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03:40<Wolf01>o/
03:56<Wolf01>Bah, the netflix app for win10 is really bad integrated, no audio mixer support, fullscreen only with the in -app button...
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03:58<__ln__>Wolf01: just use playstation 3.
03:58<Wolf01>I could use the xbox360 but the fan is loud
04:01<Wolf01>I could give a try with EarTrumpet, but I'm afraid of the "can use all the system resources", which mean really everything
04:06<Wolf01>I'm slowly becoming andy... I shouldn't care to give away my privacy, as I use Win10 I'm already doomed XD
04:11<Wolf01>Also downloading ubuntu 16 iso, one of the pc decided it was the case to TFU while updating :(
04:12<Wolf01>A fresh install should be nice, that system was installed as 10.04
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09:43<Wolf01>o/
09:45<crem>\o
10:02<supermop_>yo
10:09<@Alberth>o/
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11:44<supermop_>damn it just noticed suitpants have a huge grease stain on them
11:44<supermop_>right before i go to interview
11:44<supermop_>this is what i get for wearing grey suit
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14:08<andythenorth>o/
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14:17<andythenorth>auto-signal is just too spooky :)
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14:28<andythenorth>Alberth: o/
14:28<Wolf01>o/
14:28<Wolf01>Quak
14:28<frosch123>hoin
14:31*andythenorth has 50% of an idea for a GS
14:33<frosch123>i had an idea for a wagonset, but it does not work
14:33<andythenorth>o_O
14:33<andythenorth>what was it?
14:33*Wolf01 has 1% of an idea for his life
14:33<frosch123>today i passed the trainstation and saw a tanker wagon with 4 big letters on it
14:34<Wolf01>"FIRS"
14:34<Wolf01>Or better, "ANDY"
14:34<frosch123>so i considered making a newgrf which supports all cargos ever, by printing the cargo label onto the sprite using sprite layers
14:34<andythenorth>COAL
14:34<andythenorth>SCRP
14:34<frosch123>but there is no variable to read the cargo label
14:34<andythenorth>that’s mutable :P
14:35<frosch123>i am not sure whether i can still change the cargo translation table during activation phase
14:35<frosch123>maybe i could loop over all labels and test their presence
14:36<frosch123>@calc 96**4
14:36<@DorpsGek>frosch123: 84934656
14:36<frosch123>80 million iterations when loading the grf
14:36<frosch123>no idea how long that would take
14:37<frosch123>@calc 30**4
14:37<@DorpsGek>frosch123: 810000
14:37<frosch123>could restrict it to only uppercase letters and a few specials like _
14:39<frosch123>andythenorth: did you consider adding large display to industry graphics
14:40<frosch123>where they display their production rate?
14:40<andythenorth>in the sprites?
14:41<frosch123>yes
14:41<frosch123>using the sprite font
14:41<andythenorth>no :)
14:42<andythenorth>I considered trying to show accept / produce cargos before
14:42<frosch123>maybe something for yeti
14:42<frosch123>"WANT FOOD", "WANT COAL"
14:43<andythenorth>WANT YETI
14:43<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27866 /branches/1.7 (7 files in 4 dirs) (2017-05-04 20:43:13 +0200 )
14:43<@DorpsGek>[1.7] -Update: Documentation
14:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27867 /tags/1.7.1-RC1 (3 files in 3 dirs) (2017-05-04 20:45:16 +0200 )
14:45<@DorpsGek>-Release: 1.7.1-RC1
14:45<Wolf01>\o/
14:46<andythenorth>:)
14:46*andythenorth should finish bloody FIRS
14:46<andythenorth>April 1 came and went
14:46<frosch123>is there a verbal jedi greeting?
14:48<andythenorth>only in the force, probably
14:48<andythenorth>hmm, can I build FIRS port-type industries on rivers?
14:48<andythenorth>some maps don’t have enough coast :P
14:55<@Alberth>o/ andy
14:58<andythenorth>got an idea for a variant of BB
14:58<andythenorth>where town cargos have to be delivered constantly at x / year
14:58<andythenorth>anywhere on the map
14:58<andythenorth>with some kind of ‘level up’ mechanic
14:59<andythenorth>but primary freight works like BB, with spot contracts
15:09<@Alberth>sort of distributed city builder :)
15:10<andythenorth>kind of
15:10<andythenorth>actual city growth I don’t care about
15:11<@Alberth>isn't city cargoes a bit limited?
15:11<@Alberth>ho, I missed a line of text :)
15:12<@Alberth>what's primary freight?
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15:44<frosch123>@topic set 1 1.7.1-RC1, 1.7.0
15:44-!-DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.7.1-RC1, 1.7.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | #openttd.dev if this channel is really spammy
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16:13<Wolf01><frosch123> is there a verbal jedi greeting? <- "FORCEd removal of canals"
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16:34<frosch123>Wolf01: https://www.openttd.org/en/ <- acceptable?
16:34<Wolf01>Ahaha :D
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18:25<Wolf01>'night
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21:08<supermop>ST2: actually both burned and burnt are used in english
21:08<supermop>oops that was old
21:08<ST2>not that old ^^
21:08<ST2>still on my brain xD
21:09<supermop>this irc client doesn't scroll down if ive scrolled up a bit
21:09<ST2>my native language is not english and I make alot of mistakes on it :S
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21:09<supermop>and it stays on for sometimes days without me looking at it
21:10<supermop>its hard to explain the difference between burned and burnt in a straightforward way
21:10<ST2>it's like learned and learnt
21:10<supermop>and using one for the other will still be understood, but just sound maybe archaic
21:11<supermop>hmm its a bit different than that case
21:11<supermop>but
21:11<supermop>you would say, "i burned a log"
21:11<ST2>well, people get the idea, that's what matters xD
21:11<supermop>or "this log looks a bit burnt"
21:12<supermop>"i am a bit burnt"
21:12<ST2>well, "I'm a bit burned" would fit aswell xD
21:12<supermop>but you could say "i got burned" and "i got burnt" equally correct
21:13<supermop>"burned" is less used as an adjective
21:13<supermop>but yes we would understand you
21:14<supermop>also "i burned a log" or "I've burnt a log"
21:14<supermop>in the past tense the are still interchangeable, but the above is most common
21:14<ST2>I must say, by the examples you're taking... you're a fire people xD
21:15<supermop>wel for learn, it is the opposite
21:15<supermop>"learbt" is almost never used as adjective
21:15<supermop>"learnt"
21:16<supermop>"learned" is used almost entirely as adjecttive
21:16<supermop>"i learnt german"
21:16<supermop>"i am a learned scholar"
21:17<supermop>"i have learnt X" and "i have learned X" are both ok
21:17<ST2>something that places "time" on it?
21:17<supermop>"i learned german" makes you sound like a moron though
21:17<ST2>like, past, present, etc
21:18<supermop>more like past vs past perfect i guess?
21:18<ST2>oh crap, there comes the Portuguese nightmares (and it's my native language xD)
21:18<ST2>but I understand you :)
21:19<supermop>also only a few verbs in english have the "t" past tense
21:19<ST2>thx for the explanations :)
21:19<supermop>and they are all close to their german origins
21:19<ST2>if I may ask, you teach english?
21:19<supermop>nope
21:19<ST2>because you have the touch for it :)
21:20<supermop>but i enjoy learning other languages, and it helps me to understand the structure of english
21:20<supermop>and it's evolution from german/dutch/norse
21:21<ST2>my base is Portuguese: English and French from school (looooong time ago)
21:21<supermop>for me, i never seem to gain proficiency at other languages i study
21:21<ST2>Spanish and italian... travels ^^
21:22<ST2>and I live 30 km of Spain ^^
21:22<supermop>but i am fascinated by the etymology and linguistics
21:23<ST2>if you ever come to Portugal, such small country, and huge linguistic differences: north/south, and even the "Mirandes"
21:24<supermop>i've studied apart from english, french in preschool, and again in middleschool, spanish briefly in elementary school, latin in middle school, german in middle school high school and university,
21:24<supermop>japanese in university and post university
21:24<supermop>swedish one semester in university,
21:24<ST2>oh damn - guess I can swear in PT then, safely?!
21:24<ST2>xD
21:24<supermop>korean briefly just this year
21:25<supermop>of all those, today i can only speak english and a little japanese
21:25<supermop>i can easily read menus in spanish because it is common here
21:26<supermop>and can generally make out written french, german, and italian
21:26<supermop>dutch is easy for english speakers to read if you sort of zone out
21:26<ST2>Spanish is easy, as language... what screws is the accent
21:26<supermop>like an optical illusion
21:27<supermop>it is frighteningly looking at first, but if you stop concentrating it starts to read like english
21:27<supermop>i find it interesting in spanish, that nearly a billion people in north and south america speak a very similar spanish
21:27<supermop>but in spain, every town is different
21:28<ST2>you dnt say xD
21:28<supermop>of course a mexican accent is different from colombia, but it is still easily understood as a similar dialect
21:29<supermop>but castillian sounds strange to many americans, as does valencian etc
21:29<ST2>it kinda ruins Trump's wall xD
21:30<ST2>note: not typing much because watching a movie on other screen ^^
21:30<supermop>mexican spanish is unique in that it contains many mayan, oaxacan, and nahulatl words
21:31<supermop>but the rest of the dialect is not too weird compared to other central or south american dialects
21:31<ST2>hint: put Brazilian PT on a diff basket xD
21:32<supermop>i find when a friend on facebook posts in portugese, it is usually not too hard to interpret
21:32<supermop>but he is a portugese guy living in brazil
21:33<supermop>for me, if i am eavesdropping, i cannot understand at all chinese
21:34<supermop>i have lived in chinatown long enough now that i can tell the diiference between fujianese, cantonese, mandarin easily
21:34<supermop>and can recognize a bejing accent
21:35<supermop>but i can't tell difference between shanghaiese and mandarin
21:35<supermop>or haka and fujianese (maybe they are the same?)
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