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02:01<andythenorth>o/
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06:41<Wolf01>Moin
06:41<Wolf01>What could I like to do today?
06:42<Wolf01>Also like != will
06:42<Eddi|zuHause>getting stuck on the black market
06:43<NGC3982>is there a industry grf that invokes black markets?
06:43<NGC3982>that would be cool.
06:44<Wolf01>Eddi|zuHause: nah, I've had enough of it, I'm not into games these days :(
06:45<NGC3982>Wolf01: make a nice cup of coffee.
06:45<NGC3982>that ritual is what keeps me going at times.
06:45<Wolf01>Already done it
06:45<Wolf01>Oh there's a festival just behind my home... it's raining...
06:51<NGC3982>umbrella!
06:57<Wolf01>Eh, it's raining so no festival
07:03<Eddi|zuHause>so there's a festival that isn't there?
07:03<Wolf01>Yes
07:04<Wolf01>Ads say there's a festival, but it isn't there because it's raining
07:19<NGC3982>oh, they cancelled it?
07:23<andythenorth>o/
07:27<Wolf01>o/
07:41<andythenorth>such pixels
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07:59<Wolf01>"Microsoft increases Windows Store device limit from 10 to 2,000" wat!?
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08:00<Wolf01>The step from 5 to 10 was useful, I can't understand the 2000 one
08:00<Eddi|zuHause>2000 is a "we're afraid to make it infinite, but we really don't want to limit anyone"
08:00<Wolf01>Maybe is required for Win10S and schools, so they can use only one account to download office from the store
08:02<Eddi|zuHause>i'm assuming there are special corporate and educational conditions for that kind of large organization
08:02<Wolf01>Yeah, but that's a store policy, not a windows' one
08:07<andythenorth>ships without orders hog CPU
08:07<andythenorth>someone has a patch for that
08:15*andythenorth needs that new blitter
08:15<andythenorth>ships use palette cycle
08:18<Eddi|zuHause>only when people want fancy wave effects
08:19<andythenorth>fancy
08:20<Wolf01>Lol, it seem that SYL is into conspiracy theories
08:23<andythenorth>awesome
08:23<andythenorth>conspiracy theories are so useful to keep us free
08:25<Wolf01>Could tooltips be changed dynamically? I have some really weird ideas
08:29<@peter1138>SYL? Strapping Young Lad?
08:47<andythenorth>Steve You Later
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09:29<Wolf01>Mmmh, at least 30 minutes until some nutella snack
09:40<andythenorth>is OpenTTD dead yet?
09:49<Wolf01>Fuck waiting, I'll get my nutella snack now
09:50<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: there used to be a "measurement tool" patch that used dynamic tooltips
09:50<Eddi|zuHause>as in, show how far you dragged
09:52<Eddi|zuHause>it should be just a matter of finding the right place to push the string parameters to the stack
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09:58<@Alberth>o/
09:58<andythenorth>lo Alkel_U3
09:58<andythenorth>once again, hasty tab-complete :P
09:58<@Alberth>lo andythenorth
09:58<andythenorth>moin Alberth
09:59<andythenorth>Eddi|zuHause: ship relative lengths per angle….I have / and \ at 3/5 of –
09:59<andythenorth>how long for | ?
09:59<andythenorth>trains seem to use 1/2 of – angle for |
09:59<Eddi|zuHause>yes
10:00<Eddi|zuHause>the ratio of | to – is not really controversial. – to / is... problematic
10:00*andythenorth does same then
10:02<@Alberth>would make sense to have the same relative lengths between trains and ships
10:03<@Alberth>although ships make it more obvious that scaling is off :p
10:04<Wolf01><Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: there used to be a "measurement tool" patch that used dynamic tooltips <- I don't remember if that was mine, but I was totally thinking of something like this, but for the interface to get more informations based on a vehicle status, industries, houses..., the problem is that it's useless on devices without a pointer
10:06<Wolf01>o/ Alberth
10:07<andythenorth>draing ships :P
10:07<andythenorth>on the plus side, I update one hull sprite, and 3 ship spritesheets update to use it
10:08<Wolf01>For – to / just slice it and move every column 1px up :P
10:09<Wolf01>But I'm not a designer, also I can't understand 2.5D and 3D projections
10:10<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: that is wrong on so many levels :p
10:41<Wolf01>https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4392/36248411983_e8e6ee5aa3_z.jpg
10:42<Wolf01>Too bad he used some non-lego parts
10:42<_dp_>iirc measurement tool didn't use gui tooltips it just looked like one
10:43<_dp_>some buttons in cm client use dynamic tooltips and that works in very weird way.
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11:19*andythenorth makes unsinkable sam
11:19<andythenorth>much talked so far, little drawn :P
11:19*Wolf01 makes a new shift for the Porsche
11:20<Wolf01>If only I can understand how shifts work
11:21<andythenorth>witchcraft
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12:02<andythenorth>does it really matter? https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6505
12:02<andythenorth>blah https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6490
12:03<andythenorth>more blah https://bugs.openttd.org/task/5873
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12:43<Wolf01><andythenorth> does it really matter? https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6505 <- why not?
12:43<andythenorth>seems dull :)
12:44<andythenorth>can’t imagine anyone committing that :)
12:48<Wolf01>You can do it when the lower tile has a train on it, but not when it has a ship on it...
12:49<@Alberth>most commits are dull edge cases nobody cares about
12:49<@Alberth>yet if you don't do them, it becomes a random mess
12:49<@Alberth>some cases work, other don't for no apparent reason
12:49<@Alberth>so it's a bugfix, imho
12:50<@Alberth>if it is solved properly, that is
12:50<Wolf01>Yes, it's a bugfix, maybe not done the right way but it solved the problem (I didn't try to patch)
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13:29<Eddi|zuHause>i feel like i blaze through the complicated puzzles, but completely fail on the easy ones
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13:46<@Alberth>complicated may be just big rather than complicated :)
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16:53<Eddi|zuHause>i seem to be missing something for this "interview"
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17:06<Wolf01>Deponia does not have complicate puzzles, lateral thinking and puns are the great part
17:07<Wolf01>Lateral thinking = you need to be weird minded like Rufus
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17:28<Eddi|zuHause>ok, let's call it "convoluted" :p
17:32<Wolf01>Lightning storm approaching...
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19:32<Wolf01>Ha! The perfect book for V: https://www.packtpub.com/packt/offers/free-learning
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