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---Logopened Thu Jun 22 00:00:44 2017
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04:25<Eddi|nichZuHause>any mac expert here? my boss' laptop "doesn't scroll anymore"...
04:27<Eddi|nichZuHause>i suspect the multitouch functionality of the trackpad is broken, is that something that happens?`
04:27<Eddi|nichZuHause>i don't find an obvious "wrong" setting
04:28<Eddi|nichZuHause>... not that you ever find non-obvious settings in macos
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05:28<crem>Yes, moin.
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05:59<LordAro>sometimes, eddi is not zuhause
06:01<__ln___>Eddi|nichZuHause: never heard of trackpad's multitouch getting broken if the trackpad itself still works. also could be worth testing if it scrolls when a usb mouse is connected.
06:03<Eddi|nichZuHause>__ln___: it's probably not anything i can solve anyway, i gave it back with "i did not find the error, you should maybe go to an apple shop"
06:03<Wolf01>Really you never seen it? Trackpad multitouch on my laptop stopped working every odd update on ubuntu to start working again on the next update (or reinstalling the drivers)
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06:05<__ln___>Wolf01: i've seen ubuntu being broken in many many ways, but the situation Eddi described didn't involve ubuntu crap
06:07<Wolf01>Clearly is a software problem, if it was a hardware problem it wouldn't work at all
06:10<LordAro>if only it were so easy
06:10<LordAro>i've seen enough intermittent hardware faults to never rule it out
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06:11<Wolf01>I've only seen macbook trackpads stop working because the battery inflated and bent the case
06:11<Wolf01>But they stopped working entirely
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06:29<V453000>=D modded the shit out of factorio yesterday
06:29<V453000>it's retarded(ly) fun
06:36<Wolf01>How is the modding status for 0.15?
06:37<V453000>fine? :D
06:37<Wolf01>All mods already compatible?
06:38<V453000>well it's never going to be all, but all of the ones people care about, sure
06:38<V453000>it's been that way for a while, really
06:38<V453000>in fact people are starting to come up with random retarded shit now, useful stuff not much lately
06:39<Wolf01>I go for bob's inserters and ion cannon
06:39<Wolf01>Still no belt divider?
06:39<V453000>well I didn't use these in 0.15 but I saw them on the mod portal
06:39<V453000>no need for belt divider, the graphics might hint at the functionality of UG belt a bit more
06:39<V453000>is enough
06:42<Wolf01>I've built so many of those UG belt contraptions that now I just want to do it with one click
06:42<Wolf01>My current factory is filled with dividers and lane switchers
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09:50<V453000>trains exploding, slug world domination plan becoming reality?
09:57<Flygon>Slug World Domination?
09:57<Flygon>Didn't they drop that and replace it with the Borg?
09:58*Flygon hi-fives nekomaster
09:58*nekomaster hi-fives Flygon!
09:59<V453000>nope, slugs it is
09:59<V453000>future is clear
10:00<nekomaster>What about flying slugs? or are you going to continue to limit their journey to pre planed paths
10:00<nekomaster>(aka rails)
10:00<V453000>flying, swimming, transforming, devouring all
10:00<V453000>there is no end
10:01<nekomaster>just so long as they continue to transport my coffee and beer, i'm good
10:01<V453000>it will be theirs at that point, but sure
10:06<Flygon>I mean
10:06<Flygon>The alternative is that it's the Animorphs verse
10:07<Flygon>I can't accept Rachel dying
10:07<nekomaster>last I saw Animorphs mentioned where the books as a kid
10:07<nekomaster>Not that I really read much books when I was younger
10:07<nekomaster>I've never really been a book person
10:08<Flygon>I read books ALL the time.
10:08<Flygon>Not much else to do as a kid.
10:08<nekomaster>I had game consoles and things to do outside
10:09<nekomaster>and once i learned how to ride a bike I was riding all over town
10:09<nekomaster>even figured out how to get to the Oshawa beach and the north end within a week
10:09<nekomaster>I want from falling off bikes to covering most of Oshawa by bike at 12 years old
10:28<Flygon>I was broke.
10:29<nekomaster>I've always been broke
10:30<nekomaster>just my dad figures out ways to get things
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10:42<supermop>laking motivation to finish tiny truck beds for early trucks
10:42<supermop>really only fit one crate, which looks stupid
10:42<supermop>or like 2 sheep in open truck
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10:44<supermop>also i am at work right now so can't really draw anyway
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10:44<supermop>feel like this set will never get to 1.0.0
10:50<supermop>maybe i shouldn't shorten the logs and show them hanging off the back of the truck
10:50<@Alberth>but it's so simple, just declare it finished, add a nice label "1.0.0", and done!
10:51<nekomaster>I wont declare my stuff a proper version number until I'm sure most stuff has been tested
10:51<nekomaster>thus is why the NARS Add-on set uses the revision system
10:51<nekomaster>many things can change while I'm coding and doing stuff
10:51<nekomaster>which is why sometimes the minimum comptaitlbe version changes because I did something that would fuck up a new game
10:52<supermop>Alberth: more things i want to do
10:52<nekomaster>old save game
10:52<@Alberth>supermop nobody said you can't have a 2.0.0 :p
10:52<supermop>maybe 1.0 won't have trams
10:53<supermop>need to 'finish' so i can do some more work on fixing unspooled
10:54<FLHerne>"Even internal alphas have undergone more scrutiny than this program. It is only my boundless hubris that allows me to call this 'version 1.0'." -- Shamus Healey
10:54<FLHerne>Er, Shamus Young
10:55<FLHerne>(the keys are right next to each other)
10:55<supermop>apparently the author name underwent the 1.0 amount of scrutiny and not the internal alpha mount....
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11:09<supermop>as did my spelling of 'amount'
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12:06<frosch123>hmm, ./bin/factorio does not start openttd
12:07<@Alberth>sort-of it does
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12:31<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27883 trunk/src/console.cpp (2017-06-22 18:31:04 +0200 )
12:31<@DorpsGek>-Fix [FS#6576]: Console command parser passed invalid strings to the debug output, if command lines had many parameters.
12:32<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27884 trunk/src/console.cpp (2017-06-22 18:32:50 +0200 )
12:32<@DorpsGek>-Fix: Console command parser failed when the command had many parameters, and also did not print any error messages about it.
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12:57<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27885 /trunk/src/pathfinder/yapf (yapf_costrail.hpp yapf_type.hpp) (2017-06-22 18:57:06 +0200 )
12:57<@DorpsGek>-Cleanup (r27844): ESR_MAX_COST_EXCEEDED and ESR_PATH_TOO_LONG meant the same thing, but only one was used. Keep PATH_TOO_LONG since it has the better documentation.
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13:29<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27886 trunk/src/fileio.cpp (2017-06-22 19:29:53 +0200 )
13:30<@DorpsGek>-Fix [FS#6575-ish]: Do not modify argv[0].
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14:27<frosch123>is there a reason we have project files for msvc 2010 and 2015, but not for 2012 and 2013?
14:29<Eddi|zuHause>is there a point in having them for each? can't they be loaded anyway?
14:29<frosch123>that's no answer but a rewording of my question :p
14:33<Eddi|zuHause>answers rarely end with a question mark
14:38<Wolf01><Eddi|zuHause> is there a point in having them for each? can't they be loaded anyway? <- yes but VS tries to update the old project file and usually fails and break it, and puts a lot of new files too
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15:08<supermop>what are some nice alternatives to big rolls for copper
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15:12<supermop>maybe pipe or rod
15:15<frosch123>high voltage transformers
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15:35<frosch123>liquid aluminium
15:36<frosch123>i can't tell whether that is dangerous or not
15:36<frosch123>i.e. does it burn, or does it stop itself from burning
15:38<supermop>aluminum burns easily as a powder but actually doesn't oxidize that fast otherwise
15:38<supermop>you can cast aluminum without the surface really visibly burning
15:39<supermop>when you do small casts of it you get a bit of oxide on the surface but no visible flame really
15:41<supermop>brown paper on outside of paper rolls?
15:48<frosch123>looks like paper to me
15:48<frosch123>i guess something brown would make it look metally
15:48<frosch123>like bronce
15:49<frosch123>not sure, but maybe the rolls should be longer
15:51<frosch123> <- i expected something like that
15:52<frosch123> <- apparently there are also smaller ones
15:59<supermop>i see brown wrapped ones about 80cm wide and 80 cm diameter sitting on the sidewalk outside of print shops in chinatown here
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15:59<supermop>i guess brown paper also needs to be delivered
16:01<supermop>the short trucks only hold 1 pallets graphically, so instead of more loading stages, i am using the extra rows to show variants of the cargo
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