, i recently played civ4 again, and the same thing happened that always happens... i focus too much on building up my cities and getting some wonders, that the moment the first person declares war on me, i get overrun completely...
13:35<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: you are not a paranoid person
13:35<andythenorth>afaict
13:35<andythenorth>not helpful in a game like that :)
13:36<Eddi|zuHause>i still dislike that in marathon mode the units take longer to build
13:36<Eddi|zuHause>build time increase should only be for buildings, so you can have epicly huge armies
13:36<Eddi|zuHause>also, you can get reinforcements easier
13:38<Eddi|zuHause>now, i could roll back the game 20 turns and try to cancel the wonders and build an army..
13:39<Eddi|zuHause>or start a new game where i'm alone on an island
13:39<Eddi|zuHause>or something
13:46<@Alberth>first build army and conqueror world, then bring peace and nice cities :p
13:52<frosch123>the civ version i played were always: the easier the start, the harder later on
13:52<frosch123>the toughest survives, and the toughest is defines by training
13:53<frosch123>if you are alone on an island, you probably lose
13:53<Eddi|zuHause>yes
13:53<frosch123>if you are with 5 on an island, you probably lose early, or win everything
13:53<Eddi|zuHause>especially, if you're alone the others will trade tech with each other and get ahead
13:54<frosch123>same in moo2 actually :)
13:54<frosch123>if there are creative and weak spies in some corner, you are in trouble
13:54<frosch123>the creatives research everything, the spies steal everything, and the others conquer the spies
13:55<frosch123>because noone likes the spies
13:55<Eddi|zuHause>i usually play uncreative with some spy efficience
13:56<Eddi|zuHause>also, unification
13:56<frosch123>i never played uncreative, isn't it pretty much luck with the important techs on the first tiers?
13:57<Eddi|zuHause>doesn't really matter that much, imho
13:57<Eddi|zuHause>of the really important techs, you generally have an impossible choice anyway
13:58<Eddi|zuHause>and you can go spying for those rather quickly
13:58<MonkeyDrone>god damn my ottd crashes a lot x.x
13:59<MonkeyDrone>where do i spam the crash logs? :P
13:59<Eddi|zuHause>bugs.openttd.org
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14:08<supermop>Eddi|zuHause: in civ 4 i found that the only way i could reliably win one of the non-boring wins was to conquer the world in antiquity
14:09<supermop>but then you miss out on all the neat unit upgrades
14:09<MonkeyDrone>cheers
14:09<MonkeyDrone>get rekt V453000 http://i.imgur.com/tF3X9ky.png
14:09<Eddi|zuHause>i usually aim for a cultural win, especially if i manage to get the sistine chapel
14:09<V453000>MonkeyDrone: ?
14:09<supermop>me too,
14:09<MonkeyDrone>ah nothing, that bridge looks so bad, RAWR didn't have bridges?
14:10<supermop>you cant easily conquer earth with modern armor in the 1990s like in civ 3
14:10<V453000>yes, that is an opengfx bridge
14:10<V453000>RAWR doesn't have bridges, BRIX does
14:10<Eddi|zuHause>i once got a religious victory, by giving one of the last enemies, who was a theocracy, a city with my religion. then the victory vote came up, and since they had barely any votes i could just win
14:10<MonkeyDrone>V453000: sweeet, can't wait <3
14:10<V453000>you can :P
14:11<supermop>after many plays through i got tired of winning with UN or space ship
14:11<Eddi|zuHause>supermop: i can usually overrun anyone by the time i get mobile infantry
14:11<Eddi|zuHause>but that is really tedious
14:11<supermop>but i always dislike warring
14:12<supermop>but the unit xp made it sort of fun, but then i spent too long trying to optimized unit upgrades
14:12<Eddi|zuHause>there was a game where the only fighting units the guy had were generals
14:13<supermop>better to get elephants or something asap and get your continent or hemisphere locked down soon
14:13<Eddi|zuHause>and then there was a game where the guy didn't have any fighting units at all beyond the starting warrior
14:13<supermop>were the free city-states in ci4 or 5?
14:13<Eddi|zuHause>that was civ5
14:14<supermop>i kind of wish they could get a little stronger
14:14<supermop>what about vassal states?
14:14<supermop>4?
14:14<Eddi|zuHause>vassal states existed in civ4
14:14<Eddi|zuHause>but i never quite got the point of those
14:14<supermop>yeah
14:17<supermop>once in architecture school studio i had a long running civ 4 game going on with a grad student studio next to us
14:17<supermop>but eventually it got unworkable you'd be waiting all day for a guy who was in the wood shop to do his turn
14:19<supermop>also i would always rush to get all of the religions
14:19<Eddi|zuHause>that's what always was weird to me, you either get all the religions or none of them
14:20<Eddi|zuHause>i just always went advanced start and gave me the first religion tech, then i did not bother with the rest
14:23<supermop>i mean irl a few countries have most adherents locked down
14:23<supermop>India has a pretty broad batch
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>uhm, maybe, but there's no real reason why it would be tied to tech then
14:25<supermop>I am sure ancient India had a science department furiously researching - "come on guys we have to invent Buddhism before China does!"
14:27<supermop>also the idea of 'researching' polytheism is sort of funny
14:38<supermop>wedding photos came back
14:39<Samu>http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/698259/Rio-2016-olympics-north-South-Korea-gymnast-selfie - :o
14:39<supermop>i should just hire a photographer to follow me around on vacations to take photos for me
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14:41<NGC3982>That's cool.
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14:55<Samu_>how does the bankrupt warnings work?
14:56<Samu_>trans is at -£1M and still not out
14:57<Samu_>he's been selling ships but it's still negative
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15:02<supermop>i am constantly surprised every time i hear that Kissinger is still alive
15:02<andythenorth>me too
15:05<supermop>he never struck me as being abnormally healthy
15:05<supermop>he already looks old in pictures from the 60s
15:05<supermop>and looks more or less the same now as in the 70s
15:06<andythenorth>maybe he has a picture in an attic
15:06<andythenorth>aging
15:06<Eddi|zuHause>i think that was a movie :p
15:06<Eddi|zuHause>(or a book)
15:41<MonkeyDrone>50 bucks we never see the N.Korea olympic athele ever again after that selfie
15:43<Eddi|zuHause>do i want to care?
15:49<MonkeyDrone>well it's 50 bucks, do you like to earn 50 bucks?
15:50<Eddi|zuHause>no.
15:50<Eddi|zuHause>money is a terrible nuisance
15:51<MonkeyDrone>haha
15:52<MonkeyDrone>ah well anyways, i'm off to bed
15:52<MonkeyDrone>goodnight folks
15:53<supermop>Eddi|zuHause: can i have 50 bucks
15:53<Eddi|zuHause>sure, make a bet with MonkeyDrone
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16:47<Samu_>it finally bankrupted!
16:47<Samu_>rip trans
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16:51<Samu_>nonocab npf ships reached 2051
16:51<Samu_>only 1 game remains and I am finally done with ships!
16:51<Samu_>horray!!!
16:52<Samu_>never really expected it would be too slow
16:58<Wolf01>Nice, got a steam serial for a desura game
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18:34<Samu_>2023
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19:00<Wolf01>'night
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