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02:38<andythenorth>wow
02:38<andythenorth>the FIRS forest looks crap with ogfx trees :)
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04:49<Wolf01>o/
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06:54<andythenorth>isn’t it
06:54<andythenorth>weather
06:54<Wolf01>Muggy :|
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07:45<Eddi|zuHause>never heard that word before
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08:03<andythenorth>slag grinding
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08:36<@Alberth>o/
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08:59<andythenorth>lo Alberth
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09:17<@Alberth>paper mill thingie done?
09:18<@Alberth>not sure I like the left-most white building much
09:20<@Alberth>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1186924#p1186924 left-bottom white box on top of the brick-building, looks a lot copy-ish from the other white box
09:20<@Alberth>might be better without that white box?
09:20<@Alberth>but if it's done, no worries, I'll live :)
09:21<@Alberth>should I worry about how to get the wood into the factory?
09:27<andythenorth>got a new one, didn’t screen shot yet
09:28<andythenorth>http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#paper_mill
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09:36<@Alberth>looks better
09:36<@Alberth>not sure why, building is more massive
09:37<@Alberth>repetition isn't an issue to me, at first sight, perhaps there are sufficient other things around it
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09:43<andythenorth>it’s better tied in, the brown colour continues in all the buildings
09:44<andythenorth>and I swapped the big grey pipe thing for smaller chemical plant details
09:44<andythenorth>it’s my new favourite industry :)
09:44<andythenorth>until the next one
09:46<supermop_home>yo
09:46<supermop_home>lack of big grey thing helps
09:48<supermop_home>can a switch have results like "x: return (<other_switch>+2)
09:48<supermop_home>trying to add params to balance capacity and running costs
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09:48<supermop_home>rather it will be:
09:50<supermop_home>x: return other_switch; y: return other_switch; default: return (other_switch*1.3)
09:51<supermop_home>Alberth: industrial buildings are often repetitive
09:55<@Alberth>merge the * 1.3 in the return value of 'other_switch' ?
09:56<@Alberth>but otherwise, not sure, what does nml say?
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09:56<supermop_home>other switch sets the running cost for a diesel truck by parameter
09:56<supermop_home>electric truck
09:57<supermop_home>the 1.3 is the amount to increase running cost of a dual mode truck when it is not on ELRD
09:57<@Alberth>ah
09:58<supermop_home>so a trolley truck uses value of other_switch directly in callback for running cost
09:58<supermop_home>but dual mode truck must first check to see if it is on a powered roadtype
09:59<supermop_home>idk if there is an easier way to multiply all running costs or capacities in a newgrf by same factor
09:59<@Alberth>neither do I, nml should complain if it is not allowed to multiply a returned value by some factor
10:00<@Alberth>although you should probably do 13 * other_switch / 10
10:00<supermop_home>is that a programming thing in general?
10:01<@Alberth>alternatively, you can perhaps do a (on_elrd ? 1 : 1.3)
10:01<supermop_home>whoa
10:01<@Alberth>newgrf only do integers, and first multiply and then divide gives the best precision
10:01<supermop_home>really
10:01<supermop_home>?
10:01<supermop_home>i have a switch that checks every known electric road label
10:02<@Alberth>can you store a switch return value in a register?
10:03<supermop_home>i don't know what that means, but I couldn't find in documentation how to set some constant
10:04<@Alberth>just return the value, afaik
10:04<@Alberth>maybe you can even use the parameter itself, don't know how it's value is decided
10:04<@Alberth>perhaps just 0, 1, ... ?
10:05<@Alberth>so (10 + param * 3) :)
10:14<supermop_home>huh
10:27<supermop_home>ok now need to make a new batch of sprites so I can compile this and test it
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11:04<supermop_home>https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:List_of_default_colour_translation_palettes
11:04<supermop_home>can I make a non-default?
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11:16<FLHerne>supermop_home: https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Recolour_sprites , https://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial/Train_recolour
11:16<@Alberth>"You can use the palette name directly." suggests you can use any palette
11:17<@Alberth>don't know what happens if you have a different palette though
11:18<@Alberth>it might renumber data values if it is smart
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11:18<@Alberth>why do you use a non-standard palette anyway
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27876 trunk/src/lang/swedish.txt (2017-05-27 19:45:39 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>swedish: 3 changes by Joel_A
13:49*andythenorth working on a soda ash mine https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8444/soda_ash_mine.png
13:49<andythenorth>or such irl http://il6.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/10514012/thumb/1.jpg
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15:19<andythenorth>Wolf01: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/150810-lego-porsche-crashtest/
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