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06:13<Wolf01>o/
06:19<Lejving>\o
06:20<Wolf01>https://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Strip-Ne-pas-jeter650-finalenglish2.jpg this is very true
06:21<Wolf01>Also \o/ finally today the java installer was able to download the update
06:21<Lejving>I don't get it
06:21<Lejving>I still use cs2
06:22<Wolf01>I still use 6.0 because it's the only version I got
06:24<Wolf01>And it isn't even the "full" version, it's like the elements
06:24<Lejving>hehe
06:25<Lejving>I just "grew up" with cs2
06:25<Lejving>and it's fast
06:25<Lejving>and I haven't needed anything else so far
06:25<Lejving>If there's a function I need that is in anything newer I'll update but now I don't see any use for it
06:25<Eddi|zuHause>i still have a manual on MS DOS 5
06:31<Wolf01>I still have even the box of that
06:33<V453000>._.
06:34<Wolf01>I should really throw away most of my old stuff
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06:46<V453000>for my shit CS6+ is critically important simply because it can link files from the disk as layers
06:47<V453000>so if I have renders imported, I can just update them instead of manually re-importing
06:47<V453000>but for anyone who doesn't need that, there hasn't been much new indeed
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08:03<Wolf01>https://www.cheatography.com/mikesac/cheat-sheets/base-git/ uhm, I should keep this where I can find it
08:07*peter1138 ponders playing with OpenBVE again
08:07<Wolf01>:o
08:08<Wolf01>Is it better than trainz/train simulator? (I don't mean the graphics)
08:09<@peter1138>not played that
08:09<@peter1138>you have to ackowledge AWS and such like, instead of just speeding up & slowing down
08:09<crem>The best train simulator for me is "zdsimulator"
08:10<Wolf01>You could do that in TS too, but not with all engines
08:10<crem>It has mostly russian trains and tracks though.
08:10<@peter1138>my gripe with *bve was many of the tracks used billboard textures instead of models, so although it was 3D, using a non-pov camera looks shitty
08:11<@peter1138>crem, looks ok
08:13<crem>Also free demo is quite functional, for ones who wants to try out. (I think there are no saves, and "no electricity on electified tracks" so electric locomotives don't work)
08:14<Wolf01>I can't understand why a lot of games use %APPDATA% instead of "%USERPROFILE%\My Games"
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08:16<crem>There was no %userprofile% on non-NT based windows, I think. So just a leftover from windows95 era
08:17<Wolf01>Yes ok, but 17 years after somebody is still too lazy to fix that
08:20<Wolf01>Even Minecraft had to wait for the new launcher to let the user change the folder where worlds are stored, and by default it still is %APPDATA%\Roaming\.minecraft
08:21<Wolf01>And roaming is pointless, too big for roaming
08:21<Wolf01>Can't sync it with your account on a different pc
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10:00<@peter1138>on the other hand
10:00<@peter1138>my lego order has turned up at home
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10:28<Evert_>hey guys, I'm trying to make an account at account.openttd.org but it doesn't send a verification email. When I press 'resend validation code' and fill in my username, it says 'Account doesn't have any validation pending.' Am I missing something?
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14:27<frosch123>__ln__: https://www.welt.de/print-welt/article635670/Russlands-Sehnsucht-nach-Alaska.html
14:31<__ln__>danke
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14:40<Evert_>I was trying to make an account at account.openttd.org but it doesn't send a verification email. When I press 'resend validation code' and fill in my username, it says 'Account doesn't have any validation pending.' Am I missing something?
14:42<frosch123>maybe try the recover password site
14:44<Evert_>on the recover site it says "Unknown username / email combination."
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14:46<frosch123>there is already a user "evert" since 2014
14:46<frosch123>so, use a different user name for registering
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14:49<Evert_>yes, I used another username, but for some reason it just doesn't create an account
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16:29<Eddi|zuHause>why do i just in this moment get a spam timestamped 3 days ago?
16:30<frosch123>spam often has completely random timestamps
16:30<frosch123>no idea why
16:31<Eddi|zuHause>clearly i haven't got enough spam all these years
16:32<frosch123>i believe i once got one that had a date years ago
16:32<frosch123>it confused me because i had the inbox sorted by date, and it said one unread one, and i couldn't see it :)
16:36<Wolf01>I got spam and newsletters too with wrong date, even off by years
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16:41<Eddi|zuHause>i think i need to invest time into setting up a loca spam filter, because the frequency of spam is getting annoying
16:41<Eddi|zuHause>*local
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16:47<Marvinyo>Hi! Does anyone play with ECS? Is there a time "limit" for a production start at the vechiles factory?
16:51<frosch123>Marvinyo: https://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/ECS_Machinery_Vector._Vehicles_Factory#Production
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16:56<Marvinyo>Sry, I meant the date, not the 93 days one. With a NewGRF I'm at 1726 now, and the Factory has 112 steel, 32 glass, 72 dyes, but 0 production. And I thought there is no production for ex. before 1830, or like that.
16:57<frosch123>oh, a horse game :)
16:57<frosch123>no idea about year restrictions
16:58<debdog>would be a bug, wouldn't it?
16:58<debdog>I mean, what'd a vehicles factory do if not producing vehicles?
16:58<debdog>bicycles
16:59<Marvinyo>I donno. Seems reasonable not to product any Vechile in 1700's. :-D
16:59<frosch123>debdog: vehicle is quite a latin word
16:59<frosch123>noone said motorized vehicle
16:59<debdog>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Opel_bicycle5.JPG/800px-Opel_bicycle5.JPG
16:59<debdog>aight
17:00<Marvinyo>debdog: Nice one :-D
17:01<Eddi|zuHause>Marvinyo: maybe you should ask this in the ECS thread in the forum
17:01<frosch123>http://www.imgbox.de/users/Rekord/N.jpg <- opel built all kind of stuff
17:01<frosch123>(that's a pedal driven sewing machine)
17:03<Marvinyo>Eddi|zuHause: Will try, thank you!
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17:08<Wolf01>'night
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17:21<__ln__>is there currently a european country that doesn't attempt to spy on its citizens online, and also isn't in the process of beginning that as soon as legal paperwork is done?
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17:46<Milek7_>__ln__: what do you precisely mean by "attempt to spy on its citizens online"?
17:50<__ln__>monitoring emails, chat messages, phone calls of everyone instead of only crime suspects
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18:11<NGC3982>There is always some ambiguity regarding if they actually are.
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18:24<+glx>__ln__: to prevent terrorism ?
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18:36<__ln__>glx: whatever the real reason is
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