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---Logopened Mon Jan 01 00:00:30 2018
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03:50<andythenorth>o/
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05:07<Wolf01>Moin
05:07<RafiX>\m/
05:07*RafiX NP: Sword Of The Witcher by Vader - from The Witcher Inspired Music
05:07*RafiX headbangs
05:07<andythenorth>lo Wolf01
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05:22<Borg>moin
05:22<Borg>hmm Cargo Flow tool needs improvements
05:22<Borg>first, color change... from green to blue -> red range
05:22<Borg>will be much more readable
05:22<Borg>second... draw only single line when cargo flow is unidirectional
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05:24<andythenorth>interesting idea
05:24<andythenorth>got a patch? o_O
05:24<andythenorth>I could test
05:25<Borg>hmm :) im reading linkgraph_gui.cpp atm :)
05:25<andythenorth>green / red is bad for colour blindness
05:25<andythenorth>as well as hard to see in temperate
05:25<Borg>yep
05:25<Borg>also range black, blue -> red have nice palete transition
05:25<Borg>imo best one
05:26<andythenorth>does direction matter? probably not
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05:26<Borg>andythenorth: what do you mean?
05:26*andythenorth wondered about arrows, but not needed
05:26<Borg>hmm
05:26<andythenorth>direction isn't useful information, just utilisation
05:27<Borg>I think so too
05:27<Borg>also white need to be changed to black and all stuff become much more readable imo
05:27<Borg>and red dot.. to white dot? or light green dot? on station?
05:28<andythenorth>the station dot is company colour
05:28<Borg>aah
05:28<Borg>ok
05:28<Borg>okey, color change is trivial
05:29<Borg>const uint8 LinkGraphOverlay::LINK_COLOURS[]
05:29<Borg>lets see uni/bi-directional stuff
05:29<Wolf01>Try some mockup screenshots, it's hard to tell what could work well with text :P
05:30<RafiX>damn, The Witcher Soundtrack is nice
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05:37<Borg>ahhh its based on road_side
05:37<Borg>okey.. so lets leave it bidirictional..
05:37<Borg>changing colors would make it much more readable.. so not used link will not bother u so much
05:38<Borg>white was terrible choice here :)
05:42<Borg>okey, time to hexedit openttd binary
05:42<Borg>to see if I can adjust palete right now ;)
05:49<Wolf01>That scares me... you have sources available to do the same thing easily
05:52<Borg>nah..
05:52<Borg>never done binary patching?
05:52<Borg>it was popular in DOS times ;)
05:52<Borg>done.. lets see
05:52<Borg>openttd runs
05:52<Borg>jaj it works :D
05:52<Borg>muuuuch better colors
05:52<RafiX>lmao
05:53<Borg>C8 CA CB CC AC AD AE AF BC BB BA B9
05:53<Borg>this is palette I use :)
05:53<Wolf01>"much better colors... everything is in 50 shades of brown"
05:53<Borg>pfft
05:53<RafiX>better than 50 shades of gray
05:53<Borg>I used blue, purple and red
05:53<Borg>4 shades of each
06:06<__ln__>Happy 2018th birthday, Earth!
06:06<Wolf01>Yes
06:07<RafiX>well it's not happy in Iran
06:07<RafiX>and North Korea
06:12<__ln__>RafiX: It's also not 2018 in Iran or North Korea.
06:12<andythenorth>__ln__: that presumes a certain start date also :P
06:12<RafiX>not?
06:12<andythenorth>for the birthday
06:13<__ln__>RafiX: it's 1396 in iran, and 108 in north korea.
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06:16<RafiX>TIL I learned that it's not 2018 in Iran and North Korea
06:24<andythenorth>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1200619#p1200619
06:24<Wolf01>\o/
06:30<V453000>andythenorth: what new compared to latest alpha?
06:34<andythenorth>fixes
06:35<andythenorth>http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions
06:35<andythenorth>V453000: also I changed all cargos
06:36<V453000>was just wondering, we are using the latest alpha on our server atm
06:37<andythenorth>you didn't bite on cargos troll :(
06:40<V453000>:)
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07:17<Borg>damn.. now w/ changed colors.. I love Cargo flow tool
07:48<Borg>andythenorth: direction is there.. :) based on roadside
07:48<Borg>I would rather made it independed setting :)
07:50<Borg>or base it on signal_side ?
07:51<Borg>something client side consistent
08:11<andythenorth>dunno :)
08:12<andythenorth>I never paid much attention to direction
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11:03<Samu>hi 2018
11:03<Samu>who's happy about the new year?
11:03<Samu>seriously...
11:04<Samu>what's there to be so happy about :(
11:04<Wolf01>I was writing the same
11:09<Wolf01>Here they raised taxes, gas and energy prices, highway toll (in some places even 67%, here only 1.78%), VAT, decontributed contracts for jobs (the fucking apprentice ones) are expiring this month (they plan about 80k people to lose their job), they seem to have plenty of reasons to be happy, the rest of the people not so many
11:09<@Rubidium>that the year can be factored again?
11:11<Wolf01>Mmmh, this electric pole cable thing in F should really be fixed, I'm tired to place blueprints on the other side of the world and then have to go by myself to fix 2 cables connected on the wrong place
11:23<__ln__>how much is your VAT now?
11:23<Wolf01>22%
11:24<__ln__>that's low
11:25<Wolf01>4 years ago it was 19%
11:26<__ln__>that's even lower
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11:35<Eddi|zuHause>here we still have 19%
11:35<Eddi|zuHause>but that might change once we have a new government
11:36<Eddi|zuHause>(it's still uncertain how and when that might happen)
11:42<V453000>omg I coded a dropdown gui for blender :D G_G
11:42<V453000>custom stuff as fuck
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11:55<Eddi|zuHause>you are a blender god!
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12:44<Samu>the first 6 ais have reached 2051
12:45<Samu>i mean 2151 in this case
13:05<Samu>another one reaches 2151
13:05<Samu>testing 7 next AIs
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13:40<Samu>chopper bankrupted
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14:15<Samu>wrightai is doing well with aircraft
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16:04<+glx>hello
16:04<LordAro>say, all the copyrights are a year out
16:05<heffer>has anything copyrightable been added this year, so far? :P
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16:29<V453000>uhh python people, how do I import another python file so that I can use functions and classes from it? both in the same folder?
16:29<V453000>import -filename- doesn't seem to do it
16:44<LordAro>V453000: with py3, not easily
16:44<LordAro>py2 can do "import .module"
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17:20<Eddi|zuHause>why is that different in py3?
17:21<Eddi|zuHause>do "import filename" and use "filename.class"
17:21<Eddi|zuHause>or "from filename import class"
17:21<Eddi|zuHause>then you can use "class"
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>make sure that both files are in the current working directory
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>otherwise you need to do some CLASSPATH magic
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>PYTHONPATH
17:22<Eddi|zuHause>or whatever it's called
17:23<Samu>wrightai is doing bad now :(
17:23<Samu>t.t
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17:38<Wolf01>'night
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18:36<Samu>borkai and wrightai bankrupted t.t
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22:41<Afdal>hay guise what language is OpenTTD written in again
22:43<Afdal>is it C?
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