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04:39<Wolf01>Moin
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04:58<@Alberth>moin, bbl
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05:07<andythenorth>o/
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07:14<Wolf01>Good guy wube software ltd patching factorio on saturday morning
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07:18<Wolf01>Quak
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07:20<frosch123>moi
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08:30<@Alberth>o/
08:31<andythenorth>HI
08:31<andythenorth>hi
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08:54<Wolf01>o/
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09:46<Samu>Scrollto <insert town name>
09:46<Samu>should work
09:49<supermop>hello
09:49<Samu>hi
09:49<@Alberth>o/
09:49<supermop>have spent the last couple weeks without irc at work
09:49<@Alberth>there is no "location" button in a town window?
09:50<@Alberth>oh dear, now you had to do actual work? :p
09:51<supermop>Albertheven less work than usual
09:51<@Alberth>not sure why anyone would want to scroll to a town, as there is nothing of interest there, except some insane city counsil
09:51<Samu>or maybe make the ai debug window clickable
09:52<Samu>it is says a town name, let me click on it to scroll to it
09:52<andythenorth>I should play OTTD
09:52<Samu>if it says an industry name, it scrolls to it, etc
09:52<@Alberth>ai debug window is not interesting
09:52<@Alberth>inline chat would be
09:52<supermop>I gave my notice to quit on the 5th, so I wanted to make my computer as clean as possible, in case boss fired me on th espot when I told him i would be leaving
09:52<andythenorth>did he?
09:53<supermop>andythenorth unfortunately no, so I've had to work th etwo weeks
09:53<@Alberth>apparently not, or he wouldn't be without irc at work :p
09:53<andythenorth>:P
09:54<supermop>but the annoying china project that was taking up so much time that I felt he would fire me for leaving got put on hold the same day I gave notice
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09:54<drac_boy>hi
09:54<@Alberth>o/
09:54<supermop>that is, he had said, no one can take any holiday/vacation in December because of deadline for this project
09:55<drac_boy>hi alberth want any fresh snow? heh
09:55<@Alberth>not really
09:55<drac_boy>np its been picking up here..guess its real winter now anyhow
09:55<supermop>so saying i was going to quit a couple weeks before the deadline I feared would piss him off to the point of just firing me
09:55*drac_boy is working on my trackign table for the grf but has little else to say otherwise :)
09:56<drac_boy>supermop ic not someone I would had wanted to work for if it was me :-s
09:56*andythenorth bbl
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09:56<Wolf01>Mmmh, need to reinstall OTTD on ubuntu
09:56<supermop>well that's why I quit, I had an offer to work somewhere I actually would want to work
09:57<supermop>unfortunately, I had already decided to not join my wife on her trip to Vietnam next week, because I thought I would not be able to take time off work
09:57<supermop>now I will have the time off, but it is too late to buy a ticket there
09:57<drac_boy>:-|
09:58<supermop>at least cannot buy an affordable one
09:58<supermop>I looked last week and the cheapest was $2500 for a 54 hour itinerary via Ukraine
09:59<drac_boy>supermop that sounds like one of these "curse me if I don't, curse me if I do!" paradox
09:59<drac_boy>that is not bought ticket due to still working but...ehh yeah :-s
09:59<@Alberth>christmas time is expensive to travel
10:00<supermop>indeed. wife bought her ticket in like august
10:00<drac_boy>alberth hm is it? I never really noticed it or maybe its because I don't go to huge locations
10:00<supermop>now i will be paying $500 to fly to a small boring city in the midwest
10:00<supermop>where it normally costs about 200 to fly too
10:01*drac_boy actually bought a $26 one-way fare for ottawa>london rail in december last year just as footnote
10:01<@Alberth>half the world wants to spend the christmas days near family in the other half of the world :p
10:01<supermop>and hanging out with my mom and dad in their house instead of with my wife and her sister in vietnam and thailand
10:02<Eddi|zuHause>supermop: you could try a ship and be there in 2 weeks :p
10:02<supermop>the food, weather, and beaches in Ohio are not quite as nice as in Thailand
10:03<Eddi|zuHause>supermop: or you could try hopping the cheapest planes that roughly go in that direction, with 10 stopovers :p
10:03<supermop>Eddi|zuHause that sounds competitive with the flight with a layover in Kiev
10:03<Eddi|zuHause>2 weeks might be optimistic for ship
10:04<supermop>very few lines do a regular NYC - Ha Noi container ship
10:04<supermop>;)
10:04<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, but that takes more like 2 months :p
10:04<@Rubidium>flying on christmas and on new years eve is generally fairly cheap
10:05<supermop>Rubidium unfortunately wife and her family are on a boat in middle of Lan Ha bay on Christmas itself, so landing then doesn't help much
10:05<Eddi|zuHause>and you can't spend 2 days in vietnam by yourself until you catch up with them?
10:06<supermop>probably can - Ha Noi is my favorite place in the world for food
10:06<supermop>but i've already resigned myself to hanging out in the suburbs this year
10:07<supermop>brother also just got married so I guess it would be polite to hang out with him and his wife too
10:07<Eddi|zuHause>well, whatever, i don't really have the desire to go anywhere at all...
10:07<supermop>Germany seems like it would nice anywhere
10:07<supermop>with markets etc
10:08<supermop>lately many American cities try to set up german style Christmas markets in parks and squares
10:10<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, it seems those are spreading a bit throughout the world
10:11<Wolf01>Again, how do I install the .deb on ubuntu? I forgot everything about the last time -.-
10:11<Wolf01>IIRC I should add it to dpkg
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10:11<Eddi|zuHause>never installed anything on ubuntu, sorry
10:11<drac_boy>anyway not to interrupt but can you have like <loco-Aend&wagon>anythinghere<loco-Bend> or is the spec limited enough that it has to be only <locoA>anythinghere<locoB> rather?
10:11<drac_boy>wolf01 doesn't they have a wiki? just asking
10:12<Wolf01>Yes, openttd wiki, but last time I had some problems doing it
10:12<Eddi|zuHause>generally, it should be "<packagemanager> install <filename>", but sometimes you need special parameters to override the system repositories
10:12<drac_boy>wolf01 umm ottd isn't ubuntu? ;-)
10:12<Wolf01>Not the 1.7.1 / 1.7.2-rc1
10:15*drac_boy just want to know if I should make a fixed trainset or I can have semi-expandable ones for this table :-/
10:16<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: surely there must be some less official repos with 1.7.1
10:17<Wolf01>Found the old logs, installing :P
10:18<Eddi|zuHause>hm, for opensuse there's a "home:openttdcoop" repo that offers 1.4.3
10:18<Eddi|zuHause>that seems a bit not-very-well-maintained :p
10:19<Wolf01>Mmmh it didn't install the dependencies
10:19<drac_boy>and whos the author? could be he didn't have the time for it anymore
10:19<drac_boy>(depending on the date of the repo in question that is)
10:19<Eddi|zuHause>well, that's like 3 years ago
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10:22<drac_boy>hm just going ignore the user and make fixed trainsets for now
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10:28<Wolf01>Pffff need to upgrade half of the packages
10:32<Wolf01>Oh, they added snaps
10:34<drac_boy>anyway correct me if I'm wrong (related to RL) but these certain cars in europe that look like vertical cylinders with tapered or dome top .. they're called silo cars right?
10:40<@Alberth>better compile the source :)
10:45<Wolf01>Clicking randomly on the sdl window, unable to read anything... I hope I triggered the download of the graphics XD
10:46<Wolf01>Ok, it worked
10:52<drac_boy>:-p heh?
10:52<Wolf01>https://imgur.com/a/g5QPb
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10:55<Wolf01>Now, if only they added an xserver
10:56<@Alberth>put in ~/.openttd :)
10:57<Wolf01>vcxsrv or Xming ?
10:59<@Alberth>openttd graphics
11:00<@Alberth>don't know about x servers, mine comes standard, as I run linux natively
11:00<Wolf01>:P
11:02*drac_boy doesn't have x .. yet :)
11:02<Wolf01>As always sourceforge doesn't work
11:03<RafiX>damn it, it's so cold there
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11:08<drac_boy>wolf01 just curious but which gpu you using? (re having x11)
11:09<Wolf01>780GTX
11:11<drac_boy>mm mine's a soc so its a small embedded gpu .. but runs sdl-svga among others pretty well tho
11:23*drac_boy is still waiting for early janurary gpu news hopefully as a sidenote
11:24<Wolf01>https://imgur.com/BQY5wTz yeah
11:26<drac_boy>hmm that reminds me...
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11:36<drac_boy>hmm seem theres not much readme for ottd-allegro (at least in last few years)
11:36*drac_boy wonders if I should maybe try test that and see what to report for 2017 build
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11:42<drac_boy>anyway rafix have fun today ok? I'm going off for lunch and some more :)
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13:19<Wolf01>Mmmh forum has a bit of spam
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13:45<Eddi|zuHause>yeah, noticed that too
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