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03:33<PressureLine>.-.
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06:59<Samu>@logs
06:59<@DorpsGek>Samu: https://webster.openttdcoop.org/index.php?channel=openttd
06:59<crem>@discord
07:00<crem>No discord invite?..
07:29<@peter1138>https://imgur.com/a/kQbMe
07:29<@peter1138>Okay that's pretty cool
07:55<Samu>speaking of airports
07:55<Samu>helicopters can be stopped in the air when landing in some airports
07:55<Samu>they've not completely landed yet, but can be stopped :(
07:59<Samu>must learn what state machines or whatever work
07:59<Samu>any hint?
08:00<Samu>Finite sTate mAchine (FTA) of an airport.
08:00<LordAro>i believe i saw an existing bug report about that
08:00<LordAro>finite state automata (FSA) is the usual term
08:07<Samu>AirportMovingDataFlags
08:08<Samu>all the TTD airports + metropolitan, aren't bugged
08:08<Samu>the others added afterwards can stop helis on the air
08:09<Samu>but i'm gonna make sure of this one more time
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09:21<crem>http://store.steampowered.com/app/671440/Rise_of_Industry/
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10:43<Samu>where do I find each airport layout, can't find
10:44<Samu>the game is pulling layout data out from somewhere, where are they
10:45<@Rubidium>table?
10:48<Samu>aha, airport_movement.h, thx
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10:54<@Alberth>o/
10:58<Samu>geee, this is big!
11:02<crem>\i
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11:12<@Alberth>nah, it's just four letters
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12:22<andythenorth>o/
12:23<@Alberth>o/
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12:32<supermop_>yo
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12:37<@Alberth>oy
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12:49<andythenorth>tanks
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13:15<Wolf01>o/
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13:30<Wolf01>https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av74V2d_460sv.mp4 a what?
13:31<Wolf01>Did they need to move their entire rolling stock in one time?
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13:46<@Alberth>yearly test-drive :p
13:48<Thedarkb>What happened to Server 3?
13:49<Thedarkb>I miss it.
13:49<Thedarkb>I used to play it exclusively
14:03<@Alberth>we don't have a server 3
14:04<@Alberth>maybe you can try it with one of the owners of the site/server
14:05<Samu>i discovered where the problem arises, for the helidepot
14:05<Samu>line 772, airport_movement.h
14:06<Samu>HELIENDLANDING
14:06<Samu>it assumes the helicopter has landed, but it's still in the air
14:06<Samu>that's why I can stop it :(
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14:45<supermop_>i still am enjoying this photo of a 747 wearing a lei from last week
14:45<supermop_>http://media-s3-us-east-1.ceros.com/united/images/2017/11/09/3f4f60c71ace894c78442b22e52bb459/nov-747-full.jpg
14:49<Thedarkb>Alberth, There used to be a server 3.
14:49<Thedarkb>It was vanilla with FIRS.
14:50<supermop_>Thedarkb: Openttd.org does not run any game servers
14:52<Thedarkb>Is this not the subreddit's chat?
14:52<Wolf01>No
14:52<Thedarkb>Oh,
14:52<Thedarkb>thought it was.
14:52<Wolf01>This is the official ottd chat
14:52<Thedarkb>Oh shit, yeah, they moved to discord.
14:52<ST2>type /join #/r/openttd
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14:55<Thedarkb>Oh yeah, that's the one.
14:55<Wolf01>andythenorth: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZg4gY6_460s.jpg
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15:07<andythenorth>Wolf01: pretty accurate
15:08<andythenorth>so basically, at all tiers so far, it's a dice roll whether you get a good team or not
15:08<andythenorth>mostly, good team = win
15:08<andythenorth>bad team = lose
15:08<andythenorth>two good teams is rare, and interesting
15:08<Wolf01>There is plain deathmatch?
15:09<andythenorth>it's all 7-against-7 afaict
15:09<andythenorth>there might be other modes for clans
15:09<Wolf01>:(
15:09<andythenorth>I'm playing non-clan random play
15:09<andythenorth>online MP is a whole new world for andythenorth :P
15:10<Wolf01>I only play coop vs AI or deathmatch
15:10<andythenorth>I never played anything like quake arena
15:10<Wolf01>(when ping allows me to play)
15:11*andythenorth played a lot of LAN tournament games, but that's with known people :)
15:12<Wolf01>I played Q3A a lot, I wasn't a pro but I knew how to rocket jump
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15:30<V453000>team games can get really fucked up due to those things andythenorth
15:30<andythenorth>it's pretty much a dice roll
15:30<V453000>and at the same time that jackpot moment when you have a great team and great opponents is so awesome to experience, but it's so rare I feel like it's basically gambling with yourself
15:30<andythenorth>quite similar to playing roulette in vegas
15:31<andythenorth>the time of day seems to matter
15:31<andythenorth>every game I played this morning had good players
15:31<V453000>it even happened to me that I was basically playing some heroes of newerth back in the day for several hours straight, sometimes literally the whole day, just going from shitty game to another, just to eventually realize that I'm not really enjoying playing it
15:31<Wolf01>Kiddos are at school
15:31<andythenorth>V453000 wondering when same will happen to me :)
15:31<andythenorth>it's just a kind of gambling :)
15:32<andythenorth>but learning the tank skills is fun
15:32<V453000>eventually I started watching professional matches which basically provided me with the ultimate level of complexity and interesting level, but removed the sad parts
15:32<V453000>ofc it's not your own involvement but it was good
15:32<andythenorth>Wolf01: now it's Euro evening, it's much worse again :P
15:32<V453000>haha yeah
15:32<andythenorth>I've only been playing since Saturday, but already the noob moves are pissing me off :P
15:33<andythenorth>when you've play a map 60 times and you know some tactics are flawed on it :P
15:33<V453000>:D
15:33<V453000>right
15:33<V453000>I saw world of tanks once being played
15:33<V453000>all the people lined up behind each other for some reason
15:34<V453000>they continued being in some formation for the next 20 minutes
15:34<V453000>one team won
15:34<V453000>I closed the video :D
15:34<V453000>was pro match allegedly
15:34<andythenorth>there are good and bad lines
15:34<andythenorth>noobies form lemming lines
15:34<andythenorth>leaving all flanks exposed and not covering each other
15:35<V453000>:D k
15:35<andythenorth>when you see a lemming line at game start, there's nothing to do but wait for your game to be lost
15:35<andythenorth>then your win rate goes down :P
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15:38<V453000>:D
15:38<V453000>I always fought my games to the very end
15:38<V453000>it's debatable which approach makes you hate it more :D
15:47<supermop_>reminds me of playing bf42 with people running the carrier aground
15:48<supermop_>no one repairing your tank
15:48<supermop_>someone driver the destroyer off the map
15:48<debdog>oh noes, do not remind me... battlelog.co is about to shut down
15:49<Wolf01>And starcraft 2 is about to become F2P
15:49<supermop_>call in in artillery as a scout - no one is in the artillery
15:49<supermop_>sit in the artillery - no one is calling in strikes
15:51<supermop_>sit in the back of a dive bomber - pilot flies the plane CFIT
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15:51<supermop_>spawn on the carrier, someone else launches the landing craft without any passengers and you have to swim to shore
15:52<supermop_>was still a lot of fun
15:52<+glx>but should be way more fun with real coop
15:53<supermop_>also occasionally would have a good tank game on one of the north africa maps
15:53<supermop_>where you'd get a column of 4 or so tanks with engineers and everyone working together
15:54<Alkel_U3>I hear Nuclear Dawn is nice to play. Has relatively small userbase of mostly competent people on average
15:54<supermop_>never had a good cooperative game in bfv
15:54<supermop_>also i kept crashing the migs
15:54<supermop_>but the music was goo
15:54<supermop_>d
15:56<supermop_>bfbc i got really good with the 40mm grenades
15:56<supermop_>chasing after some badge
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16:52<V453000> No, I'm banned from the NewGRF wiki.
16:52<V453000>_
16:52<V453000>?
16:53<V453000>andythenorth: ? :D
16:53<andythenorth>yeah
16:53<andythenorth>dunno why
16:54<frosch123>V453000: probably because of the :) in your username
16:56<V453000>well I'm not banned from anywhere
16:56<V453000>except simuscape
16:56<V453000>huehuehue
16:58<frosch123>also, i am at 15% faster, and there is still more potential
16:58<V453000>:0
16:58<V453000>sick
17:01<andythenorth>\o/
17:01<andythenorth>more battery life?
17:01<andythenorth>o_O
17:01<Wolf01>'night
17:01<V453000>I go as well
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17:01<V453000>gnight
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17:06<Samu>i can't visualize these movement in my head
17:06<Samu>airport movements
17:06<Samu>too complex for me
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