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04:18<Wolf01>o/
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09:50<supermop>yo
09:51<Wolf01>o/
09:52<supermop>instead of drawing steam and petrol trams last night, i ended up spending my time tweaking pixels on my truck trailers
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09:59<Wolf01>I made another lego valkyrie from macross for the next exposition
09:59<supermop>thaat sounds complex
09:59<supermop>i feel like macross was before my time, never really knew much about it
10:00<Wolf01>Nah, grf is a way more complex thing, with lego the worst problem is the lack of parts of the right colour
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10:06<supermop>not sure anyone is going to care that when you buy a 3rd or 4th gen livestrock truck, there is a chance the trailer will be grey with 1+2cc stripe, instead of just 1cc
10:11<supermop>maybe ill make a spreadsheet
10:19<Wolf01>Bah, if it's recognizable as yours then is not a problem
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10:25<supermop>mineral hopper trucks look weird with long trailer
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10:32<Wolf01>BBL
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11:01<Vadtec>im drawing a blank atm...wheres the option to make "immenent closure" actually take some time rather than just going off as soon as the news ticker shows up?
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11:33<@Alberth>o/
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12:44<Wolf01>o/
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13:01<@Alberth>o/
13:08<supermop>yo
13:11<Eddi|zuHause>Vadtec: there is no such option, but newgrfs can override the closing behavior
13:17<supermop>drawing trucks is a mental trap
13:25<Wolf01>Also driving them
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27875 trunk/src/lang/simplified_chinese.txt (2017-05-23 19:45:37 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>chinese (simplified): 7 changes by chenwt0315
13:46<Wolf01>http://webster.openttdcoop.org/index.php?channel=openttd&date=1489449600 I was browsing my bookmarks
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14:31<Wolf01>Quak
14:31<frosch123>hoin
14:31<@planetmaker>./
14:31<Wolf01>What a small head you have
14:31<Wolf01>Or a long arm
14:32<frosch123>he makes planets with them
14:32<Wolf01>XD
14:32<@planetmaker>^^ hehe
14:40<supermop>is there an easy way to keep like all my trucks in one nml file, all my trams in another, etc?
14:41<frosch123>not with nml alone
14:41<frosch123>you need some secondary preprocessor for that
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15:04<supermop>https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pt5nz4udv
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15:05<supermop>for some reason that doesn't work
15:08<frosch123>what does the newgrf debug gui say?
15:10<frosch123>does it list callback 10 as enabled?
15:12<supermop>is that in game?
15:12<frosch123>yes
15:14<frosch123>https://wiki.openttd.org/NewGRF_Debugging#Variable_.2F_Property_inspection_tool
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15:18<frosch123>actually, what does not work?
15:18<frosch123>does it show no effect, or does it not change?
15:20<supermop>doesn't change
15:21<frosch123>always electric or always diesel?
15:21<frosch123>what if you swap the return values in the switch?
15:22<supermop>uh 1 sec
15:32<supermop>its always diesel
15:35<supermop>it does list cb 10
15:37<frosch123>and it's still diesel if you put electric into the default result?
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15:47<Vadtec>Eddi|zuHause: that explains why i cant find the option! i knew i had changed that in the past, just couldnt remember how. thanks!
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15:51<supermop>frosch123: then it sparks even on regular road
15:52<frosch123>ok, so the switch has *some* effect
15:56<frosch123>what does the newgrf debug window say for variable 4A ?
15:57<frosch123>it should be the index in your roadtype translation table
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15:58<supermop>1 sec i closed game again
16:07<supermop>00000101
16:07<frosch123>5
16:07<frosch123>what is your roadtypetranslationtable?
16:07<supermop>it says 00000101 on both ROAD and ELRL
16:08<supermop>ROAD, ELRD, CBRE, PVRE, ISRE, EGRV, ELAS
16:08<frosch123>5 is EGRV
16:09<supermop>oh its actually on 00000100 on Road
16:09<frosch123>that would be ISRE
16:09<supermop>the above table is from the rv grf
16:10<supermop>but the road set grf might have more
16:10<frosch123>yes, no idea what shuffles them
16:10<supermop>let me find that
16:10<frosch123>only the rv grf matters
16:14<frosch123>though if it matches the position in the roadtype grf, that would also be a hint
16:21<supermop>i have two roadtype grfs loaded
16:22<supermop>first is ROAD, ELRD, DIRT, GRAV, EGRV, ASPT, ELAS, HWAY,
16:22<supermop>second is ROAD, ELRD, YDRD, CBRD, CBRE, PVRD, PVRE, ISRD, ISRE
16:22<supermop>then rv grf is loaded last
16:24<supermop>odd as the power and running cost switches seem to work fine
16:27<frosch123>oh, wait, i read it incorrectly
16:27<frosch123>we need to ignore the 100 part
16:27<frosch123>so, the result is either 0 or 1
16:27<frosch123>which would be ROAD or ELRD
16:28<supermop>in that case it was driving only on road and elrd
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16:28<frosch123>well, i am running out of ideas
16:28<frosch123>the variable works
16:28<frosch123>and the switch is used
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18:26<Vadtec>can someone point me to the wiki where it explains how "% transported" is calculated for industries?
18:27<Vadtec>i know ive read it before, just cant figure out where
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18:36<Eddi|zuHause>it's some sort of average over the nearby station ratings
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