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---Logopened Tue Sep 26 00:00:13 2017
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01:52<andythenorth>o/
02:06<V453000>yea
02:06<V453000>sup yo
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03:23<twb>me again, back to trying to package bananas plugins without using the in-game loader
03:24<twb>Beginner_Tutorial-17 wants import("util.superlib", "SuperLib", 27);
03:24<twb>But I can only see SuperLib version 40
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03:56<Breckett>hi
04:09<LordAro>twb: generally they're backwards compatible
04:10<twb>So should I just make like a symlink
04:24<twb>I tried this and I got the same error as before:
04:25<twb>root@inmate-1:~# ln -s SuperLib-40/ /usr/share/games/openttd/ai/library/SuperLib-36
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05:08<Wolf01>o/
05:13<crem>\o
05:15<Wolf01>http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2017/09/25/when-youve-thought-of-everything-almost/ classic
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12:29<_dp_>o/
12:29<_dp_>is it possible to do multiplatform stations with only block signals?
12:30<Wolf01>Yes, use 2 way signals at the entrances
12:30<Wolf01>Also you might need presignals if you have more trains than platforms
12:31<_dp_>but then if it's full next train will block on those signals
12:31<Wolf01>No, you need to use presignals to avoid blocks
12:31<_dp_>yeah, I know how to do it with presignals
12:32<_dp_>I'm just wondering how is it supposed to be done in original TTD
12:32<_dp_>it didn't have presignals iirc
12:33<Wolf01>It worked the same as it would work now if you only use plain block signals
12:33<_dp_>also wathed some mashinky videos and it seems to only have block signals as well
12:33<_dp_>so it just didn't work
12:34<_dp_>even roro stations are garbage with just block signals
12:34<Wolf01>Block signals or PBS? Because almost all the latest games have PBS like signals
12:34<Wolf01>For example TF has PBS like
12:34<_dp_>doesn't look any pbs like to me
12:34<_dp_>just regular block signal bs
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12:36<_dp_>people playing it seem to have no idea how any of those work so it's hard to tell for sure
12:36<_dp_>they just place signals randomly xD
12:36<Wolf01>Meh, Halo Wars 2, they make me download 25GB of update and thet don't even give the latest DLC for free for season pass users :(
12:42<Wolf01>BTW when will be possible to purchase and download Mashinky?
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12:52<Wolf01>Quak
12:53<Wolf01>Mmmh, no 2x2 curves in Mashinky, only 2x3 S curves and 3x3 curves
12:54<frosch123>moo
12:58<Eddi|zuHause>_dp_: people never have any idea how signals work, block or not
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13:03<_dp_>Eddi|zuHause, I've seen some people who do :p
13:03<Wolf01>Yes, people which is right here
13:04<Wolf01>*are
13:04<@Rubidium>nice... I'm people ;)
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13:07<frosch123>https://xkcd.com/1013/ <- just avoid the sheeple
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13:14<Wolf01>Mmmh, 23€ Mashinky EA
13:14<Wolf01>That or a lego for xmas
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14:24<andythenorth>o/
14:26<frosch123>ho
14:33<andythenorth>quak
14:33<andythenorth>and so on
14:34<Eddi|zuHause>quark
14:34<Eddi|zuHause>i don't have any, just pudding
14:35<supermop_>surely there are some quarks in there
14:36<supermop_>andythenorth: brown or grey floor?
14:36<supermop_>https://imgur.com/a/POyqn
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14:41<andythenorth>brown
14:41<andythenorth>you’ll lose grey against the roof
14:41<andythenorth>can you post 4x zoom sprites :P
14:41*andythenorth has to copy-paste to photoshop to see them :)
14:42<supermop_>haha
14:44<V453000>:D
14:44<V453000>x1 in a nutshell
14:46<frosch123>andythenorth: ctrl +
14:46<andythenorth>webkit is crap at that
14:46<andythenorth>it interpolates images horribly
14:46<andythenorth>optimised (ish) for photos
14:46<andythenorth>zooming pixel art results in coloured blobs :P
14:48<andythenorth>meanwhile
14:48<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8640/horse_hopper_cars.png
14:49<andythenorth>hopper cars such
14:49<V453000>too bright
14:49<V453000>& no noise in the gradient
14:49<V453000>general design iz nice
14:50<andythenorth>iz awesome
14:50<andythenorth>shift all colours down one shade?
14:50<andythenorth>sometimes horse sprites look too dark to me
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14:50<V453000>yeah try 1 shade
14:51<andythenorth>cars are too bright compared to engines
14:51<andythenorth>ok
14:51<V453000>but I think if you make it generally much noisier, then you can afford the full range
14:51<V453000>having the brightest 2 indexes here and there alternating at the top
14:53<andythenorth>gone right off noise
14:53<andythenorth>generally looks like a mess
14:53<V453000>well to a degree of course
14:53<V453000>but this is just clean as fuck
14:54<V453000>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/RailWagons_3rd_Hopper.png
14:57<andythenorth>Error: not automated
14:58<V453000>yeah iz about pixels :P
14:59<V453000>I think this kind of noisy non-linear gradients are not used enough in general
15:00<Wolf01>Looks like plastic
15:04<andythenorth>such lit
15:12<V453000>well it's no masterpiece, just a demonstration of the concept
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16:48<andythenorth>7/8 is a terrible length
16:55<V453000>discovery made
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