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| 03:14 | <CTZen> | HELLO, Question: I can see some servers in "openttd.org/en/servers" with many players, I add their IP but inside game it shows them offline. can i join them? |
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| 04:14 | <PressureLine> | andy: tanks server? |
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| 04:20 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
| 04:20 | <PressureLine> | \o |
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| 04:31 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
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| 04:54 | <andythenorth> | yo |
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| 05:11 | <PressureLine> | <PressureLine> andy: tanks server? |
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| 05:21 | <andythenorth> | I'm playing World of Tanks Blitz |
| 05:21 | <andythenorth> | it's just random games |
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| 06:13 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
| 06:14 | <@Alberth> | winnable for 50% of the time :) |
| 06:17 | <andythenorth> | 45% :P |
| 06:17 | <andythenorth> | more if you're good |
| 06:17 | <andythenorth> | I'm not |
| 06:18 | <Eddi|zuHause> | als long as both sides have the same number of players, the average should be at 50% :p |
| 06:19 | <@Alberth> | it's not pure luck, apparently :p |
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| 06:50 | <Wolf01> | I don't play games with chance to win lower than 66% :P |
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| 07:37 | <andythenorth> | some players are better |
| 07:37 | <andythenorth> | and some are paying |
| 07:37 | <andythenorth> | paying = stacked deck |
| 07:37 | <andythenorth> | by about 1-3% |
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| 08:55 | <andythenorth> | so tanks or openttd? |
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| 09:56 | <andythenorth> | how do I get a python environment with nml? |
| 09:56 | <andythenorth> | when the user is not an administrator? (no sudo) |
| 09:56 | <andythenorth> | it seems to be totally impossible, but must be possible :) |
| 09:57 | <Eddi|zuHause> | huh? why would you need to be admin? |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | how else to install into /usr ? |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | or some other crap |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | I dunno, I usually do this differently |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | don't install it? |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | I usually build python in my user dir, and have everything local |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | but this user can't do that |
| 09:58 | <Eddi|zuHause> | unpack it into your home, and put the executable into ~/bin or something |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | I have to sudo, which means it goes system wide |
| 09:58 | <andythenorth> | it's ass backwards |
| 09:59 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i don't understand your problem |
| 09:59 | <andythenorth> | trying to give a 7 year old nml tools |
| 09:59 | <andythenorth> | he's on a locked down user |
| 09:59 | <andythenorth> | the only way I can use package managers is to su to my user |
| 10:00 | <andythenorth> | which then assumes my environment |
| 10:00 | <andythenorth> | total PITA |
| 10:00 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so your problem is you don't understand user management? |
| 10:00 | <andythenorth> | yes |
| 10:00 | <andythenorth> | I never have to engage with it |
| 10:01 | <andythenorth> | I am admin, and I avoid installing things system wide, where possible |
| 10:01 | <Eddi|zuHause> | so "locked down" means can't run programs from home dir? |
| 10:01 | <andythenorth> | can't even find a home dir |
| 10:01 | <andythenorth> | it's Apple restrictions |
| 10:02 | <andythenorth> | I thought I just install the python binary from python website |
| 10:02 | <andythenorth> | t |
| 10:02 | <andythenorth> | then virtualenv and install packages |
| 10:02 | <andythenorth> | but no |
| 10:03 | <Eddi|zuHause> | i don't know the apple way of doing things, but i think you should build/install stuff globally, and have the restricted user access it |
| 10:04 | <andythenorth> | ach |
| 10:04 | <andythenorth> | now I've got all the TLS failures |
| 10:05 | <andythenorth> | I give up |
| 10:05 | <andythenorth> | the user is configured so that every url has to be whitelisted by admin |
| 10:06 | <andythenorth> | and the python tools appear to be older broken ones that have the non-working SSL stuff |
| 10:06 | <andythenorth> | and devzone http is also broken for ~everyone |
| 10:06 | <andythenorth> | it's a shit show :) |
| 10:07 | <V453000> | excuse for purchasing tanks :P http://www.bunicomic.com/comic/buni-1054/ |
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| 10:20 | <V453000> | how much $ did it cost so far? :P |
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| 10:25 | <andythenorth> | python? nothing, just pain |
| 10:25 | <andythenorth> | tanks cost about £25 |
| 10:26 | <andythenorth> | got a working python3 now |
| 10:26 | <andythenorth> | but virtualenv is broken next |
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| 10:30 | <andythenorth> | got python deps, now running nml tests :P |
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| 10:30 | <andythenorth> | buildout.python remains useful |
| 10:30 | <andythenorth> | the nml on pip is python2 |
| 10:30 | <andythenorth> | maybe we could update that? o_O |
| 10:31 | <andythenorth> | planetmaker: ? ^ |
| 10:32 | <Eddi|zuHause> | there's pip2 and pip3 |
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| 10:39 | <frosch123> | https://paste.openttdcoop.org/phizsmaeo?/phizsmaeo <- looks like a nicer fix for fs#6639 |
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| 11:07 | <andythenorth> | o_O |
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| 11:22 | <andythenorth> | got a working nml :P |
| 11:22 | <Samu> | sup andy |
| 11:22 | <Samu> | did u work on river generation? |
| 11:22 | <V453000> | how did you not have nml? :D new computer? |
| 11:22 | <Samu> | the pathfinder part of it? |
| 11:23 | <andythenorth> | V453000: locked down account for 7 year old |
| 11:23 | <andythenorth> | he needs nml |
| 11:23 | <frosch123> | andy needs more time for tanks, so he passes firs to the next generation |
| 11:24 | <V453000> | :DDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 11:24 | <andythenorth> | he's drawing trains |
| 11:24 | * | andythenorth can't work out if openttd is finally dead or not |
| 11:24 | <andythenorth> | I imagine not |
| 11:25 | <V453000> | it isn't |
| 11:25 | <Samu> | it's not dead, i'm here :p |
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| 11:50 | <@DorpsGek> | Commit by frosch :: r27932 trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp (2017-11-25 17:50:28 +0100 ) |
| 11:50 | <@DorpsGek> | -Fix (r0) [FS#6639]: Forest, candyfloss forest and battery farm skipped the first animation frame. |
| 12:00 | <LordAro> | amazing |
| 12:03 | <Samu> | oh! a fix :) nice |
| 12:03 | <frosch123> | hmm, it was longer broken than it worked :p |
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| 12:03 | <frosch123> | 1995-2004 worked, 2004-2017 broken |
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| 12:08 | <frosch123> | o/ |
| 12:08 | <@Alberth> | moin |
| 12:19 | <Samu> | my first recursive function :) |
| 12:19 | <Samu> | let's see if it doesn't lock the game |
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| 13:17 | <Samu> | grr, i'm having trouble detecting map edges |
| 13:18 | <Samu> | moving from tile to tile can sometimes put myself in a tile outside the map |
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| 13:18 | <Samu> | i was just trying to MakeRiver on a tile outside |
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| 14:18 | <Samu> | https://imgur.com/DD6mOgi |
| 14:18 | <Samu> | that was intense |
| 14:18 | <Samu> | but everything's connected |
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| 16:39 | <Samu> | how do i work with tiles on the edge without going into the void tiles? :( |
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| 23:04 | <PressureLine> | ehh |
| 23:04 | <PressureLine> | being horsepower-limited is such a pain |
| 23:21 | <PressureLine> | If I double-head I'll need 11 trains on this route. |
| 23:21 | <PressureLine> | triple-head and I can do it with 8 :/ |
| 23:27 | <PressureLine> | or just double-head with a more capable engine i guess |
| --- | Log | closed Sun Nov 26 00:00:39 2017 |