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04:01<Wolf01>o/
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04:45<Wolf01>Mmmmh, I think I need to purchase some Blues Saraceno albums
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06:16<V453000>lol slugs
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11:17<@Alberth>hola
11:19<@planetmaker>o/
11:25<frosch123>moi
11:38<supermop>yo
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13:38<@Alberth>LordAro: Please fix the Compare(x, x) -> true first, that should never happen, it does that in all compare functions for the first 600 lines patch-file
13:40<LordAro>Alberth: huh, you mean a<=b instead of a<b ?
13:40<@Alberth>I mean _reverse != (a<a)
13:41<@Alberth>for one value of {false, true} that gives true
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13:47<frosch123>if the comparator returns true for a<a, it may result in an infinite loop
13:48<frosch123>at least for the implementation that came with g++ 4.1
13:49<frosch123>no idea whether someone made it more robust
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13:55<@Alberth>ha, found alcohol cargo in arctic basic :)
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14:10<@Alberth>o/
14:10<andythenorth>hi hi
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14:37<LordAro>Alberth: hmm
14:39<LordAro>Alberth: i feel like there should be a cleaner way of doing _reverse ? !r : r
14:40<LordAro>which still wouldn't actually fix the issue, would it?
14:41<LordAro>a!=b && _reverse ? !(a<b) : (a<b) then
14:43<@Alberth>something like that, but I doubt it counts as cleaner :)
14:44<@Alberth>if (r == 0) return false; return _reverse != (r < 0);
14:45<@Alberth>you can fold that in a function of course
14:46<@Alberth>the subtle change is that -0 == 0, but b != !b
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15:24<LordAro>aye
15:25<LordAro>actually
15:26<LordAro>for most of the functions if a == b, then they go via a "lower level" sorting function instead
15:26<LordAro>so this issue is moot?
15:39<@Alberth>except for the lowest compare, which was the case for at least the compare functions in the first 600 lines of the patch
15:39<@Alberth>at that point I stopped reading, so there may be more
15:39<LordAro>yeah
15:41<@Alberth>my sort of standard approach is if (a.x != b.x) return a.x < b.x; if (a.y != b.y) return a.y < b.y; /* etc *; return false; ie test each field for equality first
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15:44<LordAro>hmm, i can't just do a basic a != b check, can i? i have to check that the test the function does is equal
15:44<LordAro>because (e.g.) a != b, but a->foo == b->foo may be the case
15:45*LordAro wonders how a == b could cause an infinite loop
15:45<@Alberth>bool operator==(T &x, T& y) { .. }
15:45<@Alberth>repeatedly swapping the values
15:46<LordAro>ah, makes sense
15:47<LordAro>would std::stable_sort avoid this problem all together?
15:47<@Alberth>probably depends on some detail in the implementation
15:47<@Alberth>no, since (a<a) must return false
15:48<@Alberth>it returns true in some cases, so you're in undefined waters
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15:48<LordAro>right, yeah
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15:49<@Alberth>sometimes it's useful to have this special 0 value :)
15:52*LordAro sits in a corner in a huff
15:56<@Alberth>it's too warm :p
15:56<LordAro>damn right
15:57<@Alberth>stop doing stuff this evening, and tomorrow insert an equality test
15:59<LordAro>but i've just finished :p https://gist.github.com/LordAro/760063761dc46bacb0c37576c296361a (updated)
15:59<@Alberth>:O
16:00<LordAro>hehe, diffs of diffs are always fun
16:01<@Alberth>I tried that a few times to save the mq state, but it's too complicated to read :)
16:01<LordAro>i used to do it quite a bit for the 32bpp patches
16:01<@Alberth>you have to be really awake for that stuff :p
16:01<LordAro>aye
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16:02<@Alberth>but it has its uses, like checking that you copied each hunk of a patch (only different line numbers thus)
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16:17<@Alberth>nn
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17:05<supermop>yo
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17:22<andythenorth>lo supermop
17:23<supermop>how goes
17:24<andythenorth>hot
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17:40<supermop>here auch
17:42<andythenorth>also bedtime
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17:53<Wolf01>Back o/
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