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#openttd IRC Logs for 2017-04-18

---Logopened Tue Apr 18 00:00:13 2017
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05:38<Wolf01>Miao
05:44<Arveen>Mrow
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07:50<dihedral>hi
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08:48<LordAro>Snail: fix yo connection
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08:54<@peter1138>connection is fine
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08:54<LordAro>hmm, true
08:58<Wolf01>Some wakeup-standby cycle
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09:04<@peter1138>hmm
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09:35<supermop>yo
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09:49<Wolf01>It's epidemic?
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10:05<@Alberth>hi hi
10:05<Wolf01>o/
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10:10<@Alberth>no "Coke" cargo in the global newgrf cargo table yet :O
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10:11<@peter1138>Have we got unlimited cargo types yet?
10:12<@peter1138>(And rail types, obviously)
10:12<@Alberth>one rail type for each cargo :p
10:12<@peter1138>yes
10:12<@peter1138>it's faster because you then don't need pbs
10:12<@peter1138>which is horribly slow
10:13<@Alberth>https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels it seems we only have 26**4 cargo types
10:13<@Alberth>hmm, bit more if you also count _
10:14<@Alberth>26*27**3
10:14<@peter1138>:)
10:15<@Alberth>we could use those identifiers as rail type
10:15<@peter1138>GEAR
10:15<@peter1138>haha
10:15<@Alberth>we then immediately have ELRL and RAIL cargoes!
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13:21<Wolf01>o/
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13:39<@Alberth>o/
13:45<andythenorth>lo
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13:52<Wolf01>Quak
13:53<frosch123>moin
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14:05<andythenorth>station names strike again :P
14:05<andythenorth>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185572#p1185572
14:08<@Alberth>:)
14:08<@Alberth>great, all these logical station names :p
14:08<@Alberth>I was more worried about post of garry, about the coke cargo, it's not at the newgrfspecs page
14:09<@Alberth>should be added I guess, are there others as well?
14:09<andythenorth>probably
14:09<andythenorth>I can’t do it
14:11<@Alberth>I know
14:11<@Alberth>http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html seems the list, is there a table of cargo class stuff too?
14:12<@Alberth>or is that not relevant?
14:12<andythenorth>deliberately omitted ;)
14:12<andythenorth>causes inappropriate behaviour
14:12<@Alberth>looks relevant in the cargo table
14:12<@Alberth>it's in the source code, I guess
14:13<@Alberth>what's easiest, generated nml code?
14:13*andythenorth looking
14:14<andythenorth>possibly generated nml
14:14<andythenorth>or http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/show/src/cargos
14:15<andythenorth>^ more clicks in the src view
14:15<andythenorth>:p
14:15<@Alberth>one editor with lots of opened files :)
14:15<@Alberth>ok, will fix that
14:16<andythenorth>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1179816#p1179816
14:16<andythenorth>and https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185575#p1185575
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14:28<@Alberth>I have seen BOOM https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/CargoTypes#Cargo_Labels so that seems added already
14:29<@Alberth>I'll just compare lists, and see what's different
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14:49<andythenorth>thanks :)
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15:06<@Alberth>ha, "mail" is a class of its own :)
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15:45<@Alberth>andy https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/index.php?title=CargoTypes&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=3757&oldid=3744 if you want all the details :)
15:52<frosch123>luckily there is no table for 4 letter greetings
15:53<frosch123>though numberphile has a video about numbers written with 4 letters
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15:55<@Alberth>:)
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16:07<andythenorth>frosch123: Alberth you were right about the ground tiles :P http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8423/coke_oven_5.png
16:09<frosch123>wasn't it longer yesterday?
16:09<frosch123>5x3?
16:09<andythenorth>yes, I added an alternative layout to be sure I wasn’t drawing something inflexible
16:10<@Alberth>oh, that picture. I saw that this afternoon, and wondered whether the coal stack shouldn't be behind the buildings
16:11<andythenorth>it could be yes
16:11<andythenorth>probably will be in some layouts
16:11<@Alberth>also, one writes QLME with a q :p
16:11<andythenorth>:)
16:11<andythenorth>thanks for the wiki edit
16:12<andythenorth>I have tried registering a new user, but eh
16:12<andythenorth>still won’t log me in
16:12<andythenorth>maybe I’m banned by IP or something
16:13<@Alberth>np
16:13<@Alberth>most annoying part is that you can't automate it :p
16:13<andythenorth>:P
16:14<andythenorth>I guess I should reply to Jacob about station names
16:14<@Alberth>but it happens not that often
16:15<frosch123>andythenorth: ask about new station names :)
16:15<@Alberth>link to a previous reply ? :p not so nice, though
16:17<andythenorth>maybe it should be a parameter
16:17<@Alberth>nn
16:17<andythenorth>bye Alberth :)
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16:17<andythenorth>maybe most of FIRS should be parameterised? o_O
16:18<frosch123>i meant to suggest a parameter, but considered it would scare you :p
16:18<andythenorth>there are a lot of parameter candidates currently
16:18<andythenorth>when they’re strictly orthogonal it’s….ok I guess
16:19*andythenorth counts
16:19<andythenorth>3 is not ‘a lot’ :P
16:21<frosch123>it's not possible to make parameters change other parameters
16:21<frosch123>so you cannot add a parameter to alter the name of the "extreme" economy
16:24<andythenorth>:P
16:24<andythenorth>I guess we should be grateful for that :)
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16:50<andythenorth>station names: literal | associate | openttd defaults
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17:34<supermop>literal?
17:36<Eddi|zuHause>as in "<x> factory", "<x> hotel", ...
17:37<Eddi|zuHause>as opposed to the silly "<x> whatever street"
17:37<Eddi|zuHause>which might make more sense if there was more variation
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17:46<supermop>can we have neither that nor defaults? like town name new grfs?
18:17<Eddi|zuHause>well, the newgrf can provide these names, but only one per industry type
18:26<supermop>i was thinking a newgrf that provides generic names, like for around a town
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