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03:40<Borg>hmm who the fuck is frosch.. and why he is closig my ticket..
03:53<V453000>just the most active developer, no big deal
03:53<Borg>and the most rude I think ;)
03:55<V453000>that's vastly different from my impression
03:55<V453000>which ticket are you talking about?
03:58<LordAro>^
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04:02<Borg>6650
04:03<V453000>well, he's usually around here in European evenings, you can ask him directly :)
04:05<Borg>10:04 -!- frosch There was no such nickname
04:05<Borg>anyway, lets RTFS also. about that 1F code
04:06<Borg>case 0x1F:
04:06<Borg> if (str[0] == '\0' || str[1] == '\0') goto string_end;
04:06<Borg> d += Utf8Encode(d, ' ');
04:06<Borg> str += 2;
04:06<Borg>break;
04:06<Borg>noo shit
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04:08<Borg>lets check it again.. maybe I was misleaded by that ' '
04:11<Borg>okey, he is right.. seems I put that bloody 1 1 in test
04:11<Borg>and was misleadded :)
04:11<Borg>still removing 1F wasnt good idea, but well. its gone
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06:49<Borg>really.. there should be flag.. to allow company that owns other players company at 75% shares.. to demolish tracks.. and roads
06:49<Borg>;)
06:52<peter1138>What's the context?
06:53<peter1138>Oh, I was scrolled back :-)
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10:26<Samu>hi
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11:14<frosch123>anyone knows flightsim.com ?
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11:33<peter1138>I've probably visited it at some point...
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12:06<@Alberth>hi hi
12:08<frosch123>moin
12:10<frosch123>hmm, it takes ages to delete 3M files
12:12<V453000>Borg: ^
12:15<frosch123>anyway, does anyone want to do an email interview with flightsim.com
12:15<frosch123>they think their planes are interested in reading about a train game
12:17<@Alberth>lol
12:20<@Alberth>just format the disk :p
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12:25<RafiX>frosch123: what do you delete so many files?
12:26<frosch123>some webapp on devzone is designed to create a new file for each session, and to never delete them
12:26<frosch123>it worked since 2015, yesterday it ran out of inodes
12:33<LordAro>lol
12:35<Borg>V453000: ?
12:35<Borg>frosch123: what FS?
12:36<frosch123>?
12:36<Borg>what FileSystem
12:37<frosch123>it's a virtualised one, it says ext2/3, but no idea whether that's the truth
12:37<Borg>virtualised FS? wtf....
12:38<Borg>you mean its VM.. having ext2 or ext3 FS?
12:39<frosch123>the filesystem is inside a https://openvz.org/Ploop container
12:41<frosch123>i did not setup this thing, so i only have a vague idea what it does :)
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13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27959 trunk/src/lang/spanish_MX.txt (2018-01-05 19:45:40 +0100 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>spanish (mexican): 8 changes by Absay
13:47<Wormnest>Does AITile.IsWaterTile return true for tiles that have a water industry on them?
13:48<frosch123>no
13:50<frosch123>it returns true for flat sea tiles, ship depots, locks, canals and rivers
13:51<frosch123>false for docks, buoys and water industries
13:51<frosch123>and coast
13:51<Wormnest>Thanks, need to find something else why it´s not seeing there is another oil rig in the way
14:04<Samu>oil rig is industry tile
14:04<Wormnest>Hm could be the other oil rig was built after the ship route was made
14:04<Samu>or station tile
14:05<Wormnest>I know
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14:46<andythenorth>o/
14:46<_3298>hey andy, feel like burning another fs task?
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14:49<andythenorth>got one to suggest? o_O
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14:49<@Alberth>o/
14:50<_3298>yes, fs#6653
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14:51<Wolf01>o/
14:51<andythenorth>https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6653
14:52<andythenorth>Borg: can you attach a patch to this? https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6651
14:52<andythenorth>I know it's a tiny diff, but eh
14:53<andythenorth>which icon is 'switch toolbar'? o_O https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6654
14:54<_3298>that's the button for switching between first and second half of the toolbar on really tiny screens
14:57<Borg>andythenorth: sorry, no patch.. I hexedited openttd binary :)
14:58<frosch123>andythenorth: do you also play flight simulators?
15:04<Wolf01>Is andy in task closure rampage?
15:04<andythenorth>frosch123: not currently
15:05<andythenorth>I have considered it
15:05<frosch123>flightsim.com asks whether someone wants to do a email interview to introduce the plane nerds to trains or something :p
15:05<andythenorth>I spent a very long time playing this when I was smaller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0x5JbmU6HU
15:06<andythenorth>it was awesome
15:06<andythenorth>I would like an open source version :P
15:08<Wolf01>Wow, the graphics were so realistic you could even see the clouds!
15:09<Borg>good old vector graphic.. :)
15:09<Borg>I remember such games too :) Liked them
15:10<RafiX>somebody talking about retro games?
15:10<Wolf01>I played a lot with gunship
15:10*RafiX suddenly appears
15:10<Borg>hahha that slowdown :D not enough CPU power to handle derbis
15:10<Borg>:>
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15:17<Wolf01>What if I... start F?
15:18<Wolf01>I didn't play for 3 days in a row
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15:27<@Alberth>:O your record is in danger!
15:27<Wolf01>I'm at 448 hours :P
15:27<@Alberth>could have been around 500! :D
15:29<Wolf01>I'll get to that, don't worry
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15:29<frosch123>bah, 8GB in 2.6M files deleted and still not finished :/
15:29<frosch123>running for over 3 hours :p
15:30<frosch123>sometimes filesystems are so slow
15:30<frosch123>hmm, about 250 files per second
15:31<frosch123>no idea what i would expect :p
15:31<Wolf01>Just format it, it's quick!
15:33<Borg>frosch123: thats very very terrible
15:34<Borg>how many files per dir?
15:34<Borg>how you delete them? find . -exec ?
15:34<Borg>but.. from other side.. 250 secs on stuffed cache :) aint that bad
15:35<frosch123>find . -mtime +3 -delete
15:35<Borg>how many files per dir? aprox?
15:35<frosch123>i have no idea about the container file system performance
15:35<frosch123>and there are also other things running
15:36<frosch123>it seems to have 3 levels of hexdigit dirs
15:36<frosch123>@calc 0x1000
15:36<@DorpsGek>frosch123: 4096
15:36<frosch123>about 4k dirs for 3M files?
15:37<Borg>lets that 800 files per dir
15:37<Borg>question is. how well they are distributed
15:37<frosch123>probably evenly
15:37<Borg>still.. 4k dirs is also not bad value.. usualy pretty fast
15:37<frosch123>that should be the purpose of naming the dirs hexadecimal
15:38<Borg>well.. I blame FS limits itself
15:38<Borg>probably flush caches when meta hits 4k files
15:38<Borg>meta changes I mean...
15:38<Borg>seen that on NTFS and EXT2 and XFS
15:39<Borg>could be tunable
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16:00<Borg>hmmm
16:00<Borg>I need opinions :)
16:01<Borg>I made GRF where secondary industry production is via CB
16:01<Borg>to increase it production.. 2 factors needed:
16:01<Borg>1) enough cargo....
16:01<Borg>2) good rating (transported 70%+)
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16:01<Borg>if rating is too poor.. production will not raise.. and if <40%
16:01<Borg>it will even start falling
16:02<Borg>sounds good?
16:02<Borg>I have server and we play second day w/ this... fun.. I wonder how other would see it
16:04<frosch123>what happens in case of "(1) and not (2)"?
16:05<frosch123>does it still accept the cargo? does it stockpile it under the sun? does it just eat the input without output?
16:07<frosch123>https://blog.liw.fi/posts/rm-is-too-slow/ <- btw. some other gui needed 1 week to delete 61M files :p
16:07<frosch123>*guy
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16:12<Borg>frosch123: yeah.. it stockpile it until limit.. and then stops paying for cargo (still accepting it)
16:12<Borg>power station (not producing anything) works a bit different.. only 1) is importand.
16:12<Borg>so more coal it have.. higher burn rate
16:13<frosch123>so you have to provide a complete chain, or you will suffer when the stockpile is filled?
16:13<Borg>yep
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16:19<Borg>suffer is not that terrible, because there is minimum production... 80-90 units per month
16:19<Borg>so u still will get some profit
16:19<Borg>its lvl 1, max is 24
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17:00<andythenorth>bed
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20:22<XaTriX>hi there :)
20:23<ST2>morning o/
20:23<XaTriX>is a game script compatible with loading savegame ? it seems inactive after quit and load a savegame
20:23<XaTriX>o/
20:23<XaTriX>morning ? 2 am here ;o
20:24<ST2>exactly, day started 2 hours ago xD
20:24<XaTriX>right
20:24<XaTriX>early morning so ? ^^
20:24<ST2>I thing the save must bebdone with gs on it
20:25<XaTriX>gs ?
20:25<XaTriX>oh gamescript
20:25<ST2>be done*
20:25<XaTriX>yeah it was activated and running correctly
20:26<XaTriX>in "game suspended" notification i can see old "game script" mention, after loading, appears no more
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20:55<XaTriX>can i convert a savegame to a scenario ?
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21:38<XaTriX>ok solv my problem (save to .sav, rename to .scn, reactivate gs in scenario editor, upload to serv, load scn, enjoy)
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22:27<Eddi|zuHause>the game script is responsible for saving and loading its data
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