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04:26<Borg>vioala.. and its done :) sectorized OpenTTD
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07:51<Borg>hmmm a weird idea popped in :D
07:51<Borg>realistic train stop... an option..
07:52<Borg>if train see red.. he hit breaks.. if he mis the stop signal.. oh well.. enoluck :)
07:52<RafiX>hello
07:52<Borg>does train tracks last signal he passed?
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08:52<FLHerne>No
08:54<FLHerne>There was, somewhere, a patch to implement warning signals and allow overshoots like that
08:54<Borg>oh :)
08:54<FLHerne>But it becomes very complicated where junctions are involved, and is mostly just annoying
08:55<Borg>well
08:55<Borg>its easy to do w/ presignals
08:55<Borg>hard/complicated w/ PBS
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08:55<FLHerne>Currently, the path to be reserved by a PBS signal is only chosen at the instant a train reaches it
08:55<FLHerne>Which obviously causes a problem for advance-warning aspects
08:55<Borg>yep
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08:58<FLHerne>This seems to be the most recent https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=74482
08:59<Borg>hmm looks nice :)
09:06<Borg>uh.. dude used too much physics there :)
09:06<Borg>overdid it...
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09:17<Borg>also went too much realistic in my opinion..
09:18<Borg>still, idea is interesting.. would make look building tracks more natural
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09:35<supermop_work>yo
09:36<supermop_work>@logs
09:36<@DorpsGek>supermop_work: https://webster.openttdcoop.org/index.php?channel=openttd
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10:29<Samu>for my next AI tests, I was considering 4096x4096, unsure if solo or multi AIs
10:30<Samu>wanted to see how well they handle big maps
10:32<Samu>it's gonna consume too much of my time though
10:32<Samu>and I don't think I have enough HDD space for all savegames
10:33<Samu>it was something I really wanted to do
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10:38<Samu>@calc 100 * 12
10:38<@DorpsGek>Samu: 1200
10:39<peter1138>That was hard
10:40<Samu>need to generate a savegame yet
10:40<Samu>sec
10:43<Samu>@calc 100 * 12 * 8 * 15
10:43<@DorpsGek>Samu: 144000
10:44<Samu>144 Gigabytes?
10:45<Samu>got 355 GB free
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10:46<@Alberth>hola
10:47<Samu>hi
10:47<Samu>i need to disable trees
10:47<Samu>they really increase savegame size
10:56<LordAro>"need"
10:57<peter1138>Just use a sensible map size.
10:57<peter1138>Something like 256x256/.
10:59<Samu>that has been tried many times :(
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11:08<Samu>interesting, generating industries is quicker now
11:08<Samu>did you change something about industries recently?
11:08<@Alberth>likely you changed the landscape
11:09<Samu>that may be it, let me retry with less water
11:13<Samu>it takes more time to generate trees than anything else
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11:20<@Alberth>you can use a different tree generator :)
11:21<Samu>I will disable trees, to save a big chunk of hdd space
11:21<@Alberth>or remove all trees manually
11:21<@Alberth>gives a nice challenge after loading it again as a bonus
11:22<Samu>it also seems to speed up savegame time
11:22<Samu>tried autosaving with trees, it took 3 months game-time, and I was planning monthly saves
11:25<Samu>@calc 250/15
11:25<@DorpsGek>Samu: 16.6666666667
11:38<Samu>I swear, generating industries is very quick now
11:38<Samu>in a matter of seconds, 20k industries were generated
11:39<Samu>4, 5 seconds
11:40<Samu>let me try disabling multiple industries of same type per town
11:40<Samu>still quick
11:42<@Alberth>what are you going to do with 20K industries?
11:42<Samu>test AIs
11:42<@Alberth>you really beleive an AI will connect anywhere near 1000 industries?
11:43<Samu>i really don't know what to expect
11:43<Samu>wanted to put them to their limits
11:43<Samu>zlib:1 or lzo?
11:44<Samu>for savegame format
11:44<@Alberth>mostly affects savegame size and cpu usage for saving
11:45<Samu>it can't take more than 1 month saving
11:45<@Alberth>if you don't care for size, zlib is likely less cpu intensive
11:45<@Alberth>but the additional data that you need to save may kill that advantage
11:45<@Alberth>disk streaming is also quite finite :p
11:46<Borg>cache!!! my friend.. cache!
11:46<Borg>;)
11:46<@Alberth>yeah, 1TB cache will work :p
11:46<Samu>also, the spectator can't disconnect while server is saving
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11:46<Samu>i need to ensure spectator keeps connected with all autosaves going on
11:46<Borg>anyway
11:47<Borg>im going to start new server... anyone?
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11:48<Samu>number of ops, what u suggest
11:49<Samu>min 5k? default 10k? 16.666? 80k? max 250k?
11:50<Samu>Wormnest: how many op codes do u got when u test AIs?
11:52<Samu>think i'm gonna play safe and use defaults
11:52<Samu>10,000 / medium
11:53<Samu>10,000 ops / medium speed / easy profile
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12:05<Samu>gonna turn off cargodist and infrastructure costs
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12:13<Samu>hope I don't regret setting 10k ops
12:26<Samu>just started the test
12:37<Samu>https://imgur.com/a/QAmPd
12:38<Samu>it can live with it
12:38<Samu>hope my rig doesn't overheat or crash
12:40<Samu>so as I can see, LuDiAI was the fastest starter
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12:42<Samu>seems that zlib:1 was a good compromise
12:43<Samu>it is enough to save without the spectator dropping
12:43<Samu>enough speed
12:46<LordAro>why do you need to run a server?
12:46<LordAro>can you not just start_ai ?
12:46<LordAro>from the console*
12:47<Samu>uh... I don't know, I got used to this
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12:48<LordAro>running half as many ottd instances seems preferable ;)
12:50<Samu>holy crabs, nonocab v5 has started building 1 year later, I was gonna expect 15 years or more, but no, it just started, only 1 year later
12:50<Samu>nice job Wormnest
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12:56<Wormnest>Samu: I´ve never experimented with opcodes always leave it default
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13:08<Samu>terron dumps so much log text
13:09<Samu>cleanest log award goes to trAIns
13:09<Samu>"looping..."
13:10<Samu>very informative...
13:10<Wormnest>Well if you set NoNoCAB´s log settings to errors only you won´t see much either
13:11<Samu>LuDiAI is seriously fast
13:12<Samu>it is about to reach £1M worth
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13:12<Samu>it's a new AI isn't it? I don't recall seeing it before last year
13:14<Samu>first to reach £1 million https://imgur.com/ihyp4Gs
13:14<Samu>crap, wrong image
13:15<andythenorth>o/
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13:15<Samu>https://imgur.com/RyL0KgL
13:16<Wolf01>o/
13:16<Samu>hi
13:17<frosch123>moo
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13:20<Wormnest>LuDiAI is fairly new yes. I think it was a university project, which probably means we won´t see any updates to it.
13:23<Samu>i see it abuses station spreading
13:23<Samu>meh...
13:23<Samu>cheater
13:23<Samu>kinda hard to compete vs that
13:23<Borg>what spread u have set?
13:23<Samu>64
13:23<Borg>da fuck?!
13:23<Borg>anything larger that 21 is fucking abuse..
13:23<Borg>;)
13:23<Borg>I usualy play with 14
13:24<Samu>i wanna avoid AIs crashing, so i set most limits to its max
13:24<Samu>:p
13:24<Borg>biased testing ;p
13:26<Wormnest>Well if AI´s crash then they need to fix it. Only good if problems are found with more regular settings :p
13:27<Wormnest>Though I doubt there will be a lot of problems with setting lower station spread
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13:35<Samu>i promise next time I will test really hard settings
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13:39<Samu>i'm surprised this is running so well
13:39<Samu>8 servers each 4096x4096
13:40<Samu>there seems to be no delays
13:40<Samu>there's a few pauses during month transitions due to autosave, but that's all
13:45<@DorpsGek>Commit by translators :: r27963 trunk/src/lang/norwegian_bokmal.txt (2018-01-11 19:45:39 +0100 )
13:45<@DorpsGek>-Update from Eints:
13:45<@DorpsGek>norwegian (bokmal): 2 changes by Leifbk
13:54<frosch123>^^ that guy broke firs :p
13:55<Samu>seems that LuDiAI doesn't build more than 500 road vehicles :(
13:55<Samu>i've set the limit to 5000
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13:58<frosch123>andythenorth: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pawgxoc4e?/pawgxoc4e
13:58<frosch123>fixed firs
13:58<andythenorth>why did STR_EMPTY have chars? :o
13:58<frosch123>no idea, translators added them?
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13:59<andythenorth>hmm
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13:59<andythenorth>dunno
14:00<frosch123>you added them
14:00<frosch123>and removed them again in english, but translators kept them
14:00<andythenorth>ah
14:00<andythenorth>I've pushed, will eints just keep over-writing my local change?
14:01<andythenorth>thanks also
14:01<frosch123>eints is fine
14:02<andythenorth>I can fix the issue permanently if it's worth it
14:02<andythenorth>by making that string non-translated
14:21<Wolf01>So, any cat?
14:28<Samu>I'll post a screenshot when the first AI reaches £10M
14:32<andythenorth>Wolf01: wondering about catenary cat
14:32<andythenorth>wondering if the drawing is a loop, and if we can just run it twice
14:33<andythenorth>once per road and tram
14:36<Wolf01>Why a loop when you can hardcode both drawings?
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14:41<andythenorth>that too
14:41<V453000>iz snake/
14:41<V453000>?
14:42<V453000>iz slug?
14:43<Wolf01>Iz broken splitter
14:49<andythenorth>iz chicken for tea
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14:57<Samu>https://imgur.com/ixol42D
14:57<Samu>first to £10M
14:58<Samu>next screenshot is first to £100M :p
15:04<Samu>Wormnest: WormAI transports oil from oil wells in temperate tileset, is that intended? :o
15:05<Samu>it's that kind of industry that wear off
15:07<Wormnest>WormAI uses any industry that´s available.
15:07<Borg>Wormnest: hope you coded it when industry is closed :)
15:09<Wormnest>Borg: It will notice when profits go down and then sell vehicles. Can´t remember if it handles industry closing news but I think not
15:09<Wormnest>There´s always more things to improve ;)
15:11<Samu>LuDiAI is really crazy about airports
15:11<Samu>the distance from one to another can clearly surpass 2000 tiles
15:12<Samu>Not sure if that much distance makes it viabl
15:12<Wormnest>more distance = more profits unless the planes are too slow
15:12<Samu>yes, in this map size, they're only arriving at next year or so
15:13<Samu>FFP Dart has just released, so maybe it can help him
15:15<Samu>from 906x1687 to 3090x287
15:15<Samu>halp me calculate distance
15:15<Samu>@calc 3090-906 + 1687-287
15:15<@DorpsGek>Samu: 3584
15:16<Samu>woah...
15:16<LordAro>not quite
15:16<LordAro>unless it travels in straight lines
15:18<Wormnest>It´s apparently made for a bachelor thesis, link to google translation, original in czech: https://translate.google.nl/translate?hl=nl&sl=cs&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fis.muni.cz%2Fth%2F422180%2Ffi_b%2Fbp_dihel.pdf
15:19<LordAro>@calc (3090-906)-(1687-287) + sqrt(2 * (1687-287))
15:19<@DorpsGek>LordAro: 836.915026221
15:20<LordAro>@calc (3090-906)-(1687-287) + sqrt(2 * (1687-287)^2)
15:20<@DorpsGek>LordAro: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
15:20<LordAro>@calc (3090-906)-(1687-287) + sqrt(2 * (1687-287)**2)
15:20<@DorpsGek>LordAro: 2763.89898732
15:20<LordAro>that's better
15:27<andythenorth>conflict in media/extra_grf/openttdgui.png eh :P
15:28<andythenorth>such joy
15:31<andythenorth>that will be resolved in photoshop eh :P
15:38<LordAro>andythenorth: eh?
15:39<andythenorth>branch merge
15:39<LordAro>when on earth did that file get changed
15:46<frosch123>paul fixed some fire-cycle pixels in the switch-toolbar icon
15:46<LordAro>ah
15:55<andythenorth>how do I rebuild openttd.grf?
15:55<andythenorth>will just make do it?
15:56<LordAro>there's a make rule somewhere..
15:57<frosch123>if it finds grfcodec in your PATH, make will do
15:57<andythenorth>ach
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16:03<andythenorth>frosch123: were the pixels in two yellow arrows?
16:03<frosch123>paul redrew the whole icon
16:03<frosch123>but they were in the right arrow
16:04<andythenorth>ok I'm pasting it in :P
16:05<andythenorth>might have worked
16:05*andythenorth hopes
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16:06<andythenorth>https://github.com/andythenorth/NotRoadTypes/commit/4e75a13e2866b8865bec4fae85f8d87d242a06af
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16:19<andythenorth>so where's catenary then :P
16:19<andythenorth>https://github.com/andythenorth/NotRoadTypes/commit/4e75a13e2866b8865bec4fae85f8d87d242a06af
16:19<andythenorth>oops bad paste
16:19<andythenorth>DrawRoadCatenary
16:20<andythenorth>Wolf01: so did I understand, we could patch GetCustomRoadSprite to return a composite sprite?
16:20<andythenorth>I might have crossed wires (no pun intended) :P
16:20<Wolf01>Yep
16:20<andythenorth>probably the most appropriate use of 'crossed wires' ever :P
16:21<andythenorth>so we have a sprite compositor? o_O
16:22<Wolf01>No, we have layering
16:23<andythenorth>hmm
16:24*andythenorth brave new world
16:24<andythenorth>so how do we do this? o_O
16:24<Wolf01>Sprite slicing and composition would be cool
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16:31<andythenorth>I could just duplicate all of DrawRoadCatenary()
16:31<andythenorth>and reuse for tram
16:31<andythenorth>but it seems redundant eh
16:33<Wolf01>Nah, it should be possible to reuse it
16:34<Sacro>@seen Bjarni
16:34<@DorpsGek>Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 6 years, 14 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh
16:34<Sacro>He never returns :(
16:35<LordAro>hey, he did that one time, 6 years ago
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16:40<Wolf01>andythenorth: from L:1430 it should be possible to draw 1 or both catenaries, you need to pass RoadTypeIdentifiers instead of RoadTypeIdentifier to the function btw
16:43<andythenorth>what do we do?
16:43<andythenorth>call it twice, or loop inside it?
16:43<andythenorth>it = DrawRoadCatenary
16:43<Wolf01>Loop inside
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16:44<andythenorth>ok that's for tomorrow then
16:45<Wolf01>I can't be here tomorrow, also I need to sleep now
16:45<Wolf01>Saturday I could help you
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16:50<andythenorth>ok
16:50<andythenorth>also sleep here :)
16:50<andythenorth>GN
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17:37<Samu>Wormnest: have you checked terron code? I don't understand its logic
17:38<Samu>why sell vehicles if they're profiting
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17:38<Wormnest>No I didn´t sorry
17:38<Wormnest>Maybe there are newer and better vehicles available?
17:39<Samu>in 1964, i think not
17:39<Samu>i had 300 road vehicles once, now it only got 70
17:39<Samu>profit graph is diminishing
17:39<Samu>it*
17:39<Wormnest>Or they were getting old
17:40<Samu>that's the thing, they don't even get old
17:40<Samu>he's constantly recycling?
17:42<Samu>he's using transfers, i dont' really understand this ai
17:44<Wormnest>Might be it thinks it needs less vehicles on a route
17:47<Samu>I wonder if easy profile has a bad effect on him
17:47<Samu>last test, he did much better, the profile there was hard
17:48<Samu>now it looks too weak
17:49<Wormnest>Well easy profile is meant to take it easier.
17:49<Wormnest>WormAI takes longer timeouts between doing things in the easy setting too
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17:52<Ancient1>hello earthly beings
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17:53<Samu>terron log goes like this...
17:53<Samu>terminating link ...
17:54<Samu>selling specified vehicles
17:54<Samu>route revealed!
17:54<Samu>constantly doing this cycle
17:55<Samu>seems that lately, he's terminating and selling more vehicles though
17:55<Ancient1>are you cracking it?
17:55<Samu>road route reveals are 99% VALU
17:56<Samu>VALU is for valuables, ya?
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17:57<Ancient1>What is WormAI?
17:57<Samu>it's an AI company
17:57<Ancient1>they make a specific AI for games?
17:58<Wormnest>Yes valuables
17:59<Samu>what causes Terron to "terminate links" or "selling specified vehicles"
17:59<Samu>can u dig his code? :p
18:00<Wormnest>I probably can if I wanted to but I don´t want to
18:00<Samu>I think he overdoes it
18:00<Samu>oki :)
18:01<Ancient1>maybe you should pay him more so he works less
18:01<Samu>it's still a mystery to me, this terron
18:01<Wormnest>But in general it will be because for whatever reason it thinks its best to sell
18:01<Ancient1>the AI is flawed
18:01<Samu>i usually understand what's going on, but not with it
18:01<Wormnest>Either because of low profits or too many vehicles on a route
18:01<Samu>with terron
18:03<Ancient1>sell it to the big bro companies. their AIs are probably far worse
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18:52<Samu>first to £100M value
18:52<Samu>https://imgur.com/m2BuMNH
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