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---Logopened Tue Jul 31 00:00:57 2018
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10:38<@DorpsGek>planetmaker: planetmaker
10:38<@planetmaker>hi :)
10:40<@Alberth>luckily you are still you :)
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10:42<Thedarkb-T60>Is there a way of logging the chat on my dedicated server?
10:42<Eddi|zuHause>redirect it to a file?
10:43<Thedarkb-T60>I'd rather be able to use the console.
10:43<Eddi|zuHause>use admin port?
10:43<Thedarkb-T60>I suppose
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10:47<Eddi|zuHause>i don't know if it's the heat or my recent switching of graphics drivers, but i started getting some graphical glitches lately :/
10:49<Thedarkb-T60>There were some allegedly quite abusive players on my server last night, how can I get their IP to ban them.
10:50<Eddi|zuHause>look at the logs?
11:01<Thedarkb-T60>Eddi|zuHause, Where can I find those?
11:03<Eddi|zuHause>same place as the chat logs?
11:04<Thedarkb-T60>Where are the chat logs, Eddi|zuHause ?
11:04<Eddi|zuHause>in your console?
11:04<Thedarkb-T60>Oh, I thought you meant there was a log file.
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11:12<nielsm>there isn't any log-to-file feature?
11:13<Thedarkb-T60>I hope there is.
11:13<Thedarkb-T60>Grepping tmux scrollback is a PITA
11:13<@planetmaker>not in-built. That's what you have the admin port
11:14<@planetmaker>Connect to it, and log all events which possibly interest you
11:15<Eddi|zuHause>i already suggested "tee"
11:15<@planetmaker>yeah, I saw. And it works great, too
11:15<@planetmaker>We did use that at coop prior to the invention of the admin port
11:16<nielsm>seems silly to me that you'd need a separate application to save console logs to a file, when it's a standard feature of practically any other server application
11:17<Eddi|zuHause>i guess that is historically grown, as openttd isn't natively a server application, but the server was somewhat tucked onto the existing client application
11:18<LordAro>adding a very basic "also dump all console output to file" wouldn't be the most difficult thing in the world...
11:19<nielsm>(also have the files rotate on either date or size, I'd suggest having a filename like openttd-listenaddr_port-yyyymmdd.log)
11:20<Eddi|zuHause>but that would duplicate the behaviour of existing programs
11:20<Eddi|zuHause>(tee and logrotate)
11:20<LordAro>how well does tee work with stdin?
11:21<LordAro>not well, i suspect
11:21<@planetmaker>very well
11:21<@planetmaker>as said, worked for a decade for coop
11:21<Eddi|zuHause>tee only works on stdout, it lets stdin alone
11:21<@planetmaker>err, yeah :)
11:22<LordAro>oh, ofc
11:22<LordAro>logrotate is a bit tricky if you have file handles held open
11:22<LordAro>the source programs have a tendency to not notice that files have been renamed/deleted
11:22<Eddi|zuHause>need to implement SIGHOP?
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11:23<Eddi|zuHause>that, or the program needs to open/close the file on every write attempt
11:23<Sacro>LordAro: logrotate can hadnle that
11:23<Sacro>Copy file to new, truncate old
11:24<@Alberth>aka logrotate?
11:25<Thedarkb-T60>I'll use tee in future
11:25<Thedarkb-T60>My vanilla server won't reset for some reason.
11:25<Thedarkb-T60>How do I do that?
11:25<Thedarkb-T60>I mean, automate it.
11:25<Sacro>| tee ...
11:33<Thedarkb-T60>Sacro, automate resetting the map after 2050?
11:34<Eddi|zuHause>that should be a setting
11:40<Sacro>I dunno, I still use autopilot
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12:49<Eddi|zuHause>i have no clue what i've done, but steam somehow lost its taskbar entry, and i can't get it back :/
12:50<Taede>rightclickt he start menu entry, select pin to taskbar?
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12:56<Thedarkb-T60>When will the mode +r requirement be lifted?
12:56<Thedarkb-T60>When the spam stops?
12:56<Eddi|zuHause>we tried that
12:56<Eddi|zuHause>then the spam came back
12:58<Thedarkb-T60>It's on Freenode, OFTC, QuakeNet and Rizon
12:58<Thedarkb-T60>I think this spam has the potential to kill IRC.
13:01<LordAro>as if
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13:08<Eddi|zuHause>irc is already on a looong decline...
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13:59<nielsm>does anyone know, did the greek guy give up on his daylength patch, or just decide one of the pre-existing solutions were good enough?
13:59<nielsm>out of curiosity :)
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14:11<Wolf01>I hope he didn't get involved in the fires
14:19<nielsm>hmm his forums profile says he hasn't posted for 7 days
14:19<nielsm>otoh tt-forums isn't that massively active
14:19<nielsm>(any longer?)
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15:08<andythenorth>tt-forums is over
15:08<andythenorth>just waiting for new bananas
15:08<andythenorth>then it can die
15:13<@planetmaker>it's good to have forums
15:13<@planetmaker>doesn't mean it has to be the place where real work is done :)
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18:10<nielsm>haha, spent waaay too long on this, but got it working!
18:10<nielsm>ms hyper-v doesn't seem to have any sound driver support, so testing sound stuff from linux with it is hard
18:11<nielsm>so now I've managed to set up a loopback alsa device, and recording from that with darkice, streaming to a local icecast server, and then playing that stream on my host
18:11<nielsm>of course there's several seconds delay, but IT WORKS!
18:28<LordAro>good lord
18:28<LordAro>nielsm: bad, stop that
18:29<nielsm>but I can't get the linux build to include libtimidity.cpp in the build ?!
18:32<nielsm>it's adding -DLIBTIMIDITY to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, and -ltimidity to LIB
18:32<nielsm>but not music/libtimidity.o to OBJS_CXX
18:32<nielsm>sources.list does look right tho
18:42<nielsm> :(
18:44<nielsm>I probably broke something with music file paths
18:45<nielsm>during all the other music code reworking
18:45<nielsm>so two issues to fix here: 1) build system partially ignoring libtimidity, 2) music file paths are passed wrong
18:46<nielsm>and it's long past bedtime, gn
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23:43<snail_UES_>anybody here? :P
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