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10:46<Samu>@calc 4294967295 + 1
10:46<@DorpsGek>Samu: 4294967296
10:46<Samu>u sure?
10:46<Samu>i got 0 :(
10:46<supermop>wut
10:52<Samu>@calc 0xffffffff + 1
10:52<@DorpsGek>Samu: 4294967296
10:52<LordAro>Samu: fairly sure DorpsGek does not use 32bit integers
10:52<crem>@calc 0xffffffffffffffff + 1
10:52<@DorpsGek>crem: 18446744073709551616
10:53<crem>@calc 0xffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff + 1
10:53<@DorpsGek>crem: 411376139330301510538742295639337626245683966408394965837152256
10:53<LordAro>yeah, supybot is python
10:53<LordAro>so arbitrary size
10:53<LordAro>(ish)
10:53<crem>@calc 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ** 0xffff
10:53<@DorpsGek>crem: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
10:53<LordAro>lol
10:53<crem>@calc 1.79769313486e+308 + 1
10:53<@DorpsGek>crem: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
10:54<LordAro>@calc (1 << (1 << (1 << 10)))
10:54<@DorpsGek>LordAro: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
10:54<LordAro>@calc 1 << 10
10:54<@DorpsGek>LordAro: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
10:54<LordAro>@calc 1 ** (1 ** 10)
10:54<@DorpsGek>LordAro: 1
10:54<LordAro>er
10:54<LordAro>shh
10:55<crem>@calc 10 ** 308
10:55<@DorpsGek>crem: 100000000000000001097906362944045541740492309677311846336810682903157585404911491537163328978494688899061249669721172515611590283743140088328307009198146046031271664502933027185697489699588559043338384466165001178426897626212945177628091195786707458122783970171784415105291802893207873272974885715430223118336
10:56<crem>@calc 10 ** 309
10:56<@DorpsGek>crem: Error: The answer exceeded 1.79769313486e+308 or so.
10:56<crem>I thought 10 ** 308 should be a round number though.
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10:58<crem>@calc 10000000000000000 - 1
10:58<@DorpsGek>crem: 10000000000000000
10:59<LordAro>crem: max double size
11:00<crem>Yes I understand, but if it's python, why doesn't it use arbitrary size integers. Python does not fail on the same examples.
11:00<LordAro>so it doesn't
11:00<LordAro>depends how supybot implements it
11:01<LordAro>probably not just doing "10**308" in python
11:02<LordAro>@version
11:02<@DorpsGek>LordAro: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
11:03<LordAro>https://github.com/Supybot/Supybot/blob/master/plugins/Math/plugin.py#L154
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11:05<Samu>why is debug mode so terribly slow at generating a 4kx4k map?
11:05<LordAro>probably because debug mode
11:05<LordAro>and 4kx4k
11:07<Samu>trying to test if my friendly river doesn't bug out, so decided to try that size
11:08<Samu>it's already past river generation, didn't assert, so far so good, let's hope that everything is connected now
11:15<Samu>it is a good things that rivers are generated before towns
11:15<Samu>thing*
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11:26<Samu>aww crap, i found an issue
11:29<Samu>river junctions are not properly dealt with, hmm how am i gonna fix this
11:29<Samu>when a river joins another
11:30<Samu>seems to be a very rare occurence, but it happened, hmm :(
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11:48<Samu>damn, how am i gonna detect a "yet-to-be-a-lock" tile
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13:43<andythenorth>o/
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13:47<Eddi|zuHause>@calc 09*012
13:47<@DorpsGek>Eddi|zuHause: 90
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13:48<Eddi|zuHause>cute :p
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13:50<frosch123>@calc 0F*15
13:50<@DorpsGek>frosch123: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
13:51<frosch123>aw
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15:07<stefino>hi. if I'm trying to code houses and it wrote in graphics block that "Directly referring to sprite sets is not possible for feature 07" what does it mean? Code here https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p7xakrcyw , thanks
15:14<frosch123>https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Spritelayout <- for houses, industry tiles and objects you need to use that
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15:19<stefino>oh :) okay, try to do that :) and maybe one question. I use some parts of code from Polish building set and he has here "switch_houses_cargo_type_accept", what is in graphics block too. But nml says that "Callback results are limited to -16384..16383 for signed number and 0..32767 fr unsigned number. Nml encountered 34515. What I have to change? O.o
15:23<Eddi|zuHause>difficult to say without the code
15:32<stefino>code is above....https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p7xakrcyw
15:33<frosch123>you need to put the cargo labels PASS, MAIL, FOOD and GOOD to the front of your cargotabler
15:34<frosch123>they must be within the first 32 items
15:34<frosch123>"cargo_type_accept" can only return a selection of the first 32
15:34<stefino>oh
15:36<stefino>okay, it works :) now let's go change spriteset into spritelayout :)
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16:29<andythenorth>such cat
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17:02<Samu>it is soo hard to work with an imaginary lock
17:03<Samu>if i build locks everywhere, things become easier to deal with, but ultimately, I don't wanna have locks there, I just have to imagine they're there...
17:03<Samu>I'm coding for an imaginary lock
17:03<Samu>am I insane?
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19:19<Samu>@calc 14/8196
19:19<@DorpsGek>Samu: 0.00170815031723
19:21<Samu>that's an incredibly low chance
19:21<Samu>something's fishy...
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