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---Logopened Fri Nov 02 00:00:05 2007
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00:00<chealer>user01: if the filesystem if iso9660, maybe
00:01<user01>chealer: isnt that the a dvd filesystem?
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00:01<chealer>user01: it's one of them
00:02<user01>chealer: how do i tell which one this is?
00:02<chealer>user01: ideally, you don't, and let mount guess it
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00:10<user01>chealer; when i leave off the iso9660 it prints out a mount usage screen
00:10<user01>chealer: how to make it guess?
00:11<chealer>user01: hum, which command exactly?
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00:12<user01>chealer: mount /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd says no medium found
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00:13<chealer>user01: and which command prints out a mount usage screen?
00:13<user01>chealer: mount -t without the type spec
00:14<dondelelcaro>user01: if you get no medium found, that means that the drive doesn't have media in it (or the drive can't find the media)
00:14<chealer>user01: that's normal. if you don't precise the type, you don't use the option.
00:14<dondelelcaro>user01: if you specify -t, you have to specify the filesystem type.
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00:16<user01>dondelelcaro: well it wouldnt be /dev/cdrom would it?
00:16<user01>dont know why it cant find it
00:16<user01>it stopped automounting flash disks as well
00:17<user01>and i can only mount flash disks now as root
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01:12<Lethias>is there a way i can run a command at the console and it give me the available resolutions i can use for my grub vga=?
01:13<chuy_max>o_O what?
01:14<chuy_max>Lethias, checking /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?, I just entered, sorry if that's not what you are looking for
01:14<Lethias>na, not for X windows. Its for grub when you boot to change my resolution to 1024x768.
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01:14<chuy_max>hi guys, quick question: is it possible to redirect audio output to another jack?
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01:15<Lethias>i did it once with my laptop but i typed some command and then used it to give me a listing of what numbers that i could use for it.
01:15<chuy_max>I want to use my headphones in the blue jack, and speakers in the green jack, when I'm not using headphones, I just want to redirect audio to speakers, and viceversa
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01:18<chuy_max>Lethias, what makes you think grub controls resolutions?
01:19<Lethias>no grub doesn't. In grub, you have the option to change your screen res using framebuffer. for example vga=791.
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01:20<Lethias>791 isn't right for my graphics card, i'm trying to find out what my cards fbuffer numbers would be. There was a way you could find out with a quick hardware test that would tell you the ones you could use for you cardd.
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01:22<vin`>Lethias: hwinfo --framebuffer
01:22<Lethias>maybe that was it, i cna't remember. lol thats why i was asking
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01:23<Lethias>yup thats it, thanks, vin`
01:23<Lethias>i was sitting here drawing a blank trying to figure that out.
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01:53<fload>anyone know why im getting this error while trying to run kismet.. FATAL: Support for capture source type 'wrt54g' was not built. Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in.
01:55<fload>ive edited kismet.conf installed proper drivers (patched) rt73.. ive tried both wrt54g and rt73 to no avail
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02:38<ra9ftm>Hello. Can anyone help me with setting up PDC: LDAP+SAMBA? The problem is when setting up libnss-ldap
02:39<ra9ftm>smbldap-populate - worked ok
02:39<ra9ftm>I see new OU's in phpldapadmin.
02:40<ra9ftm>But "getent group" - doesn't show LDAP's groups. What may be wrong?
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02:51<the-dude_>ra9ftm: which how to did you follow?
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03:13<bernie>bei meinem notebook (medion md96360) funktionieren unter debian etch 2.6.18-5-amd64 die Helligkeitstasten nicht (Fn+F4, Fn+F5). weiss jemand, wie ich die aktivieren kann?
03:14<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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03:55<kiff>good morning :)
03:58<kiff>no one talk today?
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04:01<icy>hello everybody
04:02<icy>could someone tell me how to configure ethernet through terminal (netinstall) (gateway,ip,dns) and how to turn off the dhcp
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04:08<yang>icy: edit /etc/network/interfaces
04:09<yang>icy: i can paste you a working example
04:09<yang>icy: join #flood
04:09<icy>is there a other editor than vi
04:09<yang>maybe nano
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04:09<kiff>icy, i suggest to you 'mc'
04:10<icy>nano is in
04:10<icy>mc isnt
04:10<kiff>vim forever :)
04:10<icy>JOIN #flood
04:10<icy>473: #flood Cannot join channel (+i)
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04:12<icy>isnt there some sort of text based config thing in debina netinstall?
04:13<yang>for the network no
04:13<yang>only in the installation procedure
04:14<icy>kinda complicated if you dont know for sure
04:15<gsimmons_>!tell icy -about grounding
04:15<gsimmons_>icy: You'd specifically be interested in the Debian Quick Reference, section 10.6.
04:16<icy>thank you, gonna have a look
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04:18<chuy_max>hi, does anyone know if it is possible to redirect audio output to blue jack instead of green jack?
04:19<george>!info jack
04:19<dpkg>jack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1+cvs20050801-19 (sid), Packaged size: 143 kB, Installed size: 576 kB
04:19<george>!info jack-audio-connection-kit
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04:20<george>!info jackd
04:20<dpkg>jackd: (JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients)), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.103.0-6 (sid), Packaged size: 92 kB, Installed size: 320 kB
04:21<george>one way to do routing of audio
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04:25<george>but it's way wayyy more than routing to a specific hole in your sound card
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04:36<icy>it worked, thank god it worked :P
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04:42<george>icy: hmmm but what if it didn't... you could always find out why...
04:42<icy>takes time
04:43<george>taking yours is appropriate; yours is where the interest begins... but I'm glad it worked out
04:44<icy>the mirrors werent setup at the setup, is there a way to launch the setup tool again?
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04:49<icy>could somebody post a /etc/apt/sources.list example
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04:53<crol>ciao, c'è qualcuno?
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06:48<cristian__>siiiiiiiiii hola ...
06:48<chuy_max>is there a way to set serial port speed at startup?, when I login, I have to change it with stty -F device speed, but everytime I restart my PC, I have to do it again. I have thought of adding stty command directly to rc.local, but I dunno if it is the best option I have
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06:51<terrible>eso siii
06:51<nomadium>flyertanks, terrible: only english here
06:51<terrible>como estas
06:51<flyertanks>tem alguem que pode me ajudar
06:52<terrible>yo estoy en las mismas
06:52<flyertanks>tem algum canal de discissâo do debian em portugues
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06:52<nomadium>flyertanks: #debian-br
06:52<terrible>no conosco, yo nusco algo en spañol o griego. pliss.
06:52<flyertanks>tank you
06:53<terrible>bien descansando y tu
06:53<nomadium>terrible: #debian-es
06:53<flyertanks>no ablo espanõl
06:53<terrible>oka gracias
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06:54<terrible>yo estoy iniciamdo desde linux me aburrio el wind,
06:54<flyertanks>naum tem ninguem no debian br
06:54<flyertanks>preciso de ajuda qui
06:56<flyertanks>estou tentando rodar um dvd no debian 4.0
06:56<flyertanks>mas naum estou conseguindo
06:56<flyertanks>instalei ele essa noite
06:57<terrible>ocupa el vlc es lo mejor
06:57<terrible>y facil de usar ,,
06:57<flyertanks>qual seria?
06:58<terrible>se llama video lan
06:58<terrible>visita la pagina
06:58<flyertanks>onde eu encontro , por favor?
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06:59<terrible>yo tengo ese y elimine todos los otros y descarga directa y gratis. jajaja
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07:00<flyertanks>muchas gracias
07:00<terrible>okey chaoo
07:01<flyertanks>ate mas
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07:16<Guest187>i cant seem to get the refresh rate right on this knoppix live cd
07:16<Guest187>i used dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it doesnt seem to want to fix
07:17<Guest187>crtl alt backspace to restart x, but it just keeps the same config
07:17<dpkg>Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. unofficial:
07:17<Bousteur>sympathic ^^
07:18<padski>sounds cruel, but the best advice is specific.
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07:19<Guest187>ill be off then
07:19<Guest187>good day
07:19<padski>not sure whether there actually is anyone over at #knoppix, mind you
07:20<Guest187>im leary of that possibility as well
07:20<padski>come back and tell us :-)
07:20<padski>isn't there a little reolution thing in the system tray ?
07:21<Bousteur>not in knoppix
07:21<Guest187>there are people there
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07:21<Guest187>and, yes theres a resize in the tray as well
07:21<padski>Guest187: good, I'm glad
07:21<Bousteur><Guest187> and, yes theres a resize in the tray as well
07:21<Guest187>but it doesnt have my refresh rate on it
07:21<Bousteur>i've never seen it O_o
07:21<padski>Guest187: does knoppix bring you here by default ?
07:21<Guest187>it was just the first listed
07:22<padski>judging from the number that turn up here, I have to call that a yes.
07:23<padski>when you are over at #knoppix, you might ask them to change that
07:23<Guest187>knoppix is very nice
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07:23<Bousteur>Guest187 try to install it n' apt-get upgrade ^^
07:23<padski>yes, It is very impressive
07:23<Guest187>this is one of my first times running it
07:23<padski>as a bootable CD
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07:24<Guest187>well, im really only delving, so it isnt that terribly important
07:24<Guest187>have a g'night, im off
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07:25<panagos>xen 3.0 is in fact a kernel? ie, i need to boot my system with that in order to work?
07:26<nowhereman>panagos: IIUC, you boot what is called an hypervisor
07:26<padski>panagos: I believe the authors style it a 'paravirtual hypervisor' or somesuch ;-)
07:27<nowhereman>some sort of very minimal kernel, that manages the hardware, and then boots the host Xen system (a Linux)
07:27<panagos>i'm thinking of xen 3 with amd-v, which is not exactly a paravirtualization...
07:27<padski>what would once have been called a microkernel
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07:28<nowhereman>padski: not really
07:28<padski>nowhereman: I beg to differ, but you are entitled to your opinion :-)
07:28<panagos>so to use xen3, i boot a special kernel image (xen) which then loads my linux?
07:28<panagos>and runs it as domain0
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07:31<nowhereman>padski: I see what you mean
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07:32<padski>nowhereman: nice to know it's not just me :-)
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07:37<nowhereman>does the hypervisor include inter-domain communication?
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07:39<nowhereman>because typically, a µ-kernel is about both resource management and IPC
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07:44<padski>nowhereman: typically a microkernel seems to be about pratting about with some interesting academic concepts before someone puts unix on top of it ;-)
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07:45<padski>I don't know what the xen hypervisor provides by way of ipc, but your are right there is a difference in approach
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07:50<dpkg>hello, padski
07:50<dpkg>hello, obelix_10
07:50<obelix_10>i need help :S
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07:50<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
07:51<obelix_10>!ask I have a problem with broadcom wireless 1930 in Debian 4.0 lenny
07:52<bzed>obelix_10: that's not a question.
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07:52<bzed>read the !ask text again :)
07:53<obelix_10>i dont speak english
07:53<bzed>obelix_10: which language do you prefer?
07:53<obelix_10>there is a channel that speak spanish?
07:53<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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08:27<vsayikiran>how can i change the volume name of a partition?
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08:27<vsayikiran>i want to change the name of the volume
08:28<vsayikiran>please tell me how to change the volume name
08:28<padski>dos partitions are enumerated according to a fixed algo. lv_rename for lvm
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08:28<padski>and once is enough
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08:31<simonrvn>3 times in less minutes is just plain annoying
08:31<vsayikiran>lvm; command not found
08:31<simonrvn>if you have lvm you probably have it, you probably don't
08:31<vsayikiran>lv_rename: command not found
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08:32<vsayikiran>i want to change the name volume label, please anyone tell me how to do
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08:33<vsayikiran>does anyone know how to rename volume label name
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08:33<vsayikiran>i want to rename the volume label ,please tell me how
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08:45<sheldonh>what's "the debian way" of installing perl modules? cpan?
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08:46<sheldonh>i see some perl modules in the archive, so perhaps there's a debian wrapper for cpan that has it play nicely with apt?
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08:48<gsimmons>sheldonh: Take a look at 'dh-make-perl'.
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08:48<sheldonh>gsimmons: ta
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09:04<tmoesgen>hi out there
09:05<tmoesgen>ive got a question regarding apt
09:05<maxamillion>tmoesgen: fire away
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09:05<tmoesgen>is it possible to tell apt to ignore dependencies for one package?
09:05<maxamillion>tmoesgen: i will do my best to answer accordingly
09:05<tmoesgen>maxamillion: thanks ;)
09:05<lupine_85>tmoesgen: don't think so, but you /can/ do it with dpkg
09:05<maxamillion>tmoesgen: no, not to my knowledge ... but i believe you can download the package (.deb file) and use dpkg to force it
09:05<lupine_85>hardly recommended though
09:06<maxamillion>bah! lupine_85 beat me to it
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09:06<lupine_85>and you can probably pass an APT:: config option to make apt-get do it too
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09:07<tmoesgen>the situation is as follows: we have freenx installed with nxagent installed by dpkg. apt checks freenx and says that nxagent is not installable but it is installed, the dependency-check in this case is useless
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09:12<tmoesgen>so there is no way to disable the dependency-check for one package? no exclude-list?
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09:14<sasha>fhi , does the 2.6.22 kernel support the intel memory boost technologie ?
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09:15<padski>sasha: do you have a link to a description of this tech ?
09:16<tmoesgen>would it be possible to delete the package from the apt-cache, remove the line in the sources.list so that the dependencies wont be checked? or does apt-cache also spawn an "dpkg -l" to get the package list?
09:16<padski>tmoesgen: equivs
09:16<sasha>padski : yes 2 second , to resume it is a pci express slot that you can find on santa rosa laptop where you can put a flash card to speed up vista boot
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09:21<stsee>where are you
09:22<maxamillion>Texas, you?
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09:22<maxamillion>stsee: its night time there right?
09:23<maxamillion>heh ... its 8:23am here
09:23<maxamillion>or 0823 hours
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09:23<maxamillion>depending on how you prefer it said
09:25<alephnull>sasha: I thought it doesn't provide any real benefit.
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09:26<sasha>yes but i would like to know if it can be supported with linux
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09:26<stsee>about debian?
09:27<tmoesgen>thanks for pointing to equivs!
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09:28<stsee>i use debian in my pc
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09:29<stsee>i use debian in my pc now
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09:30<Supaplex>my neuron cluster has no debian port yet
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09:31<stsee>what os do you like?
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09:32<stsee>win or linux?
09:32<sasha>padski : there is nothing about that in there ?? but it looks that it is not yet supported eregading the lack of informations about it on google
09:33<Supaplex>sasha: hahaha LINUX hands down!
09:33<Supaplex>sasha: my bad, misdirect
09:34<padski>sasha: that was the announcement of support at launch from intel (or at least support for the graphics), there is some comment below asking where is the rest, and I though it might help to know the 965GM name for the chipset, but no I have found little mention elsewhere desptire extensive googling. I would think somehwere like lkml they will know
09:34<Supaplex>stsee: tEh LINUX of course! ~~~=:-D
09:34<icy>how can i give an app an fixed id?
09:34<Supaplex>icy: what do you mean a fixed id?
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09:35<icy>i need to start 10 server, everyone should have its fixed id because i want to do a user interface with usermin
09:35<maxamillion>stsee: no offense and i hate to be "that guy" ... but i must, win Vs. Linux is a pointless topic ... you can not compare a kernel to an operating system. You can however compare gnu/linux to windows because you are then actually comparing an operating system to an operating system
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09:35<sasha>definitively not supported : domag
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09:36<Supaplex>he asked for my opinion of what I like. there's no contest there.
09:36<nietopereek>how to install nvidia on freespire 2.06?
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09:36<Supaplex>what is freespire?
09:36<maxamillion>nietopereek: don't know ... maybe you should ask in #freespire?
09:36<maxamillion>Supaplex: a distro that is based on ubuntu
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09:36<nietopereek>freespire is system based on DEBIAN
09:36<maxamillion>Supaplex: its the free version of linspire, which used to be known as lindows
09:37<maxamillion>nietopereek: uhmmm, no .. they switched to ubuntu about 8 months ago
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09:37<Supaplex>dpkg: freespire is <based on> <ubuntu>. Not supported here, regardless of their lack of support. Install Debian today if you want support here :)
09:37<dpkg>okay, Supaplex
09:38<maxamillion>thanks Supaplex
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09:39<Supaplex>dpkg: freespire =~ s/<based/was <lindows>, then <linspire>. Today it's <based/
09:39<dpkg>Supaplex: OK
09:41<sasha>does anybody here already worked on the bio-api specifications ?
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09:44<icy>does anybody know a way to give an instance of an app an fixed id? (i want to set start and stop commands in webmin)
09:44<alephnull>dpkg: freespire =~ s/is was/is/
09:44<dpkg>alephnull: that doesn't contain 'is was'
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09:45<alephnull>hum ?
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09:47<Guest200>Hello, I would like to backup my entire harddrive to another harddrive, but I don't know which software is suits this purpose. Is there any linux on a live-cd which can do that?
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09:49<mickwolfram>ciao a tutti
09:49<alephnull>Guest200: I'd use rsync
09:50<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete (non C'è anche il canale #linux-it là.
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09:50<Guest200>as far as I know, rsync only synchronizes files, and cannot backup whole partitions
09:53<Guest200>has knoppix any good programs for backing up partitions?
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09:53<padski>Guest200: you can read a block device as a stream of bytes, no ?
09:53<sasha>Guest2000 , the gpated live cd may do it , look on the official documentation
09:53<padski>Guest200: I would use dd
09:54<alephnull>dd would make the target partition the same size as the host.
09:55<padski>alephnull: dd would copy bytes from one place to another. any clever stuff you can do yerself ;-P
09:55<Guest200>can gparted backup them, or does it simply copy partitions? With backup, I wish there were features like encryption and the output should be a file and not five more partitions.
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09:56<alephnull>padski: heh. cp copies bytes from one place to another too :)
09:56<padski>alephnull: does cp know about holes ?
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09:59<lupine_85>padski: oO
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10:00<padski>oO ?
10:00<lupine_85>yes, cp knows about sparse files on filesystems that support them :)
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10:01<padski>so it doesn't just copy bytes then ?
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10:01<lupine_85>not sure about the underlying mechanism - sparse files might be transparent to cp, or it might set them itself#
10:02<padski>I think it has to seek to create them ?
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10:08[~]patricio holds up his coffee cup......morning all
10:08<Guest200>I still don't have an idea which software I could use to backup my laptop onto an external harddrive
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10:12<serge>Hello! Which package in Etch I need to install in order to be able to read man termios ?
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10:12<alephnull>serge: manpages-dev probably
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10:13<padski>Guest200: there are numerous backup related packages
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10:13<Guest200>padski: which should I use, I wonder
10:14<padski>Guest200: how to choose ???
10:14<serge>alephnull: thank you
10:15<padski>Guest200: There is also popcon: you can see what is popular.
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10:15<padski>Guest200: but it will be hard to see from popcon who is using tar or rync
10:16<padski>Guest200: if you have a laptop you could also look at technologies like coda
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10:21<icy>i need to start 10 server, everyone should have its fixed id because i want to do a user interface with usermin and dont know which process got which id
10:21<icy>any idea how to do it?
10:22<padski>icy: you don't. you find out the process id after it is make. often it will be stored in a file under /var/run
10:22<padski> or whatever
10:22<icy>well but how am i supposed to set a (static) stop command then
10:23<icy>i know that i can look it up with ps ax
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10:32<Br01>hi all
10:32<Br01>i'm installed openssh sever and client
10:32<Br01>and when i try to connect
10:32<Br01>i get this message
10:32<Br01>debug1: Connecting to [] port 22.
10:32<Br01>debug1: connect to address port 22: Connection timed out
10:32<Br01>ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection timed out
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10:33<petemc>firewall between you and the server?
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10:34<petemc>i get connection refused
10:34<Br01>i don't know ho to open port 22
10:35<petemc>you're running a firewall?
10:36<petemc>can you access the machine locally?>#
10:37<Br01>how to access locally to try !!
10:37<petemc>people generally use a keyboard and a monitor
10:38<Br01>i can access locally petemc
10:39<petemc>netstat -puant|grep 22
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10:40<Br01>what ?
10:40[~]patricio laughs
10:41<petemc>Br01: type that command and tell us if theres anything in the output
10:41<petemc>dont paste in here
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10:45<goldbug>Hi. I'm having problems with DNS resolving Is it just me?
10:46<petemc> A record not found, server failure
10:46<Bousteur>goldbug you're not alone :)
10:46<Br01>tcp 0 0* LISTEN 4 368/wish
10:46<Br01>tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN -
10:46<goldbug>Thanks. Hopefully It'll be back soon :)
10:47<patricio> loads fine for me
10:47<Alam_Debian>me too
10:47<Bousteur>fu#kin' frenchies DNS -_-'
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10:50<adii>hello ! I've just burnt and installed Lenny from Netinstall CD, but it looks like there's no graphic system. I've tried apt-get install gdm xfs but it looks like I need something else
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10:50<adii>anyone can help me out ?
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10:51<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
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10:51<Bousteur>helpful O_o
10:52<goldbug>maybe apt-get install x-window-system-core
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10:55<witte>adii: you should install xserver-xorg and afterwards configure it
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11:18<jthomas>a few weeks ago I read about an application which uses SSH to log into servers and gives a graphical overview of their logfiles... anyone know whjat I am talking about? its a new program
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11:19<Br01>hi all
11:19<Br01>i installed ssh
11:19<Br01>i can access to it localy
11:19<Br01>but others can't
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11:19<Br01>i use iptables
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11:21<dpkg>well, iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at or it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: <masq>, or try #iptables for help, or for a proper debian-way of setting up iptables, please read
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11:21<witte>Br01: they can't because...
11:21<Br01>because what ??
11:21<witte>Br01: I do not know
11:21<witte>Br01: you could tell us
11:21<rooti>i have some problems with anonftpsync, can someone helpe?
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11:21<witte>Br01: they get errors or so?
11:21<Br01>they get timeout
11:22<witte>Br01: it could be that you misconfigured your iptables...
11:22<witte>can they ping to the server?
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11:23<witte>Br01: or are you talking about other users on the same pc?
11:23<Br01>personne who are connectec to the net
11:24<Br01>in local ssh works
11:24<rooti>i have some problems with anonftpsync, can someone helpe?
11:24<witte>!tell rooti about anyone
11:25<witte>rooti: just ask
11:25<rooti>ok , i'll put all errors here
11:25<witte>rooti: no
11:25<witte>rooti: use a pastebin
11:25<witte>!tell rooti about pastebin
11:25<witte>Br01: can those users ping to your machine?
11:26<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
11:26<Br01>witte, plz try to ping
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11:27<rooti>to run ./anonftpsync a new previosoly conected by rsyn to the next mirror?
11:28<witte>Br01: ok, which ip?
11:29<witte>Br01: yeah, that works
11:29<Br01>so what's wrong
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11:29<Br01>try to connect to my ssh server plz
11:30<witte>Br01: when i do a ssh -v to that port, I get a connection refused to that server
11:30<witte>ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection refused
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11:31<Tets>Br01: How is the server connected to the internet? Xprobe guesses that it's HP Jetdirect. Wrong port forwarding on firewall, maybe?
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11:31<witte>Br01: so it seems that port 22 is not allowed from my site for SSH
11:31<Br01>i think Wrong port forwarding on firewall
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11:31<witte>Br01: that could be the problem...
11:32<Tets>Br01: I nmaped it (sorry for that, heh), and port 22 is closed.
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11:32<Br01>i used iptables
11:32<petemc>Br01: you said there was no firewall
11:32<petemc>why must you turn this into a house of lies?
11:32<Br01>petemc, now i have see that i have installed iptables
11:32<witte>16:19 <Br01> i use iptables
11:33<petemc>4:35 < petemc> you're running a firewall?
11:33<petemc>14:35 < Br01> no
11:33<Across>Maybe he doesn't know that IPtables is install automatically?
11:33<witte>petemc: ah, ok i am not so long looking here
11:33<petemc>Across: it isnt
11:33<petemc>well, its available, but not configured
11:34<Across>That's what I mean
11:34<Br01>yes Across i don't know
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11:34<Br01>i see some page in google
11:34<Across>So he may look in his system and seen IPtables
11:34<petemc>Across: if its not configured, its unlikely to be blocking anything
11:34<Br01>and in found that iptables it sort of firewalll
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11:34<Across>yes yes
11:34<Across>But he may doesn't knwo this
11:35<petemc>well, thanks for explaining
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11:36<Br01>petemc, localy ssh works
11:36<petemc>Br01: define local? ssh localhost?
11:36<Br01>using others machine
11:36<Br01>with xp and putty
11:37<petemc>thats not localhost
11:37<Br01>the ip adress of this machine
11:37<petemc>but its clear anyway. as someone else suggested, this sounds like a port forwarding issue
11:37<Tets>Br01: Is your server on some kind of "home connection" (xDSL, Wi-Fi...)?
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11:38<debed>hello did anybody installed drupal in debian etch
11:38<debed>DRUPAL--content management system
11:38<patricio>you need to configure port forwarding when using a DHCP server to issue IP's.......
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11:39<Br01>so i install dhcp server ..??
11:40<patricio>this is killin many computers are on your network?
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11:41<patricio>you have a router that is connected to your internet service?
11:41<Br01>yes patricio
11:41<donny>hi everyone, jjhust installed a new etch system and just finished installing bugzilla. i didn't intend for this system to have a mail system for delivering mail over a network, but bugzilla seems to want *some* way to send email. any advice?
11:41<Br01>and the router is the dhcp server
11:41<debed>heyy naybody DRUPAL
11:42<patricio>you must login to your router and configure port forwarding to enable machines outside of your network to connect via ssh......
11:42<JasonS>debed: try asking your real question
11:42<Br01>ok patricio
11:42<patricio>right petemc?
11:42<cahoot>debed: why don't you just put your real question?
11:42<Br01>i'll try
11:43<debed>hmmm i nstalled drupal CMS but while running the installion script im seeing the fllowing message in my browser
11:43<debed>Your web server does not appear to support any common database types. Check with your hosting provider to see if they offer any databases that Drupal supports.
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11:43<debed>but i installed musql-server-5.o and its working fine
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11:49<Br01>i forward a port with the router
11:49<Br01>it's ok :)
11:50<Br01>thanks to all :)
11:50<Supaplex>debed: php5-mysql
11:50<debed>Supaplex, yeah i installed
11:51<Supaplex>does phpinfo say the mysql module is loaded?
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11:52<donny>debed: if you installed torrentflux recently, your php5 mysql module may have been uninstalled and deconfigured
11:52<donny>debed: i recently experienced the same thing ;)
11:53<debed>donny, can u say me how to check whether php mysql module is installed ina phpinfo page
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11:53<debed>Supaplex, can u tell me where to find that exactly
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11:54<debed>Supaplex, ina phpinfo page...wher shud i see whther php mysql module is installed or not
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11:55<Supaplex>echo '<?PHP phpinfo()' > phpinfo.php
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11:58<Concrete>hey can somebody help me out with a possible kernel issue?\\
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11:58<chealer>!tell Concrete about ask
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11:59<Concrete>Well I have a problem with ntfs-3g
11:59<Concrete>it gives me in the output when mounted the current warning:
11:59<Concrete>WARNING: Deficient Linux kernel detected. Some driver features are
11:59<Concrete> not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and
11:59<Concrete> unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process
11:59<Concrete> naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. If you wish this
11:59<Concrete> message to disappear then you should upgrade to at least kernel
11:59<Concrete> version 2.6.20, or request help from your distribution to fix
11:59<Concrete> the kernel problem. The below web page has more information:
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12:00<Concrete>wellt hat was the problem
12:00<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
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12:01<patricio>Concrete: what kernel u using?
12:01<Concrete>Good question for me to find out
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12:01<Concrete>how can i find it out
12:01|-|xxxx [] has joined #debian
12:01<patricio>Concrete: open a terminal and type 'uname -r'
12:01<Concrete>as root
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12:03<JasonS>well theres your problem then Concrete
12:03<yang>Concrete: upgrade the kernel
12:03<Concrete>ok so i have found the problem
12:03<patricio>Concrete: upgrade your kernel to a 2.6.22 kernel........'that is what I am using' others here may have some better advice as I also look to the professionals here for assistance sometimes
12:03<Concrete>yes is yang a professional?
12:03<witte>Concrete: did you read the message that you tried to paste here?
12:03<Concrete>yeah i know that message
12:03<Concrete>deficient linux kernel
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12:04<patricio>Concrete: it plainly tells you the issue and the resolution......
12:04<JasonS>keep reading Concrete
12:04<Concrete>ok who wants to volunteer as a professional to tell me about how to upgrade the kernel?
12:04[~]patricio laughs
12:04<patricio>is it lunch time yet?
12:05<Concrete>ill look in google
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12:15<Klon_01>hallo :)
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12:16<Klon_01>ich habe ein problem. Debian ( sid ) lässt nicht zu das ich mittels der fn-tasten meine laustärke regle. die helligkeit geht blos die lautstärke nicht. kann mir da jemand helfen?
12:17<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
12:17<Klon_01>thx ^^ but how do you know that im speeking germanxD?
12:18<petemc>i guessed
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12:21<Supaplex>imo german is pretty easy to recognize.
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12:23<Tets>Supaplex: It is. I just discovered that I have the same problem. Funny...
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12:23<Supaplex>with sid? or the rotinue early morning hulliciations that awake you, from which you suffer amnesia?
12:24<Tets>Supaplex: Sid. Fn+LCD brightness works, Fn+Volume control don't. Googling...
12:25<Supaplex>ahh. did that just change?
12:25<Supaplex>I only use sid as a vserver guest
12:25<Tets>Supaplex: No, I never try to use it :D
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12:25<Supaplex>you broke it good man ;)
12:26<Supaplex>de'javu :P
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12:30<privat>hallo all
12:31<privat>hi veresk
12:32<privat>where are you come?
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12:33<veresk>I'm from Russia
12:33<veresk>and you?
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12:34<war>Whenever I login to KDE it always resets my sound to some wierd settings, I even have aumix -L $HOME/.aumixrc in my .kde/AutoStart/ -- what keeps messing with my sound volume?
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12:39<adii>hello ! I've just burnt and installed Lenny from Netinstall CD, but it looks like there's no graphic system. I've tried apt-get install xserver-xorg gdm xfs but it looks like I need something else
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12:41<JasonS>!tell adii about xorg
12:42<patricio>adii: does it tell you that you have unmet dependecies?
12:42<JasonS>adii: oops, errors? messages?
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12:49<Klon_01>so anyone know way my fn-keys dont word ( i mean fpr sound? :) ) p.s nice googeling :) you have translade right
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12:51<arman>hello, can anyone help me with my keyboard properties, here is my bugreport
12:52<arman>i think gnome's using different keyboard settings then console
12:52<arman>what can i do?
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12:55<witte>addi: did you select desktop when installing
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12:58<Tets>Klon_01: I found nothing about Fn keys yet. But I have no time now, I'm moving mail server to the new machine (new OS too)
12:59<witte>arman: I believe that X and console keyboard settings are different: X is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and in console it can be changed by dpkg-reconfigure console-data (iirc)
12:59<Klon_01>Test: k np
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13:00<arman>witte how can i change gnome's keyboard settings?
13:00<Tets>Klon_01: k np? What's that?
13:01<witte>arman: i think gnome uses (or better it should use) the X settings, otherwise, there will be some gnome-only config tool I guess...
13:01<arman>when i am trying gnome-keyboard-properties i am getting this bugreport
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13:02<witte>arman: sorry, but I do not understand that page :)
13:03<arman><witte> me too, thank you
13:03<witte>Tets: "k np" will most likely be "ok, no problem"
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13:04<witte>arman: try to change the X keyboard setting,s and gnome should follow that
13:04<witte>you can look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if the setting is correct
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13:04<Tets>witte: thanks, it make sense now.
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13:07<Klon_01>Test: k=ok np=no problem
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13:09<Tets>Klon_01: I know now. And thanks, I hope so.
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13:31<Trotsky>How do I change my kde to spanish?
13:32<avtobiff>setxkbmap es
13:32<avtobiff>in a terminal
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13:33<adii>witte : sorry for the delay . On the installation, there was not any choice as in the last versions
13:33<adii>not any choice except "basic system" or something like that
13:33<adii>I mean, I was used to selecting the desktop thing
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13:34<Trotsky>This command only passing my keyboard for spanish, I would like to move the entire interface grafica for spanish, which package you have to fall to have the option of the spanish language at the heart of control of my kde?
13:34<fxiny> is down
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13:35<Supaplex>fxiny: call the RIAA and ask them nicely to stop DDoSing it.
13:35<fxiny>Supaplex: them idiots ? hahahah they are busy dossing around yeahhhh :)
13:36<JasonS>adii: error or messages?
13:36<Supaplex>and when they deny it on the phone, conference in MPAA. get them to argue over the phone who's doing it.
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13:37<adii>there was something on the xserver-xorg log (you know when gdm won't start, it flashes a blue screen with (EE) lines in) . but I can't remember what it was
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13:39<Trotsky>How do I change my kde to spanish? =x
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13:40<fxiny>Trotsky: take the hammer off your head and bang it into kde control center : restart set up something ;)
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13:43<fxiny>Trotsky: or : mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old . log out and restart
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13:44<JasonS>adii: the message/error would be very helpful
13:44<JasonS>checked in your log files?
13:44<fxiny>Trotsky: found it : menu > settings > desktop settings wizard
13:45[~]fxiny goes back to flux
13:45<adii>I'll try to check that out , min
13:46<JasonS>adii: you know you can irc from a cmd terminal?
13:48<fxiny>Supaplex: oh btw : it was on the news last but RIIA did not invade Norway this week :P
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13:48<devicenull>hey, something on my system keeps launching "sleep 1" every second or so
13:48<devicenull>is there any way to figure out what it is/
13:50<Supaplex>devicenull: pstree?
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13:50<adii>yea with irssi :)
13:50<janux-xmind>hi guys
13:50<adii>how can you tell ? :)
13:51<adii>i mean "guys" :)
13:51<janux-xmind>i want to develop java programs for mobiles. which package should i install on my debian? thanks
13:51<devicenull>Supaplex: thanks
13:52<devicenull>it's definitely net.agent
13:52<gpm>or maybe you need something special for cellphones?
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13:53<janux-xmind>which one?
13:53<janux-xmind>i'm not a java expert but i want to get started on it
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13:54<scorp>don't know if it is packaged for debian
13:55<janux-xmind>so what should i do?
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13:55<scorp>go to java official site and get the binary installer
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13:56<adii>JasonS, the error I've got is (EE) : AIGLX : Screen 0 is not DRI capable. (I'll just remove the dri thing in the xorg.conf). Another error is "could not open default font 'fixed' "
13:56<janux-xmind>i'll check it
13:57<devicenull>any idea why I have three /lib/udev/net.agent processes running?
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14:02<adii>is there a file that lists the DNS server I'm gonna check
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14:05<evand>I'm trying to set up a simple raid configuration and looking for a good howto. The one at tldp seems to use a mix of raidtools and mdadm; can anyone recommend a more up to date mdadm-based howto?
14:05<adii>I want to add a dns server , how can i do that
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14:05<scorp>adii, modify /etc/resolv.conf
14:06<Eulex>adii, aiglx needs 3d acceleration.
14:06<adii>that's weird, I just installed it and I put vesa module to be used
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14:09<Eulex>adii, since when does the vesa module give you 3d acceleration?
14:09<Eulex>it doesn't even give you 2d acceleration.
14:09<adii>yea that's what i thought
14:10<janux-xmind>hi men
14:10<adii>so I really dunno why it displays that error
14:10<Eulex>adii, what card?
14:10<janux-xmind>how can i get the java virtual machnine installed on my debian
14:10<adii>I dunno about the card, some friend of mine changed it. It's not a too recent one
14:10<Eulex>adii, dri == 3d acceleration. you do not have dri. thus you get that error. because aiglx needs dri.
14:11<adii>but what does it tells me about aiglx when I've never wanted it anyhow
14:11<reflect>janux-xmind: apt-get install jamvm
14:11<Eulex>adii, I'd assume that AIGLX is enabled in your xorg.conf.
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14:12<adii>I've got that xorg.conf on my other screen right now
14:12<adii>I can't see a line with it
14:12<adii>(and it's kinda short)
14:12<Eulex>what version of xorg? xorg 7.3 has composite enabled by default, might be that they have aiglx enabled by default too.
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14:13<Eulex>in any case, both those errors you have are non-fatal. X should still run.
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14:13<adii>xserver-xorg is 7.2-5 (I've checked that with dpkg -l | grep xorg)
14:14<janux-xmind>ok thanks reflect
14:14<adii>back to the real problem : "Fatal server error : could not open default font 'fixed' "
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14:14<reflect>fonts not installed, and i've never heard of the font 'fixed'
14:15<adii>fixedsys or smth ?
14:15<Eulex>reflect, x11-slang for fixedwidth fonts.
14:15<Eulex>adii, no, that's a truetype font.
14:15<Eulex>adii, how did you install xorg? sounds like you didn't install all components. I'd recommend installing x-window-system.
14:16<adii>ahhh here we are :)
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14:17<adii>actually I did it with apt-get install xserver-xorg xfs gdm
14:17<Eulex>that's not enough
14:17<Eulex>and xfs is not needed anymore, afaik
14:18<adii>damn :)
14:18<adii>that's working now
14:18<adii>thanks a lot
14:18<cahoot>doubt you even need xfs
14:19<adii>and.. what do I need to be able to get access to that computer through ssh ?
14:19<adii>i mean something like a ssh daemon
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14:19<adii>might be that :) thanks
14:20<Eulex>or any other ssh server. there's at least one more
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14:22<evand>What partition type should I use for a partition that will be part of a raid group?
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14:48<pablum>my usbdisk keeps dropping into readonly mode (and I can't get up!) even if I start a script to touch a file on the drive periodically
14:48<pablum>it's ext3, too, which leaves FAT off the hook.
14:49<pablum>extended writes to the disk only keep it from happening if they are done using 'mv', en bloc.
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14:52<pablum>I don't think a write will survive a remount in the script either. I'm thinking...
14:52<honschu>How to disable the blinking of the cursor in kwrite/kate ?
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14:52<adii>hello back
14:52<pablum>honschu, type vi in a terminal :)
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14:52<honschu>not in vi, in kwrite!
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14:53<adii>I've got a new problem : it looks like one of my ethernet card keeps deleting the ip address I've set up for it.
14:53[~]pablum hears a breeze
14:53<fxiny>vi ? it likes blinking : use emacs :P
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14:53<dpkg>methinks vi is said to be the true ruler of the text editing world, as opposed to that other windowing software or vim is the better of the vi clones or vi stands for i love journey's escape key or very good training for nethack (jedd) or modal, or see vi basics for instructions on basic use., or visual interface, or see vi tutorial, or apt-get install vimpart for KDE users, or
14:53<scorp>pablum, what about a fsck?
14:53<adii>I mean : I set it up to, and a min after it's gone to nothing
14:53<mz>emacs, nice operating system
14:54<pablum>scorp, hmm. maybe check for bad blocks?
14:54<scorp>pablum, usually, fallbacks to RO mode are made if there is some inconsistency in the FS
14:54<pablum>well fuckle
14:55<scorp>if you have bad blocks, you should see a lot of errors in dmesg
14:55<pablum>I'll try it.
14:55<scorp>dmesg|tail and check
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14:56<honschu>How to disable the blinking of the cursor in kwrite/kate ?
14:56<pablum>indeed, my message log indicates errors on sdb1
14:57<pablum>this is a brand new drive!
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14:57<scorp>pablum, i think it is going to say goodbye :p
14:57<scorp>manufacture defects?
14:57<scorp>it's a maxtor drive? lol
14:57[~]pablum got a seagate for the 5-year warranty
14:58<jthomas>crontab -e opens in Nano and I have my editor as Vim; how can i make crontab -e always open in Vim?
14:58<honschu>jthomas: look in /etc/alternatives
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14:59<jthomas>that was it, thank you!
14:59<fxiny>man update-alternatives
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15:00[~]pablum taps fingers, waiting for 500G fsck...
15:01<jthomas>yeah i had to wait through the same thing last night, took forever
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15:03<donny>during dpkg --configure websvn, it told me that thing about needing permission to create locks in the svn repository -- anyone have any experience/advice they can share about the issue?
15:03[~]pablum wonders if scorp is a wooddorker
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15:06<adii>anyone got an idea : my eth0 keeps changing its IP from (which I set up) to nothing
15:06<pablum>why in heck don't I get a message at the terminal about errors in the drive when I mount it?
15:06<Eulex>pablum, check dmesg?
15:06<donny>adii: how did you set it?
15:06<adii>with ifconfig eth0 inet :)
15:07<pablum>Eulex, well, they're in the message log
15:07<petemc>pablum: why in heck dont you check logs?
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15:07<pablum>Eulex, it's a usbdrive, should I tail my log every time I plug the bitch in?
15:07<flyertanks>help please
15:08<pablum>er... petemc
15:08<donny>adii: you should modify /etc/network/interfaces (or wherever its located) instead
15:08<petemc>pablum: if you want to know whats going on with your system, you check logs
15:08<donny>adii: you may be fighting debian to set your networking options -- is dhclient running?
15:08<adii>I've done that too (the interfaces thing)
15:08<flyertanks>i dont speak english
15:08<adii>dhclieht is running on the other network card
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15:08<adii>which is stable
15:08<flyertanks>e naum tem ninguem no debian-br
15:08<donny>adii: care to show your interfaces file?
15:08<pablum>well, having done that and found errors, I really don't know why you are saying useless things
15:09<flyertanks>algum brasileiro por favor
15:09<pablum>also petemc
15:09<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
15:09<petemc>pablum: i was responding to your complaint about messages not being printed to the terminal
15:09<adii>I wish I could but I'm on the console right now , using irssi so it might be hard to copy/paste it
15:09<pablum>yeah, it's still irrelevant
15:09[~]donny shrugs
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15:09<petemc>im free to respond if i wish
15:09<flyertanks>algum brasleiro por favor?
15:09<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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15:10<JasonS>bet it wont sink in though
15:10<adii>maybe that "allow-hotplug eth0" is not welcome ?
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15:12<pablum>wow, first time fixing a drive with journaling. It's almost a letdown.
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15:14<pablum>now I can hope those drops to read-only stop. :)
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15:21<[gloom]>which is the bedian brazillian channel? someone knows?
15:21<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
15:21<ChaosR>I have a problem (when do I not), I just recently (15 minutes ago) switched back to debian from windows. now I installed the real firefox (i prefer it cuz of the fonts), but it gives this error: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
15:21<[gloom]>ok thanks
15:21<ChaosR>when I ldd the file it seems a lot of things are missing
15:22<ChaosR>most of the files are simply in the directory, but it can't find them, any clue why?
15:23<Supaplex>ChaosR: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search
15:24<ChaosR>libgtk2.0-0: usr/lib/ libgtk2.0-0: usr/lib/ libgtk2.0-0-dbg: usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/
15:24<scorp>so apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
15:25<ChaosR>libgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version.
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15:25<ChaosR>I already installed it, I have 1 year of linux experience, i'm not that stupid
15:25<Supaplex>don't think for a minute i suspect you're stupid
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15:26[~]fxiny tar xvf BOFH.tar.bz2
15:26<Nemoder>ChaosR: ls /usr/lib/
15:26<scorp>lol fxiny
15:26<ChaosR>the file is there
15:26<fxiny>scorp: ;)
15:27<Nemoder>ChaosR: is it a broken symlink?
15:27<ChaosR>how would I test that?
15:27<Nemoder>ls -l
15:27<ChaosR>(readlink result)
15:28<Nemoder>is it supposed to be pointing to the instead?
15:28<ChaosR>I dunno, I have lenny ;)
15:29<Nemoder>lenny just updated libgtk2 today
15:29<ChaosR>might be worth mentioning
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15:29<Supaplex>yes, always mention which release you're tracking.
15:29<adii>hello again :)
15:30<adii>I want to mount a disk that is on /dev/sda (of computer 1) somewhere on computer 2
15:30<adii>can I do it simply with mount ?
15:30<Nemoder>ChaosR: you could try updating again and then: apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 --reinstall
15:31<ChaosR>here is the real problem, when I ldd the binary, it gives things like this: => not found
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15:32<scorp>or use strace to see where the fuck firefox is searching for gtk2 libraries :)
15:32<mark>Can someone tell me how to find the device name assigned to a NI-6008 microcontroller plugged into a USB port?
15:32<mark>lsusb gives : Bus 007 Device 009: ID 3923:717a National Instruments Corp.
15:33<ChaosR>I think I understand, stupid me
15:33<ChaosR>I have amd64 version, and I most likely, downloaded the i686 version
15:33<mark>how does that translate to sda1 or something similar?
15:34<petemc>mark: check dmesg and /var/log/messages
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15:35<mark>dmesg yields similar output: localhost kernel: usb 7-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9
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15:35<Nemoder>hwinfo --usb might give you more info, although I'm not sure if that helps either
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15:36<ChaosR>will it work if I compile the source?
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15:39<mark>hwinfo tells me a lot about the device but no mount point or device name
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15:39<donny>how do you enable hooks in subversion? i thought it would just run a file called repo/hooks/svn-commit
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15:44<adii>can I mount ( or bind ) something from a computer 1 (like /dev/sda1) somewhere on another computer ?
15:44<petemc>using network filesystems, sure
15:44<Myon>or nbd, ymmv
15:44<adii>network filesystems ? :)
15:45<donny>oh, that was it.. i forgot it throws out the PATH environ
15:45<Myon>donny: got it?
15:45<petemc>adii: nfs and samba would some of the more common network fs
15:45<avtobiff>adii, nfs, samba for inshance
15:45<avtobiff>shoot :-)
15:46<adii>i'll check out that nfs thing cos i'm sick with samba :)
15:47<mark>petemc: are there any other ways to figure out a mount point or device name?
15:47<petemc>mark: start trying to mount things
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15:48<avtobiff>adii, check manual pages exports and export
15:48<petemc>i use to believe you could derive the device name by looking in /proc/scsi/scsi , but that turned out to be a red herring
15:48<adii>okay i'll
15:48<mark>petemc: I'm familiar with mounting drives and other memory type devices but how do I do that to something like this microcontroller?
15:49<petemc>no idea, sorry
15:49<petemc>you assume it does usb-storage type stuff?
15:50<petemc>thats not my understanding of a microcontroller, but its not something i know much about
15:50<mark>no, I'm not assuming any usb storage. I've just never mounted a microcontoller manually
15:50<petemc>when you say mount.. ?
15:51<mark>it's being auto-mounted, but I can't figure out the mount point
15:51<petemc>so you are assuming usb-storage?
15:52<mark>I don't know what is assumed by usbmount
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15:52<petemc>you mount partitions
15:52<Juarez>Boa tarde
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15:52<mark>I know that, but I'm trying to fix permissions on the microcontoller
15:53<petemc>im obviously of no help to you, sorry
15:53<mark>petemc: thanks for trying
15:54<mark>petemc: any suggestions where I might find an answer about device permissions?
15:55<petemc>i would try and clear up exactly how the device presents itself before worrying about permissions
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15:57<ChaosR>firefox build problem: checking MOZ_GTK2_LIBS... -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lfontconfig -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lX11 -lXfixes -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
15:57<Myon>build-depends are installed?
15:58<ChaosR>I suppose
15:58<Myon>well, grab the debian source and dpkg-buildpackage it
15:58<ChaosR>why would I do that, I want the original new firefox
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16:00<ChaosR>or, maybe I have another question
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16:00<ChaosR>how do I make GTK application look good (aka themed) in KDE on debian
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16:00<ChaosR>I remember kubuntu had a option for it, but I can't find it on debian
16:01<lupine_85>ChaosR: you want qtcurve, IIIRC
16:02<lupine_85>and "Apply KDE themes to non-KDE applications" in kcontrol - somewhere
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16:03[~]lupine_85 sets fire to grafik
16:03[~]ChaosR trows a fox on the fire
16:03<lupine_85>poor fox
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16:07<ChaosR>lupine_85, what to do with qtcurve?
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16:17<rmspunk>alguien me puede ayudar, tnego problema en la instalacion de mis driver ATI
16:18<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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16:19<rmspunk>how add it channel
16:20<rmspunk>i'm novato
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16:20[~]dkr considers hacking dpkg with the spamassassin patterns for detecting non-english and then whois the ip to see country code and say the matching factoid
16:20<dkr>rmspunk: /join #debian-es
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16:21<hcd009>someone can teach me install cedega
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16:25[~]pablum sees no scorp
16:26<pablum>well, fixing the errors on the ext3 usbdrive doesn't stop the frequent drops to readonly. :(
16:27<pablum>Actually, those inconsistencies I fixed were probably cause by a drop to readonly during a write to the disk.
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16:28<pablum>and not causative in themselves
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16:31<donny>doesn't moinmoin support producing an RSS for RecentChanges out of the box?
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16:31<donny>i could have sworn the last time i installed it on debian it did
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16:37[~]pablum decides to install smartmontools
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16:38<pablum>sheesh, is that one person from panulirus?
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16:41<pablum>hah, SMART not supported by this seagate usbdisk
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16:44<Bombadil>according to the package libchipcard3 is waiving up and down the Needs-Build-Queue between places 50 and 100. Any idea how to fix this?
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16:48<jmichaelx>could someone point me to a list of debian-multimedia repo mirrors? the server for debian-multimedia repo that i have in sources.list appears to be down
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16:56<floku>jmichaelx: If you google for "mirror" you can access the cached list in the search results.
16:57<Bombadil>floku: isn't down
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16:59<floku>Bombadil: I cannot access it right now (from Spain). I get a 502 error, so it might be a problem with some DNS servers.
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17:01<Bombadil>hmm, strange
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17:03<floku>I get "3(NXDOMAIN)" if I try to look it up right now.
17:05<jmichaelx>floku: ty for the info. i found a working mirror
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17:05<jmichaelx>Bombadil: for me is down
17:06<pablum>can you trust a mirror? Is it official?
17:06<lupine_85>it's an official unofficial debian mirror
17:06<floku>Bombadil: can you post the IP address so that we can try directly?
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17:07<floku>the packages are signed with Marillat's key, so apt can verify them no matter which mirror they come from
17:07<pablum>np then
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17:08<Bombadil>that's strange: has address
17:08<Bombadil>Host not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
17:09<floku>I can still connect using the IP address
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17:11<pablum>okay, it looks like this usbdrive spins down when it's not being accessed, and that's when it drops to readonly... at least, I could here it spin up when I tried to write to it
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17:12[~]pablum wonders how to turn off the spindown on a usbdisk (hdparm won't touch it)
17:12<pablum>ooh, sdparm is such a thing. :)
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17:16<legion>how do i access my book (western digital) on debian? its formated as NTFS
17:16<legion>i heard ntfs driver or fs driver? can be used, but a google didnt give me much results
17:17<dpkg>from memory, ntfs is Windows NT's filesystem. There are 2 main drivers in Debian, a Linux driver only able to read and NTFS-3G, a FUSE driver able to write too. For information about the former, ask me about <ntfsro>. For information about the latter, ask me about <ntfs-3g>. See also and
17:17<legion>thanks pablum
17:17<dpkg>add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want.
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17:18<pablum>legion, you can use /msg to have a private talk with dpkg
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17:19<legion>ah excellent
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17:30<pablum>only thing I see is to periodically send a 'start' command to the drive to keep it from spinning down, or reset the spindown feature...
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17:31<Trollinator>When will 2.6.23 be brought to Sid?
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17:32<azeem>22:26 < stew> Trollinator: i doubt that anybody could know that
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17:33<Trollinator>azeem: that's a quote from freenode...
17:33<azeem>Trollinator: right, so we don't have to discuss it twice
17:33<Trollinator>azeem: look, just don't get on my nerves. Please...
17:34<floku>Trollinator: if you need 2.6.23 you can put
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17:34<floku>Trollinator: deb trunk main
17:34<Trollinator>I don't actually need it.
17:34<floku>Trollinator: into your sources.list
17:35<Trollinator>I just wonder if it's more responsive due to the new scheduler.
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17:35<azeem>Trollinator: eh, how is that related to your initial question?
17:35<agent>my usb dvd drive is now /dev/dvd3 and not /dev/dvd: dd no longer works & k3b iso copy completes, but the last 30% or so of every dvd i have tried is bad... i have used this drive to copy dvd's to iso for a long time and it was okay via dd and k3b until now. what could be wrong?
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17:42<floku>Trollinator: debian-kernel/trunk has ready-to-use 2.6.23 debs, install the one for your architecture and just try it for yourself
17:42<Trollinator>floku: thank you.
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17:45<hemoglobin>hi, I have installed Debian 4.0 etch stable, and I have question. How I can update it to "testing" ?
17:46<azeem>hemoglobin: why do you need to?
17:46<azeem>testing is less tested
17:46<hemoglobin>but apps are out of day
17:46<dpkg>First, see <apt-listbugs>. Next, edit sources.list (# editor /etc/apt/sources.list), change all non-local mentions of 'etch' or 'stable' to 'lenny'. Save the file, then update and dist-upgrade. Also consider subscribing to debian-devel-announce (ask me about <d-d-a>) to be aware of what developments are happening. NOTE: you should be running a 2.6 kernel before trying to upgrade
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17:47<azeem>hemoglobin: are you running a 2.6 kernel?
17:47<hemoglobin>I thong yes
17:47<lupine_85>get yours today!
17:48<hemoglobin>why ?
17:48<peterrooney>hemoglobin: if you -must-, one way is to change all instances of 'etch' to 'lenny' in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade to find which kernel you're using, uname -a
17:48<azeem>hemoglobin: see the last sentence from dpkg
17:49<hemoglobin>I just wan t have newer sowtware , like for example in ubuntu
17:49<hemoglobin>pidgin, OO 2.3 etc...
17:49<peterrooney>hemoglobin: change "dist-upgrade" to "distupgrade ; And " in my last post
17:49<lupine_85>well, testing does have newer software in
17:49<lupine_85>also newer bugs
17:50<peterrooney>lenny: or, get your busg here before anyone else!
17:50<hemoglobin>bugs are good, I am 1,5 year without windows, it is missing to me :-D
17:50<witte>lupine_85: also such as in ubuntu
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17:51<hemoglobin>dpkg:thank you, and thx to all
17:51<dpkg>hemoglobin: my pleasure
17:52<hemoglobin>btw is here someone who is younger than 16 age ?
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17:52<witte>hemoglobin: it is 22:52: everyone younger than 16 should be in bed! ;-)
17:53<floku>witte: ... passed out drunk...
17:53<witte>floku: yeah, more likely :-)
17:54<hemoglobin>witte , where are you from ?
17:54<witte>hemoglobin: belgium
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17:55<Br01>hi all
17:55<Br01>how to remove the ~ form my ident
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17:57<peterrooney>Br01: do you mean your shell prompt?
17:58<pablum>cd ..
17:58<witte>Br01: are you using bash?
17:58<peterrooney>Br01: change your PS1 variable (man bash should help a whole lot)
17:58<Br01>witte, yes
17:59<bad_code>Does anyone know if the ATI Linux drivers from the official ATI website are the same thing as the ATI restricted hardware package in Ubuntu?ATI claims the drivers are for RedHat and OpenSuse.
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17:59<witte>Br01: ok, then do as peterrooney says; change PS1 in your ~/.bashrc file (or add it), look at the web for the bash prompt howto
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18:00<Br01>i'll try
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18:00<Br01>and how to modify right in the shell
18:01<peterrooney>Br01: or, look at man bash and search for prompting.
18:01<peterrooney>Br01: PS1="\@ \h \u \#"
18:01<pablum>Br01, look at /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/scripts.noah/prompt.bash if you have the bash docs installed
18:01<witte>Br01: you can export the PS1 variable
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18:02<Br01>okk :))
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18:06<legion>getting a new kernel update does NOT overwrite my GRUB settings right?
18:07<sepski>legion, ir will most likely run update-grub,
18:07<witte>legion: it will
18:07<sepski>and update-grub rewrites the automatic part of the grub
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18:07<sepski>(from the settings you have specified in the non automatic part)
18:07<legion>so when i reboot my box.. i cant boot windowsxp anymore?
18:07<legion>sorry for being overlynoobish
18:08<sepski>legion, if you placed the windows stances outside the automatic part it's ok
18:08<witte>legion: there should be a part in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file that is not affected by these updates
18:08<legion>sepski i just followed the simple network install ?
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18:08<sepski>it's marked rather clearly
18:08<witte>sepski: you tell exactly the same as I do, only faster :P
18:08<sepski>legion, then it's safe
18:09<legion>ah thanks sepski witte :)
18:09<sepski>witte, ill shut up now :)
18:09<sepski>hear a bed calling
18:09<witte>sepski: :-)
18:09<legion>the ONLY reason i use winxp is because thats the only way i know of to flash my DVDROMS
18:09<sepski>flash ? a dvd?
18:10<legion>the firmware
18:10<sepski>you do that a lot do you ?
18:10<legion>diff drives :p
18:10<bad_code>you could try "Wine"
18:10<bad_code>in Linux
18:10<bad_code>to run whatever software does it for ya
18:11<legion>thanks ill look into it bad_code
18:11<Trollinator>i doubt that'll work
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18:11<Trollinator>legion: what drive is that?
18:12<witte>bad_code: wine somethimes works, but often it just doesn't
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18:12<legion>Samsung TS-H943, Hitachi v48+
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18:12<bad_code>No claims about "Wine" on my side, just a suggestion as an experimental idea.
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18:14<floku>legion: Are there DOS-based flash tool for the drives? You could make a custom freedos boot disk with the tools on it in that case.
18:15<witte>bad_code: ok, I agree that you can always try it, but I thought there should be a "no warrenty" sticker attached to it ;-)
18:15<sepski>or run them from dosemu that's quite reliable
18:15<Trollinator>witte: it has become a _lot_ better though
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18:16<Trollinator>I could run Flatout and Tomb Raider: Anniversary almost flawlessly
18:16<witte>Trollinator: well, my last experience was that it did work with a version 12 of a certain software, but not with 13...
18:16<witte>so yes, sometimes it works, somethimes it doesn't; at least that is my experience
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18:18<bad_code>You could also use The Ultimate Boot CD4Windows and customize the software packages (add the software you need). You can dload the UBCD4Win from it comes with utility called PEBuilder. You will need a WinXP CD as a source to compile the actual image.
18:18<bad_code>It's a good little tool I like it.
18:19<bad_code>It's basically like a live WinXP CD...sort of with custom apps.
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18:21<floku>bad_code: I see, then you at least do not need to keep it installed on your hard drive anymore.
18:22<legion>great ideas guys
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18:23<dpkg>it has been said that bash is the Bourne Again Shell, and the default debian shell.
18:23<legion>floku/bad_code <-- ive saved your quotes in a .txt .. gonna check out both tools, hopefully this will make sure I NEVER have to get back to win:)
18:23<Trollinator>bash must die.
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18:25<floku>legion: wait a moment, I'll try to find that one good how-to again that I used a while ago
18:25<legion>thanks :)
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18:27<Br01>i can't do nothing to remove thé ~
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18:30<floku>legion: this is for the BIOS, but it should work for any DOS-based flashing tool
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18:32<witte>Br01: what do you not like about ~.
18:32<witte>Br01: do you prefer /home/Br01?
18:32<Br01>yes witte
18:34<bad_code>*drools over the new solid state hard drives* 1ms access time..ack!
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18:35<witte>Br01: untested: try this in a shell: PROMPT_COMMAND=SHELL
18:35<witte>Br01: export SHELL
18:35<witte>export PROMPT_COMMAND
18:36<legion>floku, hmm.. does it support SATA?
18:37<bad_code>whoa... 0.5ms access time...
18:37<Br01>bash: SHELL: command not found
18:37<legion>sorry for the stupid questions
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18:38<legion>but freedos will generate a dos enviroment so i can access various emergency modes through the rom?
18:38<floku>legion: I would not bet on it (I used it for my laptop's bios; this laptop does not have SATA drives.)
18:39<witte>Br01: mmm, should be $SHELL probalby, but just tried is, that also does not work
18:39<witte>Br01: it should not be that difficult, but you better ask in #bash somewhere
18:39<floku>legion: If you have the WinXP CD anyway then bad_code's suggested methos is probably the safest
18:39<legion>floku i see, well it doesnt hurt to try. thanks for your suggestion!
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18:40<Br01>i asked noone answer :)
18:40<witte>well, ask later, or ask again here later when someone who has done it can tell you
18:41<witte>it is probably quite easy that you just have to know, and it is not something of vital importance
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18:41<Br01>yes witte :)
18:41<witte>Br01: found it
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18:42<witte>PS1='[\u@\h $PWD]\$'
18:42<witte>that seems to work
18:42<Br01>were i can found this line
18:42<Br01>in wich file ?
18:42<witte>Br01: depending
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18:43<witte>do you want this system-wide or only for your user
18:43<witte>probably you want it in ~/.bashrc
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18:44<witte>ah, so you want it in /etc/bash.bashrc
18:44<witte>but that file will be overwritten in case you install a new bash I think
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18:44<witte>and I want to suggest a small improvement to the line:
18:45<witte>PS1='[\u@\h $PWD]\$ '
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18:46<Br01>this line isint write
18:47<witte>Br01: sorry, I do not understand what you try to say?
18:47<Br01>sorry witte, my english is bad
18:48<witte>Br01: yeah, that line is similar, you can change the \w to $PWD (but i suggest copying that line first and comment it out, for future reference)
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18:50<Br01>ok witte
18:50<legion>im confused here free nvidia drivers does NOT support 3D .. but how im i suppose to use xigl then O_O
18:51<bad_code>they doo
18:51<bad_code>I'm using a GeForce 7600GT
18:51<bad_code>with OpenGL drivers working fine
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18:52<bad_code>3d acceleration works...
18:52<witte>Br01: you probably also want to add a line source /etc/bash.bashrc in /etc/profile
18:52<legion> <-- says no 3d support
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18:52<legion>bad_code, hmm i see.. can you pick resolution as well? Im using nv and i only have 1024x768 ?
18:52<witte>that is "source /etc/bash.bashrc" as a line (just to make things clear)
18:52<Gathond>legion: I'm using nv and I have 1280x800
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18:53<legion>and the system feels .. kinda "slow" and chuggy like i dont have th eright drivers or something
18:53<Gathond>legion: no 3d though
18:53<legion>Gathond, how do you get higher resolutions?
18:53<Gathond>legion: but I can hibernate/suspend-ram :)
18:53<witte>legion: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
18:53<Gathond>which I can't with nvidias binary crap, or the first bit is fine (I think) it just never awakes
18:54<Gathond>legion: I just edited /etc7X11/xorg.conf iirc
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18:54<bad_code>yeah I'm in 1280x1024
18:54<Gathond>legion: you might have to adjust the default monitor refres rates though
18:54<bad_code>I'm using the Ubuntu distro...
18:54<Gathond>legion: for an LCD they don't really matter, but setting them too low might force X to reject higher resolutions
18:55<bad_code>make sure you have the right monitor settings
18:55<Br01>how to add bash.bashrc to the profile
18:55<legion>debian here, okay so im suppose to nano /etc7x11/xorg.conf ?
18:55<bad_code>I'm on Gutsy 7.10
18:55<bad_code>good distro.
18:55<witte>legion: the 7 should be a /
18:55<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
18:55<legion>oh thanks
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18:56<witte>and the prefered way is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
18:56<witte>not editing xorg.conf
18:56<legion>i tried that
18:56<legion>dpkg-reconfigure command not found
18:56<witte>as root ;-)
18:56<legion>as root i get unknow id
18:57<hemoglobin>dpkg you are chat admin ?
18:57<dpkg>I think you lost me on that one, hemoglobin
18:57<witte>legion: unknown id?
18:57<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
18:57<legion>Unknown id: dpkg-reconfigure
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18:58<Br01>witte, the ~ percist
18:58<witte>legion: strange error... you are on a recent debian system
18:58<witte>Br01: it is only after loggin in
18:58<witte>Br01: go to a console
18:58<witte>and try there
18:59<witte>legion: and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
18:59<witte>legion: if you configured sudo...
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19:00<legion>i used su before
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19:00<legion>when i try sudo it says my passw is incorrect
19:00<witte>Br01: and to add bash.bashrc to the profile: add "source /etc/bash.bashrc" in /etc/profile
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19:00<legion>but its the same pw i used for root during install?
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19:00<witte>legion: for sudo you have to use your own password
19:00<witte>not root
19:00<alex>legion: add yourself to /etc/sudoers
19:01<legion>got a guide :P ?
19:01<legion>nano /etc/sudoers and my name "legion" ?
19:01<themill>visudo not nano /etc/sudoers
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19:02<legion>bash: visudo: command not found
19:02<alex>legion: something along the lines "legion ALL=(ALL) ALL " should work
19:02<themill>legion: you have to run that as root...
19:02<alex>legion: su nano /etc/sudoers
19:03<themill>alex: visudo is preferable to editing the file directly as it does a syntax check before overwriting the file.
19:03<legion>i cant get in no matter what i try, sudo or su
19:03<legion>su says unknown id on nano and visudo
19:03<legion>sudo says wrong passw
19:04<alex>legion: are you configuring ubuntu or debian system?
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19:04<themill>legion: if you use su, then you use the root passwd; if you use sudo (and have set yourself up for sudo access) then you use your user passed
19:04<Br01>witte, ~ percist
19:05<alex>legion: can you log in as root?
19:05<legion>themill well when i type in su nano it says nano unknown id
19:05<themill>legion: that's because that syntax is just plain wrong/
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19:05<witte>Br01: can you put /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile in a pastebin
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19:06<themill>legion: do you know your root passwd?
19:06<witte>!tell Br01 -about pastebin
19:06<legion>if its the same i used during install as root yes
19:06<legion>i have 2 passw 1 for root and 1 for user
19:06<themill>legion: it should be. Are you currently running under X or on console?
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19:06<Br01>ok witte
19:06<legion>x themill
19:07<themill>legion: ok. So, in a terminal, run the command: su -
19:07<alex>legion: then log in in console, by suspending X using ctrl+alt+f6 then log in as root, edit sudo file, logout resume X by pressing ctrl+alt+f7
19:07<themill>legion: then give your root password
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19:10<legion>thanks themill/alex I just reconfigured xorg
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19:11<legion>but it looks like it doesnt detect my card? i still cant use another resolution even if i pick one higher then 1024
19:11<themill>legion: what card do you have?
19:11<legion>nvidia - geforce 6200
19:12<themill>and are you trying to use the (free) nv driver or the (non-free) nvidia one?
19:12<witte>Br01: add the line "source /etc/bash.bashrc" in /etc/profile
19:12<legion>free nv driver
19:12<witte>Br01: oh, it is there
19:12<witte>Br01: in the end
19:12<witte>you redefine PS1 in /etc/profile
19:13<witte>so somewhere after path
19:13<Br01>ok witte
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19:13<legion>themill, and system feels kinda sluggish like the drivers arent right or something?
19:14<witte>legion: this card is supported by nv, and should give reasonable performance (but no 3D)
19:14<themill>legion: nv will probably underperform nvidia, but I'm no expert on nvidia hardware. Are there any relevant EE or WW lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
19:15<Br01>witte, samething
19:15<witte>even after logging in again on a console?
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19:15<Br01>with kterminal
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19:15<themill>Br01: I've only just joined the channel recently... are you having trouble with things in /etc/profile not seeming to do anything?
19:16<witte>Br01: and do you have a line with PS1 in your ~/.bashrc overwriting the one in /etc/bash.bashrc
19:16<aguu>george i installed grub!
19:16<aguu>but i have a problem starting xorg
19:16<legion>themill want me to use pastebin?
19:16<witte>themill: he wants to alter the look&feel of his prompt
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19:16<witte>themill: system-wide
19:16<aguu>it says that i dont have a valid fontpath
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19:17<witte>themill: so I told him to add a line to /etc/bash.bashrc and source that file in /etc/profile
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19:17<themill>witte: OK. changes to /etc/profile (and ~/.bash_profile) only apply to login shells, i.e. not kterminal or konsole or xterm unless you set them up specifically to be a login shell.
19:17<themill>witte: I'm not sure if that is a problem here....
19:17<themill>witte: trying "bash -ls" can help diagnose that.
19:18<legion>themill, when you have the time ---> X Window System Version 7.1.1
19:18<legion>Release Date: 12 May 2006
19:18<legion>X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
19:18<legion>Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
19:18<legion>Current Operating System: Linux c83-254-247-235 2.6.18-5-486 #1 Tue Oct 2 23:38$Build Date: 04 September 2007
19:18|-|legion kicked [#debian] debhelper [use the paster bot or #flood]
19:18<witte>themill: ah, ok where does one set that
19:18<themill>!tell legion about paste
19:18<aguu>"no valid fontpath can be found"
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19:18<witte>!tell legion -about pastebin
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19:18<legion>sorry about that guys , old paste was in memory
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19:19<aguu>i cant start x because it says "no valid fontpath can be found"
19:19<legion> <-- themill
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19:19<george>aguu: and it's working?
19:19<themill>witte: depends on the terminal... in konsole you change the shell startup to read bash -ls not just bash. similarly xterm -ls (or monkey with the Xresources)
19:19<aguu>yes but the x dont start
19:19<aguu>do i need to install some fonts?
19:19<george>that part isn't grub
19:20<george>so, cool, grub is working :)
19:20<witte>Br01: you read what themill told: need to try "bash -ls"
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19:20<Br01>i restart to enter to the console
19:20<george>you don't have to
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19:21<george>just try ctrl-alt-f1
19:21<EmleyMoor>What's up with at the moment? I have an update due from there and can't resolve it
19:21<aguu>i put apt-get install xserver-xorg
19:21<witte>themill: bash -ls does not output anything in xterm and konsole
19:22<themill>legion: that's only the start of the file... can you pastebin the entire thing? Either open the log in a GUI editor (not nano) so you can select everything, or /msg dpkg pastebin pipe
19:22<aguu>and for what si ctrl-alt-f1?
19:22<george>(so, to get out of X type ctrl-alt-backspace) which should mean you could run X
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19:22<themill>witte: it shouldn't really output anything, just starts a new session of bash but sourcing the profile not just the rc files.
19:22<aguu>no i cant
19:22<aguu>i put startx
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19:23<aguu>and says cant start x because "no valid fontpath can be found"
19:23<Br01>witte, it percist
19:23<themill>witte: if you exit/logout/^D that shell, you'll go up one level of shell and still be there....
19:23<themill>witte: (rather than closing the konsole, I mean)
19:24<legion>what gui editor do you recomend themill
19:24<Br01>i get a message echec
19:24<themill>legion: if you're using kde, then kwrite, if gnome, the gedit.
19:24<george>editor? try using cat, echo, head, tail, grep
19:24<george>put em together somehow
19:24<themill>george: you're a bit out of context there...
19:25<witte>themill: ok, I see, I did not do the adjustments myself, I will try now
19:25<aguu>what if i put apt-get install xfonts?
19:25<aguu>i will try
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19:29<themill>legion: is your monitor capable of higher resolution? X doesn't think that it is. ;(
19:30<legion>themill yeah its a samsung tft syncmaster 206bw in windows i have max reso 1600x
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19:31<witte>legion: upload your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a pastebin as well please
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19:31<witte>legion: are you running stable, testing or sid?
19:31<witte>Br01: why do you constantly leave?
19:32<Br01>i restared
19:32<Br01>but doesn't work
19:32<Br01>i restore the original file
19:32<Br01>becaue i get some message of echec when i log
19:33<witte>which message
19:33<legion>witte , how do i know which version im running?
19:33<themill>legion: cat /etc/debian_version
19:33<Br01>i say "1 message echec"
19:33<Br01>that all
19:33<witte>Br01: and do you have an instance of PS1 in ~/.bashrc
19:34<legion>witte, themill cat /etc/debian_version gives me 4.0
19:34<Br01>i past to you what's write in the 2 files
19:34<witte>Br01: in a pastbin, ok
19:34<themill>legion: for future reference, that's the current stable version of debian, known as "etch".
19:34<witte>legion: that is stable
19:35<legion>okay I will remember that, did you get my paste witte?
19:36<witte>legion: yep, I am having a look at it. You do not need hsync and vsync anymore
19:36<adii>is there a film worth watching that you think of right now ?
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19:38<witte>legion: and you could try manually adding higher modes to that file, they should work
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19:38<witte>adii: no
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19:42<legion>witte can i see your xorg.conf? i assume you have higher res then 1024?
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19:43<witte>legion: you can, but i have no nv
19:44<legion>witte i only want to see how you wrote in the higher resolutions!
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19:48<witte>legion: I should clean up the file as well, but it works currently
19:48<witte>!rule 1
19:48<dpkg>If it's not broken, don't fix it.
19:48<legion>hahha great
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19:48<legion>witte so if i just add higher resolutions under mode 1 it will work?
19:48<witte>legion: it should
19:49<witte>but normally dpkg-reconfigure should have presented higher values as well
19:49<legion>im gonna try adding in 1400x900
19:49<legion>how do I kill gui and then restart gui i mean x?
19:49<witte>btw: while changing, you should remove HorizSync and VertRefresh
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19:50<legion>witte oh why?
19:50<witte>DMPS is "ask the monitor" btw: remove is put a # in front for now
19:50<witte>new monitors are intelligent enough to speak with the video card
19:51<legion>i thought # were comments?
19:51<witte>the vsync and hsync rates are a bit outdated
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19:51<legion>should i del the numbers or Horizsynch and vertrefresh completly i mean the characters as well or justthe number ?
19:51<witte>ah, yes, so if you put a # in front of HorizSync, it wont be read by the xorg software
19:52<witte>legion: no the complete line
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19:53<legion>okay witte how do i test it? restart x if so how?
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19:53<witte>ok, but the most important is the "1400x900" fo course
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19:53<witte>yes, ctrl-alt-backspace will restart x (instantly)
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19:56<legion>kiling x kills evrything else as well?
19:56<witte>legion: weird: is that good?
19:56<legion>witte nah still no higher resolution :/
19:56<themill>legion: kills everything that depends on X
19:56<witte>legion: no; only things that are running in the graphical environment
19:56<legion>ah I see
19:57<witte>legion: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ==> pastebin
19:57<legion>okay i will paste it
19:57<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
19:57<legion>btw when i tried to login on splash.. i couldnt login as root meaning the root passw is that normal?
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19:58<themill>legion: that's correct. You can't and shouldn't login as root.
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19:58<legion>okay I see
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20:03<witte>legion: why did you set it to 1400x900; the default for your monitor is 1680x1050
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20:04<witte>mmm: DPMS capabilities: Off; RGB/Color Display
20:04<legion>witte becaus thats the resolution i use in windows, the one i prefer :)
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20:06<themill>legion: you can always make the fonts a little larger ;)
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20:08<legion>themill, heheh true, i just hope i can get it to support reso from 1400 and up :/
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20:08<themill>yeah well... perhaps you should pastebin your xorg.conf again so we can see what it looks like after your changes.
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20:09<witte>legion: normally your monitor should comply with dmps, but it seems that the driver does not agree with that
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20:12<legion>but are you telling me this is normal? a syncmaster not being supported in linux?
20:12<witte>legion: no, i am telling, that the warning in your Xorg.0.log is strange
20:12<themill>legion: I've seen lots of crappy monitors with good logos on the front of them...
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20:13<legion>witte what warnings?
20:13<legion>themill sorry?
20:13<witte>DPMS capabilities: Off
20:13<witte>not really a warning
20:14<legion>whats dpms?
20:14<bighornram>Hi, I just did a testing netinst. Install puts me to a prompt, how do I install a gnome desktop environment?
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20:14<witte>but first i was thinking that dmps was for low level communication between monitor and pc, but it seems to be about energy savings
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20:14<themill>!install kde
20:14<dpkg>i heard install kde is In sarge/etch/lenny, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less.
20:14<themill>bighornram: ^^ aptitude install kde
20:15<witte>themill: lol
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20:15<bighornram>don't like kde it's a microsoft look alike!
20:15<legion>not really
20:15<witte>legion, that is your file
20:15<legion>witte yes
20:16<witte>read lines 507 to 5010
20:16<themill>!install gnome
20:16<dpkg>To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x>
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20:16<themill>bighornram: ^^ if you want a mac look alike that doesn't work....
20:16[~]themill hides
20:17<witte>!install windowmaker
20:17<themill>!lose witte
20:17<dpkg>witte: You Lose.
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20:17<legion>witte, i see what you mean now
20:17<bighornram>themill: don't want a mac either ;)
20:17<legion>should i try another driver?
20:18<witte>legion: the 1680x1050 should work...
20:18<witte>and you could try the nvidia one
20:18<dpkg>To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see If you've done it before, ask me about <nvidia one-liner> for a reminder.
20:18<legion>im no expert but if it doesnt work with a supported mode. why should it work with the higest possible resolution+
20:19<witte>the 1400x900 is not supported in the config line
20:19<witte>and 1680x1050 is there
20:19<legion>let me try it
20:19<witte>(II) NV(0): #0: hsize: 1680 vsize 1050 refresh: 60 vid: 179
20:19<themill>legion: is this an lcd?
20:19<bighornram>set up x
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20:20<themill>legion: they have a habit of dictating their own terms.
20:20<themill>bighornram: you need to /msg dpkg set up x
20:20<witte>!tell bighornram about set up x
20:20<legion>but how come it works great on windows?
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20:21<themill>witte: have you looked at that set up x factoid? it's pretty woody/sarge... :(
20:21<legion>restarting x now
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20:22<themill>!set up x
20:22<dpkg>from memory, set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer.
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20:22<legion>nope still the same
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20:23<legion>:/ heheh
20:23<witte>themill: mmm, that is not really up to date
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20:24<witte>themill: that is really, really old: you should probably update it
20:24<themill>yep, working on it.
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20:24<witte>legion: in that case, try to set up the nvidia drivers
20:25<witte>!nvidia one-liner
20:25<dpkg>well, nvidia one-liner is apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,g'` nvidia-settings nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if you're on amd64, also install nvidia-glx-ia32. Using sarge? Ask me about <nvidia_sarge>. Homegrown or kernel from testing/sid: <nvidia_post_etch>. If you're using a Geforce2 or older: <nvidia_legacy>. 1.0.9xxx drivers are in unstable.
20:25<Aleric>I'm trying to play an audio CD in my CD player (CD rom), but I don't hear anything :/
20:25<Aleric>It seems to be playing correctly... but no sound.
20:25<themill>set up x sarge is <reply>To set up X in sarge, "apt-get install x-window-system discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86".
20:25<Aleric>I can hear pcm (ie, internet radio) ... And I'm using skype ...
20:25<Aleric>What could it be?
20:25<themill>witte: ^^ ?
20:27<witte>themill: ok, that is fine, but that is for sarge, it would be nice if there is also an equivalent for etch (and maybe lenny)
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20:27<witte>Aleric: which software
20:27<themill>set up x is <reply>To set up X in etch or later, "aptitude install xserver-xorg". Generally, say "no" to the question about the framebuffer. Also ask me about <drxx> for reconfiguring the xserver.
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20:27<themill>witte: ^^ ?
20:27<Aleric>witte: Any, I tried several cd players :/
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20:27<witte>themill: that is much better
20:28<themill>!no, set up x is <reply>To set up X in etch or later, "aptitude install xserver-xorg". Generally, say "no" to the question about the framebuffer. Also ask me about <drxx> for reconfiguring the xserver.
20:28<dpkg>themill: okay
20:28<themill>!set up x sarge is <reply>To set up X in sarge, "apt-get install x-window-system discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86".
20:28<dpkg>themill: okay
20:28<themill>done ;)
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20:28<Aleric>Is there a pure ALSA based CD player application?
20:28<legion>E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-common
20:28<witte>Aleric: I usually just use xmms
20:28<witte>!tell legion about non-free
20:29<Aleric>witte: To play cd's in your cd rom??
20:29<witte>Aleric: yes, but you need xmms-cdread
20:30<Aleric>witte: Ok, I installed that - now how can I play the cd?
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20:31<legion>witte, non free does that mean no support or that they cost money?
20:31<witte>Aleric: open xmms, and add the file /dev/cdrom
20:31<witte>legion: non-free means that the software is evil
20:31<legion>aka no open source?
20:32<themill>legion: non-free means not Free-as-in-speech software. If it's in debian then it's free-as-in-beer though
20:32<witte>legion: there are some license issues
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20:32<Aleric>witte: Nothing happens if I do that... the play list stays empty
20:33<themill>legion: no source code, or not allowed to redistribute, or silly licence. Things like sun java, google earth, nvidia drivers, intel wifi firmware, etc
20:33<witte>Aleric: let me try it myself, it has been a while
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20:33<Aleric>Oh, I had to restart xmms
20:33<Aleric>It now works... distorted though ...
20:34<witte>Aleric: distorted?
20:34<themill>Aleric: pump up the volume BABY!
20:34<Aleric>witte: Yes, it sounds like my headphones are totally broken
20:35<Aleric>I see the distortion in the graphical thingy of xmms too
20:35<Aleric>No sliders in the mixer help that it seems :/
20:36<witte>Aleric: as themill said, make sure that you use the correct mixer settings
20:36<Aleric>No sliders in the mixer help-- if I turn any down, the sounds get softer, but it stays equally distorted.
20:36<witte>you can go to the non-linear part of your amplifier (distorted) while the volume is still not that hig
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20:37<witte>Aleric: I do not experience the same
20:37<witte>Aleric: other music goes fine?
20:38<themill>Aleric: what chipset is the sound card?
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20:41<Aleric>themill: dunno, does that matter? :) emu10k ?
20:42<themill>Aleric: I had a similar problem with a VIA sound card a few months back (hda-intel based) and upgrading to a newer kernel solved many sound problems.
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20:42<themill>Aleric: just a thought.... but hda-intel is a fast moving game
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20:43<Aleric>I played this very cd a few days ago :/
20:43<Aleric>I just inserted the CD, and SOME application automatically popped up and I could play it
20:43<Aleric>No idea why that stopped working
20:44<witte>Aleric: other WM
20:45<Aleric>Hmm I got it working
20:45<Aleric>I uninstalled xmms-cdread ... then used a different plugin from xmms
20:46<Aleric>It seems it "mounted" the cd under /media/cdrom and I had to open a file in that directory instead of /dev/cdrom
20:46<Aleric>(that way I can choose which tracks to open even - you see all the tracks on the cd there)
20:46<witte>Aleric: that is something else than xmms-cdread that is mounting the cd
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20:47<witte>but maybe the two do not really cooperate
20:47<Aleric>Yeah - well, I'm happy :)
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20:47[~]Aleric restarts skype
20:47<witte>I usually do not use cd, everything is on mp3 :-)
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20:51<witte>legion: did it work?
20:51<witte>or are you still stuck
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20:52<legion>still stuck dude. after nvidia i still cant change resolution, im trying to verify 3d accelation with glxinfo, but it says i dont have it
20:52<legion>i see the nvidia logo splash when i log in real quick, not sure if it matters
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20:52<witte>legion: first try to change resolution, afterwards attempt 3D
20:53<legion>yeah thats what i tried, but im just curious to see if its working at all
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20:53<legion>yup thats the one I used
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20:55<witte>ok, good luck, i'm going to bed
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20:55<legion>thanks for all your help so far witte, appreciated :) its nearly 2 am over here, i gotta catch some sleep.. but im gonna try with the resolutions tomorrow thanks again :)
20:55<legion>yeah m2 thanks dude :)
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21:25<themill>dpkg: g'night
21:25<dpkg>Sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite :)
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21:40<Chemist>hi guys
21:41<Chemist>just a quick question
21:41<Chemist>is debian available with gnome desktop manager?
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21:44<dondelelcaro>Chemist: yes
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22:05<bdreiss>hey can someone help me setup a couple things
22:05<bdreiss>i wanted to install pine
22:05<bdreiss>would i use apt-get
22:05<azeem>pine is not in Debia
22:05<bdreiss>oh what is?
22:05<bdreiss>like it?
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22:05<azeem>mutt, maybe
22:07<bdreiss>ok using mutt it says no /var/mail/breiss no mailbox is open how do i fix that?
22:07<azeem>get mail :)
22:08<bdreiss>it says /var/mail/root no such file or dir
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22:08<nowhereman>bdreiss: send a mail to root
22:09<nowhereman>or to breiss
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22:09<bdreiss>it didnt work
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22:14<gsimmons>bdreiss: pine binaries aren't available in Debian (due to licensing restrictions), only sources. You can build your own using "apt-get -b source pine", after adding non-free sources to your sources.list file.
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22:39<aguu>how do i use the nas0 interface?
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22:47<reflect>how do you install a rpm?
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22:48<dondelelcaro>reflect: you shouldn't, in general.
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22:49<dondelelcaro>reflect: use the .deb equivalent if it exists at all. If not, build a .deb from source. If there's no source, use alien to turn the rpm into a .deb.
22:50<reflect>what do i do once i turn it into a .deb?
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22:51<dondelelcaro>dpkg -i foo.deb; and pray
22:51<dpkg>package foo.deb; and pray is already installed
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