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02:52<@peter1138>Gotta love it when all of OVH is down... :p
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03:05<LordAro>ah, is that what's going on
03:05<LordAro>lol
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08:04<Samu>hi guys
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08:15<Samu>i found a bug, difficult to reproduce in a real game
08:16<Samu>requires exact timings
08:17<Samu>even I have some trouble reproducing it
08:18<Samu>have an aircraft going from airport A to B, with automatic servicing
08:18<Samu>no depot in the orders
08:19<Samu>when aircraft is heading to B and automatic servicing is triggered
08:19<Samu>create an order to go to hangar in airport A
08:20<Samu>demolish airport B, and build a helidepot
08:20<Samu>to replace it
08:20<Samu>skip current order
08:21<Samu>aircraft can't head to hangar A
08:21<Samu>skip current order again
08:21<Samu>aircraft can't head to airport A
08:22<Samu>manually send aircraft to hangar
08:22<Samu>aircraft can't go to hangar
08:22<Samu>basically, the aircraft is uncontrollable :(
08:53<V453000>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8762/WTF-2wayeol.png who can explain why 2way EOL breaks in this specific setup, but putting the depot behind 1 straight track works? :D
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09:52<Samu>how do i ... fix this
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09:52<Samu>aircraft is servicing at an unreachable hangar, I manually send it to hangar, but it just sends it to the unreachable hangar
09:53<Samu>it's not checking if it's reachable
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10:40<@Alberth>o/
10:40<crem1>\o
10:41<Samu>question https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/annotate/f4cc55fdf952/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp#l1625
10:41<Samu>isn't that code redundant? checking if it needs automatic service? it's being done somewhere else
10:42<Samu>this would only cancel automatic service, only to be called right away next day
10:43<Samu>it's not doing what the comment says
10:43<Samu>it is canceling it
10:46<@peter1138>No
10:49<Samu>here it is being checked, https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/annotate/f4cc55fdf952/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp#l439
10:49<Samu>when it lands it doesn't need to double check
10:51<Samu>who no?
10:51<Samu>why no?
10:53<@Alberth>my guess is, it's not canceling
10:54<Samu>it is cancelling it when it was already needing automatic servicing
10:55<Samu>that DoCommand ends up cancelling the service, then next day will re-activate it
11:04<Samu> if (!!(command & DEPOT_SERVICE) == halt_in_depot) {
11:05<Samu>DEPOT_SERVICE & DEPOT_SERVICE is true
11:05<Samu>halt_in_depot is false
11:05<Samu>if (!!(true) == false
11:06<Samu>it's false
11:07<Samu>ends up doing this: this->current_order.MakeDummy();
11:07<Samu>cancels
11:07<Samu>the going to depot
11:08<Samu>you there?
11:09<@Alberth>this->current_order.MakeDummy(); <- where is that? not inside the if
11:09<@Alberth>ie that piece of code isn't doing anything, right?
11:10<@Alberth>line 1625 evaluates to false condition -> skips the entire block
11:11<Samu>line 1625 is true
11:12<Samu>I was referring to line 1627
11:12<Samu>inside the DoCommand
11:12<Samu>what it ends up doing is this->current_order.MakeDummy();
11:13<Samu>vehicle.cpp
11:13<Samu>line hmm.. let me check
11:13<Samu>vehicle_cmd.cpp
11:14<Samu>no, it's really vehicle.cpp
11:14<Samu>line 2296
11:15<Samu>no, 2289
11:15<Samu>damn it, https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/annotate/f4cc55fdf952/src/vehicle.cpp#l2289
11:15<Samu>i forget my code is edited, it changes lines
11:21<Samu>what it should be doing was service at the depot if needed
11:21<Samu>but that is already being done OnNewDay
11:22<Samu>it doesn't need to be there
11:22<Samu>unless there's some other obscure reason for it, which I don't know
11:23<@Alberth>I never looked as close as you are doing, so I know less than you here
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11:28<Samu>this can be seen in a game
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11:29<Samu>have an airplane going between 2 airports, with breakdowns enabled and automatic servicing
11:29<Samu>when the aircraft needs servicing, it says servicing at xxx
11:29<Samu>when it lands, touches the ground, that service order is canceled
11:30<Samu>then a few seconds later, it pops again
11:36<Samu>i'm trying to make something for my patch
11:37<Samu>aircraft heading to an airport where it can no longer lang, is giving me a bit of problems with depot orders
11:37<Samu>no longer land*
11:39<Samu>if i manually send aircraft to hangar, it just transforms the servicing order into a send to depot order
11:39<Samu>but the hangar is unreachable
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11:40<Samu>it should be aware that airport is no longer land-able
11:44<Samu>this same problem could also happen in 1.7.1 if you suddenly replace an airport into a helistation
11:48<Samu>hmm depor orders grr
11:50<Samu>CommandCost Vehicle::SendToDepot(DoCommandFlag flags, DepotCommand command)
11:50<Samu>this needs awareness
11:50<Samu>needs editing
11:53<Samu>airport depots is the only depot where the depot doesn't poof when replacing an airport
11:53<Samu>the code is not prepared :(
12:00<Samu>for the other depots, demolishing a depot, will immediately invalidate the depot order from the vehicle that was going there
12:00<Samu>tried with a bus
12:00<Samu>what should I do?
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12:05<Samu>https://imgur.com/ih0wdfG
12:05<Samu>guess what happened there
12:07<Samu>aircraft can't land at heliport, but even if it could, that heliport doesn't have an hangar
12:07<Samu>how to solve this? :(
12:19<alluke>fuck
12:20<alluke>forgot my boozr in my car
12:20<alluke>gotta go get it before someone smashes the window and steals it
12:23<alluke>funny also that i get neonazis newspaper in my mailbox
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13:15<@Alberth>o/
13:15<Wolf01>o/
13:16<Wolf01>Reproduced my first framework bug today and opened a ticket :P
13:17<Wolf01>Also I'm destroyed... and I didn't anything particular, but the learning curve is too step
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13:21<Wolf01>Meow
13:21<andythenorth>hi
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13:45<GitGud>I love OpenTTD
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14:00<frosch123>hmm, did anyone advertise becoming an translator?
14:00<frosch123>three applications in 24 hours
14:02<@Alberth>there was a question in the FIRS thread about it
14:03<frosch123>so you did :)
14:03<@Alberth>no :)
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14:07<Samu>void RemoveOrderFromAllVehicles(OrderType type, DestinationID destination)
14:07<Samu>doesn't let me remove depot orders
14:07<Samu>why
14:07<Wolf01>Wrong order type or wrong destination?
14:08<Samu>gonna retry with station order instead
14:08<Samu> if (!st->airport.HasHangar()) { RemoveOrderFromAllVehicles(OT_GOTO_STATION, st->index);
14:09<Samu>i wanted to remove the goto depot order
14:09<Samu>not the station, but let's see what it does
14:11<Samu>this is bugged
14:12<Samu>well, doesn't suit my needs
14:15<Samu>https://imgur.com/KsCd5tW
14:15<Samu>order 2 was go to hangar
14:15<Samu>order 3 was go to airport
14:15<Samu>i wanted to eliminate the go to hangar order... but that is what it did :8
14:16<Samu>eliminated both
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14:46<Samu>i have a dilema
14:47<Samu>autoreplacing a small aircraft to a large aircraft and vice-versa
14:53<Samu>https://imgur.com/LrmZGry now that was unexpected
14:54<Samu>but it kinda solves my dilema perfectly
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15:07<andythenorth>iz?
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15:07<andythenorth>no V453000?
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15:11<@Alberth>must be buzy
15:15*andythenorth played a game
15:17<andythenorth>now waiting to see what frosch123 decides about industry output limit :)
15:17<andythenorth>then I wreck FIRS again...or not :)
15:18<frosch123>i am still messing with long vehicles
15:18<frosch123>pretty sure you have change for an addtioanl firs wreckage before we get 4 output cargos
15:20<andythenorth>4 :o
15:20<frosch123>4 seems to be a nice number which is unlikely to wreck the gui
15:21<andythenorth>hmm, then I will have to be disciplined and only use 3 of them :P
15:21<andythenorth>principally I think it aids ports
15:21<frosch123>well, the api will be capable for any amount of output cargos. but adding *some* limit ensures that the gui (industry gui and cargo flow gui) stay sane
15:22<andythenorth>I use 2 port-type industries often where 1 would be better
15:22<andythenorth>having 2 means they often are very not-where-you-want on the map
15:22<frosch123>iniitally i thought 8, but imagining the gui with long lists of output cargos was horrible, so 4 is better
15:22<andythenorth>8 is horrible, no gameplay rationale for that :)
15:23<frosch123>andythenorth: i guess the 4th cargo would be mostly exclusive for industry sets which have some worker mechanic
15:24<frosch123>tired yeti, general waste, ...
15:26<andythenorth>slag
15:27<frosch123>ecological debt
15:33<andythenorth>electricity :P
15:33<frosch123>empty batteries
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16:40<andythenorth>tin cargo?
16:45<supermop_>ha
16:45<supermop_>roofs?
16:51<andythenorth>cat on
16:51<frosch123>cats are no cargo
16:51<frosch123>they are a black hole industry
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17:07<Eddi|zuHause>not all cats are black, though
17:09<V453000>heyo huminz
17:09<V453000>frosch123: did you see my FS thingy
17:09<V453000>?
17:09<Wolf01>Make an industry which need food and cats to process it
17:17<Eddi|zuHause>cats are the opposite of yetis?
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