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04:09<V453000>https://blog.factoriomaps.com/factoriommo-clusterio-60k/
04:09<V453000>:)
04:11<LordAro>its*
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04:12<LordAro>cool tho
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05:17<Pikka>oops
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06:51<ANIKHTOS>hello to all
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11:35<ANIKHTOS>lets say i have 3 variables a,b c and i make a switch function a+b+c=0; a+b=0 ; a=0l a not 0 how c++ will handle this switch?? when all a=b=c=0 what will happen ? execute 1 part of code or 3 parts??
11:43<FLHerne>ANIKHTOS: Switch cases can only be constant expressions, so you can't do that
11:44<ANIKHTOS>s- a+b=C-o is nto consider a constant??
11:45<ANIKHTOS>a+b+c=0
11:45<Eddi|zuHause>the first thing you should learn is that = is not the operator for comparison. == is
11:46<nielsm>yes, in C and C++, a single = means "assign to the thing on the left" (change the value)
11:46<nielsm>a double == means "compare the two sides for equality"
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11:49<LordAro>maybe you ahould start with functional programming :p
11:49<ANIKHTOS>can i have a switch with a+b+c==0, a+b==0 a==0 a not 0???
11:50<ANIKHTOS>can i ahve this switch or it is nor possible??
11:50<LordAro>i think we need a bit more information about what you're trying to achieve
11:51<ANIKHTOS>there will be 3 coutners that will reset
11:51<LordAro>what code do you have so far? (put it on pastebin.com or whereever)
11:51<ANIKHTOS>and when the coutner reach 0 i want a code to run
11:51<ANIKHTOS>but dependign if i have 1 at 0 2 at 0 or 3 at zero i want diferent outcome and oen case none is zero
11:53<ANIKHTOS>i can do it with a nested if else function
11:54<nielsm>yes you have to make a series of "if ... else if ... else ..."
11:55<nielsm>I think you said you have worked with visual basic before, right?
11:55<nielsm>I remember that you can do "select case 0 of when a+b+c when a+b ..." or something like that
11:55<nielsm>that's not possible in c++
11:56<nielsm>you can make the same logic but you have to express it with an if/else chain
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11:57<ANIKHTOS>well okey i can make the constant a+b+c then cases 0, c a+b other
11:57<ANIKHTOS>can i do this ??
11:57<ANIKHTOS>it will check the sum of a,b,c to 4 cases
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12:00<ANIKHTOS>okey general in c++ in swittch if more than 1 brach is true what c++ do execute all that matches or only the first that is true and then leave the switch ??
12:01<nielsm>C++ switches should be thought of as jump tables
12:02<nielsm>it jumps to the case label that has the value the switch expression is calculated to
12:02<nielsm>(or the default case if none matches)
12:02<LordAro>ANIKHTOS: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/cplusplus/index.htm start here, come back when you've read everything :)
12:03<ANIKHTOS>thanks lorara
12:03<ANIKHTOS>i am reading some sites
12:03<ANIKHTOS>and i am tryign to figuere out the diferences between c and visual basic
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12:04<LordAro>actually, that link is terrible, try this one: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
12:04<LordAro>(switches are under "Control Structures")
12:10<ANIKHTOS>thats what i am reading lord ara
12:10<ANIKHTOS>the secodn link you send is what i read
12:10<Eddi|zuHause>whatever you think a switch does in C++, it does something completely different from what you think
12:11<LANJesus>i imagine a switch in C++ does roughly the same thing as it does in C
12:11<LANJesus>basically a jump table
12:12<Eddi|zuHause>and for what you are trying to do, a switch is (probably) not your solution
12:13<LANJesus>if elseif chains are fun
12:13<ANIKHTOS>they are fun but i always forget co lose 1
12:13<ANIKHTOS>and in the end it take me so many horus to figure out which one is nto closed
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12:15<planetmaker_>o/
12:15<planetmaker_>ANIKHTOS, that might be MUCH easier with the proper editor :)
12:17<ANIKHTOS>well i mange to *#%* even the editor because i copy paste lots of code to spead up the writing and ljust add the difference so some time i delete a brancket and all hell break loose
12:19<ANIKHTOS>is tthere anywhere a reference how heavy is each function to be run?? for optimizign the code and make it lighter to run??
12:20<nielsm>not something general that I know of
12:20<nielsm>division is very slow, multiplication is somewhat slow, addition and subtraction is fast
12:21<nielsm>string operations are somewhat slow
12:21<ANIKHTOS>thanks a lot nielsen that helps alot
12:21<nielsm>but what really matters is your algorithms
12:22<nielsm>allocating memory can be slow but it depends on the specific circumstances, and OTTD has several cases of custom allocators and pools that change this around
12:22<LordAro>rule 0: don't try to optimise until you need to
12:22<nielsm>yeah ^^
12:22<nielsm>make it work, then make it fast
12:22<LordAro>(rule -1: plan ahead so you don't need to ;) )
12:22<ANIKHTOS>well once i wrote a code make a test scenario and the computer crahed lol
12:23<ANIKHTOS>the code was workign fine but it took so much powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to execute
12:23<ANIKHTOS>i throw the code out the window re write ti and th enew code was actuall usable
12:23<LordAro>i'd suggest that the code was not working fine :p
12:24<ANIKHTOS>it worked fine
12:24<nielsm>if it crashes you're doing something wrong
12:24<ANIKHTOS>it was in a database
12:24<nielsm>possibly trying to allocate more memory than possible
12:24<ANIKHTOS>when datebase was msall all good
12:24<ANIKHTOS>when i make database huge for test it crashed
12:25<ANIKHTOS>okey it was 100% cpu power for ever to finish
12:25<LordAro>ANIKHTOS: do try to watch your spelling, it's getting a bit hard to read
12:25<ANIKHTOS>i close the database manual
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13:29<Wolf01>o/
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13:49<Wolf01>Quak
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13:52<frosch123>moo
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14:29<Wolf01>https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=83359 really?
14:30<Wolf01>Eddi|zuHause: go and post "state machine" :P
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16:55<ANIKHTOS>hello all
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17:47<Eddi|zuHause>Wolf01: how did that become my job?
17:47<Wolf01>You always do it :P
17:54<supermop_work_>hmm shunting now?
17:58<Wolf01>'night
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22:46<Soni>does openttd have lewd/porn mods?
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22:55<supermop>...
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23:23<Supercheese>well, George's LongVehicles have some... odd pixels
23:23<Supercheese>IIRC
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