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00:23<Flygon>Dumb question.
00:23<Flygon>Has anyone ever commissioned scenarios for geographic regions before?
00:23<Flygon>I mean quite literal paying money.
00:35<Supercheese>Doubtful
00:42<Flygon>Huh.
00:42<Flygon>Hmm. Alright.
00:42<Flygon>tl;dr - Try as I might.
00:43<Flygon>I am awful at making scenarios.
00:43<Flygon>So I'd probably want to some help getting started, New Zealand, specifically.
00:43<Flygon>A 2k by 4k map would be kickass, but... yeah. I'd need some help getting started. xP
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01:01<Eddi|zuHause>uhm, there's like a massive forum thread about making maps from real world geographic data?
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02:37<__ln__>https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/
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---Logclosed Wed May 09 03:07:34 2018
---Logopened Wed May 09 03:07:39 2018
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04:15<Eddi|zuHause>what a crazy innovation
04:39<andythenorth>the date on that post is wrong
04:39<andythenorth>should be April 1 no?
04:40<Eddi|zuHause>i'm fairly sure Notepad was actually written by an intern to teach him the ropes, and nobody dared touch the code for 20 years afterwards
04:40<andythenorth>I have that code too
04:40<andythenorth>it's 10 years old, and we might be deleting it soon
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05:48<Eddi|zuHause>i really wonder how long this "embrace" phase for windows vs linux lasts
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06:09<V453000>andythenorth: big boy 24/8, win guaranteed
06:09<andythenorth>where to bend it?
06:09<andythenorth>"Big Horse" roster
06:09<andythenorth>when is Slug Horse?
06:14<V453000>giga horse
06:15<Arveen>needs more hats
06:15<andythenorth>Mega Horse
06:21<peter1138>Just wait for the new map array...
06:22<andythenorth>is there a patch for it?
06:25<peter1138>Probably.
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07:18<V453000>well at least I finally got myself to start doing something :D https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9040/train-scrapyard.png
07:20<V453000>iz lego
07:21<andythenorth>error
07:21<andythenorth>no monorail
07:22<@Alberth>hi hi
07:23<V453000>yeah monorail is getting bullied and excluded I think
07:23<V453000>not conclusive
07:23<V453000>easy to add, just need to make a monorail wheel part & voila compatible
07:23<V453000>need to invent how to make maglev wheel part & how to make 3rd tier of rail wheel
07:24<andythenorth>off-road train wheels
07:24<@Alberth>andy: Is there a known problem with rubber & firs 3.0.3 & opengfx trains?
07:24<andythenorth>not that I know of
07:24<andythenorth>V453000: https://www.mariowiki.com/Cyber_Slick
07:25<@Alberth>train refuses to load it
07:26<andythenorth>hmm
07:28<@Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/firs_steel_opengfx_plus_19500726.sav
07:28<@Alberth>OpenTTD 20180428-g91311948
07:29<@Alberth>BB seems to crash on load, no idea why
07:29<@Alberth>perhaps I have a different BB in ym path
07:31<andythenorth>BB crashes on load for child #1 as well
07:31<andythenorth>I didn't investigate
07:32<andythenorth>he has a recent binary from the new CF
07:44<V453000>andythenorth: that still kind of looks like wheel, 0/10 :P
07:46<andythenorth>has mag mode eh
07:46<@Alberth>make it square?
07:46<@Alberth>or ellipsiod?
07:47<V453000>I think random electronic looking rectangular bottom is nuf
07:47<@Alberth>hmm, skis :p
07:47<V453000>will see
07:47<V453000>but 3 levels of wheel?
07:47<@Alberth>:)
07:47<V453000>2+2 and 3+3 only good enough for 2 levels of rail wheel
07:47<andythenorth>http://gamesharkreviews.com/imgs/guide/GSR-Guide-MarioKart8TipsandTricks-d5d3db1765287eef77d7927cc956f50a-0_image.jpg
07:47<andythenorth>V453000: different lengths of wheel
07:47<andythenorth>wheel speed limits
07:48<andythenorth>also depot-flip wheels
07:48<V453000>mag horizontal wheel like that would work
07:48<V453000>what do you mean different lengths of wheel :D
07:49<andythenorth>integer wheels
07:49*andythenorth is just saying words
07:49<V453000>I guess lvl1 could have just a singular wheel at the front or something? :D
07:50<V453000>2+3 as a middle level sounds a bit weird
07:50<V453000>option is something really different, like the treads in road wheel
07:50<V453000>but how do you make different rail wheel
07:50<andythenorth>well
07:50<V453000>iz question
07:51<andythenorth>dunno
07:51<andythenorth>but also I want subtype refits
07:51<andythenorth>for both type of tyre, and inflation pressure
07:51<V453000>:D
07:51<andythenorth>srsly we need ctrl-click cycle
07:51<andythenorth>peter1138: ^
07:51<andythenorth>up to 16 values for a counter, incremented on ctrl-click in depot
07:52<V453000>does that mean removing flipping? :P
07:52<andythenorth>make it a flag
07:52<andythenorth>newgrf can either have openttd default flipping
07:52<andythenorth>or handle own flipping
07:52<andythenorth>and vars
07:52<V453000>sense it makes
07:52<andythenorth>I have to handle flipping myself anyway, it didn't work
07:53<andythenorth>this only works well for visual stuff, there's no option for wanky info text
07:53<andythenorth>so if you want, say, fat slicks on alloys at 40 PSI
07:54<andythenorth>you don't get words to choose that with
07:54<V453000>I like the idea
07:54<V453000>at the same time, I just implement randomness, but yeah this would give you more control
07:55<V453000>randomness = all users get nice stuff
07:55<V453000>ctrl+click = bunch of nerds enjoy customizing their shit
07:55<V453000>both have their benefits :)
07:56<andythenorth>I use it to over-ride the randomness :P
07:56*andythenorth -> works
07:56<V453000>well that would work fine :)
07:56<V453000>I go walk the animal, evening continues wheel things.
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12:59<Wolf01>o/
13:01<V453000>WHAT DOES IT MEAN
13:02<Wolf01>Heil slugz
13:02<frosch123>"o/" is a snail, a slug would be "_/"
13:02<Wolf01>Eh
13:03<frosch123>@/
13:03<Wolf01>That's a snail!
13:05<V453000>V@_
13:05<Wolf01>Even better, can you do it more detailed?
13:07<V453000>no I just use this
13:07<frosch123>ڡ
13:07<V453000>sometimes v@_
13:08<V453000>or
13:08<V453000>v_@_
13:08<V453000>alternatively V_@_
13:08<frosch123>it's probably an insult
13:08<V453000>:D
13:08<V453000>well anything could be an insult
13:08<Wolf01>:D
13:11<V453000>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9041/train-scrapyard-2.png
13:11<V453000>let's see how much I can save with proper materials and textures, but as a concept it seems to work
13:12<Wolf01>Whoa
13:12<Wolf01>The tracked one is fantastic XD
13:14<V453000>the tank/dozer treads?
13:14<Wolf01>Yes
13:14<V453000>yeah that one's my favourite
13:14<Wolf01>Oh, I have news for the cat, photos of the new lego technic set of this summer
13:14<V453000>I'm not too convinced with the maglev circular tech though
13:15<Wolf01>They look so matrix
13:15*Wolf01 summons the cat
13:16<V453000>I think overwatch cars use that shit which is why I really don't want to use it
13:17<V453000>https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-ab&biw=2208&bih=1324&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=JS3zWrLqAtDdwQLAyqnIBw&q=overwatch+levitating+cars&oq=overwatch+levitating+cars&gs_l=img.3...6320.7720.0.7900.11.11.0.0.0.0.84.734.11.11.0....0...1c.1.64.img..0.1.82...0j0i24k1.0.vQmKpUjTJ_Q#imgrc=Qz_oFOX6rrjhaM:
13:17<V453000>:|
13:18<Wolf01>Eh, it's a classic
13:19<V453000>Yeah but I don't feel like the circular shape is necessary, will need to test things
13:19<V453000>just need to find the alternative
13:19<frosch123>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Vasnetsov_samolet.jpg
13:19<frosch123>moves similar to slugs
13:20<V453000>nay
13:20<V453000>this should be a train not a carpet :P
13:20<Wolf01>:D
13:21<V453000>but in general this is the concept :)
13:21<V453000>I'll probably finish this one engine, add an entire wagon generation to it, and code a full prototype
13:22<frosch123>the cars in 5th element look like ships
13:22<V453000>likely release that as 0.0.1
13:23<V453000>yes they do :D I think a metal bottom with electric-like neon glow is going to work
13:23<V453000>+-
13:23<Wolf01>Browse some retro futuristic stuff
13:25<frosch123>i can't find a picture for the btf3 train
13:26<Wolf01>https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bttf/images/9/91/Timetrain.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131025205033 like this one?
13:26<V453000>another thing is that I already have the BRIX maglev, and the train set is going to define it's own PURR maglev ... that already has the design of single rail so I should have a hole in the middle of the train, but I have the connector there already :D so eh
13:27<Wolf01>Cylinder train
13:29<frosch123>yes, but i did not remember it like that :p
13:37<V453000>https://gajitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/hildebrands-futuristic-trains.jpg
13:40<V453000>yeah fuck it I will figure something out
13:43<Wolf01>Ship on rails
13:44<frosch123>it says it's a chocolate wrapper
13:44<Wolf01>Yeah, I was able to read that :D
13:47<Wolf01>peter1138: https://youtu.be/2VtWC38nWOY
13:55<V453000>BTW 16/8 locomotives ftw
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15:58<andythenorth>o/
15:58<andythenorth>TrueBrain: host anything in Canada? o_O
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