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03:06<andythenorth>peat cargo
03:13<__ln__>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39744805
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05:44<Wolf01>o/
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07:23<Wolf01>V453000, just one thing, would it be possible to craft instantly the items in sandbox and without using any resource?
07:24<V453000>you can enable cheat mode in sandbox, no?
07:24<Wolf01>Oh, that is for
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07:36<@Alberth>hi hi
07:36<Wolf01>o/
07:38<andythenorth>lo Alberth
07:39<@Alberth>so PULP was a false positive?
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07:45<andythenorth>yup
07:46<andythenorth>didn’t really work
07:46<andythenorth>but I’m adding PEAT :P
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08:06<@Alberth>let's wait a while until you decided it works :)
08:11<@Alberth>PULP deleted
08:21<frosch123>was it just fiction?
08:23<Wolf01>V453000, isn't possible yet to make a splitter with circuit control? I must use the old contraption with centrifuges?
08:24<Wolf01>(to separate ores)
08:25<frosch123>did the splitter separation ever work reliably for you?
08:25<Wolf01>With centrifuges yes
08:25<frosch123>i made the experience that they run for a few hours, and then randomly break
08:25<Wolf01>But you must not overload them
08:26<frosch123>yeah, something like that
08:26<frosch123>i.e. if something breaks down and stuff gets stuck, then suddenly everything breaks :)
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08:28<Wolf01>I'm trying contraptions with circuits disabling one output belt while reading the input belt, but it breaks every 3 items
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08:30<Wolf01>The problem is that one wrong item always gets stuck in the splitter
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09:04<V453000>just use inserters for filtering :)
09:13<__ln__>what's this centrifuge talk, are you any chance trying to produce plutonium?
09:13<Wolf01>Yes
09:14<__ln__>ah, ok, carry on then
09:14<Wolf01>BTW, I should start to get the uranium
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09:20<frosch123>__ln__: funnily they don't. for some reason they went u235 only, though u238 would have been way more fun
09:27<Eddi|zuHause>i always forget which one you actually are trying to filter for with centrifuges
09:27<frosch123>u235 is the rare one with the reactors that produce little weapon-usable stuff
09:28<frosch123>u238 is the common one with the highly efficient reactor with lots of byproducts
09:28<frosch123>since u238 is unfashionable to use, it is just used as heavy metal
09:39<Wolf01>https://wiki.factorio.com/Tutorial:Circuit-network_Cookbook#Memory_Cell_.2F_Counter anyone knows a reliable way to reset the counter?
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09:40<Wolf01>I tried with a pulse of -(count) but I got -1.5G then 4G then 250M then -324M etc
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10:53<frosch123>didn't cargos used to have some hint "produced in assembling maching 1/2/3"?
10:58<Wolf01>Strange, I thought the same thing yesterday
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11:45<quiznilo>kk, what is the hotkey for minimap... 'm'
11:46<quiznilo>I have to learn these hotkeys... all of them
11:46<Wolf01>They are almost all the same for every game
11:47<quiznilo>I'm not a gamer
11:47<quiznilo>I play Eve Online and ottd
11:47<quiznilo>and that's it
11:47<Wolf01>Except my games, where I use the numpad and arrows to do stuff like moving the camera
11:48<frosch123>so wolf hates notebook users :p
11:49<Wolf01>No, I'm not ready to control the camera with the mouse yet
11:50<quiznilo>there needs to be a hotkey for 'message history'
11:50<quiznilo>I discovered <del> hotkey by accident... was at a bad time though
11:51<frosch123>quiznilo: check hotkeys.cfg in your ottd folder
11:51<quiznilo>ooo good tip
11:52<Wolf01>Not that a window which shows the configured hotkeys is a waste
11:54<frosch123>quiznilo: https://wiki.openttd.org/Hidden <- i think those are the shortcuts which are not configurable
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12:02<Wolf01>Remove desert in scenario editor Landscape -> Desert tool -> Ctrl + click tile <- so it's possible XD
12:04<frosch123>yep, i once considered adding that function, and discovered that it already existed
12:04<Wolf01>Me too
12:04<Wolf01>(considered to add the function)
12:05<Wolf01>I really think the game needs some UI overhaul to un-hide those features
12:05<Wolf01>Like sub-toolbars
12:06<Wolf01>Or maybe alternative toolbers like the signal toolbar
12:06<Wolf01>Toolbars too
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12:09<Wolf01>So, if I have an address like "foobar@gmail.com", does "foobar@google.com" works too? Because I was sure to have set the wrong domain and I still got the activation email, twice, both from @gmail.com
12:10<Wolf01>s/from/for
12:11<frosch123>just send a mail to it, and check whether it arrives
12:13<frosch123>hmm, what provides blue science?
12:13<frosch123>i selected something for research, but it needs blue science, which i do not have
12:13<frosch123>so what do i need to research instead?
12:15<frosch123>advanced electronics
12:15<frosch123>i clicked on every research :p was there a better method?
12:17<Wolf01>Blue tier researches should not be active until you can actually produce the blue kits (also every other colour)
12:18<Wolf01>Ok, I found something WEIRD on the interwebs...
12:18<Wolf01>https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aOzjyey_460s.jpg
12:19<Wolf01>Totally related to this channel
12:19<frosch123>another slugcat
12:19<frosch123>there was also that other slugcat game, i guess V's minions take over
12:19<frosch123>oh wait, this is a snailcatr
12:20<frosch123>-r
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13:38<quiznilo>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es5FbG8qotw
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27861 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2017-04-29 19:45:37 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>swedish: 49 changes by Joel_A
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14:37<frosch123>haha, so coal liquefacation uses heavy oil to transform coal into even more heavy oil
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15:03<andythenorth>lego are researching bricks from wheat
15:03<andythenorth>naptha can be made from peat
15:04<andythenorth>seems carbon-containing material is quite mutable :P
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15:26<@Alberth>lego production industry :p
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16:16<Alkel_U3>ok, velry low sprite resolution of factorio is pretty ridiculous but seems like I don't have much choice on this old machine :-)
16:32<andythenorth>hmm
16:32<andythenorth>does peat extraction need engineering supplies, or farm supplies? o_O
16:32<andythenorth>forests are farm supplies
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16:45<Eddi|zuHause>i'd say engineering
16:46<Eddi|zuHause>but i know nothing about it
16:46<Eddi|zuHause>maybe farm is more consistent
16:47<Eddi|zuHause>farm for primary, engineering for secondary industries
16:47<Eddi|zuHause>or whatever
16:47<Eddi|zuHause>probably not helpful
16:49<andythenorth>probably engineering
16:49<andythenorth>one doesn’t apply fertiliser and stuff to peatlands
16:50<andythenorth>one just digs it up
16:50<andythenorth>and burns it
16:57<frosch123>"forks" sound like "engineering supplies" :)
16:58<andythenorth>yup
16:59<frosch123>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr_k_fl9lsw <- has various peat pictures
17:02<frosch123>apparently finland has a lot of peat
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17:09<Alkel_U3>I was to a former peat extraction area, there was a lot of heavy machinery rusting all around (mostly vehicles)
17:13<andythenorth>I liked this one http://belkku.galleria.fi/kuvat/Kerhon+kev%C3%A4tretki+turvemuseoon/Syksy+2012,+talvi+2013,+turvemuseo+BGF+194.JPG?img=full
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17:23<Alkel_U3>Ah, I found something from that area https://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/large/2f967e93-bb4d-46d9-ab39-3fded21caff4.jpg
17:24<Alkel_U3>https://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/large/779d0320-b76b-4e4a-b236-9393c77db0e0.jpg
17:26<Alkel_U3>or that one https://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/large/08d1d8d4-9491-4c5b-ac13-03979ad87aae.jpg
17:39<andythenorth>cheers
17:40<andythenorth>useful
17:40*andythenorth bed
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18:30<supermop>how do composited sprites work V453000?
18:30<supermop>do they have like bounding boxes?
18:31<supermop>if cab is separate from truck body, how does it know what order to draw them based of which was truck is driving
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18:56<quiznilo>http://i.imgur.com/GBvvOf1.jpg
18:56<quiznilo>so FIRS
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21:36<quiznilo>speaking of breakdowns, I want to see a horse break down
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