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| 10:26 | <@Alberth> | moin |
| 10:28 | <crem> | moo/ |
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| 10:42 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
| 10:48 | <supermop> | yo |
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| 13:17 | <@Alberth> | qual |
| 13:17 | <@Alberth> | *quak |
| 13:18 | <frosch123> | hoi |
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| 14:01 | <andythenorth> | o/ |
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| 14:01 | <Wolf01> | o/, quak, meow |
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| 14:05 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
| 14:06 | <frosch123> | anyone still uses autoreplace? |
| 14:06 | <frosch123> | anyone using autoreplace with multiple railtypes? |
| 14:06 | <@Alberth> | if the need arises |
| 14:06 | <andythenorth> | autoreplace or autorenew? o_O |
| 14:07 | <@Alberth> | usually NUTS trains or so |
| 14:07 | <frosch123> | replace |
| 14:07 | <andythenorth> | I use replace every game, unless I get bored before new vehicles arrive |
| 14:07 | <andythenorth> | I am always amazed how much it does |
| 14:07 | <andythenorth> | it has some really thoughtful aspects |
| 14:07 | <@Alberth> | needs new engine every year :p |
| 14:08 | <andythenorth> | frosch123: what’s the underlying question? o_O |
| 14:08 | <@Alberth> | random guess: NRT breaks stuff :p |
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| 14:10 | <andythenorth> | I use it with multiple railtypes |
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| 14:15 | <frosch123> | https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui.png <- i suggest to change the windowlayou to something like that |
| 14:15 | <frosch123> | adding an option "all types" to the railtype dropdown |
| 14:16 | <frosch123> | and turning the wagon button into a combobox "engines", "wagon", "both" |
| 14:16 | <frosch123> | then use a similar gui (but without the wagon thingie) for nrt |
| 14:17 | <andythenorth> | what problem have you run into that needs a change? :) |
| 14:17 | <frosch123> | the separation by rail/road type seems very weird to me |
| 14:18 | <frosch123> | i think a filter is ok, but it needs an "all" option |
| 14:18 | <frosch123> | and while changing that, i think the boxes make more sense at the top |
| 14:22 | <frosch123> | the separation made sense when there was rail, mono and maglev |
| 14:23 | <frosch123> | but already with elrail it appeared weird, if i remember correctly |
| 14:23 | <frosch123> | with various rail compatibilities it is even more pointless |
| 14:28 | <andythenorth> | I find the UI weird for the railtypes |
| 14:28 | <andythenorth> | I always forget how to use that part |
| 14:28 | <andythenorth> | I tend to click engine/wagon a few times until I remember what to do |
| 14:28 | <supermop> | yeah |
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| 14:36 | <andythenorth> | with elrail it’s definitely weird |
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| 14:45 | <frosch123> | https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui2.png <- placing them horizontally looks better |
| 14:45 | <frosch123> | what text to put into the left box for all railtypes? |
| 14:45 | <frosch123> | currently it says "rail vehicles", "electrified rail vehicles" and "narrow gauge trains" |
| 14:46 | <andythenorth> | does the railtype specify it? |
| 14:46 | <frosch123> | should i add "all vehicles"? or is that weird together with "engines" and "wagons"? |
| 14:46 | <frosch123> | andythenorth: yes |
| 14:46 | <andythenorth> | ‘Any type’ ? |
| 14:46 | <andythenorth> | Any railtype? |
| 14:46 | <frosch123> | well, the other talk about the vehicles |
| 14:46 | <frosch123> | "any rail vehicles"? |
| 14:47 | <andythenorth> | PIPE adds ‘Pipeline Pumps’ iirc |
| 14:47 | <andythenorth> | :) |
| 14:47 | <frosch123> | also "any" or "all"? :p |
| 14:47 | <andythenorth> | perenial question of filter designers :P |
| 14:47 | <andythenorth> | it likely doesn’t matter, just be consistent with rest of game? |
| 14:48 | <andythenorth> | ‘All’ is probably better here |
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| 14:54 | <supermop> | coke oven a little messed up |
| 14:54 | <supermop> | got pipes off the lot |
| 15:00 | <andythenorth> | I should draw that industry eh :) |
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| 15:03 | <frosch123> | https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui3.png https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p1mdw196x?/p1mdw196x <- i like that behaviour |
| 15:04 | <frosch123> | showing all railtypes by default is way more intuitive than selecting some "most used" one |
| 15:09 | <@Alberth> | nice |
| 15:09 | <andythenorth> | +1 |
| 15:10 | <@Alberth> | aren't there squirrel widgets that need to be changed too? |
| 15:10 | <frosch123> | yes, i excluded that from the diff |
| 15:10 | <frosch123> | i also excluded removing strings from all translations :) |
| 15:11 | <@Alberth> | ///< Type of rail tracks selected. INVALID_RAILTYPE to show all. <-- that needs a '#' in front of the literal |
| 15:13 | <@Alberth> | if (this->sel_railtype != INVALID_RAILTYPE && rvi->railtype != this->sel_railtype) return false; <-- correct, but bit complicated way of saying if (this->sel_railtype == INVALID_RAILTYPE) return true; |
| 15:14 | <@Alberth> | looks fine otherwise, to me |
| 15:15 | <frosch123> | how weird, the railtype is only used for engines, not for wagons? |
| 15:15 | <@Alberth> | you need shunting before you worry about that :p |
| 15:16 | <frosch123> | there are different wagons for narrrow gauge |
| 15:16 | <@Alberth> | and maybe not even that, any engine that can bring a wagon somewhere is by definition compatible with the tracks |
| 15:17 | <andythenorth> | looked like railtype support had been crowbarred in |
| 15:17 | <@Alberth> | you always do the minimum work to make a feature |
| 15:17 | <frosch123> | i removed that check |
| 15:18 | <frosch123> | filtering wagons by railtype is just like filtering engines |
| 15:18 | <frosch123> | the list is empty for electrified wagons |
| 15:18 | <goodger> | hooray! |
| 15:18 | <frosch123> | but you can always select "all railtypes" |
| 15:18 | <goodger> | this means I will no longer have to choose between Electrified Railway and Modern High-Speed Railway (Electrified)? |
| 15:19 | <frosch123> | andythenorth: i switched to playing short games before railtypes were added :) |
| 15:19 | <andythenorth> | :) |
| 15:21 | <@DorpsGek> | Commit by frosch :: r27683 /trunk/src (62 files in 5 dirs) (2016-12-08 21:21:39 +0100 ) |
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| 15:21 | <@DorpsGek> | -Change: Rearrange the autoreplace GUI for trains, and do not filter it by railtype by default. |
| 15:30 | <andythenorth> | win |
| 15:30 | <andythenorth> | who says OpenTTD is dying? :D |
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| 15:32 | <frosch123> | i think over the weekend it is time to add roadtypes to vehicles |
| 15:32 | <frosch123> | all the construction stuff is done |
| 15:32 | <frosch123> | after the vehicles, there is only the horrible roadtype introduction and compatibility :p |
| 15:33 | <andythenorth> | nice :) |
| 15:33 | <andythenorth> | then I have to make some real grfs :P |
| 15:34 | * | andythenorth currently trying to automate most of the FIRS industry window extra text |
| 15:34 | <andythenorth> | world of substrings |
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| 15:47 | <andythenorth> | ha this is going to make loads of mess |
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| 15:47 | <@Alberth> | :D |
| 15:47 | <andythenorth> | but it will save a lot of pointless translation effort |
| 15:47 | <andythenorth> | and minor text bugs |
| 15:47 | <Wolf01> | Good |
| 15:47 | <@Alberth> | ah, making string changes in firs |
| 15:47 | <@Alberth> | +1 |
| 15:48 | <andythenorth> | not sure how I’ll get the cargo units |
| 15:48 | <andythenorth> | but eh, ploughing on |
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| 17:02 | <__ln__> | John Glenn 1921-2016 |
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| 17:56 | <supermop> | what |
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| 18:23 | <supermop> | they just renamed the airport in my home town after him |
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| 19:51 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
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