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05:50<Wolf01>o/
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06:34<__ln__>should the news headlines in the games be upgraded for 2017?
06:34<__ln__>i mean, there could be fake news and alternative facts in them.
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06:45<Wolf01>Nice idea
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07:37<andythenorth>supermop: http://mirokurcik.tumblr.com/
07:37<Wolf01>o/
07:38<crem>\o
07:44<@peter1138>http://lh5.ggpht.com/abramsv/SDPouAM92mI/AAAAAAAARiU/5I1NkWmzXcE/s1600-h/002_dom.jpg
07:44<@peter1138>o_O
07:45<andythenorth>good eh
07:46<andythenorth>I’d be wary of that in a strong wind
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08:27<@peter1138>like today
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09:21<Wolf01>andythenorth, you don't have idea of how fun are 12x31054 plus some other parts XD
09:21<andythenorth>o_O
09:21<Wolf01>I'm making locomotives and wagons
09:21<Wolf01>I'm at 6 locomotives and 1 huge pax wagon
09:22<Wolf01>All of them can be split and combined in different ways
09:22<andythenorth>Wolf01: also, noticed the door sticker? o_O https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/658/32274670160_858d5c4e36_b.jpg
09:23<Wolf01>That's made for me :D
09:24<Wolf01>No more suggestions about what is IR-controlled on that beast?
09:25<andythenorth>drive, steer, outriggers, rotation, luffing, winch
09:25<andythenorth>2 gearbox selectors to switch between them
09:25<Wolf01>Nice
09:25<andythenorth>there’s video on EB of it
09:25<andythenorth>showing functions in use
09:27<Wolf01>Btw, I MUST purchase it, no matter the cost, it resembels too much the Mc Leach's truck from Bianca&Bernie, one of my favourite vehicles from when I was a kid
09:28<Wolf01>http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130124183144/disney/images/e/e6/Bushwacker.png
09:29<andythenorth>my kids have decided it’s essential
09:29<andythenorth>but it will be too big, and the functions will be weak :x
09:29<andythenorth>nvm
09:33<supermop__>andythenorth: nice
09:35<supermop__>my tumblr is basically just my wife and then 6 brutalism tumblrs
09:37<supermop__>andythenorth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus#/media/File:Tetley_Bitter_Advert_on_Bradford_Trolleybus_Cropped.jpg
09:38<andythenorth>isn’t it
09:38<andythenorth>bring back pikka
09:38<andythenorth>he probably likes trollybobbuses
09:38<supermop__>not sure they have any down there
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10:05<supermop__>the sloped windshild of 3rd gen ogfx RVs really kinda bugs me
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10:56<@Alberth>hi hi
10:57<supermop__>HI Alberth
11:03<supermop__>no ogfx+rvss use 2nd cc, but seems like they could
11:05<Wolf01>o/
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11:10<Wolf01>andythenorth: http://bricksafe.com/files/Wolf01/MOCs/combinable-mocs/31054-31055-31060-convoy.png
11:12<andythenorth>such trains
11:14<Wolf01>http://zusammengebaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lego-creator-blue-express-train-31054-2017-3-in-1-box-rueckseite-zug.jpg the official ones :P
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11:25<@Alberth>o/
11:26<supermop__>oooh a pikka
11:26<Pikka>whence?
11:27<supermop__>andythenorth: you have magic powers i guess
11:27<andythenorth>I can even DM
11:27<andythenorth>such typing
11:27<andythenorth>lo Pikka
11:27<Pikka>lobob
11:28<andythenorth>is cats?
11:29<andythenorth>also, in fame news, we worked with Mr Weebl https://twitter.com/TheWeebl/status/791224902045040640
11:29<andythenorth>but not Mr. Bob
11:30<andythenorth>fame such
11:30<supermop__>does it bother anyone else that default mail trucks drive around with the door open?
11:30<andythenorth>supermop__: you lived in the UK no?
11:30<andythenorth>default
11:30<supermop__>97-99
11:30<Pikka>there's plenty about the default sprites to be bothered about
11:31<andythenorth>http://www.imcdb.org/i722796.jpg
11:32<Pikka>such mailvans
11:32<supermop__>i just remember these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Royal_Mail_van,_Edinburgh.JPG
11:33<Pikka>mail trucks in OTTD should really be these https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7311/9189280699_1466c02c42.jpg
11:33<supermop__>lightening the roofs so the trolley poles show up
11:33<Pikka>we don't do delivery
11:35<supermop__>i guess ogfx needs to look like ttd ish
11:36<supermop__>which means door stays open
11:36<Pikka>the big open door is the "not a goods truck" marker
11:36<supermop__>i don't have the appetite to touch anything already in the the set, only to add the trolley trucks
11:36<Pikka>notroads is moving along, then?
11:37<supermop__>which are just the regular trucks with pallet shifted roof, poles, and 2cc cab
11:37<supermop__>Pikka: sort of?
11:37<andythenorth>Pikka: is playable
11:37<supermop__>inspired me to make proof of concept things
11:37<andythenorth>https://www.openttd.org/en/download-ratt
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12:01<supermop__>brb
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12:10<supermop_>ok
12:17<supermop_>is there a accepted convention for height of trolleywires?
12:18<Wolf01>Do not interfere with airplanes
12:24<Eddi|zuHause>supermop_: use the same height as for rails?
12:24<supermop_>mostly just hoping my trolley polls don't look dewired
12:24<supermop_>ok i think i have enough sprites to try this now
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13:15<andythenorth>bbls
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13:37<supermop_>double hp for trolley trucks a bit much?
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13:43<supermop_>bigger number for loading speed means slower or faster?
13:44<+glx>faster I think
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13:54<Pikka>it's the cargo transferred per tick, iirc
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13:55<supermop_>i see
13:56<supermop_>well ought to be a bit slower with wires over head - have to be careful your forklift doesn't get energized
13:56<supermop_>reliability decay - higher is worse?
13:58<andythenorth>yes
13:58<andythenorth>https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Properties_common_to_all_vehicle_types
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14:36<andythenorth>quak
14:39<frosch123>hoi
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15:15<Pikka>oh dear
15:15<Pikka>my brother joined the lib dems
15:15<Pikka>not sure I can ever speak to him again
15:16<frosch123>is that a political party?
15:16<Pikka>it is
15:18<V453000>hello gentlemen :)
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15:20<frosch123>no animals anymore?
15:22<V453000>not sure
15:22<V453000>probably just factories
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15:26<andythenorth>lo V453000
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15:42<andythenorth>Pikka: are australian lib dems quite different to uk lib dems? o_O
15:43<Pikka>the australian Liberal Democrats are right-wing nutbags
15:43<Pikka>but it's the UK ones he's joined
15:44<andythenorth>oic :)
15:45<andythenorth>I joined UK labour by accident
15:45<Pikka>it's easily done
15:48<andythenorth>they wouldn’t let me vote Corbyn out
15:49<andythenorth>which was a shame
15:49<andythenorth>as they let lots of people join to vote him in
15:49<andythenorth>but the rules had to be changed apparently
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15:50<Pikka>such is thing
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15:54<andythenorth>V453000: what working on?
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15:55<frosch123>you pick the members of your parties to shift votes for their leaders?
15:56<frosch123>sounds like when there were student protests in berlin 20 years ago, and the students got the idea that they could easily take over one of the established parties in berlin, if they all joined
15:57<Eddi|zuHause>did that work?
15:57<frosch123>well, the party took their time to check the applications :p
15:59<Pikka>the real problem with joining a political party is that you start paying more attention to election campaigns
15:59<Pikka>which makes it very difficult to vote for any of them...
15:59<frosch123>lol, i tried to look up the details, but apparently the idea was tried multiple times in other (non-state) towns
16:01<andythenorth>frosch123: I have considered trying the same thing here :P
16:02<andythenorth>it has actually happened to UK Labour
16:03<Pikka>it's called branch stacking here
16:05<andythenorth>ships I should draw
16:07<Pikka>hmm
16:07<Pikka>notroads means notcanals? ;)
16:10<andythenorth>notyet
16:23<Sacro>Pikka: nowt wrong with the Lib Dems
16:23*Sacro is a paid up LD member
16:23<supermop_>Sacro: liberals in aus =/ to in uk
16:24<Pikka>supermop_, it's the british lib dems that my brother joined
16:24<Pikka>and I was joking :P
16:24<supermop_>was out of office and missed the context
16:25<andythenorth>Pikka: are you still studenting? o_O
16:25<Pikka>yep, start back next week
16:25<andythenorth>what courses now?
16:25<supermop_>i find rather little incentive to actually 'join' a party here, other than voting in primaries in some states
16:25<Sacro>It's your strange upside down Lib Dem party over there
16:26<Pikka>courses now are architecture and communication
16:26<supermop_>i've only ever voted for members of one party here, but i am not a member of that party, nor do i vote for them because of their membership
16:26<supermop_>Pikka: THOSE SOUND A BIT DIVERGENT?
16:26<supermop_>oops
16:28<supermop_>just that within my lifetime, in places i have lived, the members of one only party have ever been the only reasonable choices to vote for
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16:29<Pikka>I don't know if they're divergent, but it's a bit of variety at least.
16:29<supermop_>nice
16:30<Pikka>breaking out the colouring pencils and balsa wood :)
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16:31<supermop_>I prefer polystyrene, but they discourage that these days - neurotoxin cement and all
16:34<supermop_>tropical brutalism?
16:39<Pikka>it's been done
16:42<supermop_>NOT ENOUGH NEED MORE
16:44<Pikka>dragging Brisbane kicking and screaming into the 1970s?
16:45<Pikka>hmmm...
16:46<Pikka>they should have built 1 Willam St as a 50 storey Queenslander with a tin roof.
16:47<andythenorth>you have a wheel in BNE?
16:48<andythenorth>ah that’s the tower of power
16:49<Pikka>Campbell's erection, if you like.
16:49<Pikka>(or even if you don't)
16:50<andythenorth>such
16:51<Eddi|zuHause>is that just me or does nothing said in the past half hour make any sense whatsoever?
16:51<andythenorth>it’s not just you, but the others left :P
16:51<andythenorth>pikka has been talking about the big building in Brisbane where some of my customers reside
16:52<Eddi|zuHause>i know practically nothing about brisbane
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16:53<Supercheese>Brizzbun
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16:53<andythenorth>fact 1) Pikka lives there
16:53<andythenorth>fact 2) no crocodiles
16:53<Pikka>those facts aren't related, btw
16:54<andythenorth>are there are any other facts?
16:54*andythenorth has run out
16:54<Pikka>there's a wheel
16:54<Eddi|zuHause>3) it's not sydney
16:54<andythenorth>4) it’s not Townsville or Rocky
16:54<andythenorth>or Gold Coast
16:54<Eddi|zuHause>4a) i've not heard of any of those places
16:55<Pikka>Townsville is where the Powerpuff Girls are from
16:55<Eddi|zuHause>i'm not sure if i've ever seen an actual episode of that show :p
16:56<supermop_>5) i got to ride the train for free
16:58<Pikka>why's that?
16:59<andythenorth>he’s a crim
17:00<supermop_>terminus nearest straddie ticket machine was broke
17:00<andythenorth>today I read the 1950s UK civil contingency planning for surviving WW3
17:00<supermop_>was going to miss train, fairly late in evening so we just got on without,
17:01<supermop_>andythenorth: those are fun pamphlets
17:01<andythenorth>in which the illustrative example was a relatively small nuke being dropped on North Bristol :P
17:01<andythenorth>it’s always nice when the detailed example is where you live
17:01<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: is that more realistic than the american "duck and cover"?
17:01<andythenorth>it makes the descriptions and death counts so much more relevant
17:02<supermop_>anyway officers got on like 3 stops before we got off, and we tried to explain our situation
17:02<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: it concluded that, taking an optimistic, best case scenario, 28 days after a limited exchange of weapons, everyone would be fucked
17:02<andythenorth>it’s nice to read this stuff every now and then
17:03<supermop_>once they realized we were tourists they just rolled their eyes and walked on
17:03<Wolf01>Politics evening?
17:03<andythenorth>only slightly :)
17:03<Pikka>definitely not
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17:04<Eddi|zuHause>can't be, there was not a single mentioning of trump (err... wait... fuck...)
17:05<Wolf01>At least I had a party... of different kind
17:05<andythenorth>lego party?
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17:06<Wolf01>More "another lap around the sun"
17:24<Wolf01>http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVqqq3v_460s.jpg wetroad?
17:29<andythenorth>bedroad
17:29<andythenorth>bye ;)
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19:07<Wolf01>'nihgt
19:07<Wolf01>or night
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