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00:06<dli>how do I stop esd daemon?
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00:26<dondelelcaro>dli: /etc/init.d/esd stop
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00:27<dli>dondelelcaro, I don't find esd under /etc/init.d/
00:27<dondelelcaro>dli: well, then killall esd; or whatever the actual daemon is called.
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00:28<dondelelcaro>(or possibly /etc/init.d/esound stop)
00:28<dli>dondelelcaro, no, no /etc/init.d/esound
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00:34<readon>i want to config a http proxy server which provides network accessibility through other http there any suggestion?
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02:13<Deselect>Hello, it seems after a dist-upgrade I no longer have any sound output. I have an m-audio audiophile 2496. I have tried a number of things and the help via Google results hasn't worked
02:13<Deselect>Any takers?
02:13<Deselect>It would be tremendously appreciated
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02:15<abeld>Hi! can grub in debian etch boot solaris?
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02:17<basava>are there any good tools for setting up my sources.list?
02:17<jm_>abeld: it can via chainloading, but you'll need another boot loader, ala DOS/Windows etc.
02:17<jm_>basava: installer sets it up for you
02:17<basava>jm, for all the non-free stuff
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02:18<abeld>jm_, ok, ill try that then.
02:18<basava>i need to get nvidia drivers and stuff
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02:19<jm_>basava: you can use your editor or tools like netselect-apt
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02:42<thaproducer>anyone avalible to help?
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03:16<basava>hey, i cant fine the nvdia packages, what repository do i need?
03:19<Gryfelhas>iust another silly question.... I'm using debian etch. When I use apt-get update, it syncronies the list of available packages. Does it also install the new packages from ?
03:20<azeem>Gryfelhas: no
03:20<azeem>Gryfelhas: apt-get upgrade does that
03:20<Gryfelhas>azeem: ok, thx
03:21<jm_>!tell basava -about nvidia
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03:22<basava>jm, that didnt work
03:23<jm_>hold on
03:23<basava>jm, ok
03:24<basava>jm, thanks
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03:25<basava>jm, that page tells me to install nvidia-kernel-common, but i dont have it available
03:25<jm_>man I gotta fix regexes to match also jm
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03:25<jm_>basava: did you add non-free to sources.list?
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03:26<basava>jm, i have
03:26<basava>deb etch main contrib non-free restricted
03:26<basava>deb-src etch main contrib non-free restricted
03:26<jm_>remove that "restricted" word and run apt update
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03:27<jm_>basava: is this an official debian mirror?
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03:27<basava>jm, dunno, i was just copysing sources from some forum
03:28<jm_>basava: you can use regular Debian mirrors for this
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03:29<basava>jm, what should i put in my sources.list?
03:29<basava>jm, taking off restricted didnt see, to do anyting
03:30<jm_>basava: go back to what you had previously and add "non-free contrib" at the end
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03:31<basava>jm, at the end of this?
03:31<basava>deb etch main
03:31<basava>deb-src etch main
03:32<basava>jm, or at the end of the other repository?
03:32<jm_>basava: at the end of line yes, I also recommend you comment out "" lines
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03:32<basava>jm, k
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03:34<basava>jm, cool thanks, got it now
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03:46<prem>hi all
03:47<prem>In my lenny..I tried removing totem and installed it once again..But now am getting an error " Couldn't load the 'main window' interface."
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03:48<prem>and no window is coming..any idea what am i missing..?
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03:50<kikinovak>Hi. I consider switching to Etch. Q: are there packages available for modules for things like wireless cards: ipw3945, rt61, rt2500 and the likes?
03:50<jm_>3945 and 2500 are there
03:50<gsimmons_>kikinovak: Yes for all but the rt61.
03:51<kikinovak>gsimmons_ so the rt61 I have to build from cvs myself?
03:51<kikinovak>ok, folks: thanks.
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04:38<vodmat>hello, I m looking for a way to find official package sources with apt or dpkg. Does anyone know how to do ?
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04:39<vodmat>eg: how to find with apt-cache where are located official sources of xfsprogs ?
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04:41<jm_>vodmat: what do you mean?
04:41<Tadas>Is there any irc bot create that could control my computer with CLI commands (shell imitation in chat)? I want to control my computer through irc...
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04:42<vodmat>Is there a way with the "package management system" to find where have been taken the official sources of a package ?
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04:42<jm_>it's easily doable with any bot/client that supports scripting
04:43<vodmat>I mean where the debian developper found the sources
04:43<Tadas>jm_: Maybe there is any prepared for that? I have no experience with bots...
04:43<Tadas>Also it should have some password protection so that anyone couldn't control my PC....
04:44<vodmat>So it is not directly feasable with apt ?
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04:46<jm_>that's typicalyl documented in copyright file
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04:50<vodmat>_jm: It s in the control.tar.gz, is it ?
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04:51<azeem>vodmat: no, it's in the data.tar.gz
04:51<azeem> /usr/share/doc/<package>/copyright
04:51<azeem>or the source .diff.gz
04:52<jm_>vodmat: you can also see it on
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04:52<vodmat>ok, thanks
04:52<WildOS>Hi, I can only access a certain folder as root. I've tried chown -hR user:user folder but nothing helps.. any suggestions?
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04:54<S3v3N>Hello. I have one simple question... how do I rename map in debian? I tried "mv <mapname> <newmapname> /home/user
04:54<S3v3N>and it doesn't work... how do i rename map?
04:55<jm_>you mean directory?
04:55<sep>S3v3N, man mv ?
04:56<S3v3N>yes directory..
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04:56<jm_>S3v3N: the syntax is mv oldname newname
04:56<S3v3N>oh ok, thanks
04:56<jm_>WildOS: and what happens if you cd into it? how about dirs above it?
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04:57<WildOS>jm_: I get to the folder right below the problem dir, but then I get permission denied
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04:59<jm_>WildOS: and permissions are?
04:59<jm_>i.e. ls -l output or stat output
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05:00<WildOS>jm_: drw-rw-rw-
05:01<jm_>WildOS: well then
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05:02<WildOS>jm_: chmod -drwx dir
05:02<jm_>WildOS: info coreutils -> File permissions -> Mode Structure, read the first "3." and effect on dirs
05:02<george>what's -d
05:03<jm_>- means remove
05:03<jm_>as opposed to + add
05:03<george>oh right, forgot about that for a minnit :)
05:03<george>but what's d?
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05:05<WildOS>george: typo
05:05<george>so really he wants chmod -rwx foo
05:06<k-man>how can i make sure ntp updates the time either at boot time, or update the hardware clock, so the time will be correct after rebooting?
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05:07<jm_>no he doesn't want -x on dirs
05:07<jm_>install ntpdate, edit /etc/default/ntpdate
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05:08<k-man>already have that installed
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05:23<drakode>como era para cambiar los permisos de todo el contenido de una carpeta???
05:23<drakode>chmod -r 777?
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05:27<Pepper>I've got a specific question about aspell: Is it possible to create a dictionary which accepts all words? How?
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05:31<WildOS>jm_: Thanks, chmod a+rX did the trick =)
05:32<jm_>WildOS: why 'a"?
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05:33<WildOS>jm_: I guess it's not really needed. It just specifies explicitly that the options are for all users (as described in the info pages)
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05:34<jm_>WildOS: yeah, everyone can write to it now
05:35<WildOS>yes, and that's what I wanted =)
05:36<WildOS>might as well run a single user system...
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05:40<Kebianizao>anyone could open this web: with user and pass demoacc demoacc and check wether it's working for him/her?
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05:42<JasonS>Kebianizao: works fine
05:42<Kebianizao>JasonS: really, even the map?
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05:43<Pepper>someone here with a bit aspell knowledge?
05:43<JasonS>Kebianizao: no but i suspect its something like flash? or java?
05:44<Kebianizao>JasonS: ah, ok, that's the problem
05:44<Kebianizao>no, it's not flash
05:44<Kebianizao>or java
05:44<Kebianizao>JasonS: what broswer are you on?
05:44<JasonS>Kebianizao: tried on galeon and iceweasel
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05:45<Kebianizao>could you try to change map th google map?
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05:51<Kebianizao>thanks JasonS BTW
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06:52<baruch>I have a problem with installing etch on a system with a SATA cdrom
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06:56<simonrvn>fews days ago saw 3 peoples in 6 hours, and that's just when i was watching the chan ;)
06:56<victor>how do i install java runtime enviroment on Debian, so Iceweasel can display certain pages normally?
06:56<simonrvn>in the other #d
06:57<simonrvn>display pages normally? if the page is using java to display the page, then it's borked ;)
06:58<jm_>victor: install the plugin
06:58<berto>if I purge a package, postrm is called with 'remove', with 'purge' or with both ?
06:58<victor>jm: it has to be installed manually
06:58<jm_>victor: no
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06:59<victor>aptitude install sun-java5-plugin?
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06:59<victor>Iceweasel says I need java runtime enviroment.
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06:59<victor>I'll try anway.
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07:00<jm_>yeah the plugin package depends on JRE
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07:02<victor>jm: I've done it.
07:03<victor>it doesn't work.
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07:03<victor>do i have to restart x?
07:03<jm_>victor: no, do you have java enabled in the browser?
07:04<berto>if I purge a package, postrm is called with 'remove', with 'purge' or with both ?
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07:05<victor>jm: java script allowed.
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07:06<jm_>javascript isn't java
07:06<victor>java enabled.
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07:06<victor>the default setting of iceweasel.
07:06<jm_>victor: does about:plugins show it?
07:07<jm_>hmm maybe that page doesn't answer your question, there's anothe rone
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07:07<victor>jm: nope.
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07:09<victor>jm: sorry, bash didn't install it successfully.
07:09<victor>Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java5-plugin"
07:10<victor>bash said.
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07:10<jm_>victor: add non-free/contrib to sources.list
07:11<jm_>berto: there's another page, but I'm struggling to find it
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07:11<victor>jm: how?
07:11<jm_>victor: with an editor?
07:11<berto>it seems that both are called, thanks
07:11<victor>jm: vi?
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07:12<jm_>victor: sure, any editor will do
07:12<victor>jm: the location of sources.list?
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07:12<jm_>victor: man sources.list
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07:17<victor>jm: so I should add non-free/contrib to the end of every line?
07:17<baruch>We avoided the sata cdrom with a usb cdrom which works
07:17<baruch>Now we are stuck on a disk controller
07:17<jm_>victor: yeah
07:17<jm_>baruch: it doesn't detect the disk? chipset?
07:18<baruch>jm_ not sure about the chipset, the device ids for ide are 2921 and 2926
07:18<jm_>baruch: lspci will ell you
07:18<baruch>The name is unknown, I can get only the device ids
07:19<jm_>can you give the full number: xxxx:yyyy
07:19<baruch>I'll look
07:20<baruch>jm_ both with :7360
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07:20<jm_>baruch: and the first number is 2921?
07:20<baruch>There are two ide devices, one is 2921 and one is 2926
07:21<jm_>yes but where is 2921, first or second place?
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07:23<baruch>jm_ sorry, the numbers are 8086:2921 and 8086:2926
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07:24<jm_>baruch: aha Intel, are you using 2.6.18 kernel?
07:24<baruch>yes, the default of the installer
07:25<jm_>right, you need at least 2.6.21 kernel
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07:25<baruch>Is there a disk with a newer kernel to install from?
07:25<victor>jm: can't do.
07:25<jm_>then SATA CDROM should work too
07:25<dpkg>For etch (or sarge) with up-to-date kernels, see
07:25<victor>jm: still not working.
07:25<jm_>there's 2.6.23 one
07:25<jm_>victor: run apt update first
07:26<victor>bash: apt: command not found
07:26<[Jinx]>A quick question, and my apologies up front if it's easily found, is it possible to block apt-get from installing particular packages; maybe even by wildcard?
07:26<victor>jm: bash: apt: command not found
07:26<baruch>jm_ thanks, will download iso and test
07:26<jm_>victor: apt=apt-get/aptitude, whichever you are using normally
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07:26<jm_>[Jinx]: you could pin it I suppose
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07:27<[Jinx]>pin it? I'm not too good with debian sadly - could you elaborate? :)
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07:28<jm_>[Jinx]: man apt_preferences
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07:33<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
07:33<jm_>just go there and follow instructions
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07:36<oxynet>i´m gotting some problem to compiling kernel
07:37<oxynet>i downloaded the kernel from, umpack into /usr/src, make the link, and when i try to use make menuconfig, i got many errors
07:37<victor>jm: I guess I have pasted it here: go and check out, please.
07:37<jm_>!tell oxynet about menuconfig
07:38<oxynet>the first line is about some files.h is missing
07:38<jm_>!b-e oxynet
07:38<dpkg>oxynet: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
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07:38<jm_>victor: chnage "non-free/contrib" to "non-free contrib"
07:39<oxynet>thanks a lot
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07:41<plm156>on a fresh install of sid amd64 from businesscars iso i get this , apt-get -f install tries to fetch things like libc6_2.6.1-6_i386.deb while i have libc6_2.6.1-6_amd64.deb
07:42<azeem>plm156: what do you mean with "i have"?
07:42<victor>jm: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
07:42<jm_>victor: did you run apt update?
07:42<plm156>azeem, on /var/cache/apt/archives/
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07:43<azeem>plm156: pastebin the output of "dpkg-architecture"
07:43<victor>jm: see.
07:43<victor>jm: works fine.
07:43<victor>jm: thank you.
07:43<plm156>azeem, i do not have that installed , its a fresh system
07:44<plm156>azeem, anything else ?
07:44<azeem>plm156: dpkg --print-architecture
07:45<azeem>plm156: and "apt-cache show libc6 | grep Arch"?
07:46<plm156>azeem, Architecture : i386
07:46<plm156>oh god...
07:46<azeem>plm156: well, lesson learnt
07:46<azeem>don't install sid directly
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07:46<azeem>install testing, and dist-upgrade
07:46<azeem>plm156: though I think I read about this bug before, not sure
07:46<plm156>you got me...
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07:47<azeem>plm156: if you got enough bandwidth, use the netinst, rather
07:47<azeem>and/or try to google for that issue
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07:59<plm156>azeem, found this , but it cannont find the distribution "unstable(amd64)" into the archive
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08:00<azeem>plm156: did you run apt-get update
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08:00<plm156>azeem, apt-get update gives that
08:00<azeem>no idea then
08:00<plm156>who dares loses...
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08:10<victor>azeem: try this with your Iceweasel:
08:11<victor>and try to watch the tv programs listed.
08:11<victor>and you will see that totem is not powerful enough.
08:11<azeem>victor: eh?
08:12<victor>azeem: i mean I can't watch the programs on the site.
08:12<azeem>why do you tell me?
08:13<victor>azeem: well, i am asking you for some help.
08:13<azeem>why do you think I know about this?
08:13<azeem>in general, ask the channel, not individuals
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08:13<victor>try this with your Iceweasel:
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08:14<victor>and try to watch the tv programs listed. and you will see that totem is not powerful enough.
08:15<petemc>powerful wouldnt be the right word
08:15<petemc>its more likely a codec issue
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08:16<victor>so where can I get the codecs?
08:16<victor>like asf?
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08:18<jeremiah>Victor, you might want to find out what kind of files those video files are, i.e. which codec they use
08:19<jeremiah>Then use google to find the appropriate package for debian to use those codecs.
08:19<petemc>it needs an activex plugin
08:19<jeremiah>There is a lot of documentation for that sort of thing online
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08:19<jeremiah>activex? Oh well, you might be SOL.
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08:31<lamef>03:01:10 pm) <lamef> have some questions ot casper
08:31<lamef>(03:01:17 pm) <lamef> anyone alive?
08:31<lamef>(03:02:23 pm) <lamef> here it is: Have my xorg.conf and other files replaced,
08:31<lamef>(03:02:57 pm) <lamef> but cant find from where or how are they replaces, edit
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08:32<lamef>so anyone can help me?
08:32<petemc>your "question" doesnt make a whole lot of sense
08:33<azeem>14:19 < lamef> here it is: Have my xorg.conf and other files replaced, /cow shows them
08:33<azeem>14:19 < lamef> but cant find from where or how are they replaces, edit some /usr/share/initramfs/scripts
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08:33<azeem>lamef: next time, make sure you lines don't get cropped at 80 chars od so
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08:35<lucas_amorim>how do I convert ogg to mp3?
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08:43<baruch>jm_ seems like the modified isos work, thanks!
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08:45<lamef>so falks
08:45<lamef>folks :-p
08:46<lucas_amorim> how do I convert ogg to mp3?
08:46<lamef>tell me, is there a way i can do stop the /etc/X11/xorg.conf be replaces
08:46<lamef>by my how live debian distribution?
08:47<jm_>wsoundconverter - convert sound files to other formats
08:47<jm_>without the leading 'w'
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08:51<edgar>debian espa;ol!!!!!!!!!
08:51<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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08:56<lucas_amorim>jm_: Thank you! I will try it, I was trying sox, but it was not working
08:56<jm_>lucas_amorim: well you don't need sox, ogg -> wav -> mp3 is generic way
08:56<lucas_amorim>I did not understand
08:57<lucas_amorim>I tried: sox file.ogg file.mp3
08:57<jm_>oggdec file.ogg - | lame ...
08:58<lucas_amorim>It said: sox soxio: Failed reading file.ogg : unknown file type `auto'
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09:02<lucas_amorim>jm_: ok I am running soundconverter via the gnome gui
09:02<lucas_amorim>it says mp3 encoder is not available
09:02<lucas_amorim>then points this page:
09:03<lucas_amorim>which tells me to install gstreamer0.10-lame, which is already installed!
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09:03<lucas_amorim>: s
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09:04<jm_>try install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
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09:05<lucas_amorim>why is it called bad?
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09:06<jm_>no idea, maybe also look on debian-multimedia page
09:07<lucas_amorim>jm_: didn't work
09:07<schildkroet>can anyone tell me where/how to change an Etch
09:07<lucas_amorim>any other idea?
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09:07<jm_>lucas_amorim: yeah see abive, or simply use oggdec as mentioned above
09:07<schildkroet>'s domain name?
09:08<lucas_amorim>jm_: you said "oggdec file.ogg - | lame" will it convert to mp3?
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09:11<jm_>lucas_amorim: yes
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09:11<lamef>come on nooone changes his live distro?
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09:13<azeem>lamef: try to ask a specific, coherent question
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09:13<azeem>lamef: you didn't even mention yet that you were talking about a live cd
09:13<lucas_amorim>jm_: are you sure? it made a wav file
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09:15<lucas_amorim>jm_: how do I convert wav to mp3?
09:15<lamef>azeem, I have Live CD, trying to remaster it so can have some icons on the screen , but when i start it the xorg.conf is replaced?
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09:16<jm_>lucas_amorim: you don't have to: oggdec -o - file.ogg | lame > file.mp3
09:16<jm_>lamef: is this about debian live?
09:16<lamef>jm_, yep
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09:17<jm_>lamef: there's a special channel for that, ask there
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09:20<lucas_amorim>jm_: using the above command it makes an mp3 file with 0 lenth
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09:22<jm_>lucas_amorim: do you have lame installed?
09:23<jm_>lucas_amorim: uhm yeah I see the error, should be lame - > file.mp3
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09:23<lucas_amorim>which package exactely?
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09:23<lucas_amorim>I have package lame installed
09:24<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
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09:26<jm_>lucas_amorim: yeah see above "lame - > file.mp3"
09:27<lucas_amorim>ok, I got it now
09:27<lucas_amorim>took long, hehe
09:27<lucas_amorim>thank you
09:29<jm_>yeah should verify what I type with man pages
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09:32<lucas_amorim>jm_: hey, do you know a way of doing it for the whole directory at once?
09:32<jm_>lucas_amorim: sure
09:32<lucas_amorim>I would have to convert everything to wav first?
09:33<jm_>for a in *.ogg; do oggdec -o - "$a" | lame - > "$a.mp3"; done
09:33<jm_>you'll need to do some renaming later, but that's trivial with prename or mmv or similar
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09:33<lucas_amorim>interesting, i did not know I could right algorithms in the terminal
09:33<jm_>better test it in some test dir first
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09:52<EmleyMoor>Can someone please tell me what I've missed? I have followed the howto at but I get a failyre to mount...
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09:53<EmleyMoor>No more obvious message than "failed to mount"
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09:53<EmleyMoor>Do I need to do anything to specify the sharename anywhere in the confs or is that handled automatically?
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09:54<petemc>you can mount the shares "normally" ?
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09:55<petemc>did you read the comments at the bottom of that how to?
09:55<EmleyMoor>I believe the instructions say the share should appear at /cifs/servername/sharename, but that isn't happening
09:56<EmleyMoor>Ah - hadn't spotted that
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09:59<EmleyMoor>Ah, great :-)
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10:01<EmleyMoor>Excellent - now got all remote filesystems automounting :-)
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10:13<Guest1242>Is debian accepting GPL3v licensed programs in "stable/main/" ?
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10:17<JshWright>have some questions about using simple-cdd, anyone have a minute?
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10:22<blq>What could it be caused by that I am able to see the sound output at the arts controll tool, have double checked the cables and amplifier power, have double checked the alsamixers and still be unable to hear any sound? (I'm using a NForce2 Soundstorm onboard soundcard)
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10:23<Hosticus>Anyone ?
10:23<Guest1242>Hi Hosticus
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10:24<Hosticus>O hallo 1242
10:24<Hosticus>I'm new around here :-)
10:24<Guest1242>Seems to be more questions than answers :-)
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10:26<Hosticus>Is there an other program then HTTRack for website-rip ?
10:26<petemc>wgets mirror option
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10:27<petemc>if i read you correctly..
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10:27<Hosticus>wgets ?
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10:28<JshWright>I'd like to include a slightly customized version of gdm in a simple-cdd build, how do I ensure it's grabbing my version, not the official version?
10:28<petemc>wget, in the possesive sense
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10:29<Hosticus>euhm ... for debian ?
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10:29<petemc>Hosticus: can you clarify what website-rip means?
10:30<Hosticus>A program that rips websites ...
10:30<padski>wget -m
10:30<Hosticus>like ofline browsing .?.
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10:31<Hosticus>I'm going to try that ...
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10:31<Hosticus>Thanks :-)
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10:32<joxzank>anyone can help me
10:32<joxzank>i got error when i connected server via ftp
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10:33<joxzank>error like this "421 No Transfer Timeout (300 seconds): closing control connection"
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10:34<JshWright>does it happen 300 seconds after you've connected?
10:34<joxzank>not yet
10:34<joxzank>i just connect for about 10 second
10:36<joxzank>when i am try to send file that server just get size 0
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10:36<joxzank>what happens
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11:04<chantanito>hi, i have some problem...
11:04<qbit>i have 3 :D
11:04<chantanito>i have 2 pc, both connected to internet via WLAN...
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11:05<chantanito>but they're connected via LAN...
11:05<chantanito>i just need them to comunicate via LAN instead of WLAN...
11:06<chantanito>how can i do that? is that possible?
11:06<qbit>unplug the wireless card :D
11:08<chantanito>any other suggestion?
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11:13<REFERI>Привет всем
11:13<dpkg>ru is, like, Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
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11:14<REFERI>So I should use Server and #debian-russian channel ?
11:14<JasonS>REFERI: yes
11:14<dpkg>well, ru is Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
11:14<JasonS>although your english seems to be quite good
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11:19<blq>What could it be caused by that I am able to see the sound output at the arts controll tool, have double checked the cables and amplifier power, have double checked the alsamixers and still be unable to hear any sound? (I'm using a NForce2 Soundstorm onboard soundcard) I've gathered some information here:
11:19<petemc>stereo questions!
11:20<blq>I'm asking around since about a week
11:20<blq>at least noone could help me yet
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11:24<cahoot>got you mojo working?
11:24<qbit>i got my mojo working
11:25<JasonS>got my mojo workin but it just aint workin on you....
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11:27<vonnis>hey i installed madwifi yesterday.
11:27<Aaron_>Can i get Debian like Ubuntu, from Shipit etc?
11:27<vonnis>i thought everything was right but how can i check if it works?
11:28<petemc>Aaron_: you can download it, you'll have to pay for someone to post it to you
11:28<qbit>woops :P
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11:30<vonnis>how can i look for wireless networks whit debian?
11:30<petemc>iwlist, network manager
11:31<cahoot>vonnis: try iwlist scan
11:31<vonnis>in the konsole?
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11:32<vonnis>iwlist says command not found
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11:34<vonnis>ow i can see it in the knetwork manager
11:34<vonnis>how do i know if my madwifi driver works?
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11:34<vonnis>if i can see wireless networks does that mean my driver works?
11:34<Aaron_>petemc, but i dont have cd burner xD
11:35<petemc>there are other ways to install
11:35<petemc>vonnis: install wireless-tools , /msg dpkg search
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11:38<vonnis>install wireless tools?
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11:39<vonnis>like what
11:39<vonnis>dpkg doesnt answer
11:39<streuner>dpkg, sleeping?
11:39<dpkg>somebody said sleeping was the magical thing geeks have forgotten how to do
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11:41<vonnis>are there any geeks out here?
11:41<vonnis>im prod to be one
11:43<petemc>geeks in a linux irc channel?
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11:43[~]JasonS dont bite no heads off chickens, so he's not a geek
11:43<spal>hi! I did an "aptitude update" and then an "aptiude dist-upgrade" from Etch to Lenny. Now, when I do "aptitude install pidgin", it selects no package:- 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 52 not upgraded. - I can't find "pidgin" in the aptitude user interface too. what may be the problem?
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11:45<petemc>spal: what does "apt-cache policy pidgin" say ?
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11:46<vonnis>does atheros support rfmon?
11:47<spal>pidgin:; Installed: 2.2.2-1; Candidate: 2.2.2-1; Version table:; *** 2.2.2-1 0; 500 lenny/main Packages; 100 /var/lib/
11:47<spal>petemc: ^^^
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11:48<manphiz>spal: you've already installed pidgin through dist-upgrade since gaim is a meta package depending on pidgin in lenny and later
11:48<spal>petemc: well, it is installed. too lame not to have checked properly. thanks!
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12:00<posix_>does 'dpkg --list' have a flag for controlling which fields get displayed?
12:00<petemc>people just use grep ^ii
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12:01<posix_>seems the description text gets cut off..
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12:06<posix_>ah ya
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12:07<oxynet>i got a problem when i compile my kernel
12:08<oxynet>when i reboot i got a kernel panic
12:08<oxynet>Kernel panic = not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
12:08<oxynet>but on filesystem i marked the option about ext2, ext3 and reiserfs
12:08<oxynet>what could be?
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12:19<witte>oxynet: you probably forgot scsi, ide, or the scsi or ide controller module
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12:27<oxynet>witte: yes, i think this, i have a sata hd, i need to use scsi support??
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12:30<oxynet>how can i see what module my sata controller are using to i use this module when compine kernel??
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12:30<maxamillion>oxynet: boot a knoppix cd and check what module its using
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12:31<zarathu>omg haaaaaaaay
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12:32<oxynet>maxamillion, i don´t have knoppix cd, i can´t find this on Debian?
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12:35<reflect>how do I enable apache to have write access?
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12:39<maxamillion>oxynet: well, if you can't mount the hard drive because you are missine a module ... i would imagine that if you google searched a bit with the model of the hard drive then you could find the correct module, but i just normally used knoppix cds because its easier
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12:41<oxynet>hmm, i have two options on grub, one of the installed version, that is working ok, and the version that i compiled the kernel, that isn´t working
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12:42<peter__>I have a new debian VPS and I want to run the tracd server proxied behind apache. I have it all working but want to start the tracd server as www-data user on boot (not root user) for security. How do I start the tracd server with a non-root user?
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12:49<EmleyMoor>Something bad has happened to my music collection in Amarok - it's not completing and saying "TagLib" might be broken - any idea what I need to check?
12:49<EmleyMoor>Is it possible for the collection to be too big?
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12:52<EmleyMoor>Are there any realistic competitors to Amarok?
12:52<qbit>sigh.... i can't find one
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12:57<qbit>maybe exaile
12:57<EmleyMoor>I will maybe look at it if I can't fix amarok
12:57[~]EmleyMoor has a lovely collection - not quite finished
12:58<qbit>me too :)
12:58[~]EmleyMoor has started amarok without a config to see if it can be fixed
12:59<EmleyMoor>It's as if I've hit a limit in amarok (or maybe its database)
12:59<qbit>how big is your collection?
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12:59<EmleyMoor>If it doesn't work straight off I might try a different database
12:59<EmleyMoor>qbit: In bytes or tracks?
12:59<qbit>gigs ?
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13:00<EmleyMoor>About 14 so far
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13:00<qbit>hmm.. shouldn't be a size issue.. i have about 30G and no problems
13:01<EmleyMoor>Right - well, a collection scan gives the following:
13:02<EmleyMoor>Sorry, the Collection Scan was aborted, since too many problems were encountered.
13:02<qbit>huh.. maybe strange characters in file names?
13:02<qbit>maybe files it can't read?
13:02<EmleyMoor>Advice: A common source for this problem is a broken 'TagLib' package on your computer. Replacing this packagage may help fixing the issue.
13:02<EmleyMoor>Then there's a list of files which caused problem
13:03<EmleyMoor>All but two of them have a strange character in - will pastebin if my next investigation shows nothing
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13:05<EmleyMoor>In one case it's one track of 20 in the folder that has failed
13:05<EmleyMoor>Actually, it's only mentioned four files, but one of them lots of times
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13:06<Hosticus>Hallo again ...
13:06<qbit>what kinda file is it ?
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13:07<Hosticus>I've got problems with sharing files with Debian Linux ...
13:08<EmleyMoor>I have renamed it to get an awkward character out and will see what happens
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13:08<EmleyMoor>One of the files it's objecting to has been fine on there for weeks
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13:09<EmleyMoor>Hmmm... renaming that one file seems to have done well
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13:12<george>Hosticus:/msg dpkg ask ; /msg dpkg sicco
13:13<george>(maybe you could tell what the problem is...)
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13:14<oxynet>somebody can help me about an problem with kernel compilation, i am gotting kernel panic
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13:14<Hosticus>I kan't autorise Windows to enter my shared files ...
13:15<Hosticus>With samba ...
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13:15<petemc>Hosticus: look into smbpasswd
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13:15<Hosticus>in etc ?
13:15<george>oxynet: pastebin the entire panic message
13:16<petemc>no, read its man page or google for how to use it
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13:19<alexou>hello what is the command to see what is my screen Hz ?
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13:20<oxynet>george, the message is this
13:20<oxynet>VFS: Cannot open root devie "sda3" or unknown-block(0,0)
13:20<oxynet>Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions;
13:20<oxynet>Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
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13:20<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: or or or for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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13:20<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: or or or for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
13:20<george>(I did say pastebin)
13:21<george>but donm't take that as authoritative :)
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13:21<george>it's good you have the message. you will be able to use it to get help from wherever
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13:23<george>but what I read of the panic shows it can't mount /
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13:23<oxynet>george: try this
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13:24<george>so the old kernel works in that regard?
13:25<george>ok, and did you use make-kpkg?
13:25<george>and fed it --initrd?
13:26<oxynet>the first time no, but the second yes
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13:27<oxynet>george: make-kpkg --initrd --revision=1 --append-to-version=-gccarvalho kernel-image
13:27<oxynet>this was the command that i use
13:27<george>one thing it could be is the kernel doesn't have builtin support for initrd and/or the filesystem type initrds use
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13:28<oxynet>and how can i verify this, on the make menuconfig, the reiserfs is marked
13:28<george>the other thing that could be wrong is one of the drivers needed to mount / is missing
13:29<george>reiser is your root fs?
13:30<mtnman>reiser will kill your fs
13:31<george>what kind of disk is your sde?
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13:31<oxynet>george: sata by nvidia controller
13:32<george>and unfortunately mtnman's is a pun that is actually true (well reiser3 anyway)
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13:32<george>ok, do you have those drivers in the kernel?
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13:32<mtnman>george i think it was more true than funny, unfortunately
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13:33<george>mtnman: true, and just because something is a pun doesn't make it funny
13:33<george>some puns are awful
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13:33<oxynet>reiserfs is not a good filesystem?
13:34<george>there have been horror stories about it
13:35<george>"I dunno what I did... I don't think I did anything... but boom, my whole fs is gone!"
13:35<oxynet>what is the best to use on a laptop?
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13:37[~]mtnman has never had a problem with ext(3)
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13:38<george>xfs is not good if you don't have UPS backup
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13:40<george>what you might want to do soon is back up each of your partitions
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13:43<george>if you do the partitions separately then you could replace the / with a different partition type
13:44<george>or you just have one partition?
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13:48<oxynet>george, no i have one partition only, but i can separate
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13:48<george>you don't need to... but at the same time it's sometimes nice to have a separate /home
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13:49<george>but your present case degenerates to just doing one backup
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13:49<oxynet>ok, so i will continue with only one partition, what is the best Fs to use??
13:50<george>ext3 probsably
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13:51<oxynet>ok, so i will reinstall mais OS with ext3
13:51<Aaron_>xfs is very good
13:51<george>xfs is good if you have a UPS
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13:55<oxynet>george, i´m trying to install the last kernel version, this version is good or not?
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13:58<S3v3N>Hello guys. How do I delete apache from my computer. apt-get delete apache or?
13:58<JasonS>S3v3N: apt-get remove
13:58<S3v3N>but it will delete also all folders about apache and stuff which was installed?
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13:59<george>S3v3N: if you purge it will
13:59<S3v3N>purge, what do you mean?
13:59<george>but it won't touch home dirs
13:59<george>man dpkg to see what purge means, or man apt-get
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14:00<george>see it's kinda a long story
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14:00<george>which if I told you now would interfere with me going for coffee :)
14:01<noname001>dpkg --purge apache
14:02<S3v3N>now it's totaly removed?
14:02<george>and you should find out what it means to purge
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14:03<valdyn>xfs is true shit if you dont have a UPS
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14:03<valdyn>( or just the same if your system happens to crash occasionally
14:04<valdyn>S3v3N: no
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14:11<iamtravis>hello, i tried to remove the cups package cause i have no printer, and the debian gnome update is saying there's cups updates, any idea how to fix that?
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14:19<domingo>hay alguien?
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14:19<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
14:19<oxynet>george, ok, i reinstall the notebook, now i will try to recompile the kernel
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14:20<george>oxynet: but wait, why recoimpile?
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14:20<S3v3N>I have problem with installing apache2 with php support. I'm using this tutorial ( ) and I don't understand where are this lines to uncomment LoadModule in apache2.conf ? And also do I need to add DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.php index.xhtml in apache2.conf or I need to uncomment them?... Please help!
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14:21<S3v3N>Because when I search for DirectoryIndex... I cannot find it in apache2.conf
14:22<oxynet>george, because i´m having problem with my wireless card
14:22<george>ok what problem?
14:22<oxynet>and with this kernel i saw that there is driver for the card
14:22<george>what kernel?
14:22<oxynet>hmm, using ndiswrapper i can install the driver, but when i use iwconfig don´t appear any wireless network
14:22<oxynet>the last one
14:23<george>that's the only one that has a driver?
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14:23<oxynet>hmm, good question
14:23<oxynet>i don´t know
14:24<oxynet>i know that the kernel that comes with debian netinst don´t have the driver
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14:25<george>which kernel is that?
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14:25<george>what is your arch?
14:25<kbreheny>can anyone help me with a video+compiz problem?
14:26<kbreheny>newbie btw
14:26<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
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14:28<kbreheny>ok - I am running debian "lenny" on a HP Compaq NC6400 using the Intel Graphics drivers - compiz-fusion is working perfectly except when i try to open a video player - including xine, gxine and totem - video players within web browsers work fine - has anyone else had this issue? I am a newbie
14:28<oxynet>george, it´s a turion x2
14:29<george>an amd64?
14:30<george>what arch is the netinstall?
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14:40<oxynet>george, yes its amd64, the netinstall is i386
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14:45<george>that should work better... drivers
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14:46<george>err especially with bin-only drvrs
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14:47<kevinl>hello, i am running postfix on my server. It is configured well to accept email for my users.. but I need to set up so that my users can use the server as outgoing relay. They will all have valid accounts in /etc/passwd . I cannot figure out how to make it so relaying is allowed with authentication. Help please?
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14:51<george>probably that's not the standard configuration shipped with the debian package... therefore it's entirely a postfix issue... I'd suggest you'd get closer help if you find more specific resources
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14:51<S3v3N>Hello people. I have installed apache2 on my debian 4.0 r1. Now I'm asking you what directory I need to create on my unix user to have access? http://IP/~user/ <- on apache it was public_html, what's on apache2 if that is possible?
14:52<petemc>S3v3N: should still work, tried it?
14:52<S3v3N>petemc: it doesn't I tried.
14:52<petemc>hmm, i thought it did..
14:52<george>have you replaced the apache2 config file?
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14:53<S3v3N>petemc: I'm looking on google UserDir on apache2 but nothing good..
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14:53<S3v3N>george: Why replace it?
14:53<petemc>its in apache2.conf here..
14:53<george>I'm just asking if you did, or if you altered it in any way
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14:53<S3v3N>george: No I didn't copy the apache2.conf
14:54<S3v3N>But I think I found something good... here is the link for that tutorial I'll try it out:
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14:56<S3v3N>Yes it works. Google my friend ;-)
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14:56<george>what was the solution
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14:58<S3v3N>george: I copied files from /etc/apache2/mods-available (userdir.load userdir.conf) to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled then restarted apache2 and created "public_html" folder on my unix user.
14:58<george>ok thanks
14:58<petemc>S3v3N: you could have used a2enmod userdir
14:58<S3v3N>george: And way to this is http://serverip/~user/
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14:59<S3v3N>petemc: Never heard for that, what is that for, same thing?
14:59<george>as in earlier apache
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14:59<petemc>S3v3N: it just creates symlinks tho, rather than copying the files
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15:14<jacopo>fatal I0 error 104 (connection reset by peer)
15:14<jacopo>neti--viva il deamicis  says:
15:14<jacopo>on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
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15:16<jacopo>ciao a tutti allì' accensione il pc mi da sto problema se provo a fare startx: "fatal 10 error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 unknown processed) with 0 events remaining
15:16<jacopo>e non parte niente
15:17<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete (non C'è anche il canale #linux-it là.
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15:31<N1ghtCrawler>Hello, can i install irssi for sid/sarge on etch?
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15:31<petemc>N1ghtCrawler: have you looked at
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15:32<muep_>N1ghtCrawler: why do you want to do that?
15:32<photis00>how do i get frostwire to work on UBUNTU?
15:32<N1ghtCrawler>petemc no, will do that,,
15:33<N1ghtCrawler>muep_ becaus it's tje latest version :)
15:33<petemc>is there much development happening with irssi?
15:33<petemc>time certainly isnt working on it, is he?
15:34<N1ghtCrawler>Irssi 0.8.12 released
15:34<N1ghtCrawler>Posted by Geert on October 6th 2007.
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15:36<N1ghtCrawler>well, trail en error
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15:46<N1ghtCrawler>I can report that it works wonderfully smooth to install irssi 0.8.12 on debain etch
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16:13<S3v3N>What can I do?...
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16:14<Eulex>S3v3N, stare and marvel at your fully working debian system?
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16:15<Eulex>S3v3N, there's nothing wrong. everything went right when installing the kernel.
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16:15<S3v3N>Eulex: I think not if he set up back old one?
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16:16<S3v3N>Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch4) ... then after problem he set up Setting up linux-image-2.6-686 (2.6.18+6etch2) ...
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16:16<Eulex>S3v3N, linux-image-2.6-686 is a metapackage installing the newest available 2.6-686 kernel.
16:17<Eulex>*newest available for your release of debian.
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16:17<S3v3N>Eulex: oh ok thanks for information.
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16:17<lucas_amorim>hello. I am trying to add items to the gnome menu. I put the path to an executable file (like ~/games/et) but it does not work. If i just ./games/et it works
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16:18<Eulex>lucas_amorim, I doubt the gnome menu is a shell. thus it doesn't expand ~.
16:18<lucas_amorim>I don't understand, because I looked at the other existent menus item and they use the same syntax, and that works
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16:18<lucas_amorim>Eulex: That was just an example, actually I am using the complete path
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16:19<Eulex>lucas_amorim, oh. what exactly is not working then?
16:19<lucas_amorim>when I click teh item, nothing happens
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16:19<lucas_amorim>while running that same file on the terminal or by clicking at it on nautilus, works
16:20<Eulex>does the program perhaps need a specific working directory set?
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16:21<Eulex>and does it work if you put in the full path (that you put into the .desktop file) into a terminal and run it?
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16:25<lucas_amorim>Eulex: if i put /home/lucas/game/Enemy-Territory/et.x86 it does not work. But, if i open a terminal and say: ./home/lucas/game/Enemy-Territory/et.x86 it works
16:26<mjm>need some help with a broken jail setup: all the libs are correct, /etc/* files are all in place and correct but I still caon connect. ssh out of the jail tells me "you don't exist, go away" ssh in from outside says "unknown userid <UID>
16:26<lucas_amorim>I don't understand :p
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16:31<stroyan>lucas_amorim: It seems like the path isn't the issue, but starting from a terminal. Looking at it looks like it really wants to start a terminal emulator. It is possible that you don't have any of the terminal emulators that the startup script is looking for. Perhaps 'apt-get install xterm' would help.
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16:32<jthomas_>Is this jail based on Busybox, mjm?
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16:36<v4mpire>hey guys how do i remove a symlink and get winamp in wine to read the correct place for the arial.ttf font which is located @ /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arialbd.ttf
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16:37<v4mpire>i fogot to remove the new line boxes ¬_¬
16:37<ed2ef>hi, im having problem to login into my passwordless user with "su" on X (in the console, the "su user" works fine), can anyone help me?Im on a debian lenny i686, and already remove the "x" on /etc/passwd(once again, in the console the command "su user" works fine, but in a terminal for X he keep asking the password), thnx
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16:51<tubaman>Anybody know how to add net driver during a text only install from a CD. It gives me a chance to access a floppy but I have no floppy? Thanks in advance..
16:52<elke>hi! How can I list all installed games? Like ... the packages with a game tag.
16:52<elke>are they all in the games section of aptitude?
16:52<tubaman>I think dpkg -l lists installed packages
16:53<elke>yep, but it does not sort/select by tags.
16:53<elke>or does it?
16:53<tubaman>try dselect although I can really navigate with it very well
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16:53<tubaman>I mean I cannot
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16:53<Eulex>elke, debtags, I'd assume
16:54<chaoticmass>On a Debian Etch webserver: Whenevr I "ls /etc" or "nano /etc/passwd" or try to run "top" my terminal becomes unresponsive and I have to close the session and log back in. This happens every time. The system seems to be working fine otherwise.
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16:54<chapajai>I am looking for help for kaffeine and SkyStar2 anyone use this software?
16:55<pos>chapajai: yes I have used skystar2 and kaffeine..
16:55<chaoticmass>Hmm, even doing "ps aux" to list whats running caused my terminal to lock up. It listed about 10 things then hung.
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16:55<petemc>chaoticmass: check /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages and dmesg
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16:57<george>chapajai: if you were to ask a question which is specific and informative about what help you need you'll get better responses than "yes"
16:57<chaoticmass>petemc : just tried each of those things, cant read them because it'll lock up. This is starting to look like a hardware problem.
16:57<petemc>chaoticmass: that does make it very hard to troubleshoot
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16:57<petemc>chaoticmass: how are you connecting to the box?
16:58<petemc>when you ran top, did you notice the load?
16:58<v4mpire>hey guys how do i remove a symlink and get winamp in wine to read the correct place for the arial.ttf font which is located @ /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf
16:58<lucas_amorim>hello. I have some doubts about executable files on nautilus. Some executable files I click are executed directly, but for some of them, nautilus ask if i want to run, display, or run in terminal. why, what is the difference between these two types of files? And how do I make a file like that to be executable directely, without asking?
16:58<chaoticmass>petemc : it is still serving webpages fine for now, so there's no telling how long it's been doing this
16:58<chaoticmass>petemc: top hangs before it shows anything on the screen
16:58<chapajai>george, i am looking for people that use this software Kaffeine and this hardware SkyStar2
16:58<petemc>chaoticmass: try w
16:58<george>chapajai: and I'm not saying you got a bad response, but it was one of two possible (the other being "no") based on the information you've given so far
16:58<chaoticmass>petemc: I did do a reboot earlier and it didn't cure anything
16:58<petemc>v4mpire: you remove a symlink with rm
16:58<petemc>chaoticmass: you need to get at those logs
16:58<george>chapajai: watch dpkg
16:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
16:59<chaoticmass>w says the load is low, 0.00, 0.07, 0.09
16:59<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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17:00<chaoticmass>petemc: trying to think of some way to read the logs. Just doing cat on them will even cause it to hang
17:00<george>chapajai: I've seen this pattern before, and it always looks to me like the person is building a list of people that will agree to help free forever
17:00<petemc>try copying them elsewhere
17:00<chapajai>what is the format fot the Softcam.Key to work on Kaffeine? thank you
17:00<chapajai>what is the format for the Softcam.Key to work on Kaffeine? thank you
17:00<chaoticmass>petemc: interesting, I did "cp /var/log/messages ~/messages" then "cat messages".
17:00<petemc>chaoticmass: stealing cable are we?
17:00<petemc>chaoticmass: ^^
17:01<chaoticmass>petemc: it copied ok, but when I tried to read it and it died
17:01<petemc>chaoticmass: no, i mean another machine, with scp or some such
17:01<chaoticmass>petemc: stealing cable?
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17:01<petemc>that was for chaoticmass
17:01<petemc>ah, i give up
17:01<chaoticmass>petemc: I'll try to copy the logs to another machine somehow
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17:02<chaoticmass>petemc: just about every program will cause it to hang :( I bet the hard drive is dying.
17:03<elke>A while ago my debian folder disappeard from my gnome (enligtenment?) menu. (How) can I get it back?
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17:03<chaoticmass>I think I've done all I can remotely. Thanks for helping petemc.
17:03<chapajai>george, i am not that kind of person
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17:04<george>good :)
17:04<chapajai>george, I only look for help in a question... are you agree with this?
17:04<george>I hate feeling that way about anyone
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17:06<george>chapajai: notice how the suggestion in "/msg dpkg ask" has the tendency to make people be a closer part of the community
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17:06<istoc>Hi, how would I install a package from etch, I'm in lenny now.
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17:07<george>the one that starts with "If you have a question, just ask!"
17:07<streuner>istoc: what package?
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17:08<istoc>the no-ip package
17:08<george>oops gotta go have fuh :)
17:08<streuner>istoc: there are other packages which do the same
17:09<digit01>Quick question. I want to install a package for VICE. But it's listed as a CONTIB. When I try to use atitude I can see it on the list.
17:09<istoc>should I use the one from etch or get the one from their official site?
17:09<george>and there should have been a comma there... the effect of which is to say "everyone: have fun"
17:09<istoc>I think you used an "h" too lol
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17:11<amphi>'fuh' is good
17:11<v4mpire>petemc, how would i symlink it so winamp can read the ttf ?
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17:12<streuner>istoc: /msg dpkg simple sid backport
17:12<streuner>!info noip2
17:12<dpkg>noip2: (client for dynamic DNS service), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1.7-3 (sid), Packaged size: 67 kB, Installed size: 204 kB
17:12<istoc>Cool, thanks
17:12<petemc>v4mpire: you create symlinks with ln -s , i have no idea where winamp looks for fonts
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17:13<petemc>v4mpire: have you looked at beep media player or xmms(2)?
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17:17<andre>alguem ai
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17:18<v4mpire>petemc, i use xmms but wanna setup winamp for the shoutcast plugin so i can stream as cnt do it with xmms as 1 the plugin dns wanna connect to any streams.. and prefer to have more control of when to use mic etc
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17:18<v4mpire>and petemc winamp is looking in C:\windows\Fonts
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17:19<petemc>and where is that represented in your filesystem?
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17:20<v4mpire>petemc, the Fonts dir doesn't exist... only fonts
17:20<v4mpire>and the ttf is in
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17:21<v4mpire>here /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf
17:21<v4mpire>other apps in wine read the ttf's fine
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17:22<petemc>i know diddly squat about wine, so i cant help you
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17:23<v4mpire>petemc, know anything else good to stream with on linux then with more control than the xmms plugin ?
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17:25<v4mpire>petemc, whats the plugin for that ?
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17:25<pos>chapajai: kaffeine does not support softcam.key - google for kaffeine-sc-plugin
17:26<chapajai>I only need an old file to read it
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17:27<chapajai>I can update the corresponding line
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17:28<jthomas_>I would like to install php5-mcrypt onto Debian 4, but I get an error that it had unmet dependencies and is broken... any suggestions?
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17:29<comfortably_numb_>I have a problem with suspend
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17:30<gsimmons>jthomas_: Provide the error you receive at a pastebin.
17:30<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
17:30<comfortably_numb_>it works with s2ram -f, with pm-suspend and even with hal-system-power-suspend-linux
17:30<comfortably_numb_>but it doesn't with gnome power manager
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17:31<comfortably_numb_>that's odd because I know g-p-m uses hal
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17:32<jthomas_>I've tried with stable testing and unstable repos
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17:38<gsimmons>jthomas_: Please also provide the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file and what you receive for "dpkg --print-architecture".
17:39<jthomas_>ok one moment
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17:39<jthomas_>oscar:~# dpkg --print-architecture \\ i386
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17:40<jthomas_>currently souces.list is only: deb testing main contrib non-free
17:40<jthomas_>that has been tried with stable and with unstable as well
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17:46<istoc>I get an error when trying to produce a config file for noip2 (Can't rename config file (/etc/noip2.conf), Invalid cross-device link.
17:46<istoc>What does thamt mean?
17:46<gsimmons>jthomas_: Please pastebin the contents you receive for "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1".
17:47<JasonS>istoc: ask ?
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17:47<istoc>I got the package off sid
17:47<jthomas_>only one line, gsimmons: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-10 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
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17:55<Zylvain>qqn sait si ya un bug avec les serveurs NFS sous 2.6.22 ?
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17:59<k-man_>what do I need to do to convert from having the hardware clock in local time to hw clock in gmt?
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18:01<rav>Hello. Texmacs is creating a segmentation fault every time I try to run it. Can someone help me?
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18:02<Zylvain>does anyone know if there is a bug with NFS servers udner 2.6.22 ?
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18:09<jthomas_>k-man_: go into your BIOS at boot up and change the time there.
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18:09<k-man_>jthomas_, yeah, i also discovered you need to change /etc/rcS
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18:10<jthomas_>gsimmons: thank you for your help; I have to leave now. If you have any additional ideas about the apt-get broken package issue please let me know. I'll stay logged in to IRC.
18:10<k-man_>i mean /etc/default/rcS
18:10<jthomas_>k-man_: I didn't know that, thank you!
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18:10<k-man_>jthomas_, and you don't need to change it in the bios, you can use hwclock to change it
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18:10<jthomas_>oh? cool.
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18:12<gsimmons>jthomas_: I can only suggest amending your sources.list to point at etch, then update your system accordingly.
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18:13<jthomas_>i've done the point-at-etch but generally my bosses dislike updating packages since we edit so many config files
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18:14<dondelelcaro>jthomas_: the best thing there is to try to avoid editing the config files if possible, or just keep using the old configurations
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18:15<dondelelcaro>(most of the packages which have a lot of configuration required nowadays have include methods so you don't have to change things)
18:15<jthomas_>ok well I'll discuss it with them in the morning, its time for me to home +45
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18:17<zamolxes>I don't know how this is related to debian :) I have debian sid on a dell inspiron 1300 with a 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) sound chip, kernel 2.6.22-1-686, alsa 1.0.15-2 . The sound recording from the microfone isn't working . The volume levels seem to be up, I just don't know where to look at , how to start debugging this, cause I don't get any errors, it's just silent .. thanks
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18:20<blarson>zamolxes: There is a known bug in the driver for some intel sound cards that prevents recording from working.
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18:21<blarson>zamolxes: I think it's fixed upstream in the kernel, don't know if that kernel made it to sid yet.
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18:23<zamolxes>if everything else fails, i'll try compiling 2.6.24-rc3
18:25<zamolxes>also looking at .. i wonder
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18:50<AzaTht>anyone could help me with an fglrx issue? After I updated to latest driver, the screen will freexe for a half second each five second when running under 3D
18:51<AzaTht>don't know where to start looking
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18:52<azeem>AzaTht: start by looking grimly at ATI
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18:58<a1i>hi there, i got a fresh etch-installation and i am getting an error on system boot, it says udev failed to start due to kernel version
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18:59<a1i>then when i log in to gnome it says "faild to initialize HAL"... how do i get rid of these?
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19:13<AzaTht>azeem: cannot look more grimmier ツ
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19:20<amer>hi, I installed Debian 4.01 on my laptop HP Compaq nx9010. Everything is working fine but when I use icewease to open any video on it ask me to install flash player so i installed it but the same problem is still going on
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19:25<v4mpire>amer, you have to enable it in iceweasel
19:26<amer>how to do it please v4mpire
19:26<v4mpire>go to edit then preferences
19:26<v4mpire>and go to the content tab
19:27<v4mpire>make sure enable javascript and enable java is ticked
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19:28<amer> v4mpire they are enabled
19:29<v4mpire>hmm sec lemme see if i changed anything else as i think i found they were on mine too
19:30<v4mpire>oh yea
19:31<v4mpire>you know the and the other 1
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19:32<amer>u mean from synaptic
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19:32<v4mpire>in the dir of the flash installer
19:32<amer>aha ok
19:33<v4mpire>copy that to
19:33<amer>yes I found it
19:33<v4mpire>this dir
19:33<v4mpire>without the .
19:34<v4mpire>then restart iceweasel and try that
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19:41<amer>v4mpire thank u very much it is working now fine
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19:44<v4mpire>no problem amer
19:45<v4mpire>i myself encountered the same problem :/
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20:02<Silenus>Hello, I am having an issue using debian Lenny, I currently have Wine 9.44 but wish to upgrade to 9.49 but it isn't in the repos, how do I go about resolving this.
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20:45<drgeb>when I log in my windowmanager settings are completely messed up is there away to tell it to start from default
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20:56<chealer>drgeb: which window manager do you use?
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21:18<v4mpire>how do u check the current time on a server ?
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21:23<bionet>hola estimados, saludos
21:24<bionet>tengo un problema en debian sid
21:24<bionet>alguien me puede ayudar
21:24<bionet>les cuento
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21:24<bionet>resulta que despues del ultimo upgrade de hoy mi debian esta lentisimo!!
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21:25<chealer>!tell bionet about es
21:26<DanDare>v4mpire, im not at console and cant remember exactly
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21:26<DanDare>v4mpire, tried yet the command 'date'
21:26<v4mpire>yea thats the 1
21:27<v4mpire>how to i know which is the correct java for my server ?
21:28<DanDare>v4mpire, im not at console and even if was im not able to answer.. but this looks my that is some not very specific question that one can answer
21:29<DanDare>i may try "the correct java its the latest one?"
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21:29<v4mpire>ahh so its the same java runtime for all distros ?
21:30<DanDare>i bet that´s not
21:32<DanDare>v4mpire, is you worrie about dependencies or something?
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21:37<v4mpire>DanDare, i do not understand what you mean
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21:39<DanDare>just guessing a bit
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21:41<v4mpire>i want to install the JRE (java-runtime) with apt-get if poss as when i tryed to setup the .bin package from for my home desktop it failed to work
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21:44<billybob>can anyone tell me what is needed to get my SATA devices working on an ICH9R southbridge motherboard ?
21:44<yoshi>does your mainboard have a manual?
21:44<yoshi>i have a ICH7R with three drives raid 5
21:45<gsimmons>billybob: You'll need a more recent kernel than 2.6.18.
21:45<billybob>gsimmons, what are my options concernign that ?
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21:45<billybob>testing, or a vanilla kernel ?
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21:45<v4mpire>SATA hdd works with 2.6.18
21:46<chealer>billybob: presumably a kernel that supports it.
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21:47<v4mpire>i installed etch on my system onto a sata harddrive with 2.6.18 kernel then went to 2.6.22 kernel from sid's repo so i could actually use my soundcard
21:47<gsimmons>chealer: If this is for a new installation, you can use a custom Etch "kmuto" installer (containing the 2.6.23 kernel), or one of the development d-i images.
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21:47<chealer>billybob: ^^ for you
21:47<gsimmons>My bad.
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21:49<billybob>hmm its an iexisting install, that happens to be a netboot
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21:50<v4mpire>so does anyone know if theres an apt-get package of JRE ?
21:50<gsimmons>!tell v4mpire -about install java
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21:51<v4mpire>but wouldn't that be the entire java... as i only need the runtime
21:51<billybob>apt-cache search JRE
21:51<v4mpire>i did
21:51<v4mpire>it returned about 3 docbooks
21:51<gsimmons>v4mpire: There is a difference between the '*-jre' and '*-jdk' packages.
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21:52<billybob>sun-java5-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files)
21:52<basava>can anyone help me getting compiz setup? followed the wiki directions but i get an error when i try to "compiz --replace" something about no xgl modules or somethin, im running the latest stable nvidia driver
21:52<billybob>thats on etch though
21:53<v4mpire>this is for my 3.1 (sarge) dedi
21:53<v4mpire>and it doesn't find it :/
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21:54<gsimmons>v4mpire: Try using 'java-package'. Ask dpkg about it.
21:54<Aleric>What's the open source alternative for skype?
21:55<v4mpire>its already the newest version
21:55<chealer>Aleric: you may be thinking about gizmo, but it's not open source.
21:56<Aleric>I don't think it was that no :/ ...
21:56<Aleric>I'm using skype now, but it sucks that it's closed source. Nothing is supported for linux.
21:56<gsimmons>v4mpire: Again, ask dpkg about it. It's a tool for creating packages from manually downloaded Java distributions.
21:56<Aleric>On the windows client you can play chess for example, and that is just one of a list of hunderd things that simply don't work under linux.
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21:57<reflect>I'm getting an error when I'm doing an apt-cache search and apt-get install
21:57<reflect>W: Couldn't stat source package list etch/updates/etch Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_etch_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
21:57<reflect>W: Couldn't stat source package list etch/updates/etch Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_etch_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
21:58<Alam_Debian>apt-get update
21:59<billybob>v4mpire, ok, so assuming I did the same as you, how would I upgrade my kernel without upgrading the rest of the install (ive never done that before)
21:59<reflect>giving me the same error
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22:02<v4mpire>billybob, i would advise checking then should be more secure than the way i done it
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22:06<billybob>thanks guys
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22:13<peter_>What is a "realm". It seems it is just some arbitrary string that namespaces the various users in an htdigest file. Am I on the right track?
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22:14<dondelelcaro>peter_: pretty much
22:14<peter_>dondelelcaro: thanks
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22:50<beatrise>i have a quick question if anyone is there
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22:51<beatrise>when i try to make command in the terminal it says cc not installed and says to install Software development package
22:51<beatrise>i try to install and and it says insert the disk and won't install
22:51<beatrise>i am using synaptic package manager
22:52<beatrise>any help?
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22:58<dondelelcaro>!b-e beatrise
22:58<dpkg>beatrise: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential.
22:59<beatrise>what is the differnece b/w apptitude and synaptics?
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23:00<dondelelcaro>buzztracker: synaptics is in X, aptitude works in console; you can install build-essential using synaptics too
23:00<dondelelcaro>(it just doesn't translate well into text)
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23:01<beatrise>where do i get aptitude
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23:10<beatrise>I am in aptitude but do not know how to get/install build-essential
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23:10<RaSeBo>#aptitude install build-essential
23:10<dx>I am going sid
23:10<dx>wish me luck
23:11<dx>this comes with archive/masssssive backup
23:11<dondelelcaro>beatrise: or if you're running aptitude, /build-essential(return)+
23:11<dx>What do Debian gurus think of Slackware?
23:11<dondelelcaro>we don't
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23:13<Solver>dx: I haven't used it since 1995 or so
23:13<Solver>I got sick of fixing the same bugs in version after version. It was a good early distro though
23:14<dx>Debian has become badassed of late
23:14<dx>yes grody powerful
23:14[~]ameyer grumbles about the double meaning of bad these days
23:15<dondelelcaro>surprisingly, Debian hasn't changed much.
23:15<dondelelcaro>it's evolving, but the basics have been fairly constant
23:15<Solver>and good too
23:15<dx>KDE, ATI, XORG doing there things. Evolving because of 3rd party, constant in badassedness
23:15<dx>their english.
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23:18<beatrise>when i try to install build-essential it asks for the cdrom
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23:23<blarson>beatrise: if you don't want to use the cdrom, comment it out in sources.list
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23:23<beatrise>and how would i do that
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23:25<drgeb>how do I replace my window session with failsafe cause it's completely messed up?
23:25<blarson>beatrise: edit /etc/apt/sources.list , comment out (with # in first char) or remove cdrom line, run aptitude update
23:25<drgeb>I was playing around with compiz and sgl and sessions settings and now when I log in I get a black screen with no xterm or any menus what so ever. :(
23:26<victor>How can I make Iceweasel and open-office writer display
23:26<blarson>drgeb: try alt-f2 .
23:26<drgeb>blarson no go tried that also
23:27<victor> How can I make Iceweasel and open-office writer display Chinese better. Chinese characters in the same sentence appear in different fonts, looking a little ugly.
23:27<drgeb>alt ctrl backspace allows me to reboot the x manager and I can then log into safe session mode
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23:30<Solver>drgeb: ctrl-alt-bkcp will kill the X server. It is normally set to restart
23:31<Solver>drgeb: all X apps connected to it will exit
23:32<drgeb>Solver thanks for correction on ctrl-alt-bkcp
23:32<Solver>drgeb: np :)
23:33<Solver>I meant to write ctrl-alt-bksp too - my typing sux :)
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23:33<beatrise>blarson : it says i don't have permission to save changes to file
23:34<Solver>beatrise: are you root?
23:34<Solver>(or using sudo, etc)
23:34<drgeb>inside .xsession-errors I see a statement along the lines the pager needs to be fixed
23:34<beatrise>i am in terminal but not logged in in root
23:34<Solver>beatrise: you'll need root privs to edit that file
23:35<beatrise>and would i have to restart and log in at root
23:35<Solver>beatrise: no
23:35<Solver>beatrise: at the shell prompt execute "su"
23:35<Solver>beatrise: enter the root password if you know it
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23:36<Solver>your prompt should change to #
23:36<Solver>this is an indicator you are root
23:36<Solver>ok now you can edit & save the file
23:36<Solver>be careful :)
23:36<Solver>you may want to take a copy first
23:36<Solver>cp sources.list sources.list.orig
23:36<beatrise>and this is what pops up ... debian:/# edit /etc/apt/sources.list
23:36<beatrise>Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
23:36<beatrise>Error: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"
23:37<Solver>try this:
23:37<Solver>nano /etc/apt/sources.list
23:37<Solver>if nano is not found tell us - we'll tell you how to install it
23:37<beatrise>it popped right up
23:37<Solver>nano is a nice user friendly editor
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23:38<beatrise>so i blot out with a # and now how do i save
23:39<Solver>ctrl o to save
23:39<Solver>ctrl x to exit - it'll prompt for save if needed
23:39<Solver>nano has prompts at the bottom for you
23:40<Solver>ok so go ahead and update your package list as you normally would (there are several methods)
23:40<Solver>I use:
23:40<Solver>aptitude update (as root)
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23:41<beatrise>it is downloading so i think it is working
23:41<Solver>cool :)
23:42<Solver>then you can install packages using your perferred method
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23:42<Solver>also I recommend an upgrade:
23:42<Solver>aptitude upgrade
23:42<Solver>it'll pick up security updates
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23:43<beatrise>so now it says that i may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
23:43<Solver>you can go ahead and do it (or aptitude update)
23:44<Solver>sometimes I've seen minor inconsistencies in dependencies like that
23:44<beatrise>but when i run apt-get update, the same message reappears
23:44<Solver>I haven't necessarily found it to be a major problem
23:44<Solver>Leave it for now :)
23:44<Solver>you should still be able to install packages
23:44<Solver>Debian's package management system is so huge I've seen the occassional oddness
23:45<beatrise>yah debian does have a lot of packages
23:45<Solver>18000 for etch I think
23:46<Solver>beatrise: you are using Stable (aka etch) right?
23:46[~]Solver stays away from testing & Unstable :)
23:47<Solver>I'd rather spend my spare time with my daughter than fixing package brokenness :)
23:47<Solver>anyway have fun I'm off to sleep :)
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23:48<beatrise>thanks for all your help
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23:49<Solver>beatrise: np :)
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