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02:35<andythenorth>o/
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04:06<peter1138>Hi
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04:23<andythenorth>lo
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04:28<peter1138>lo bob
04:28<peter1138>So I would maybe do more branches tonight, but I gotta go see Bill Bailey instead </chore>
04:36<andythenorth>for shame
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10:22<supermop_work>yo
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10:32<supermop_work>hi Alberth
10:32<@Alberth>hi hi
10:39<peter1138>Hi
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12:13<andythenorth>lo
12:14<LordAro>ol
12:17<andythenorth>so stations in tunnels?
12:18<@Alberth>o/
12:19<@Alberth>you're reading a random suggestion thread? :)
12:21<andythenorth>I have an 8 year old :P
12:21<andythenorth>I asked him what to put in next Horse
12:21<andythenorth>he has invented instead a new way to do metros
12:22<Thedarkb>I'm looking for a NewGRF with just a horse and cart.
12:22<Thedarkb>Where can I get one?
12:22<Thedarkb>I don't want it to be completely ship dominated from 1830 to about 1860 on my server.
12:27<andythenorth>egrvts has horse and cart
12:27<andythenorth>but also many other things
12:28<Thedarkb>I just installed PolRoads.
12:28<Thedarkb>The polish cars should fit in.
12:38<@Alberth>make subway industry :)
12:39<peter1138>Time for...
12:40<peter1138>You got it. Minecraft.
12:40<andythenorth>is Bill Bailey in Minecraft? :o
12:41<peter1138>Possibly.
12:41<peter1138>Another day, another new snapshot.
12:48<andythenorth>so who's drawing Horse for me? o_O
12:49<andythenorth>[crickets]
12:59<@Alberth>horse can't draw itself, I guess :(
13:05<andythenorth>I've tried teaching it
13:05<andythenorth>I wondered about automating \ and / views :P
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13:10<Wolf01>o/
13:14<andythenorth>hi Wolf01
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13:43<Eddi|zuHause>andythenorth: cubicles!!
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13:46<Wolf01>Eddi|zuHause: tes... better not, there might be children :P
13:51<Wolf01>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=83308 I see no point on him trying to hide the fact that he changed grfs... when all we know that even the little change might have an effect after many hours of playing
14:05<andythenorth>acs121 is mostly wrong about most things
14:05<andythenorth>these things happen :P
14:14<andythenorth>in \ / views, these shapes are....regrettable :| http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/iron-horse/push/LATEST/docs/html/trains.html#tank_car_pony_gen_6B
14:14<@Alberth>like the pixel tool by zephrys
14:15<andythenorth>pixeltools is not very good for cylinders :)
14:15<andythenorth>pixeltool
14:15<@Alberth>it gives you a start?
14:16<@Alberth>or is it so bad, you can just start from scratch again :p
14:16<andythenorth>it's easier to just draw it
14:16<andythenorth>in theory pixeltool can do it
14:16<@Alberth>seems plausible, once you know how to draw pixels
14:17<Eddi|zuHause>if you automate it, you should automate it all the way, if you need touchups to every single sprite afterwards, it's probably pointless
14:17<@Alberth>I agree
14:18<andythenorth>that's why I haven't automated drawing sprites
14:18<andythenorth>seems like it might be twice the work, by the end
14:18<andythenorth>I started on the / view here, but it's really bad https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/graphics/pony/tank_car_pony_gen_6C.png
14:19<Eddi|zuHause>https://xkcd.com/2000/ <-- somehow i have no clue what half of these things are
14:21<LordAro>Eddi|zuHause: explainxkcd.com
14:21<Eddi|zuHause>nah, that's cheating
14:22<LordAro>:p
14:23<andythenorth>'standard usb connector'
14:23<andythenorth>:P
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>well, that one has about a dozen layers to it :p
14:24<Eddi|zuHause>like, you know, https://xkcd.com/927/
14:25<andythenorth>https://xkcd.com/380/
14:26<LordAro>https://xkcd.com/562/ <3
14:28<Eddi|zuHause>recently i was scolded by an elderly woman who had trouble getting out of her car, because she didn't adhere to the parking spot lines, and blamed me for parking too close to her car
14:28<Wolf01>:D
14:30<Eddi|zuHause>and when i pointed her to what she did wrong, she just said "well nobody really pays attention to those..."
14:36<andythenorth>true then, true now https://xkcd.com/1987/
14:38<Eddi|zuHause>how long between this https://xkcd.com/353/ and that one?
14:43<andythenorth>about 2 weeks
14:43<andythenorth>depends how much stuff one pastes from Stack Overflow
14:44<andythenorth>is there an XKCD about not pasting from Stack Overflow? o_O
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14:53<frosch123>there is stacksort
14:54<gelignite>not xkcd, but there is this one http://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2016/11/27/good-questions
14:54<andythenorth>that got a lot of Horse drawn :P
14:55<andythenorth>https://gkoberger.github.io/stacksort/
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15:37<andythenorth>1024
15:40<@Alberth>trains?
15:40<andythenorth>2048
15:40<@Alberth>oh :)
15:40<andythenorth>started playing again
15:40<andythenorth>got 2048 first time, on a fluke
15:41<@Alberth>it's too simple
15:41<andythenorth>been trying again for a few days :P
15:41<andythenorth>some days I need simple :P
15:41<@Alberth>I play patience games
15:47<Eddi|zuHause>as in solitaire?
15:48<@Alberth>spider with a limited number of cards
15:49<@Alberth>ie 2 suits
15:49<Eddi|zuHause>i play spider with 4 colours, but i haven't really played in a while
15:50<Eddi|zuHause>most games are winnable, but some take a few times going back to the start
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15:56<andythenorth>hmm
15:56<andythenorth>not sure I understand spider :)
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>it does have a learning curve
15:56<Eddi|zuHause>start with one colour :p
15:58<andythenorth>oh
15:58<andythenorth>so it's not red-black :P
15:58<Eddi|zuHause>no, you need to have columns of the same colour
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16:03<Eddi|zuHause>hm, this looked like the worst spider start ever, and suddenly i have 2 empty slots?
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16:08<andythenorth>ok that's quite fun on single suit
16:08<andythenorth>is single suit 'always win'?
16:09<@Alberth>no, but most of the times it is
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16:13<Eddi|zuHause>i have a really hard time coming up with an unwinnable one
16:14<Eddi|zuHause>you can, however, easily screw it up
16:17<andythenorth>single suit seems like you could get caught at the end
16:17<andythenorth>with last cards out of deck
16:19<Eddi|zuHause>it depends a bit on how strict your game client is
16:20<Eddi|zuHause>like, you could have not enough cards to fill all the slots with at least one card, and the game would refuse to deal new cards with empty slots
16:21<Eddi|zuHause>but that also is solvable if the game lets you undo enough
16:22<Eddi|zuHause>otherwise you need some extremely crazy setup to have no moves after the last deal, in a way you can't prevent by putting the right cards below
16:24<Eddi|zuHause>so, i won the 4-colour game
16:25<andythenorth>maybe I should try 2 colour
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16:48<andythenorth>2 colour is harder :P
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17:06<LANJesus>green and magenta. c'mon
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18:02<Wolf01>'night
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18:32<LordAro>random thought, why are the generated sq api files checked into the repo, rather the generated at build time?
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18:44<+glx>LordAro: think MSVC
18:45<+glx>and nobody tried to write the scripts in a windows "native" language
18:47<LordAro>ah yes
18:47<LordAro>can't include vbs as part of the build script, i guess?
18:48<+glx>it can be included
18:48<+glx>as we can regenerate project files from MSVC
18:48<+glx>just by building the generate project
18:49<+glx>it's just nobody done it for sq api
18:49<LordAro>fair
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