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03:05<Wolf01>o/
03:06<__ln___>an early wolf catches the worm
03:06<Wolf01>An early wolf curses the people around him
03:07<crem>\o
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07:58<V453000>yo o_O
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09:28<supermop>yo
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09:40<@Alberth>o/
09:44<supermop>hi Alberth
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09:45<supermop>https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bd/94/ba/bd94baeeb7ec448ede8a1283792341f1.jpg
09:48<@Alberth>ice cubes are highly relevant today!
09:56<supermop>less needed is the coal delivery
10:25<supermop>i wish i had researched what interesting old trucks looked like before i drew them
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10:43<supermop>i guess i need to add pictures to get people to download
10:44<supermop>but then i need to roll maps until i get one picturesque enough
10:49*Wolf01 -> out with a girl (yes a real one)
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27882 trunk/src/lang/greek.txt (2017-06-19 19:45:37 +0200 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>greek: 7 changes by kyrm
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13:55<andythenorth>o/
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14:06<supermop>yo andy
14:06<supermop>square tube or round barstock for bench legs
14:06<andythenorth>supermop: google image search streamlined trucks
14:07<andythenorth>what kind of bench?
14:07<supermop>andythenorth: streamlined trucks too hard to draw in ogfx pixel style
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14:07<andythenorth>quak
14:07<supermop>wood casework storage on metal legs
14:07<supermop>upholstered seat cushions
14:08<andythenorth>what floor will it sit, what’s the wall decor?
14:08<supermop>my design was for round stock as a visually thin, soft minimalist juxtaposition to the wood
14:08<andythenorth>if it’s anything other than industrialist, I’d go round
14:08<supermop>but welder wants to do square now as it's obviously cheaper and easier for him
14:08<supermop>yeah
14:09<supermop>square tube bases and legs are ubiquitous these days
14:09<supermop>its on engineered hardwood floor, decor is pretty minimalist
14:09<supermop>though client could really go either way
14:10<supermop>if i put it to her it will be 2 more weeks til we get a decision
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14:10<andythenorth_>I wish my client would stop dropping the connection
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14:11<supermop>she also kind of wants some rustic industrial coat rack in the foyer and im fighting to keep this from becoming too eclectic
14:11<supermop>and fighting my boss who like all millwork to be obnoxiously chunky
14:12<supermop>http://imgur.com/a/Shdho
14:12<supermop>from welder
14:13<supermop>matte black paint on metal, limed white oak for the wood
14:13<supermop>cushion was going to be blush 'millennial' pink but got toned down to grey
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14:18<frosch123>hoi
14:18<supermop>hi frosch123
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14:26<frosch123>https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pix6owfod?/pix6owfod <- dynamically typed languages...
14:27<frosch123>supermop: ^^ that's the reason why you encounter such a stupid error message
14:27<supermop>andythenorth: want to UK translate trucks
14:27<supermop>?
14:27<andythenorth>supermop: not in the least, sorry :D
14:27<supermop>hmmm
14:27<frosch123>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1187993#p1187993 <- that one
14:27<andythenorth>I prefer the US translation ;)
14:27<supermop>ok ctrl-H truck - lorry it is
14:28<andythenorth>truck, car, caboose
14:28<supermop>trucks not bogies
14:28*andythenorth doesn’t like rinky-dink little UK english terms for this
14:28<supermop>no little-englander he
14:43<supermop>my welders are harvard GSD grads in redhook - i don't think i can make much money on these
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15:05<andythenorth>spose I should finish FIRS 3 eh?
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15:11<supermop>what needs doing?
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17:17<Execthts>How does autosaving on a dedicated server work? I tried running "./openttd autosave" I saw somewhere, but the subcommand does not exist
17:17<Execthts>I'm trying to put it in a cronjob
17:27<FLHerne>Execthts: Autosave? Set your preferred frequency for `[gui] autosave` in openttd.cfg and run the game
17:27<FLHerne>Triggering the autosave manually would be a contradiction in terms
17:27<FLHerne>If you just mean saving it, look at the admin port
17:28<Execthts>oh
17:28<Execthts>is there a way to rotate autosaves?
17:29<ST2>try rename file to sevasotua.sav - if goes well, rotates 180º
17:30<ST2>xD
17:30<Execthts>Brilliant.
17:30<FLHerne>It does that, there are 16 and it overwrites the oldest
17:31<FLHerne>(tricky bit might be to have it automatically load the most recent autosave on recovery)
17:32<Execthts>I see that by default monthly autosave is enabled
17:32<Execthts>there was an autosave before my manual one, but that's 3 hours behind, an ingame month isn't 3 hours irl, right?
17:33<Execthts>also it's not rotated, only a single 'autosave' file is there
17:33<glx_>depends if it pauses when no clients
17:33<Execthts>It does.
17:33<Eddi|zuHause>maybe you have weird settings
17:33<glx_>autosave don't happen when paused
17:33<FLHerne>Hm, I have autosave0.sav through 15
17:33<Eddi|zuHause>there might be a setting how many autosaves to keep
17:33<Execthts>We were playing at the time
17:34<FLHerne>I think that's the default behaviour
17:34<FLHerne>You're looking under saves/autosave/, right?
17:34<Execthts>'keep_all_autosave = true' is needed for 'max_num_autosaves = 16'?
17:35<FLHerne>"This setting will make OpenTTD ignore max_autosave_num"
17:35<FLHerne>Yes, apparently
17:35<FLHerne>(never heard of that setting before)
17:36<Execthts>wha
17:36<Execthts>In https://wiki.openttd.org/Openttd.cfg: 'max_num_autosaves = [true | false]'
17:36<Execthts>Default value in openttd.cfg for me: 'max_num_autosaves = 16'
17:37<FLHerne>Yay, wiki
17:38<FLHerne>Hm, `keep_all_autosave = false` here
17:38<FLHerne>But I definitely have rotating autosaves
17:38<Execthts>Running dedicated?
17:38<FLHerne>Someone™ should improve the wiki for these things :P
17:38<FLHerne>No
17:38<FLHerne>At least not recently
17:39<FLHerne>But it really shouldn't make a difference...
17:39<Execthts>I'm not sure that the [gui] part works for dedicated too
17:40<Eddi|zuHause>"keep_all_autosaves" means infinite
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17:40<FLHerne>Ah
17:40<Execthts>Then with that being 'false', why doesn't the 'max_num_autosaves' work?
17:40<FLHerne>So it ignores max_num in the opposite direction
17:41<Eddi|zuHause>there were some debug settings that mess with autosaves
17:45<Execthts>oh damn
17:46<Execthts>actually, the setting does work. The autosave 'file' was a folder.
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18:03<FLHerne>:D
18:04<FLHerne>Your shell probably has an option to add the trailing / to directory names, you should enable it if it isn't already
18:04<Alkel_U3>having output of ls colored might come handy, too :-)
18:07<Execthts>The user dedicated for openttd didn't have a .bashrc, so the 'll' I'm used to doesn't work and I'm lazy to copy it over
18:08<Execthts>btw, in what order the autosaveX.sav are overwritten?
18:08<Execthts>I'm not sure that https://i.imgur.com/JKMjjAh.png these write times are right
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18:20<Eddi|zuHause>what's wrong with those?
18:21<Execthts>nvm, renaming a file probably doesn't generate a new write time
18:21<Eddi|zuHause>it always overwrites the oldest one, so next would be 5, then 6, then 7, ...
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18:22<Eddi|zuHause>it doesn't rename
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