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---Logopened Sun Oct 21 00:00:34 2018
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04:48<NGC3982>hi guys
04:56<nielsm>hello
04:57<nielsm>it seems people are doing other things this weekend, but if you have a question I'm sure you'll get an answer if you just ask :)
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05:01<andythenorth>o/
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05:35<andythenorth>so
05:35<andythenorth>can we numerically sort vehicle groups in the vehicles window?
05:35<andythenorth>rather than lexically
05:36<andythenorth>https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9157/sort.png
05:47<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] blackerking opened issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK41
05:50<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK4H
05:50<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth closed issue #6942: adding individual graphs for each vehicle https://git.io/fxK41
06:07<LordAro>DENIED
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06:18<andythenorth>was I too harsh
06:18<andythenorth>?
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06:48<frosch123>andythenorth: i think we already sort them numerically
06:48<frosch123>do you compile with icu-sort?
06:49<andythenorth>not intentionally
06:49<andythenorth>I compile with whatever hacked ./configure is working today :P
06:49<frosch123>it works for me
06:49<andythenorth>ok so it's compile issue
06:54<frosch123>you can try https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pd33certm?/pd33certm
06:57*andythenorth testing
07:02<andythenorth>same sort result as in previous screenshot :)
07:02<frosch123>so, there is a reason ICU is used :)
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07:59<andythenorth>"checking icu-lx... not found"
07:59<andythenorth>"checking icu-i18n... not found"
08:02<LordAro>andythenorth: last time i checked the only changes to configure you should need are in #6917
08:03<LordAro>unless it broke again with the new osx, i can't remember
08:04<andythenorth>let's see
08:04<andythenorth>the issue was https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6880
08:04<andythenorth>ok so macosx-clang-iconv-fix branch doesn't compile
08:05<andythenorth>https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6880#issuecomment-424509709
08:11<LordAro>ah yeah, it thinks you're on clang1.0 again
08:12*LordAro shakes fist at apple
08:12<LordAro>(continues to)
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08:21<andythenorth>:P
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08:28<Wolf01>o/
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11:01<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hemaolle commented on pull request #6906: Fix #6742: Only possible to build station next to competitor by using CTRL+click https://git.io/fxKw8
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11:03<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] Hemaolle commented on pull request #6906: Fix #6742: Only possible to build station next to competitor by using CTRL+click https://git.io/fxKwE
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11:34<LordAro>ono, person is asking for my review
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12:06<DorpsGek_II>[OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on pull request #6917: Fix iconv and clang version detection on OSX https://git.io/fxKKk
12:09<nielsm>how come configure even wants to know the compiler version?
12:10<nielsm>wouldn't it be better to change it so it doesn't have to care?
12:11<LordAro>there are various warning flags that are applied
12:11<LordAro>notably, -std=c++11
12:11<LordAro>which currently is sort of required
12:11<LordAro>by accident
12:13<nielsm>I'd think those should be tested for by feature tests
12:13<LordAro>yeah, that's what'll happen when/if cmake does
12:13<Eddi|zuHause>if you want configure to take half an hour
12:18<nielsm>not possible to do a wholesale test for all flags at once, and if that fails either fail completely, or do the slow individual flags test?
12:18<LordAro>i wouldn't expect them to be very slow
12:19<LordAro>they're usually 1 or 2 line programs
12:19<nielsm>yes it's bounded by the startup time of the compiler
12:20<nielsm>dominated, not bounded
12:24<Eddi|zuHause>well, if you can accrete all tests into one modular program you could bisect the modules to find out which ones fail?
12:24<LordAro>now that would be slow :p
12:24<Eddi|zuHause>depends on how often you expect a failure
12:25<LordAro>true
12:27<Eddi|zuHause>i still think the version number is an easy test, and the other method should only be used for "weird" compilers
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14:11<andythenorth>mmm sprites
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15:01<Wolf01>Mmmh, I wonder if I'm ill
15:02<Eddi|zuHause>ask a doctor?
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15:06<Wolf01>Is there any doctor here?
15:06<andythenorth>my wife?
15:07<Wolf01>Good, I may have a bad case of "seasonal change"
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15:08<andythenorth>vitamin D
15:09<andythenorth>loads of it
15:09*andythenorth is not a doctor :P
15:10<Wolf01>Heh, I'll need the entire alphabet
15:11<Wolf01>For sure some Mg... time for a ginger ale
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