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02:15<@peter1138>my kettle turns itself off...
02:16<SpComb>electric kettle
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02:21<Eddi|zuHause>magical kettle?
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04:02<Wolf01>Is that a virus?
04:03<Wolf01>I hope to not catch it and become a Wolf453000 zombie too
04:05<Wolf01> yes
04:06<Wolf01>The next year april fool for OTTD needs to be something impressive
04:14<Arveen453000>there was one this year ?
04:15<Wolf01>Remove canals
04:15<Arveen453000>ah ok, seen this on reddit i think
04:15<Wolf01>Still not sure if we won't remove them for real
04:15<Wolf01>The temptation is strong
04:23<Arveen453000>i just use them every now and then to repair rivers i destroyed accidently
04:24<Wolf01>Rivers shouldn't be so easy to destroy
04:26<Arveen453000>yeah i like rivers, thats why always repair or reroute them
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05:04<Wolf01>I can't understand why is it so difficult to generate an hash in c#
05:06<@peter1138>What sort of hash?
05:06<Wolf01>Any.. SHA1, MD5... I need an unique identifier to save if a feed item was read
05:07<Wolf01>Also for cache
05:07<@peter1138>using (var ha = new SHA1Managed()) return ha.ComputeHash(byteArray);
05:07<@peter1138>very hard
05:08<Wolf01>Like if it was referenced
05:09<Wolf01>I only have Windows.Security.Cryptography.Core
05:09<Wolf01>But I can't understand how to use the provider
05:09<@peter1138>System.Security.Cryptography missing?
05:10<crem>Cryptographical primitives are hard to use correctly.
05:10<@peter1138>crem, not really. it's hard to get encryption right because it's more than just algorithm, but hashing is another matter.
05:13<crem>Depends on why the hash is needed. For example both for MD5 and (since recently) SHA1 it's possible to construct a hash collision, so for many uses it's bad.
05:13<crem>When using as a base of HMAC it's still fine though.
05:14<crem>but if using not for cryptographical reasons it's probably fine
05:14<@peter1138>like ottd's use of md5
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05:15<Wolf01>I should use a decorator and get the object hash of the feed model
05:16<Wolf01>I hope it won't change with hidden stuff I can't know
05:20<Wolf01>Hurr durr, interfaces
05:25<Wolf01>No shit Sherlock, I have readonly fields and interfaces don't like those, and UI doesn't like methods
05:27<Wolf01>BTW, peter1138:
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05:33<DanTheUkMan>hey any one about
05:34<@peter1138>i have no idea what uwp is
05:34<Wolf01>Universal Windows Platform
05:34<@peter1138>all my c# is done with mono :)
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05:35<DanTheUkMan>im new
05:35<@peter1138>hello dan
05:35<DanTheUkMan> just downloaded the game
05:36<DanTheUkMan> ik how to play it as i had the orignal chris sawer vertion on win 95
05:36<DanTheUkMan> tbh this looks a lot like it
05:36<crem>It has lots of improvements in details.
05:37<DanTheUkMan> but i wana know if u can sugest and addons and tbh it annoing tht i cant turn the map
05:37<crem>The most important ones are still probably advanced railroad signals.
05:38<DanTheUkMan>i just started an online map if anyone wana join feel free
05:40<crem>btw few years ago I checked multiplayer games and there were tons of them, like around hundred. And this weekend I checked and there was only 1. Is it changed, or I just don't know where to look?
05:40<@peter1138>sorry i'm working now
05:41<DanTheUkMan>lol ikr crem i had tht also i call the game my name
05:41<DanTheUkMan>np peter
05:41<crem>I'm at work now as well, so cannot join.
05:44<DanTheUkMan>i hopein the make add a turn map left or right button make thing a lot easer
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05:46<_dp_>crem, still hundreds:
05:46<_dp_>There are 79 clients, 277 IPv4 servers and 53 IPv6 servers.
05:47<DanTheUkMan>holy cow
05:49<_dp_>crem, oh, I know, did you set "advertised" to "yes" when looking for servers in game?
05:50<DanTheUkMan>dunno tbh never done online befor
05:50<DanTheUkMan>lol im a noob
06:01<@peter1138>map rotation is unlikely to ever happen as it would need more graphics
06:01<@peter1138>but there are loads of transparency options if you can't see stuff
06:02<DanTheUkMan>well ok ye i see tht but why would addin a button need more graghics
06:02<@peter1138>not for button (although it would) but for lots of things on the map
06:04<@peter1138>unless you meant minimap. hmm.
06:07<DanTheUkMan>na for example when i play rollercoaster tycoon i can rotate the map makes things easer but like u said if there transparency tht might help
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06:33<crem>_dp_: I tried both yes and no, and nothing changed. Possibly there is some "refresh" button that I had to press, but there was no obvious one.
06:38<_dp_>crem, no refresh, just advertised:yes then "find server". If it's not working then idk, mb some firewall isuue. Definitely on your side though as there are tons of servers.
06:39<crem>Ok, will try again then in the evening.
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07:41<DanTheUkMan>sorry crem was busy m8
07:42<DanTheUkMan> i will set one up later and try do a private server if u have trouble finin a normal one
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08:56<dihedral>@seen Belugas
08:56<@DorpsGek>dihedral: Belugas was last seen in #openttd 4 days, 16 hours, 37 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Belugas> yeah, a birthday :) a good friend of mine!
08:56<dihedral>and he was never seen since!
08:57<Wolf01>Bots are a special kind of stupid
08:58<dihedral>And I always thought it was TrueBrain who had nothing else to do :-P
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12:24<Wolf01>o/, Quak
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13:14<Wolf01> :D
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13:14<frosch123>90 degree turns
13:17<debdog>nich mal bei lego hält der ICE wegen 'ner Milchkanne
13:17<debdog>oops, wrong language
13:19<@Alberth>lego is universal if you add a picture :p
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14:12<@Alberth>I guess brix is supposed to be used with nuts, eh? :)
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14:20<Wolf01>Ahahah from my lego group, about that video "the wagons in those curves scream for vengeance"
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14:29<Eddi|zuHause>debdog: so what happens if you rebuild Wolfsburg in lego?
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14:48<Wolf01> O_O __ln__, were you nuked like Japan?
14:54<Eddi|zuHause>... we did that in kindergarten
15:07<V453000>is whorse
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15:17<Eddi|zuHause>wide horse?
15:18<@Alberth>short horse might fit better :)
15:20<andythenorth>got horses here
15:20<andythenorth>I mean actual hobby horses
15:20<andythenorth>not iron horses
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16:59<Wolf01>It's so quiet today
17:00*andythenorth was making FIRS
17:01<supermop>more alpine foundries?
17:01<supermop>all mines an forest only build inside cities replacing houses. all bulk terminals must be at max height
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18:29<Wolf01>Not yet
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18:45<@peter1138>My phone fully charged in about 1hr30
18:45<@peter1138>I guess the battery is dying :(
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18:46<Wolf01>My phone always charged fully in that time
18:47<@peter1138>Hmmm, maybe this did, or just depends on the charger.
18:47<@peter1138>And... need to find the cable so I can charge my watch.
18:48<@peter1138>Modern technology ;(
18:50<@peter1138>Hmm, strava adding more and more social features :S
18:55*LordAro wonders which petern is peter1138
18:55<LordAro>i'd guess not the shirtless gentleman
18:58<@peter1138>I'm the one with my face in an EU flag.
18:58<@peter1138>Fucksake :S
19:00*LordAro looks at peter1138's face
19:00<@peter1138>HOW MANY PETERNS ARE THERE s:
19:01<LordAro>quite a few, it turns out
19:05<Wolf01>I would like to stay and read about peter's impostors, but I'm going to bed instead
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19:09<@peter1138> < i'm that one
19:10<LordAro> be me
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19:14<LordAro>*stalks back*
19:17<LordAro>want to do some actual cycling at some point
19:17<LordAro>not for the next couple of months though, too much busy
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19:21<@peter1138>oh dear, my friend's dog is telling me to go to bed
19:22<@peter1138>night night
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22:24<debdog>Eddi|zuHause: they start building tiny VWs? IDK?
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