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07:28<Wolf01>Moin
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08:10<Wolf01>o/
08:30<Wolf01>"The new client appears to be incompatible with windows 10 creators update, we reccomend you to not update windows 10 creators update"... always blame others, yeah
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09:39<supermop_>hello
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09:47<andythenorth>hi
09:50<supermop_>not too keen on being back
09:50<supermop_>felt like i was gone a month
09:53<supermop_>should quit my job and move to osaka
10:11<@Alberth>o/
10:16<supermop_>hi Alberth
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10:45<Wolf01>o/
10:45<Wolf01><supermop_> should quit my job and move to osaka <- me too
10:45<Wolf01>But I liked more Kyoto
10:46<supermop_>Wolf01: didn't go to kyoto this trip, but this was my first trip with significant time spent in osaka
10:48<Wolf01>I visited Osaka for about one day, even if I stayed there for 4 days, there was a lot to see around there :P
10:50<Wolf01>https://xkcd.com/1888/ lol
10:57<@Alberth>silly file system :p
10:59<supermop_>this trip was mostly korea, and then Seto inland sea
10:59<supermop_>hiroshima, miyajima, okayama, naoshima, and teshima
11:00<supermop_>then one day in Osak and one in Tokyo
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11:25<supermop_>i was surprised at how many freight movements i saw down there
11:25<andythenorth>japan set
11:26<supermop_>there is still a ton of industrial activity in south/west honshu for a country in the 3rd decade of a recession
11:26<supermop_>even was on on some single track lines
11:27<supermop_>saw tones of JRF container rakes, DE10s hanging around yards, etc
11:27<supermop_>in tokyo all the freight is on bypasses in other parts of town so you barely every see it
11:28<supermop_>but down there a fast container train would blow through a station while you were waiting
11:56<Wolf01>Bah, wanted to fix my app, sdk disappeared, probably because I installed vs2017
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12:35<@peter1138>Right, shall I do something useful, or start work on a 20km minecart track...
12:35<andythenorth>30km
12:35<Wolf01>Minecraft track
12:35<andythenorth>what’s not useful about that?
12:35<@peter1138>It's 20km back to spawn, so...
12:35<andythenorth>you could do 1km, review a patch, say it’s crap, do another 1km
12:38<Wolf01>Mmmh shit takes age to update :(
12:42<Eddi|zuHause>i don't think track is the right approach to that kind of distance :p
12:42<Eddi|zuHause>you should be looking into teleportation :p
12:43<supermop_>so oddly enough, ktx highspeed trains in korea use lowlevel platforms
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12:44<@peter1138>Well, it's 2500 blocks in the nether but that seems... pointless.
12:51<Wolf01>Did you try elitras and rockets?
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12:59<@peter1138>Nah
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13:39<Wolf01>Quak
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13:40<Wolf01>Mmmh, the right framework version was there but not installed O_o
13:41<Eddi|zuHause>it might have eaten the config file
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13:42<Wolf01>I want to set cathegories to my rss feeds, but I don't know how to filter them... icons in the sidebar?
13:44<Wolf01>Double pivot might be an overkill
13:44<frosch123>moin
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14:31<@DorpsGek>Commit by frosch :: r27915 /trunk (8 files in 2 dirs) (2017-09-11 20:31:32 +0200 )
14:31<@DorpsGek>-Fix (r27730) [FS#6620]: Glyphs in range U+0020 to U+00FF may only be defined in orig_extra.grf, not in openttd.grf.
14:32<frosch123>libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile <- anyone knows how to get rid of them?
14:32<frosch123>open in gimp an resave?
14:36<@Alberth>"To get rid of it, remove the iCCP chunk from the PNG image." <-- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22745076/libpng-warning-iccp-known-incorrect-srgb-profile
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14:37<@Alberth>"To remove the invalid iCCP chunk from all of the PNG files in a folder (directory), you can use ImageMagick's mogrify *.png, provided that your ImageMagick was built with libpng16 (run convert -list format | grep PNG to be sure of that)."
14:38<@Alberth>no idea what it does :p
14:38<@Alberth>o/ andy
14:38<frosch123>apparently imagemagic's "convert -strip" is needed
14:40<andythenorth>hi ho
14:41<andythenorth>what’s the invalid iCCP chunk?
14:41<andythenorth>is that the invalid colour profiles thing?
14:41<andythenorth>CHIPS keeps reporting that on compile (grfcodec)
14:41<andythenorth>I keep stripping them with photoshop batch actions, but they come back
14:42<frosch123>hmm, -strip does too much
14:42<frosch123>it also removes the palette :p
14:42<LordAro>pfft, who needs that anyway
14:44<andythenorth>I got bored of that libpng warning
14:45<andythenorth>now I just ignore it
14:45<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/6a1f831bd3ea
14:45<andythenorth>they come back somehow, no idea how
14:45<andythenorth>hmm child #1 calls python ‘snake’ :P
14:46<supermop_>andythenorth: automate having child write .py for you
14:48<andythenorth>would be .sn
14:48<andythenorth>but yes
14:49<frosch123>V is your child?
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15:21<andythenorth>1 less FS eh :)
15:22<frosch123>enough for this year?
15:23<andythenorth>enough for this week :)
15:23<frosch123>month?
15:24<andythenorth>well I could finish the speed patch :P
15:24<andythenorth>I managed to make it crash, so that’s progress
15:24<frosch123>what's that?
15:24<andythenorth>re-arranging speed in the vehicle window
15:24<frosch123>oh, that one
15:25<andythenorth>wasn’t 1 line like I thought
15:25<andythenorth>I found the other cases to handle
15:25<frosch123>i thought people wanted a global setting to scale all vehicle speeds
15:25<andythenorth>'invalid'
15:25<andythenorth>ottd is remarkably similar to our biggest work app
15:26<andythenorth>even simple things become a tarpit of connected concerns
15:26<andythenorth>and only a couple of people can code review
15:26<SpComb>a C codebase orignally ported from asm written by a single guy, and then slowly suffered from the effects of many many peoppe porting it over to C++ over the years?
15:26<andythenorth>is fun :)_
15:27<frosch123>at my work i get a lot of chicken-egg problems, so it's at least different to ottd
15:27<andythenorth>SpComb: kinda not
15:27<andythenorth>more like a big Zope codebase, moved into Plone (a big CMS), then ported to ignore most of Plone while leaving it all in place
15:27<andythenorth>worked on by 3 or 4 people who knew what they were doing, and 3 or 4 more who really had no idea
15:29<andythenorth>like openttd, everything works, but progress on ‘new’ can be glacial
15:30<frosch123>does the imperial shoe maker order system work?
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15:33<andythenorth>only on certain days
15:34<frosch123>related to moon phase?
15:36<andythenorth>tides, so by abstraction, yes
15:38<andythenorth>frosch123: imperial shoemaker is this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elves_and_the_Shoemaker
15:38<andythenorth>or something different?
15:39<frosch123>http://thecodelesscode.com/case/33 <- no, the other thing you linked
15:39<frosch123>i used that to tutor my brother
15:41*andythenorth should remember own linls :P
15:41<andythenorth>links *
15:44<andythenorth>we need to move more things to be content, or use APIs
15:44<andythenorth>sound like a familiar approach? o_O
15:47<frosch123>case 31 is complicated
15:49<andythenorth>it is
15:50<andythenorth>there goes my evening :P
15:50*andythenorth was going to play OpenTTD :”
15:51<LordAro>what a preposterous idea
15:51<@peter1138>andythenorth, let's do it.
15:52<andythenorth>MP :o
15:56*andythenorth will have to go to sleep by time a game is configured :)
15:56<andythenorth>lame
16:04<frosch123>hmm, can i apply case 1 to coworkers?
16:06<Wolf01>I need to find a way to save an object on the DataContainer for the persistent storage... I considered to serialize it but it doesn't like the "Serializable()" attribute :(
16:07<frosch123>parallelize it
16:07<Wolf01>Mmmh, don't tempt me to do that
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17:01<frosch123>well, i can't get imagemagick to do what i want
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17:16<Wolf01>@roll getting killed repeatly in fallout 4 survival mode | try to find the stuff I need with the right stats in diablo 3 | netflix and ... and nothing else
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17:47<Eddi|zuHause>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5T_2VDZMxo
17:51<Wolf01>I could try netflix and sleep
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18:35<tits>LOOK AT ALL THE NIGGERS LOOTING IN FLORIDA ROFL!!
18:35<tits>JOIN THE DISCUSSION torniggaiaoxhlcl.onion/6667
18:35<tits>mindlesstux tokai|noir Montana supermop_ smoke_fumus Wormnest glx TheMask96 Cubey Wolf01 Hiddenfunstuff FLHerne Progman Smedles Exec debdog tycoondemon quiznilo supermop DDR Prof_Frink swimstar[m] grossing Tharbakim Ttech Defaultti orudge efess Arveen Maarten Mazur jer__ Laedek cHawk Alkel_U3
18:35<tits>UncleCJ Sacro Sylf Ram-Z XeryusTC fonsinchen Antheus Terkhen ^Spike^ goodger planetmaker guru3 Sheogorath avdg donar Rubidium_ NGC3982 milek7_ [dpk] Osai^ Eddi|zuHause APTX urdh nahkiss Compu TrueBrain-Bot techmagus gnu_jj cute[m] crem Lejving Keridos dustinm` idl0r jinks KouDy juzza1 dvim greeter
18:35<tits>mikegrb Extrems ccfreak2k Vadtec peter1138 Warrigal ericnoan Markk DorpsGek LongyanG innocenat ST2 fiatjaf LordAro blathijs michi_cc TheIJ OsteHovel argoneus KenjiE20 Yexo V453000 SmatZ tneo Hirundo murr4y m1cr0man Taede Hazzard funnel Lamp- Webster TinoDidriksen berndj Mavy lastmikoi jonty-co1p
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18:35<goodger>for the love of christ
18:35<Wolf01>Not
18:35<LordAro>lol.
18:36<quiznilo>same dude just hit us in #opensourcemusicians on freenode
18:36<ST2>well, some bots got no brain, that's a sure xD
18:36<quiznilo>*same bot whatever
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18:36<+glx>!ban *!*@179.105.113.170
18:37<LordAro>i'm curious about the ordering of that nick list
18:37<ST2>glx for the save ;)
18:37<+glx>grr stupid script
18:37<ST2>\o/
18:37<LordAro>glx: @ :p
18:37<+glx>@ban *!*@179.105.113.170
18:37<+glx>ok I need to read the commands
18:37<LordAro>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:38<Mazur>Did I hear my name taken in vain?
18:38<Mazur>I did.
18:38<+glx>@kban *!*@179.105.113.170
18:38<@DorpsGek>glx: Error: *!*@179.105.113.170 is not in #openttd.
18:38<Mazur>Stupid bots.
18:38<ST2>cmon, "How to understand Women" book it's smaller that commands tutorial - give it a break xD
18:38<+glx>@op
18:39-!-mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek
18:39-!-mode/#openttd [+b *!*@179.105.113.170] by glx
18:39<Mazur>@op
18:39<@glx>@deop
18:39-!-mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek
18:39<Mazur>Okies.
18:39<+glx>I just wanted to do it discretly but totally failed
18:40<ST2>no worries glx - make the noise you want - for the sanity of the channel, we don't mind :)
18:40<Mazur>Done the othe 3 OTTD channels, too.
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19:00<Eddi|zuHause>with bots like this you should probably go to the server staff
19:05<+glx>I think they probably already noticed it
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19:38<Wolf01>'night
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