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10:13<drac_boy>hi .. and not to be silly but, as usual any interesting grf related news atm? ;)
10:13<drac_boy>heh
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10:43<drac_boy>hallo breckett. hows your weather in germany?
10:44<Breckett>hi
10:44<Breckett>dark xD
10:44<Breckett>mostly cloudy
10:49<drac_boy>mm any snowing tho?
10:50<drac_boy>its totally cloudy here today anyhow..can't even see any sign of sun
10:50<drac_boy>(and its 10:51 now)
10:53<RafiX>what the heck, it's 8*C here
10:53<drac_boy>rafix heh :-)
10:53<RafiX>I want snow back.. ;-;
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10:58<Breckett_>drac_boy: yes, a little snow
10:58<Breckett_>but almost gone now ... http://www.augsburg.de/fileadmin/user_upload/header/webcam/webcamdachspitz/B_Rathausplatz_Dachspitz_00.jpg
10:58<Breckett_>got a webcam too?
11:00<drac_boy>mm no but I can tell you almost everything except well-salted road/sidewalk are covered in 1-3inch of snow and/or slush ... talk about a crazy first-day winter thing here
11:00<drac_boy>:)
11:01<RafiX>hmm, let's try to do company with cars only
11:01<drac_boy>cars? not trucks?
11:01<RafiX>trucks*
11:01<RafiX>I need a coffee first
11:01<RafiX>brb
11:02<drac_boy>(or lorries, whatever your language would be)
11:02<drac_boy>heh ok :)
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11:11*drac_boy pokes rafix with an empty mug just for humour
11:12<RafiX>drac_boy: I have a full mug of coffee now
11:12<drac_boy>good :p
11:13<drac_boy>rafix so are you basically talking about a railless game right?
11:13<RafiX>yea
11:14<drac_boy>rafix mm which grf or you haven't decided how to start such game for the first time yet?
11:14<RafiX>I have Polish Road Set v5
11:16<drac_boy>mm don't recognize that one but if it has lorry and tractor included .. maybe some bendy buses too .. sounds like you'll probably have a good time :-)
11:18<drac_boy>rafix just one optional thought if you are actually making the map .. go with something rectangular shaped (like eg 1024x256 or you know?) and not too much mountains or deep water
11:18<drac_boy>thats one easy way to have just one or two "highways" with the branches off it having just a few easy curves if any at all
11:19<drac_boy>(nothing like 8+ curves in one single trip making a truck somewhat depressing to use with its constant loss of top speed heh)
11:20<drac_boy>rafix but anyhow have fun with whatever you do with your game ok? ;)
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11:24<RafiX>drac_boy: well I'm doing that for fun
11:24<drac_boy>rafix yeah np :)
11:24<drac_boy>btw have you heard of HEQS? the tramful grf yes
11:25<RafiX>I haven't tried much grfs
11:25<RafiX>only this Polish Road Set and Polish PKP Trains
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11:28<drac_boy>rafix ah ok well there was that one or few (I can't recall as its been a long time ago) times I was in an online gmae and as it was a relatively smooth map (no heavy mountains) with one of the few grfs being HEQS I end up doing something a little silly.. run a 100%-trams-only company ;)
11:28<drac_boy>you had to see these many trams slowly running past the farm, etca heh
11:30<drac_boy>of course the one slight problem was...trams are not easy to route so had to carefully lay dedicated lines with no interaction to avoid 20 coal trams mashing up into a jam with 20 farm trams tho
11:32<drac_boy>either way rafix it was interesting talking but I have to go now re lunch and more sorry .. hopefully you're around another time to talk about polish grfs if you don't mind that ok? :)
11:32<RafiX>why not
11:32<drac_boy>ty and bye for now ;)
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11:34<LordAro>drac_boy should learn what tab-complete is
11:35<RafiX>well some people don't know about it
11:35<LordAro>hence why they should learn :p
11:39<RafiX>well I tried to teach one entire channel how to use tab-complete
11:40<RafiX>they decided that it's better to not use it
11:40<LordAro>how weird
11:41<Thedarkb>Do you think OpenTTD will run in 128mb ram?
11:41<Thedarkb>I impulse bought a cheap thinkpad.
11:41<Thedarkb>I'm going to install BunsenLabs on it.
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11:42<RafiX>Thedarkb: on linux OpenTTD 1.7.1 uses 171MB of RAM with 128x256 map, so I don't think it will
11:43<RafiX>maybe the win9x version
11:43<@peter1138>You bought something with only 128MB on it?
11:43<RafiX>well there are people that like old laptops
11:43<Thedarkb>Yeah.
11:43<LordAro>there's "cheap thinkpad" and there's "cheap thinkpad from the 90s"
11:44<Thedarkb>I put an SSD in it.
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11:44<RafiX>tfw my friend used Thinkpad with P3 and 512MB till 2015
11:44<Thedarkb>I'm still on an X200
11:45<Thedarkb>I have 8GB RAM though.
11:45<Thedarkb>The mobo claims it only supports 4, but the docs are lying.
11:45<Thedarkb>I wonder how much I could put in that X40
11:46<Thedarkb>I do plan on dual booting BunsenLabs and Windows 98 so the 9x version will probably be the best bet.
11:46<LordAro>with 128MB, i'd be surprised if it's even DDR
11:46<LordAro>let alone anything remotely modern
11:46<RafiX>I actually use HP desktop, because I'm broke
11:46<RafiX>4GB of RAM
11:46<Thedarkb>DDR, 333mhz
11:46<RafiX>ahh, DDR
11:46<Thedarkb>1.25GB max supported.
11:46<Thedarkb>Pentium M
11:47<RafiX>I have a laptop with SDRAM still
11:47<RafiX>Pentium II based Celeron, 333MHz
11:47<Thedarkb>It only has one RAM slot though.
11:47<Thedarkb>It's empty on mine, but there's some on the Mobo
11:48<Thedarkb>It's also got WiFi and a thinklight.
11:48<Thedarkb>I can't use it at the moment because I broke the charger.
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11:49<RafiX>will road vehicle refit when replacing?
11:50<Thedarkb>Yeah, I think they do.
11:50<RafiX>hmm, I have money but it says that replace failed because of money limit
11:50<RafiX>is it because of debt?
11:51<Thedarkb>There's a lower cash limit you have to set.
11:51<Thedarkb>It might be in the options, I'm not sure.
11:51<Thedarkb>I haven't played in a while.
11:52<RafiX>oh
11:52<RafiX>thanks Thedarkb
11:52<RafiX>that's why I got problems before..
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13:10<RafiX>damn, I made nearly 10 millions of pounds
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14:02<drac_boy>sorry but while doing some notes I was just wondering (seeing I never did get deep into roadvehicle's that much) .. does cargo refit also handle livery changes too?
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14:17<drac_boy>hi frosch anything interesting for you as usual? ;-) heh
14:22<frosch123>it's not friday
14:22<frosch123>friday is usually interesting
14:22<drac_boy>heh fair enough :-p
14:22<drac_boy>sadly its not even wednesday yet here either (mid-week) :-s
14:23<frosch123>wed is also 3.5 hours away here
14:23<frosch123>though wed noon may be more middleish
14:23<drac_boy>mm its only 14:26 here :-/
14:24<drac_boy>so anyway interesting or not interesting what're you doing aside to irc tho?
14:25<frosch123>pondering between sweet coffee and sweet whippet cookies
14:26<drac_boy>heh I would had taken the cookie but I think you'll have to decide for yourself tho :-)
14:26<RafiX>tfw playing openTTD all day
14:27<frosch123>https://www.koehler-kuesse.de/deutsch/fabrikverkauf-k%C3%B6hlerk%C3%BCsse/k%C3%B6hlerk%C3%BCsse-sortiment/ <- if you want some pictures
14:27<RafiX>am I getting addicted
14:27<frosch123>it's a local factory
14:27<drac_boy>rafix maybe
14:28<RafiX>playing nonstop for 3 hours rn
14:28<RafiX>started at 1950
14:28<RafiX>it's 2008
14:29*drac_boy has always started 1920 for as long as I can ever remember?
14:29<drac_boy>:)
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14:29<RafiX>I forgot to change it
14:29<drac_boy>heh fair enough yeah theres that
14:30<RafiX>also I don't think there are road vehicles in grf I use in 1920
14:31<drac_boy>ah hm good point .. I've never really noticed any omission in 1920 here .. other than for tiny choice of planes
14:33<drac_boy>anyway frosch and rafix have fun one way or another..I need to afk for a few hours again
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14:33<RafiX>bye
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15:14<CTZen>happy?
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15:22<V453000>Yo humans
15:22<V453000>I iz on iPad :D
15:22<Wolf01>o/
15:23<frosch123>you can sit on it?
15:24<Wolf01>I heard you can use it as a scale
15:24<V453000>Yeah
15:24<V453000>It’s amazing I must admit
15:25<RafiX>can you run openttd on it
15:30<V453000>No :)
15:31<V453000>But you can draw newgrfs on it!
15:36<V453000>frosch123: I wanted to go to the party but it’s already fulll which saved me :D
15:36<Wolf01>You can draw F too on it?
15:36<V453000>Ish, yes
15:36<Wolf01>Fish?
15:36<V453000>Theoretically yes but practically not so sure, the results might be too different ... or I just need to learn working with it better
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15:37<V453000>I have it mostly just for newgrfs being drawn in places where I don’t have desktop
15:37<V453000>Already downloading monument valley for scientific purposes though
15:39<Wolf01>The bad part about a different ecosystem is to purchase again almost all the things
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15:40<Wolf01>That's why I won't switch to android/apple if my phone will die in the future
15:40<V453000>Well what would you need to repurchase?
15:40<Wolf01>Games, some softwares I use
15:41<Wolf01>For example I won't buy minecraft again, I already purchased it twice
15:41<V453000>Well that’s always a problem yes :) I’m just curious to learn to work with this simply because the hardware is so nice
15:41<V453000>Haha
15:42<V453000>The pencil with the screen, procreate, battery life and weight of the whole thing are just incredible
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15:46<RafiX>I heard that some iPads are great for drawing with some pen
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15:53<Wolf01>http://steam250.com/ nice, F is at 6th place
15:53<Eddi|zuHause>why would you need to buy minecraft twice? it's java...
15:54<Wolf01>Eh, try to run java on a phone
15:54<RafiX>j2me
15:55<Wolf01>Yes, try to run java minecraft on a phone... it's already difficult to run it fine on a pc
15:55<RafiX>why even play minecrat
15:55<RafiX>minecraft*
15:56<Wolf01>Because I like it
15:56<RafiX>danb
15:56<RafiX>damn*
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>why even play anything?
15:56<RafiX>why even play openttd
15:56<RafiX>jk openttd is best game
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17:22<Wolf01>'night
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18:46<drac_boy>hi
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19:03*drac_boy stares at flygon
19:09<drac_boy>so anyway any road vehicle drawers in here?
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20:10<drac_boy>mm going off for tonight here :)
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