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06:06<Eddi|zuHause>damn irc noobs, can't even wait 6 hours for a reply! :p
06:09<@peter1138>:D
06:10<muetD>^^
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07:45<Samu>i think the limit is 64k towns
07:46<Samu>because of uint16 or something like that
07:46<Samu>he wants 80k towns
07:55<Samu>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6924#issuecomment-426004725
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07:58<Samu>uint16 custom_town_number; yep
08:01<Samu>typedef Pool<Town, TownID, 64, 64000> TownPool; extern TownPool _town_pool;
08:01<Samu>64000
08:03<@peter1138>Increase the number of towns 10 fold and then wonder why OpenTTD is so slow for such an old game...
08:04<Samu>hey, i suggested 20000, he wants 80000
08:04<Samu>pool limits to 64000, i believe
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08:44<Eddi|zuHause>the bio-computerscientists always mocked the (regular) computerscientists by saying stuff like "i don't know why computer scientists are so happy about exponential computer power growth... we just simulate one atom more, and it brings it back to its knees"
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09:37<Samu>i'm a bit lost about this https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6410, what exactly was fixed?
09:37<Samu>in r27586. Thanks for the patch! where do I ... check r27586 nowadays?
09:44<Samu>ah, found it https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/d90686f0217c2ad8dfc814694b7b9ea578dd7a49
09:44<Samu>sucks to navigate backwards :( there should be a search here
09:47<Samu>6410
09:48<Samu>dang, how do I edit title name?
09:48<Samu>Add: [YAPF] Use a max penalty for finding the nearest road vehicle depot
09:48<Samu>someone put a #6410 here plz
09:52<LordAro>in the PR title, there's an edit button the right
09:53<LordAro>in the commit, that's up to you
09:53<Samu>oh, oh omg i totally missed it :p
09:55<Samu>thx
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10:07<@Alberth>moin
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10:15<Samu>hi
10:20<Samu>peter1138: copy the SetMaxCost() strategy * applied in YAPF for rail. I did that
10:21<Samu>copied the strategy used by rails
10:21<Samu>also because I did it for ships
10:21<Samu>road vehicles were going to be the only one without it
10:23<Samu>i can't remember exactly, but I think the automatic servicing applies this max_penatly
10:23<Samu>max_penalty
10:23<@peter1138>?
10:24<@Alberth>doesn't look like a question to me :)
10:24<@peter1138>Don't write random gibberish here, put it in the PR.
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10:44<Samu>don't remember what changes exactly. I think it could prevent road vehicles going back and forth when needing to service at the nearest road depot and getting out of range
10:44<Samu>at least it solved this problem for ship depots, i would assume the same would happen for road depots
10:44<Samu>would have to recheck
10:48<LordAro>Samu: put it in the pr
10:49<LordAro>things here will be forgotten
10:49<LordAro>or ignored
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10:57<Samu>hold on a sec, i'm rechecking, will reply there with more certainty
11:01<LordAro>gj
11:13<Samu>oh, apparently it changes nothing, but makes the pathfinder quit earlier
11:13<Samu>if it goes past the max_penalty
11:13<Samu>gonna post
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11:48<Samu>damn inconsistencies
11:48<Samu>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/master/src/pathfinder/yapf/yapf.h#L70
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12:00<Samu>if someone has done before what I did, why wasn't it implemented?
12:00<Samu>josep guy has done it
12:01<LordAro>because he's not a dev
12:01<LordAro>and it's not been PR'd
12:01<LordAro>why do you think?
12:02<Samu>oh :(
12:03<Samu>who's dev then?
12:03<Samu>i thought you were
12:09<Samu>I have more aircraft hangar issues patches here, but have to be extra careful now
12:10<Samu>they are part of a feature suggestion, and were implemented with that in mind :(
12:11<LordAro>i can review stuff, but i can't commit/merge anything
12:11<Samu>have to dissect my own code :|
12:13<nielsm>never write the most clever code you can come up with, because you won't be able to understand it yourself when returning to it later!
12:16<Samu>as an extra problem, i already have the feature split into smaller patches, but they're hg
12:16<Samu>have to convert from hg to svn, to apply patch, then move it into github
12:17<nielsm>or you could just skip the svn step
12:17<Samu>i dont have a git patcher
12:18<LordAro>it's a common format
12:18<LordAro>there's nothing (very) different about svn/hg/patches
12:19<nielsm>the patch format is called "unified diff" and has been standard for 20+ years
12:19<nielsm>used everywhere in software development
12:20<LordAro>there's the -p0/-p1 difference, but that's easily worked around
12:23<Samu>regular expression should help
12:23<LordAro>does that follow from anything?
12:23<Samu>replace a\ and b\ with nothing
12:23<LordAro>i guess that's one solution
12:23<nielsm>that's what the -p1 option does that LordAro just mentioned
12:23<LordAro>not a good solution
12:23<LordAro>but a solution
12:24<Samu>i dont have command line solutions :|
12:24<LordAro>besides, you want to eliminate the svn step, not ensure it
12:24<Samu>except git bash and git cmd
12:25<LordAro>that is all you need
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12:25<Samu>I was forced to having it because of commit messages :|
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12:25<Samu>but it helps, I admit
12:25<LordAro>but any patching gui worth their salt will have equivalent options for pnum
12:25<LordAro>...because of commit messages?
12:26<Samu>I mean failled commit messages
12:27<LordAro>still not understanding you
12:27<LordAro>oh, you mean "forced into having git bash"
12:28<LordAro>(incidentally, it looks like sublime merge can do rebasing/amending quite nicely)
12:30<Samu>sublime merge
12:30<Samu>will take a look at it later
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12:34<Samu>Evaluate for free – no account, tracking, or time limits.
12:34<Samu>hmm i have a feeling this sublime merge is a trial
12:35<Samu>Sublime Merge may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use. There is currently no enforced time limit for the evaluation.
12:35<Samu>no thx
12:41<LordAro>Samu: "no enforced time limit"
12:41<LordAro>it's fine
12:42<LordAro>it's basically like winrar
12:42<LordAro>it complains at you, but it doesn't actually care
12:42<LordAro>alternatively, actually try it
12:42<LordAro>you might like it enough to buy it anyway ;)
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12:49<LordAro>regardless, don't complain about the bad tooling when you refuse to use the good tooling
12:50<nielsm>agree. becoming effective at any task requires investing time into learning the tools properly
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12:59<andythenorth>yo
12:59<nielsm>oy
13:06<Samu>is there a search here? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commits/master I wanna navigate to r24855
13:07<Samu>don't want to click Older Older Older till i reach it
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13:08<SpComb>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/search?q=r24855&type=Commits
13:08<Samu>thx
13:09<SpComb>it's pretty well hidden in the top nav bar
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13:16<Samu>my mind isn't as it used to be :(
13:17<Samu>I made this fix for a reason, but can't remember what it was for :(
13:23<Samu>08_FindNearestHangar__try_to_determine_the_correct_last_and_next_destinations_and_then_ensure_these_are_within_range
13:24<LordAro>something to do with aircraft ranges, i presume
13:24<Samu>i made this to replace that code here https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/799a74509918f06ef69f8d900d33b0392c1d1aa3
13:25<Samu>something to do with it not getting the correct last and next destinations somehow?
13:26<Samu>brb checking my temp savegames, I know I have something that is supposed to expose this issue
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13:32<Wolf01>o/
13:42<andythenorth>lo Wolf01
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13:59<Samu>aha, I remember
13:59<Samu>it's about the order of type v->current_order.IsType(OT_GOTO_DEPOT) && v->current_order.GetDepotActionType() != ODATFB_NEAREST_DEPOT
14:00<Samu>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/5405 pikka savegame is ideal to expose it too
14:01<Samu>1 go to A
14:01<Samu>2 service at nearest hangar
14:01<Samu>3 go to b
14:01<Samu>4 service at nearest hangar
14:01<Samu>the issue happens when executing order 4
14:02<Samu>it goes to a hangar that would cause the distance to A to become out of range
14:05<Samu>yeah, my fix makes the "service at nearest hangar" not do exactly as it says
14:06<Samu>it will "service at the nearest hangar that is still within range of the next destination"
14:06<Samu>to avoid the "out of range"
14:07<Samu>ok, gonna submit
14:19<Samu>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6925/commits/aaae082db83cd85e7340337b9aed7ea4a6e92fd5
14:20<andythenorth>has anyone coded pantographs yet?
14:20<andythenorth>for horse?
14:20<andythenorth>or will I have to do it? :P
14:21<SpComb>electric horses?
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14:28<andythenorth>such
14:28<andythenorth>graphics generation
14:28<andythenorth>draw 1 pantograph, not 10
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14:50<NGC3982>oh my!
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14:58<LordAro>osht
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15:05<andythenorth>ohmy
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15:54<Samu>i have a solution for this https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6493 but it envolves a bit of rules changing
15:56<Samu>implies a different aircraft handling behaviour
15:58<Samu>uhm, so how do I explain this
15:59<Samu>well, nvm I'll post it the best manner I can
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16:37<Samu>bah failed hunk
16:48<Samu>is CodeChange a thing?
16:48<Samu>whe do you use CodeChange?
16:49<Samu>oh, Codechange
16:52<andythenorth>when it changes code
16:54<Samu>i'm splitting a function in 2
16:54<Samu>what is the techincal term for this?
16:54<LordAro>sounds like a codechange
16:54<Wolf01>Refactoring
16:55<Samu>refactor
16:55<Samu>ok, ty
16:55<andythenorth>such bed
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16:55<Wolf01>/me too
16:56<Samu>Codechange #6493: Refactoring NeedsServicing into NeedsServicing + HasPendingReplace
16:56<Samu>good name?
16:56<Wolf01>'night
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16:57<LordAro>Samu: codechange doesn't often have an issue in it
16:57<LordAro>because codechanges don't fix issues
16:57<Samu>i see, but ultimately it will be used to fix a problem
16:58<Samu>I want to call HasPendingReplace directly, and skip the first half of NeedsServicing
16:58<LordAro>will be, sure, but is not the actual fix
16:58<Samu>so, it's a fix?
16:59<Samu>oh, it's a codechange without referring which issue it will be used for?
17:00<Samu>i'm unsure how to do this, any tips?
17:01<Samu>sec, let me link
17:02<Samu>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/blob/master/src/vehicle.cpp#L185 this function here
17:04<Samu>the lines from 206 to 245 are moved into HasPendingReplace
17:04<Samu>NeedsServicing will be calling HasPendingReplace afterwards, it won't change its functionality
17:05<Samu>but I am going to call HasPendingReplace directly, skipping the first half of NeedsServicing from within aircraft_cmd.cpp file
17:05<Samu>because I need to do that for helicopters that service at helipads
17:06<LordAro>codechange without referring what issue it's for
17:07<LordAro>"refactoring" as a single commit is fine, as long as it's followed up with a reason for the refactoring
17:12<Samu>commit message: In order to verify if a helicopter with service at helipad has a pending replace, I need to create a HasPendingReplace function that can be called from some aircraft_cmd.cpp functions
17:13<Samu>commit title: Codechange: Refactoring NeedsServicing into NeedsServicing + HasPendingReplace
17:13<Samu>good?
17:15<Samu>my english
17:20<Samu>In order to verify if a helicopter with service at helipad has a pending replace, I need to call HasPendingReplace directly, as a seperate function that can be used by some aircraft_cmd.cpp functions
17:22<Samu>, it's needed to call
17:22<Samu>In order to verify if a helicopter with service at helipad has a pending replace, it's needed to call HasPendingReplace directly, as a seperate function that can be used by some aircraft_cmd.cpp functions
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17:25<Samu>whatever, pushed
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17:50<Samu>The supplied credentials are invalid to login
17:50<Samu>what is this?
17:51<Samu>Jenkins failed in OS / osx-10.9
17:51<Samu>was it my fault?
17:51<Samu>https://farm.openttd.org/jenkins/blue/organizations/jenkins/OpenTTD%2FOpenTTD/detail/PR-6925/8/pipeline/99
17:51<Samu>ahalp
17:56<LordAro>doesn't look like anything you did
17:58<Samu>eww https://farm.openttd.org/jenkins/blue/organizations/jenkins/OpenTTD%2FOpenTTD/detail/PR-6925/9/pipeline#step-87-log-182
17:58<Samu>visual studio doesn't complain
17:58<Samu>how could I guess
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18:03<Samu>anyway, the good news, I don't have anything else to commit here https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6925
18:03<Samu>ready for review
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