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00:50<Chuck_>hi
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01:39<@Alberth>meep meep
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02:05<@Alberth>o/
02:11<andythenorth>moin
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03:13<andythenorth>added fruit ship
03:13<andythenorth>for fruit, carrying of http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#fruit_veg_carrier_large
03:13<andythenorth>also vegetables
03:16<@Alberth>is it by design that it looks so much like the refrigarated ship?
03:17<@Alberth>you'd expect it to be white-ish, wouldn't you?
03:18<@Alberth>perhaps drop the chimney at the front, and perhaps one side of the cranes on the deck? (or even, no cranes)
03:19<@Alberth>unless the refrigerated ship is a refurbishment of the veg carrier ship :) little paint job, and done :)
03:20<@Alberth>hmm, white isn't much needed in a temperate climate I guess
03:22<andythenorth>it's a repaint
03:22<andythenorth>Horse & Hog do same :)
03:26<andythenorth>now I need some smaller ships :(
03:32<andythenorth>these ones are done http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html
03:32<andythenorth>should I make a 0.1 release? :P
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03:36<@Alberth>bit large for 1870 :)
03:37<@Alberth>definitely a general-purpose hull :D
03:43<andythenorth>ships is ships :P
03:43<andythenorth>they're all about the same, just the components move around
03:44<andythenorth>I think it's a bit early to release
03:44<andythenorth>lacks too much :P
03:47<@Alberth>second hull-type would be nice :)
03:48<andythenorth>I need to finish a smaller one http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_small
03:48<andythenorth>also there's a big river barge
03:49<andythenorth>but I'm not sure about it
03:55<@Alberth>doesn't sound very good
03:55<@Alberth>unless you have very wide rivers :)
03:56<@Alberth>I disabled rivers a long time ago, too annoying
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04:08<andythenorth>I guess the river barge is just a way to do a different hull
04:08<andythenorth>it doesn't have any other significance
04:08<andythenorth>dunno if it looks good though :P
04:12<@Alberth>yeah, water-type isn't that relevant in openttd :)
04:13<@Alberth>I often do small boat types for servicing islands
04:13<andythenorth>there will be nice small boats in Sam
04:13<andythenorth>they're harder to draw though :P
04:13<andythenorth>they are just blobs :(
04:13<@Alberth>hmm, a very island-ish scenario, could be nice?
04:13<andythenorth>this is the river boat http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/docs/html/ships.html#bulk_carrier_large
04:14<andythenorth>it has same capacity as the ocean-looking ships
04:14<andythenorth>but I think the sprite doesn't convey that information
04:14<@Alberth>it looks too big for a river thing
04:15<@Alberth>or your ocean things are too small
04:15<andythenorth>it's too long and too wide imho
04:15<andythenorth>and the hull could be deeper
04:15<andythenorth>IRL barges https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Barge_Destin_on_the_river_Seine_002.JPG
04:15<@Alberth>width is just a single pixel?
04:16<@Alberth>too long, definitely
04:16<@Alberth>3/4 or 2/3 of an ocean thing would be better
04:16<andythenorth>FIRS dredging site https://www.goskagit.com/gallery/news/skagit-river-barge/collection_60acb22e-c63a-11e2-b613-0019bb2963f4.html
04:16<andythenorth>:P
04:17<@Alberth>why would you have same capacity? it would make one of the ships useless, wouldn't it?
04:18<@Alberth>clearly carrying water supplies :D
04:18<andythenorth>nah ships come in just a few sizes
04:19<andythenorth>for any cargo, you pick the one you like the look of (refit permitting)
04:20<@Alberth>it does work like that :)
04:20<andythenorth>the 'bulk' ship needs to look robust and chunky
04:21<andythenorth>similar http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/dump_car_pony_gen_6C.png
04:21<andythenorth>maybe more like this? http://www.virusphoto.com/262679-pousseur-de-barge-sur-la-seine.html
04:22<@Alberth>big square thing :)
04:22<@Alberth>or rather, rectangular
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04:44<Wolf01>Moin
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04:45<NGC3982>i forgot about this channel
04:45<NGC3982>:|
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04:47<@Alberth>moin W
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04:58*Wolf01 looks for some more lithium for the base batteries...
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05:07<NGC3982>so, i have put so much hours into cities skylines, factorio and ksp now
05:07<NGC3982>what next?
05:07<andythenorth>?
05:07<andythenorth>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8843/bulkier_bulk.png
05:07<NGC3982>im actually bored with all of them :(.
05:07<Wolf01>Play astroneer
05:08<Wolf01>They look really cool, andy
05:08<NGC3982>astroneer looks cool!
05:08<andythenorth>does the 'bulk' look same capacity as 'freighter'?
05:09*NGC3982 buys
05:10<LordAro>NGC3982: all 3 of those have extensive modding communities
05:11<NGC3982>LordAro: yeah, i know. i have also explored quite a bit of all the mods
05:11*andythenorth bbl
05:11<andythenorth>such ships
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05:12<NGC3982>ksp modding is cool but has so much version dependecy issues. cities skylines has cool mods, but i spent so many hours with mods i returned to vanilla, and factorio is ..factorio.
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06:19<Eddi|zuHause>the moment i looked into KSP mods it practically killed the game for me
06:21<Eddi|zuHause>i spent all the time debugging mod issues, and none of the time playing
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07:45<Eddi|zuHause>so, i started TF after ages, tried to load my game, it spent way too long loading, and then crashed with a protection fault
07:49<Eddi|zuHause>nope, again crashed on loading the game :/
07:49<Eddi|zuHause>is it not meant to load old games?
07:50<Wolf01>It should
07:51<Eddi|zuHause>nope, also crashing on new games
07:51<Wolf01>Some weird mod?
07:51<Eddi|zuHause>no mods as far as i remember
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08:01<Eddi|zuHause>so much for that game :/
08:03<Wolf01>Quak
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08:03<frosch123>moi
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08:30<andythenorth>o/
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08:35<Samu>hi
08:47<Eddi|zuHause>i have a feeling nothing works today :/
08:48<Wolf01>I'm updating a new game on the wii u, it's saying 5 minutes since 11:20
08:48<Wolf01>It's not even at 50%
08:56<andythenorth>shame the wii u failed
08:56<andythenorth>it's a really nice platform
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09:00<Wolf01>They didn't even belive in it, I only purchased 4 games, included the one bundled, and 2 of them are lego ones
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09:09<Eddi|zuHause>so, i try to start civ6, and then the computer locks up for minutes. afterwards civ6 is gone, all swap is used, and all memory is free
09:11<Eddi|zuHause>also, i tried to disable systemd-coredump like 50 times in the past few years, because it always locks up at 100%
09:11<Eddi|zuHause>and it never works
09:13<Samu>where is cubey
09:17<Wolf01>Just use windows to play games
09:17<Wolf01>:P
09:18<Eddi|zuHause>i tried that, windows wouldn't install
09:18<TrueBrain>you sound like Marvin
09:18<Wolf01>XD
09:23<@Alberth>:D
09:29<andythenorth>I could just do http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png
09:29<andythenorth>reuse the same ship hull again
09:31<andythenorth>I tried lots of variations (on right of the spritesheet) http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/unsinkable-sam/repository/revisions/f9689b1f535b/entry/src/graphics/ships/bulk_carrier_large_template.png
09:37<andythenorth>bbl
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09:44<supermop>yo
09:49<Samu>@seen Cubey
09:49<@DorpsGek>Samu: Cubey was last seen in #openttd 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Cubey> dir /s/b > listfile.txt and then find and replace away the parts of the paths with spaces
09:49<Samu>t.t
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10:44<Samu>I did it!
10:44<Samu>https://pastebin.com/raw/W2Updr7W
10:44<Samu>too bad cubey isn't online
10:45<Samu>doesn't store empty directories though
10:46<Samu>oh, echo del is to be changed to del
10:59<Samu>so bored
11:01*Samu just compressed andythenorth last .png linked, from 39,6 KB (40.626 bytes) to 20,8 KB (21.312 bytes) using paq8px_v138
11:01*TrueBrain just took a dump
11:05<LordAro> TrueBrain: compression!
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11:05<LordAro>of sorts
11:05<TrueBrain>owh, it was compressed!
11:05<TrueBrain>it was 300 grams of pork, now it was 12 grams of pure shit
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11:06<LordAro>not sure we needed that level of detail
11:06<TrueBrain>I wondered the same with what Samu said ...
11:06<LordAro>ah, but Samu is Samu
11:09<Samu>sorry, i'm a bit bored, waiting for the aircraft ai tests to finish
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12:34<Eddi|zuHause>and my ignorelist is my ignorelist
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14:23<andythenorth>o/
14:32<andythenorth>so what boat am I drawing?
14:33<Eddi|zuHause>the enterprise?
14:34<andythenorth>this one? https://wallscover.com/images/star-trek-enterprise-4.jpg
14:34<Eddi|zuHause>for example
14:34<Eddi|zuHause>loads to choose from :p
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14:35<andythenorth>wondering if a tugboat + barge will look good
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14:42<andythenorth>https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg
14:45<Wolf01>Articulated ships
14:49<andythenorth>not needed :P)
14:55<LordAro>andythenorth: http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/stid-trailer-enterprise.jpg looks like a boat to me
14:56<andythenorth>bit random
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14:57<LordAro>https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2013/05/TheTallShipRises.jpg better picture
14:58<andythenorth>does it crash into the sea?
14:58<andythenorth>my trek knowledge is very outdated
14:58<andythenorth>weds 6pm BBC2, NG
14:59<andythenorth>is all I remember
14:59<LordAro>haha
14:59<LordAro>is from Into Darkness
14:59<andythenorth>British people of a certain age will know exactly what 6pm Weds BBC2 means
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15:19<frosch123>http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/5df1674182c3/src/os/windows/ottdres.rc.in#l82 <- glx: what is the effect of the revision number in FILEVERSION and PRODUCTVERSION?
15:19<frosch123>what would break if it was always zero?
15:20<+glx>I think it doesn't really matter
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15:22<frosch123>ok, so we can just drop it
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15:52<andythenorth>so http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8845/bulkier_bulk_3.png
15:52<andythenorth>push barge?
15:52<andythenorth>per https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/coal-barge-paris-seine-river-48405038.jpg
15:52<andythenorth>or I can do the easy route http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8844/bulkier_bulk_2.png
16:07<andythenorth>hmm
16:09<andythenorth>relative sizing
16:09<andythenorth>pita
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16:34<Wolf01>I do 'night
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