--- | Log | opened Fri Jul 13 00:00:32 2018 |
00:15 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@00022bb9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
00:17 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
00:17 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
00:17 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
00:23 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
00:37 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
00:37 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
00:37 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
00:44 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
00:44 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@69.51.16.249] has joined #openttd |
00:44 | -!- | techmagus is "Yahanan Xie" on #openttd #tor #/r/openttd |
00:53 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
00:59 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
00:59 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
00:59 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
01:06 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
01:14 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #openttd |
01:14 | -!- | KouDy is "KouDy" on #openttd |
01:17 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: snail_UES_] |
01:22 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
01:23 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
01:23 | -!- | Supercheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
01:24 | -!- | Guest1010 [~user@7MPAAAJJC.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
01:24 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
01:24 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
01:24 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
01:28 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
01:28 | -!- | snail_UES_ is "Jacopo Coletto" on #openttd |
01:30 | -!- | RafiX [~rafix@public-gprs351594.centertel.pl] has joined #openttd |
01:30 | -!- | RafiX is "rafix" on #C #openttd |
01:30 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [] |
01:31 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
01:35 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
01:59 | -!- | drdoom [~gmiller@ip-52-44-244-173.seattle.us.northamericancoax.com] has joined #openttd |
01:59 | -!- | drdoom is "purple" on #openttd |
02:11 | -!- | Extrems [gamecube@expert.extremscorner.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
02:14 | -!- | Extrems [gamecube@expert.extremscorner.org] has joined #openttd |
02:14 | -!- | Extrems is "https://www.extremscorner.org/" on #openttd #gcc |
02:16 | -!- | andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc87219-aztw31-2-0-cust178.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd |
02:16 | -!- | andythenorth is "andythenorth" on #openttd |
02:25 | -!- | andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc87219-aztw31-2-0-cust178.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] |
02:41 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] |
02:54 | -!- | drdoom [~gmiller@ip-52-44-244-173.seattle.us.northamericancoax.com] has left #openttd [] |
04:09 | -!- | cHawk [~chawk@p200300E9CBC85A01FCF0009C08879474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd |
04:09 | -!- | cHawk is "realname" on #openttd #tor |
04:46 | -!- | debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:41a6:3700:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd |
04:46 | -!- | debdog is "Wowbagger" on #openttd |
05:31 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has joined #openttd |
05:31 | -!- | Thedarkb is "realname" on #oolite #openttd #/r/openttd |
06:46 | -!- | ToBeFree is "ToBeFree" on @#freiwuppertal #debian @#InfiniteAdventures |
06:46 | -!- | ToBeFree [uid51591@id-51591.tooting.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd |
06:47 | -!- | ToBeFree [uid51591@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has quit [] |
07:25 | -!- | andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc87219-aztw31-2-0-cust178.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd |
07:25 | -!- | andythenorth is "andythenorth" on #openttd |
07:35 | <andythenorth> | o/ |
07:36 | -!- | Borg [~borg@87-99-43-52.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd |
07:36 | -!- | Borg is "Unknown" on #openttd |
07:36 | <Borg> | howdy.. any schedule for 1.8.1 ? |
07:37 | <andythenorth> | there's never a schedule Borg :) |
07:37 | <andythenorth> | there's a general aim for a release around April 1 each year ;) |
07:38 | <LordAro> | got to work out how to do releases again first |
07:38 | <andythenorth> | currently we can't build binaries, because a new compile farm is being engineered |
07:40 | <andythenorth> | on the upside, there are a *lot* of features and fixes since 1.8.0 |
07:45 | <Borg> | yeah.. I saw targets.. like C++14 or C++17... :( |
07:57 | <peter1138> | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/13/python_creator_guido_van_rossum_quits/ |
07:57 | <peter1138> | oo |
07:57 | <LordAro> | Borg: ":(" ? |
07:58 | <LordAro> | peter1138: ikr |
07:58 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
08:00 | -!- | roidal [~roland@62-46-140-108.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd |
08:00 | -!- | roidal is "roland" on #openttd |
08:05 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has joined #openttd |
08:05 | -!- | Thedarkb is "realname" on #oolite #openttd #/r/openttd |
08:20 | <andythenorth> | unusual lack of snark from el reg |
08:21 | <andythenorth> | "From us here at The Register: good luck, Guido. We know that plenty of our readers enjoy and profit from your work. Thanks for your labours and a language that’s made a big difference. " |
08:24 | -!- | cHawk [~chawk@p200300E9CBC85A01FCF0009C08879474.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] |
08:58 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
08:58 | -!- | snail_UES_ is "Jacopo Coletto" on #openttd |
09:08 | -!- | swedneck[m] [~swedneckm@2001:470:1af1:101::190e] has joined #openttd |
09:08 | -!- | swedneck[m] is "@swedneck:matrix.org" on #openttd #osm |
09:11 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: snail_UES_] |
09:22 | -!- | nielsm [~nielsm@62-243-118-198-cable.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd |
09:22 | -!- | nielsm is "Niels Martin Hansen" on #openttd #tycoon |
09:24 | -!- | synchris [~synchris@139.138.202.72] has joined #openttd |
09:24 | -!- | synchris is "Synesios Christou" on #openttd |
09:25 | <FLHerne> | Eh, they're always much nicer about individuals than faceless megaprojects |
09:25 | * | FLHerne hopes they repeal PEP 572 now :-/ |
09:25 | <FLHerne> | It really is horrible |
09:26 | <FLHerne> | I remember when I first started with Python being quite frustrated that I couldn't do assignments in the middle of things |
09:27 | <FLHerne> | But there's almost always a better alternative |
09:44 | -!- | juzza1 [~juzza1@0001bead.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
09:44 | -!- | juzza1 is "juzza1" on #openttd #openttdcoop.devzone |
09:45 | <LordAro> | it needs rust's approach - everything is an expression that can be assigned - or nothing at all, imo |
09:45 | <LordAro> | the usecases for it otherwise are vanishingly small |
09:47 | <peter1138> | Ooops, my salt-state package install also installed recommended packages... 280MB later... ;( |
09:48 | <peter1138> | Pretty sure I don't need java and X libraries on there. |
10:06 | -!- | sim-al2 [~sim-al2@c-75-65-196-171.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
10:45 | -!- | Alberth [~alberth@00015f9e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
10:45 | -!- | Alberth is "purple" on #openttd |
10:45 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ |
10:45 | <@Alberth> | o/ |
10:51 | <andythenorth> | hi Alberth |
10:52 | -!- | Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd |
10:52 | -!- | Gja is "Martin" on #ceph #bcache #openttd |
10:54 | -!- | Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd |
10:54 | -!- | Wormnest is "Wormnest" on #openttd |
11:32 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
11:32 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
11:32 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
11:36 | -!- | HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@dslb-188-106-197-208.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #openttd |
11:36 | -!- | HerzogDeXtEr is "purple" on #openttd |
11:59 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
11:59 | <andythenorth> | FIRS Extreme |
11:59 | <andythenorth> | I can't even draw the chains :P |
12:18 | <@Alberth> | just draw a fully connected graph :) |
12:18 | <@Alberth> | 'close approximation' :) |
12:19 | <andythenorth> | I think I need to fix on specific sub-chains |
12:19 | <andythenorth> | like the ECS vectors, only all in one grf |
12:20 | <andythenorth> | I am expanding the chemicals chain |
12:20 | <andythenorth> | but it makes my head hurt tbh |
12:21 | <andythenorth> | it varies a lot by era and geography |
12:21 | <andythenorth> | some processes use chemical 1 as a feedstock to produce chemical 2 |
12:21 | <andythenorth> | and others seem to use chemical 2 as the feedstock for chemical 1 |
12:21 | <andythenorth> | very confusing |
12:22 | <andythenorth> | sulphur, salt and chlorine are very interconnected :P |
12:22 | <andythenorth> | and ammonia |
12:23 | <FLHerne> | andythenorth: Do we really need this many cargoes? :-/ |
12:23 | <FLHerne> | I mean, I thought I was one for overcomplicating things |
12:23 | <andythenorth> | of course not |
12:23 | <andythenorth> | but where's the harm? o_O |
12:24 | <andythenorth> | at this point it's a game of whether I can make it good with 48 cargos |
12:24 | <FLHerne> | But normal FIRS is already about as many as I can sanely do anything with |
12:24 | <andythenorth> | I agree |
12:24 | <andythenorth> | but sometimes we have to go to 11 |
12:24 | <andythenorth> | if I fail, there's always FIRS 3 |
12:25 | <andythenorth> | if MOAR was obviously better I might not bother :) |
12:25 | <andythenorth> | probability is that MOAR is worse |
12:25 | -!- | Progman [~progman@p4FD66C85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd |
12:25 | -!- | Progman is "Peter Henschel" on #openttdcoop.dev #openttdcoop #openttd |
12:25 | <andythenorth> | but why climb Everest instead of Snowdon? |
12:25 | <FLHerne> | I see :P |
12:26 | <FLHerne> | Should I bend my frame to 130mm OLD, or respace this hub to 126mm and put up with having >10mm offset? |
12:26 | <andythenorth> | have you got frame-bending tools? |
12:27 | <FLHerne> | I have some bits of wood and string |
12:27 | <andythenorth> | the offset is already bothering you :) |
12:27 | <andythenorth> | so you have to bend |
12:27 | <andythenorth> | but if you break it.... |
12:28 | <FLHerne> | Eh, it's fairly heavily-built for a road frame, it'll probably be fine :P |
12:29 | <FLHerne> | I guess I could just spring it, like I did with the old one |
12:29 | <FLHerne> | But that was a nuisance |
12:31 | <FLHerne> | You think 10mm would be too much offset? |
12:31 | * | FLHerne doesn't have much experience fiddling with wheels |
12:33 | <andythenorth> | hmm |
12:33 | <andythenorth> | dunno :) |
12:34 | <andythenorth> | ammonia should come from primary industry eh |
12:34 | <andythenorth> | haber-bosch thing |
12:36 | -!- | Flygon [~Flygon@124-148-170-189.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
12:46 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
12:51 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has joined #openttd |
12:51 | -!- | Thedarkb is "realname" on #oolite #openttd #/r/openttd |
12:59 | -!- | frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
12:59 | -!- | frosch123 is "frosch" on #openttdcoop.devzone #openttd.dev #openttd |
13:06 | -!- | sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@78.96.209.89] has joined #openttd |
13:06 | -!- | sla_ro|master is "slamaster" on @#sla #openttd |
13:09 | <andythenorth> | ammonia, soda ash -> detergent factory -> goods(?) |
13:09 | <andythenorth> | is that goods? |
13:09 | <andythenorth> | I could add a lot of town cargos |
13:18 | <nielsm> | household goods |
13:18 | <FLHerne> | You could add a distinction between wholesale goods and local-delivery, with warehouses and distribution centres :P |
13:18 | <nielsm> | yeah |
13:19 | <FLHerne> | Supermarkets accept wholesale goods, obviously |
13:20 | <FLHerne> | No, scale |
13:20 | <FLHerne> | Retail parks |
13:21 | <nielsm> | can some of the destinations perhaps be regular town buildings? can they be made to accept any goods or are they limited to just passengers/mail/food/goods? |
13:22 | <nielsm> | (I guess food and goods is still enough, for edible and non-edible consumables palleted for smaller scale retail) |
13:28 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
13:29 | -!- | Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
13:29 | -!- | Wolf01 is "Wolf01" on #openttd |
13:33 | <andythenorth> | warehouse |
13:34 | <Wolf01> | o/ |
13:37 | <andythenorth> | what cargo label for ammonia? |
13:37 | <andythenorth> | ammo? :P |
13:37 | <nielsm> | NH? |
13:37 | <nielsm> | NH3 |
13:39 | <nielsm> | teach the players chemistry :) |
13:39 | <Wolf01> | Project 5: sightseer does exactly that |
13:39 | <andythenorth> | it's NH4 in industrial form |
13:39 | <andythenorth> | cargo labels are 4 letters |
13:39 | <andythenorth> | or so |
13:39 | <nielsm> | that's ammonium |
13:40 | <nielsm> | NH3 is ammonia, NH4 is ammonium |
13:40 | <andythenorth> | you're right |
13:40 | <andythenorth> | I am misreading, again |
13:45 | -!- | gelignite [~gelignite@55d4f7de.access.ecotel.net] has joined #openttd |
13:45 | -!- | gelignite is "gelignite" on #openttd #openttdcoop.devzone |
13:49 | <andythenorth> | is amonnia unit volume, or weight? |
13:49 | <andythenorth> | ammonia * |
13:50 | <nielsm> | weight is my guess |
13:53 | <Eddi|zuHause> | ok, this "space chem" game is insane... |
13:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | or it's making me insane... |
13:54 | <Eddi|zuHause> | probably both |
13:54 | <nielsm> | wikipedia says "30% of agricultural nitrogen applied in the USA is in the form of anhydrous ammonia and worldwide 110 million tonnes are applied each year." |
13:54 | <Wolf01> | Ahahah I was tempted to run it too |
13:54 | <nielsm> | tonnes |
13:59 | -!- | Borg [~borg@87-99-43-52.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] |
14:13 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@00022bb9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
14:26 | -!- | Maraxus [~chatzilla@87-56-231-247-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd |
14:26 | -!- | Maraxus is "Maraxus" on #openttd #factoriocoop @#openttdcoop.stable @#openttdcoop |
14:27 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@50.37.120.60] has joined #openttd |
14:27 | -!- | Supercheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
14:28 | <andythenorth> | where does salt come from then? o_O |
14:29 | <@Alberth> | the sea |
14:29 | <andythenorth> | salt mine? |
14:29 | <andythenorth> | brine well? |
14:29 | <@Alberth> | mines too, I think |
14:30 | <@Alberth> | just pump water into the mine, it returns with salt |
14:32 | <andythenorth> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Kali_(Heringen) |
14:32 | <Eddi|zuHause> | what's wrong with "the steam cloud"? |
14:32 | -!- | Maraxus [~chatzilla@87-56-231-247-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] |
14:34 | <Eddi|zuHause> | at my place, these kind of mountains are made from copper mining byproducts |
15:12 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@2604:5040:10:bb65::1] has joined #openttd |
15:12 | -!- | techmagus is "Yahanan Xie" on #tor #openttd #/r/openttd |
15:13 | <frosch123> | andythenorth: brine sounds most interesting of the options |
15:13 | <frosch123> | it's liquid at least |
15:15 | <andythenorth> | yeah I figured the same |
15:15 | <andythenorth> | currently I have salt as by product of potash mine |
15:15 | <andythenorth> | like Eddi's Monte Kali |
15:15 | <andythenorth> | but it seems dull |
15:18 | <nielsm> | what if a newgrf industry could dictate that it always gets built together with another industry? |
15:19 | <frosch123> | they can check for existing industries nearby |
15:19 | <frosch123> | andy knows better whether that worked good, or deadlocked too often |
15:19 | <nielsm> | sure |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | I have done it in one case |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | it's not super reliably |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | it would be quite easy to deadlock imho |
15:20 | <nielsm> | but then you have to hope that the game wants to build both |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | yes |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | the risk isn't so much deadlocking TTD |
15:20 | <nielsm> | and hits the right spot in the random location trials |
15:20 | <andythenorth> | it's getting a pathologically stupid map :) |
15:21 | -!- | sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@78.96.209.89] has quit [] |
15:21 | <nielsm> | my idea is pretty much having a kind of interlocked industry pairs |
15:22 | <nielsm> | so whenever one is built, the other is also built, and if one shuts down they both shut down |
15:22 | <andythenorth> | nah |
15:22 | <andythenorth> | shut down is not controlled easily |
15:22 | <andythenorth> | nor triggering build |
15:22 | <andythenorth> | GS _could_ do it |
15:22 | <andythenorth> | but it is blind to newgrf, by design, so eh |
15:22 | <nielsm> | well what if it was added as a feature :) |
15:23 | <andythenorth> | then it gets interesting |
15:23 | * | andythenorth wonders if bundles builds hg branches |
15:24 | <frosch123> | nielsm: can you give an example, which industries would you pair? |
15:24 | <andythenorth> | maybe the branch is a jenkins setting |
15:24 | <andythenorth> | but I am locked out of jenkins, so I can't check |
15:24 | <andythenorth> | :P |
15:24 | <frosch123> | usually we have use-cases to put certain industries not close to each other, so you can transport between them |
15:25 | <frosch123> | but you seem to want to do the opposite: put industries near to each other |
15:25 | <andythenorth> | in FIRS, the blast furnace and oxygen furnace are examples |
15:25 | <andythenorth> | one feeds the other |
15:25 | <nielsm> | for example the previously mentioned kalimanjaro, have it be a separate industry that always appears near a potash kiln |
15:26 | <andythenorth> | it's not just an IRL thing in Steeltown, it also makes for really hard station building |
15:26 | <nielsm> | for cargo delivery and production to stations the industries are separate |
15:26 | <nielsm> | but they might have some shared data for the newgrf |
15:26 | <andythenorth> | so Firefox used to memory leak |
15:26 | <andythenorth> | and now Chrome CPU leaks |
15:27 | <Wolf01> | Chrome eats... everything |
15:27 | <andythenorth> | https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8740/Steeltown.png |
15:27 | <nielsm> | or, depending on how much you could be made to control layouts, have large factoyr complexes where some parts mainly take inputs and different parts produce different outputs |
15:28 | <nielsm> | e.g. a car factory with separate production lines for person cars and industrial machines |
15:28 | <andythenorth> | see above :P |
15:30 | <nielsm> | in part also just a way to overcome the 3 in/2 out cargo limits without changing structures or any other code :) |
15:33 | <andythenorth> | I considered that for refinery cargos |
15:33 | <andythenorth> | but eh |
15:47 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has joined #openttd |
15:47 | -!- | Thedarkb is "realname" on #oolite #openttd #/r/openttd |
15:50 | -!- | glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
15:50 | -!- | glx is "Loïc GUILLOUX" on #openttd |
15:50 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ |
15:52 | -!- | JustAsking [~oftc-webi@ip-62-230-239-173.toronto.ca.northamericancoax.com] has joined #openttd |
15:52 | -!- | JustAsking is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #openttd |
15:56 | -!- | roidal [~roland@62-46-140-108.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] |
15:57 | <JustAsking> | just noticed OpenTTD on Windows Store for $$$, is this allowed? |
15:58 | <andythenorth> | https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6832 |
15:59 | <nielsm> | ottd is GPL, GPL expressly allows usage for any purpose including offering for sale at any price you want |
16:00 | <nielsm> | as long as you offer any buyers a copy of the source code used to build the exact version received |
16:00 | <andythenorth> | why is hg so hostile to branches? |
16:01 | <andythenorth> | literally anything you do with branches, it tells you off |
16:01 | <nielsm> | (buy it, demand to receive a copy of their modifications which must also be GPL licensed, integrate those modifications into master, put an official, free version on the windows store instead) |
16:02 | <nielsm> | (and if they do not comply with your demand for sources, ask EFF for help in court) |
16:03 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
16:03 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
16:03 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
16:07 | -!- | Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [] |
16:08 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
16:12 | <andythenorth> | started it http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#extreme |
16:14 | <@Alberth> | hg branches bt making a new clone, iirc |
16:14 | <@Alberth> | *by |
16:14 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
16:14 | <@Alberth> | at it used to do that |
16:14 | <@Alberth> | *at least |
16:27 | <andythenorth> | hmm where should steel go :P |
16:27 | <andythenorth> | and alumninium |
16:27 | <andythenorth> | such thinking to do |
16:32 | -!- | gelignite2nd [~gelignite@55d4cb43.access.ecotel.net] has joined #openttd |
16:32 | -!- | gelignite2nd is "gelignite" on #openttd |
16:36 | -!- | JustAsking [~oftc-webi@ip-62-230-239-173.toronto.ca.northamericancoax.com] has quit [Quit: Page closed] |
16:39 | -!- | gelignite [~gelignite@55d4f7de.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
16:48 | -!- | sim-al2 [~sim-al2@c-75-65-196-171.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd |
16:48 | -!- | sim-al2 is "sim-al2" on #openttd @#/r/openttd |
16:53 | <@Alberth> | to the USA |
16:54 | <@Alberth> | bye |
16:54 | -!- | Alberth [~alberth@00015f9e.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [] |
17:10 | -!- | andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc87219-aztw31-2-0-cust178.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] |
17:49 | -!- | gelignite2nd [~gelignite@55d4cb43.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: Match found!] |
18:09 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
18:09 | -!- | nielsm [~nielsm@62-243-118-198-cable.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
18:12 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@00022bb9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
18:16 | <Wolf01> | 'night |
18:16 | -!- | Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] |
18:20 | -!- | Stimrol [~Stimrol@89-160-153-213.du.xdsl.is] has joined #openttd |
18:20 | -!- | Stimrol is "Stimrol" on #openttd |
18:21 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #openttd |
18:21 | -!- | KouDy is "KouDy" on #openttd |
18:23 | -!- | RafiX [~rafix@public-gprs351594.centertel.pl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] |
18:29 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@50.37.120.60] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] |
18:32 | -!- | Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] |
18:39 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
18:47 | -!- | Progman [~progman@p4FD66C85.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
18:52 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
18:52 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
18:52 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
18:55 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
18:55 | -!- | Supercheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
19:03 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #openttd |
19:03 | -!- | KouDy is "KouDy" on #openttd |
19:07 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
19:10 | -!- | iSoSyS [~iSoSyS@2001:8a0:e95a:6300:c08:263a:2a4f:16f6] has joined #openttd |
19:10 | -!- | iSoSyS is "realname" on #/r/openttd #openttd |
19:15 | -!- | HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@dslb-188-106-197-208.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] |
19:17 | -!- | Stimrol [~Stimrol@89-160-153-213.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
19:23 | -!- | Suprcheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
19:23 | -!- | Suprcheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
19:25 | -!- | synchris [~synchris@139.138.202.72] has quit [Quit: yeeha!] |
19:28 | -!- | Thedarkb [~beno@51-171-48-95-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
19:29 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
19:29 | -!- | Suprcheese is now known as Supercheese |
19:45 | -!- | frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] |
19:47 | -!- | KouDy [~koudy@ip4-83-240-28-102.cust.nbox.cz] has joined #openttd |
19:47 | -!- | KouDy is "KouDy" on #openttd |
20:03 | -!- | iSoSyS [~iSoSyS@2001:8a0:e95a:6300:c08:263a:2a4f:16f6] has quit [Quit: Leaving] |
20:36 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
20:36 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
20:36 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
20:42 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
20:48 | -!- | ToBeFree [~tobefree@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
20:48 | -!- | ToBeFree is "Tobias "ToBeFree" Frei" on #https-everywhere #oolite-dev #openttd #tor #debian #linux #oolite #oolite-ger |
20:51 | -!- | ToBeFree [~tobefree@00019d36.user.oftc.net] has quit [] |
21:11 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@69.51.16.249] has joined #openttd |
21:11 | -!- | techmagus is "Yahanan Xie" on #openttd #tor #/r/openttd |
21:15 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] |
21:16 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
21:16 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
21:16 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
21:21 | -!- | sim-al2 [~sim-al2@c-75-65-196-171.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
21:26 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 483 seconds] |
21:39 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
21:39 | -!- | Supercheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
21:56 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
21:56 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
21:57 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
22:03 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:04 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:04 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
22:04 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
22:04 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@00022bb9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:05 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:05 | -!- | orudge [~orudge@000128f1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:08 | -!- | orudge [~orudge@glosoli.owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd |
22:08 | -!- | orudge is "Owen Rudge" on @#thesinner #openttdcoop.devzone #openttdcoop.dev @#z.aud @#z.radio @#locomotion @#transportempire #openttdcoop #openttd #tycoon |
22:10 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:10 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
22:10 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
22:11 | -!- | muffindrake2 [~muffindra@p200300864E193E0050FBF7585C4FE378.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd |
22:11 | -!- | muffindrake2 is "muffindrake" on #openttd |
22:11 | -!- | muffindrake2 [~muffindra@p200300864E193E0050FBF7585C4FE378.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] |
22:13 | -!- | snail_UES_ [~snail_UES@cpe-98-14-137-148.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
22:13 | -!- | snail_UES_ is "Jacopo Coletto" on #openttd |
22:14 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:18 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:21 | -!- | Flygon [~Flygon@124-148-170-189.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd |
22:21 | -!- | Flygon is "Flygon" on #openttd |
22:21 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:21 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
22:21 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
22:23 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:23 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
22:23 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
22:29 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:42 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:42 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
22:42 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
22:43 | -!- | smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd |
22:43 | -!- | smoke_fumus is "KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://kvirc.net/" on #qemu #oolite #openttd |
22:45 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
22:53 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
22:53 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ |
22:53 | -!- | tokai|noir is "Christian Rosentreter" on +#openttd |
23:00 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
23:04 | -!- | tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
23:11 | -!- | tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
23:11 | -!- | tokai is "Christian Rosentreter" on #openttd |
23:11 | -!- | mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ |
23:17 | -!- | techmagus [~Laibeus_L@00022bb9.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd |
23:17 | -!- | techmagus is "Yahanan Xie" on #openttd #tor #/r/openttd |
23:27 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] |
23:55 | -!- | Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-98-146-230-183.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd |
23:55 | -!- | Supercheese is "Supercheese" on #openttd |
--- | Log | closed Sat Jul 14 00:00:34 2018 |