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#openttd IRC Logs for 2018-09-21

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07:12<Samu>hi
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07:15<Samu>https://imgur.com/a3CazBu
07:15<Samu>how to solve this problem
07:20<m3henry>You can lower the ground either side and create a tunnel between them
07:26<Samu>https://imgur.com/UBTC8Bq this is what the pathfinder should do
07:27<Samu>that other image is what the pathfinder did
07:28<Samu>those obstacles are there on purpose, to force test the pathfinder
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09:05<Eddi|zuHause>can anyone explain to me wtf i built here? https://ibin.co/4GT3yIqIYL7g.png
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09:24<Samu>I found a bug in openttd
09:25<nielsm>OH NO
09:25<nielsm>STOP THE PRESSES
09:25<Samu>maybe I didn't, but it's still weird
09:27<Samu>okay, it's not bugged, it's just an illusion
09:28<Samu>https://imgur.com/JKQ97B8
09:28<Samu>ai can't connect the road to the tile ahead
09:29<Samu>the slopes of those 2 tiles are SLOPE_E and SLOPE_S
09:30<Samu>the illusion is that it looks like there would be nothing preventing it to be connected
09:30<nielsm>yeah and raising a single corner would allow them to connect
09:31<Samu>https://imgur.com/XSk6BTg
09:32<Samu>looks like that without the roads
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11:13<Samu>watching pathfinder at work
11:13<Samu>https://imgur.com/eLTxaXP
11:14<Samu>rivers and rails are real obstacles, slows him down quite a bit
11:15<Samu>i also notice the AI is very relunctant in building bridges
11:15<Samu>if i cheapen the cost of bridges, the AI will probably be faster, but then the end result might be too many weird bridges
11:17<Samu>i mean pathfinder, not AI
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11:51<Samu>road vehicles in the way can influence pathfinder decisions
11:51<Samu>that's lame
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11:57<Samu>at any given moment, the road could be with or without a vehicle in the way
11:58<Samu>pathfinder neightbour chosing is influenced by this, that's not right
11:59<Samu>how to solve?
12:00<Samu>it should not care whether there's a vehicle in the way
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12:31<andythenorth>moin
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13:13<Wolf01>o/
13:18<Samu>is -1 also true?
13:18<Samu>if (-1) { blabla }
13:18<@peter1138>Generally not-zero is true.
13:18<Samu>oh, i see, then pathfinder.road.4 is bugged
13:18<Samu>probably 3 too
13:19<Wolf01>I wonder if PI is true
13:19<Samu>AIRoad.CanBuildConnectedRoadPartsHere(cur_node, path.GetParent().GetTile(), next_tile)
13:19<Samu>should be
13:19<Samu>AIRoad.CanBuildConnectedRoadPartsHere(cur_node, path.GetParent().GetTile(), next_tile) > 0
13:20<Samu>because -1 is meant to be precondition failed
13:20<Samu>so it should return false
13:20<@peter1138>So the method is named as if it is a boolean, but it's not a boolean?
13:21<andythenorth>oo it's a peter1138
13:21<@peter1138>s/it is/returns/
13:21<Wolf01>https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/avOY3Mq_460s.jpg math parser math parser math parser
13:21<Wolf01>I would like to make one in c#, but no will to do it
13:26<andythenorth>Wolf01: math parses don't get the NRT broken fixed :D
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13:52<andythenorth>I painted a train
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14:11<andythenorth>sprites 75% complete
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14:26<Samu>the pathfinder doesn't extract the correct direction of a station tile
14:26<Samu>bah
14:26<Samu>it thinks it can connect them from all directions
14:27<Samu>or im doing something wrong
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14:28<Samu>probably still related to bridges, let me confirm
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14:49<Samu>stupid pathfinder, really is trash in regards to bridges
14:49<Samu>:|
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15:01<Samu>there's more issues with the pathfinder than I anticipated
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15:06<Samu>https://imgur.com/EQGbKqU
15:06<Samu>pathfinder doesn't consider that as road
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15:59<Samu>oh oh
15:59<Samu>remember what I said about -1 being precondition failed?
16:00<Samu>apparently -1 returning true isn't that bad
16:00<Samu>in essence, it's not wrong either
16:00<Samu>working as intended
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16:05<Samu>peter1138:
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16:50<Samu>yay! I solved this problem! https://imgur.com/a3CazBu
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16:57<Samu>https://imgur.com/47H83LQ - pathfinder did the right thing!~
16:57<Samu>on its own, in 1 go
16:57<Samu>success!
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