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00:04<lamehusband>can someone tell me where is the file opntitle.dat is generated?
00:04<lamehusband>I wanted to re-compile openttd and I want to change optitle.dat .. like how
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00:27<lamehusband>anyone see this?
00:30<Sylf>What are you exactly trying to do with opntitle.dat?
00:31<Sylf>oh hm
00:31<Sylf>you don't need to do anything
00:32<Sylf>you can replace it at any point without recompiling anything
00:32<Sylf>it's just a .sav file, renamed to opntitle.dat and placed at the right place
00:41<lamehusband>well like if I wanted to customoze it
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05:46<Wolf01>o/
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09:12<Samu>hi
09:12<Samu>my system crashed a while ago while I was testing 8 AIs... t.t
09:13<Samu>i'm afraid I can't keep on testing Ais for 100 years
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11:01<@Alberth>hi hi
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11:06<@Alberth>hola
11:13<frosch123>moi
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11:28<Wolf01>o/ quak
11:28<goodger>hoi
11:30<supermop__>YO
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12:54<Wolf01>Anybody could help me with a little vector2 and rotation matrix problem? I need to create an object on the correct side of a square and I can't even figure it :P
12:57<Wolf01>I did this: Vector2 p = Vector2.Add(_center, Vector2.TransformNormal(new Vector2(32), Matrix.CreateRotationZ(_direction)));
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13:15<@Alberth>rotationZ sounds like 3d?
13:17<Wolf01>I'm on 2d, but it rotates along z axis
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13:23<Wolf01>Ok, it was right, the vector should have been "Vector2(32, 0)"
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13:41<@Alberth>and it didn't complain? :o
13:43<Wolf01>No, why should it?
13:53<@Alberth>missing parameter :)
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14:18<Wolf01>Ahah, no, just overloaded constructor, some other classes have even 16 different constructors
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14:35<argoneus>good evening train friends
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14:40<@Alberth>o/
14:40<Wolf01>o/
14:41<andythenorth>hola
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14:58<andythenorth>tramz!
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15:15<andythenorth>just 8 trams left to draw
15:15<@Alberth>electric catenary for steam tramz :)
15:15<goodger>\o/
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15:15<@Alberth>I disabled drawing of catenary to fix it :p
15:16<andythenorth>Alberth: have you heard, there’s a patch for it? o_O
15:16<@Alberth>yes, looks like a valid use case :)
15:17<@Alberth>also, narrow gauge haz a bit of a problem climbing tiles, but nothing that cannot be solved with moar steam enginez
15:19<andythenorth>screenshot? o_O :)
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15:23<@Alberth>http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/hill_up.png
15:25<andythenorth>sometimes I end up with 3 or 4 engines
15:25<@Alberth>long wood tram line :) http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/EindkerkTransport,1881-10-20.png
15:25<andythenorth>with 5 or 6 tile trains
15:25<andythenorth>:o long for tramz
15:26<andythenorth>no diagonals :D
15:26<@Alberth>as production rises, I guess I'll need to switch to a proper train at some point :)
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15:29<andythenorth>more tramz
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15:31<Supercheese>and suddenly, trams, hundreds of them
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15:37<Wolf01>https://github.com/xanathar/FSMsharp :o state machine
15:40<@Alberth>bit simplistic :)
15:42<@Alberth>for me, the main feature is to conditionally jump to other states, in particular be able to select between multiple jumps
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15:44<@Alberth>you'd want co-routines for this kind of state machines :)
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15:55<andythenorth>4/8 tram is hard to make look good
15:55<andythenorth>very short in / \ views :P
15:57<@Alberth>:)
15:58<@Alberth>narrow gauge wagons are also very short, you need loads before you get some length :)
16:01<andythenorth>yup
16:02<andythenorth>it’s quite pleasingly balanced against ‘normal’ rail
16:02<andythenorth>without any real effort put into it :)
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16:18<@Alberth>I find it difficult see the differences between both track types, I had a number of cases where I tried linking the wrong kind of track together :)
16:19<andythenorth>should narrow gauge be smaller?
16:20<@Alberth>not sure, maybe I am just getting old :p
16:20<andythenorth>you’re not the only one :P
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16:31<andythenorth>Alberth: they do look quite similar to me
16:31<andythenorth>maybe I should redraw NG a bit
16:32<@Alberth>in the up_hill screenshot, there is normal track right next to it
16:33<andythenorth>also the tracks are wider than the trains
16:33<@Alberth>normally, you are just trying to make a connection, and different track types is not the primary concern, until they don't fit :)
16:35<andythenorth>hmm termite doesn’t build for me
16:35*andythenorth must fix that
16:37<andythenorth>https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pkigihcvy/wlqoof/raw
16:37<andythenorth>not sure how to start debugging that :P
16:37<@Alberth>looks like a Makefile problem
16:38<andythenorth>yes :)
16:38<@Alberth>_V=1 make ?
16:38<@Alberth>there was a variable for switching to verbose mode
16:39*andythenorth tries changing the value
16:40<andythenorth>hmm there’s a python 2.7 script being called
16:42<@Alberth>python -c "from datetime import date; print (date($REPO_DATE)-date(2000,1,1)).days" ?
16:42<andythenorth>very likely
16:43<@Alberth>findversion.sh line 97
16:43<andythenorth>needs a python 3 port then
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16:44<@Alberth>BB has it too
16:44<@Alberth>could check tomorrow morning
16:45*andythenorth tried the BB one
16:46<@Alberth>maybe the problem is earlier, in $REPO_DATE
16:46<andythenorth> VERSION=`python -c "from datetime import date; print (date($REPO_DATE)-date(2000,1,1)).days"`
16:46*andythenorth added parentheses for the print
16:46<@Alberth>the line above is different
16:46<andythenorth>seems to work now
16:47<@Alberth>ah, print() good point
16:47<andythenorth>thanks for finding the line :)
16:48<@Alberth>good night
16:48<andythenorth>bye
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19:36<Wolf01>'night
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