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04:13<andythenorth>o/
04:13<RafiX>o/
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06:41<Celestar>Merry Xmas :D
06:43<__ln__>ho-ho-ho
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08:17<Borg>I really dont understand why most servers are on smooth_economy
08:25<RafiX>got mine PS3 :D
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08:58<Samu>hi
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11:56<@Alberth>evenink
11:58<Samu>hi
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12:24<Samu>is kogut here?
12:25<Samu>his v97 is doing bad with roads
12:31<Borg>anyone up for some nearly vanilla game?
12:47<Samu>dictatorAI road removal feature is horribad!
12:47<Samu>feels like sabotage
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12:53<andythenorth>hi Alkel_U3
12:53<andythenorth>or Alberth
12:54<@Alberth>o/
12:54<Alkel_U3>Yes, hello
12:55<andythenorth>sorry :P
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13:09<m3henry>G'day
13:20<@Alberth>o/
13:24<m3henry>I'm surprised to come home to no internet, so mobile tethering is my only option for now
13:44<Wormnest>Samu: I´ve been thinking about adding road removal to NoNoCab too when infrastructure maintenance is on
13:45<Wormnest>Because If you close an unprofitable connection you don´t want to keep paying for maintenance
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27955 trunk/src/lang/french.txt (2017-12-28 19:45:40 +0100 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>french: 2 changes by glx
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14:08<Samu>hi Wormnest
14:09<Samu>but how can you detect if a road is being used?
14:09<Wormnest>Hi Samu
14:10<Samu>by other companies, of course
14:10<Wormnest>Well If my ai bought a certain road and it doesn´t need it anymore and infrastructure maintenance is on
14:10<Wormnest>then it will hurt my profits to keep it
14:11<Wormnest>Those other companies using my infrastructure are not paying me
14:12<Wormnest>And with infrastructure maintenance it´s often not easy for an ai to make a profit
14:12<Wormnest>So cutting unnecessary costs is important
14:12<Samu>well, it sounds like it will break many things
14:12<Samu>especially in competitions
14:13<Wormnest>Well like DictatorAI uses an option so you can always turn it off
14:14<Samu>can't it look like it's sabotaging the competitor?
14:14<Samu>it's not*
14:14<LordAro>you've clearly never come across rondje :p
14:15<Samu>i tried rondje, he doesn't exactly sabotage
14:15<Samu>reuses other players roads
14:15<Samu>a bit dirty
14:15<Wormnest>Well obviously it will hurt anyone trying to use a removed road
14:16<Wormnest>But if you do it to make your own company more profitable and not doing it will hurt you it´s just a choice between yourself and another ai
14:17<Samu>what would 2 nonocabs do if they remove each others roads? :(
14:19<Wormnest>Well decide that that particular connection is not profitable, sell vehicles (if they still can reach depot) and find another connection
14:25<Samu>it's gonna be a hard task to detect where the vehicles walk on
14:26<Samu>how would it deal when 2 routes cross each other, and the pathfinder decides to use part of a route for both transports
14:27<Samu>if the ai wants to remove one route and keep the other, how can it detect the road vehicles reusing part of the other route
14:27<Samu>hmm :(
14:30<Wormnest>imho it will be easier for an ai to detect if a vehicle can still reach it destination
14:30<Wormnest>And if not add road to connect it again
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18:00<m3henry>I've been tightening up SmallVector<T,S> and I've noticed that the rationale stated in the file "Simple vector class that allows allocating an item without the need to copy this->data needlessly." isn't something it does, and the only advantage it has over std::vector is the ability to set the allocation policy.
18:06<Samu>hi
18:06<m3henry>'lo
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18:26<m3henry>G'day
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