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03:19<vasatko>Hi how can i change bridge layout? A i know, with Action 0, property 0D. But i i dont know what is value (i try string "_0(23)1_" or hexa 02, but not works).
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04:32<Wolf01>o/
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05:53<Samu>hi
06:27<Samu>i just noticed something. AIs appear to be slower in multiplayer servers than in single player
06:28<Samu>seems that their commands "lag"
06:28<Samu>are subject to latency
06:30<@peter1138>Just like any client's commands.
06:31<Samu>AIAI pathfinding usually takes 15 days to complete a cycle
06:32<Samu>but in multiplayer it takes about 50 days
06:32<Samu>big difference
06:32<Samu>slows him down too much
06:32<Samu>considering he attempts 100 cycles
06:33<Samu>before giving up
06:33<@peter1138>Oh you mean squirrel functions rather than server commands?
06:33<Samu>yes, i guess, squirrel
06:37<Wolf01>Yay, moar lego!
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06:47<Samu>SCC_PREVIOUS_COLOUR this one looks interesting
06:47<Samu>but doesn't work as I was expecting
06:49<Samu>a {PREVIOUS_COLOUR} would be useful in some situations
06:50<Samu>goal text color is defaulted to orange, but as a question message, it's defaulted to black. If i wanted to use the same string
06:50<Samu>which prints a message with something in yellow
06:50<Samu>like STR_BEST_COMPANY_VALUE : Current most valuable company: {YELLOW}{COMPANY}{ORANGE} (Company {NUM})
06:51<Samu>instead of {ORANGE}, i would use the {PREVIOUS_COLOUR}
06:51<Samu>and it would go back to the default colour
06:51<Samu>Orange in goal text, black in question text
06:51<Samu>do you see what I mean?
06:59<Samu>btw, for percentages, is it better to use {NUM}% or {COMMA}%? there is no consistency in how it's used in the official english.txt
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08:03<Samu>class method is non-static
08:03<Samu>local global_list_old = GSList.AddList(this.global_list);
08:03<Samu>what does that mean? :(
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08:20<Samu>I don't understand lists
08:21<Samu>why does the items from the old list get the same values of the main list if I'm only changing the items of the main list?
08:22<Samu>the old list is a copy of the main list before i made the changes
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08:57<Samu>nevermind, i found a workaround
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09:17<Samu>interesting, bool can have 3 modes in squirrel
09:17<Samu>null, false and true
09:17<@peter1138>file not found
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09:24<supermop_work_>Wolf01: updated spool
09:24<Wolf01>+1
09:30<Wolf01>I need a brick separator, now, at least 25 of them and no one shows up
09:32<supermop_work_>went i got that detective office/barbershop one it came with one included
09:32<supermop_work_>i guess they include them with the big sets? when i was a kid you had to order them from the catalog
09:32<Wolf01>Yeah there's one on every >15€ set
09:33<supermop_work_>the old grey one
09:34<Wolf01>The problem is: they are on a box inside a box above the wardrobe... I'll kill myself trying to get that box down
09:34<supermop_work_>you need to wear one around your neck as a pendant at all times
09:34<Wolf01>Shit I forgot to take the cough medicinal
09:35<Wolf01>Yes, I think I'll do so
09:39<supermop_work_>get a gold one
09:42<supermop_work_>wht's italian for brick?
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10:03<Wolf01><supermop_work_> wht's italian for brick? <- mattone, for lego is mattoncino (it's little)
10:04<supermop_work_>is it mattoncina for a female minifig?
10:05<Wolf01>Lol no
10:06<supermop_work_>well lets start a campaign to make it so
10:08<Wolf01>Minifigs are called the same in italian (minifigure)
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11:32<Eddi|zuHause>uhm weird, there was a TF update, but the announcement only talks about macos?
11:34<nielsm>I think that's all it is, too
11:35<nielsm>but maybe it involved changes to some data files common between all builds, so it technically affected other platforms too
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13:00<Wolf01><Eddi|zuHause> uhm weird, there was a TF update, but the announcement only talks about macos? <- Yes, the code is shared and they fixed some mac os problems
13:06<Samu>how do I check properties of a goal? l
13:06<Samu>company id, rank, or value
13:08<Samu>https://nogo.openttd.org/api/1.7.2/classGSCompany.html#09ddb9c516f2f82254eedb44ad1ce98b
13:08<Samu>GSGoal.New
13:08<Samu>https://nogo.openttd.org/api/1.7.2/classGSGoal.html#8cfd4e97008202b4f9e8e7d61297d54f
13:11<Samu>for example, before I use GSGoal.SetText
13:11<Samu>I wanted to know if I need to actually update it, how would I do that
13:12<Samu>want to avoid creating the exact same text, avoid an update
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13:36<nielsm>huh, any suggestions why it isn't recognizing my original music set? the filenames and hashes should be right: http://0x0.st/sTZo.png
13:36<nielsm>oh, because they should _not_ be in a dir named "gm"
13:37<nielsm>while https://wiki.openttd.org/Problem/Windows#I_don.27t_have_any_music.21 says "Make sure you have copied the music files from the TTD Disk into the 'gm' folder, NOT the 'data' folder."
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13:49<andythenorth>Wolf01: o/
13:49<andythenorth>we should post an update in NRT thread? You fixed stuff https://github.com/andythenorth/NotRoadTypes/commits/road-and-tram-types
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14:01<supermop_work_>andythenorth: i caved and added haul to spool
14:02<andythenorth>I saw :)
14:02<supermop_work_>my road trains are OP wrt HAUL hogs
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14:20<Wolf01>o/ andythenorth, yes if you want, I'm defeated again by fever
14:21<andythenorth>I had that last week
14:21<andythenorth>was ugh
14:22<Wolf01>Also I passed the entire afternoon counting and sorting the parts from the last order... lego gifted a lot of parts this time... like 33 more tiles and 22 more panels without any increased cost
14:22<Wolf01>1x8 tiles...
14:23<Wolf01>I should have something like 6 or 7€ of gifted parts
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14:33<Samu>there has to be a better way to code this https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p56ra315c
14:33<Samu>it's becoming hellish to me :(
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14:47<nielsm>yes make a function that tests debug_messages and then logs if it's true, and call that instead
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14:56<Wolf01>https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/awXVP0R_460s.jpg learning python the right way
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15:02<frosch123>looks like the chapter on loops
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16:04<Samu>enable autism debug mode
16:05<Samu>can't even follow my debug
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16:50<Wolf01>https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/02/12/2245239/daylight-saving-time-isnt-worth-it-european-parliament-members-say so they finally might remove it?
16:52<+glx>would be nice
16:56<Eddi|zuHause>i believe that when it actually happens
16:57<supermop_work_>it seems like most people in the us do not like DST either, but there is too much inertia to get rid of it now
16:57<Eddi|zuHause>but this vote is a bit too far removed from actually doing anything
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17:05<Wolf01>Also 'night
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