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04:33<peter1138>o_O
04:40<__ln__>exactly
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12:18<Borg>finaly... -R chmode
12:18<Borg>not everyone registers nick...
12:18<Borg>spam attack or what?
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13:14<LordAro>Borg: there was, a few days ago
13:14<LordAro>frosch123: can probably disable it now
13:14<LordAro>/glx
13:14<+glx>I already removed +R
13:20<__ln__>well done
13:40<Borg>geez...
13:40<Borg>weird.. IRC spam these days...
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27945 trunk/src/lang/spanish_MX.txt (2017-12-20 19:45:39 +0100 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>spanish (mexican): 3 changes by Absay
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14:16<Wolf01>o/
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14:17<andythenorth>hi
14:20<frosch123>cat tank
14:21<Wolf01>o/
14:21<Wolf01>Mmmh, win10 redstone4 looks interesting
14:23<andythenorth>innit
14:23<andythenorth>now alternating SV and tank game
14:24<frosch123>which cargo was the goal in your steeltown game?
14:24<frosch123>steel?
14:24<andythenorth>vehicles
14:25<andythenorth>pretty much end-tier cargo
14:25<andythenorth>actually no it was electrical machines
14:25<andythenorth>child # is playing steeltown SV with vehicles
14:25<RafiX>don't use windows 10
14:25<andythenorth>#1
14:25<andythenorth>he saw my game and wanted the same
14:25<frosch123>i would probably have restarted the game until i get steel
14:26<andythenorth>I wondered if we have a UI widget for 'choose cargo' :P
14:26<andythenorth>I restarted ~50 games
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14:31<frosch123>hmm, there is probably a tool to log the memory usage of a process over time
14:31<andythenorth>probably :P
14:31<andythenorth>my OS does it
14:33<frosch123>people seem to just write shell or python scripts
14:39<Wolf01>I hate xmas :|
14:40<Wolf01>Xmas shit in every game
14:40<Eddi|zuHause>i just don't understand the word "xmas"
14:42<frosch123>it's censored, just like your car's "christmas tires" are called "winter tires" these days
14:44<Eddi|zuHause>that sentence makes no sense on so many levels :p
14:44<Wolf01>XD
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15:15<andythenorth>such tanks
15:33<andythenorth>I have been handed a feature request
15:33<andythenorth>child #1 would like more types of roads in OpenTTD :P
15:34<Wolf01>I wonder why
15:34<andythenorth>saw my game
15:35<frosch123>sometimes children get influenced by their parents
15:35<andythenorth>I could just give him the NRT binary
15:35<frosch123>that's why they are not allowed to vote
15:35<andythenorth>it's on the internet
15:35<andythenorth>I have a feature request too
15:35<andythenorth>better stations :P
15:36<Wolf01>Ok, played a bit more of the new version of astroneer, the new research system seem ok, maybe a bit slow but at least now you can research what you need instead of hoping to find it randomly
15:36<andythenorth>resp. I'd like cargo tiles that aren't train tiles
15:36<andythenorth>slope-independent
15:36<Wolf01>Yes
15:36<andythenorth>with an algorithm to distribute n cargos across n tiles
15:37<andythenorth>also flat docks
15:37<andythenorth>Wolf01: we could probably have a go at flat docks?
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15:37<Wolf01>We should first wait for the multitile dock, then newgrf docks
15:37<m3henry>G'day
15:38<andythenorth>oh yes
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15:38<Wolf01>Once you have multitile newgrf docks you will have flat docks too
15:39<Wolf01>But at some point we should really remove the non-track tiles from the train stations and make them available to every station type
15:39<Eddi|zuHause>it's tricky to actually remove something from grf spec
15:40<Wolf01>What's the problem, extend the same stuff to every station type, so you will quadruplicate the same stuff ;)
15:41<Eddi|zuHause>that wasn't really the question you asked :p
15:41<Wolf01>I didn't even ask a question
15:42<m3henry>Sounds like the definition of 'non-track station tile' is a seperate category of station to existing types, rather than a subset
15:43<Eddi|zuHause>m3henry: that would be logical. why would we ever do that?
15:43<m3henry>Well, for one it means a direct conversion path for old saves
15:44<m3henry>If non-track station tiles -> modeless station tile
15:44<m3henry>existing IDs could be re-used
15:44<Eddi|zuHause>that's not really the point
15:44<Eddi|zuHause>the problem is not old savegames, but old newgrf
15:45<andythenorth>break them
15:45<m3henry>Well it would also apply to old newgrfs
15:45<m3henry>As the ABI wouldn't neccesarily need to change
15:45<Eddi|zuHause>also my "s" button being pressed after the "enter" button
15:45<m3henry>lel
15:45<Eddi|zuHause>m3henry: but the ABI itself is kind of the main problem
15:46<m3henry>You'll need to elaborate
15:46<Eddi|zuHause>we have non-track stations, which are based on a very early TTDPatch hack
15:47<andythenorth>my main objective is slope-independence
15:47<andythenorth>which is ~impossible for train tiles
15:47<Eddi|zuHause>and we have "Objects", which are similar to almost everything else (houses, industries) and would be the logical choice for non-track stations
15:47<Eddi|zuHause>the two are very incompatible
15:48<m3henry>* opens codebase to poke around
15:48<Eddi|zuHause>there is no simple mapping from old nontrack stations to object-based stations
15:48<m3henry>What if it were defined to be so?
15:49<Eddi|zuHause>what if you defined that global warming was solved?
15:50<m3henry>That would segfault as The variable is located outside of my computer's memory address range.
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15:54<m3henry>But anyway, if the actions to generate a non-track station tile could be remapped to generate object style station tiles, that might be a potential path to a solution
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15:56<Eddi|zuHause>and i just said they are very incompatible
15:57<m3henry>What properties does a non-track station tile have that an object cannot have?
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16:10<m3henry>My drive at the moment is to obsolete MallocT<>()
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16:29<Wolf01><andythenorth> which is ~impossible for train tiles <- false, I made it for non-track tiles, there's a patch somewhere in the forum
16:31<andythenorth>o_O
16:33<Wolf01>I was pissed off to not being able to put buffer stops on the > end of a raised track
16:38<andythenorth>I remember that
16:41<Wolf01>Also the sloped stations... mmmh, that was nice
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16:57<Wolf01>'night
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