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00:09<pal>hi all
00:10<pal>i want my system log should be stored in another machine
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00:18<gsimmons>pal: Start sysklogd with the "-r" option (on the logging server) and modify /etc/syslog.conf for each respective client.
00:20<pal>gsimons:i modified syslog.conf file as *.auth @
00:20<pal>is it ok ?but in that machine where my auth log will store?
00:22<pal>will it be in /var/log?
00:25<Mr_Giraffe>is there any way to make font rendering in, well...good?
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00:53<guillermo>hell gente
00:53<guillermo>me equivoque
00:54<guillermo>un favor uqe necesito nstalar para compilar
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00:56<gsimmons>pal: That should be "auth.* @". 'auth' isn't a priority, it's a facility. Your client logs will be stored on the server as per its syslog.conf.
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01:03<pal>gsimons:as you told ,i have to change/start sysklogd -r option but i can find anything such /etc/init.d/sysklog..?
01:03<pal>or i am missing anything?
01:03<manphiz>It seems xmms 1.2.11 is out for its 10th anniversary. xmms is not quite dead yet :-P
01:04<gsimmons>pal: Yep. You'd want to edit /etc/default/syslogd. There's a comment about it also.
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01:08<pal>gsimons:yes,i got it and after modification i restarted the service
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01:09<pal>gsimons:is it ok now?or i need to change other settings?
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01:11<gsimmons>pal: That should be it. Verify that "remote reception" appears during syslogd's restart.
01:13<pal>gsimons:yes,i checked /var/log/messages "syslogd 1.4.1#20: restart (remote reception)" showing
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01:15<pal>gsimons:now in the hosts machines i changed /etc/syslog.conf file as auth.* @my-syslog-server-ip
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01:15<pal>gsimons:do i need to do anything more?
01:17<gsimmons>pal: Reload syslogd on the client(s). But that's it.
01:18<pal>gsimons:thanks..but in the syslog server the auth log will appear where?is it in /var/log
01:19<pal>as i have mentioned only the syslog server ip.
01:19<gsimmons>pal: Like I said, it will appear where it's configured to appear in your server's /etc/syslog.conf.
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01:34<pal> it's working it possible to generate seperate log files in the server for seperate host systems ?
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01:35<pal>instead of storing all the clients informations in the same file.
01:35<jm_>it is with syslog-ng
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01:55<aarcane>I'm using debian, and having some odd issues
01:55<aarcane>my hardware is fairly new, so I'm in need of current drivers for some of it, and can't get audio.
01:56<aarcane>I'm aware that I can just download the audio drivers from alsa website, but I'd prefer to do things the debian way. is there a decently trusted website from which I can install drivers?
01:56<jm_>just get the latest kernel and build it
01:56<jm_>or use the one from backports
01:56<aarcane>where is backports ?
01:57<dpkg>i heard backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. or or or ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, or <>
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01:59<chealer>aarcane: if you don't mind, which Debian suite do you use?
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02:00<aarcane>I'm using debian etch from the netinst cd from if that doesn't say which "suite" I use, I don't know the answer.
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02:03<chealer>aarcane: that's etch. which ALSA version introduced support for your card?
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02:03<aarcane>chealer, not sure, but I know it worked in archlinux.
02:03<aarcane>it's an Intel ICH8 HDA
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02:08<jm_>kmuto's web page might report which kernel version is needed
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02:13<aarcane>okay, back
02:14<aarcane>using 2.6.22-3 now, and running nvidia drivers again, how do I get sound working though? I'ma go try to figgure it out on google while I wait :)
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02:15<chealer>aarcane: which Linux version does the Arch Linux version you used use?
02:15<pos>Aleric: try twinkle to ekgia for VoIP
02:16<aarcane>chealer, it wass working with 2.6.18 and then later when the upgrade to 2.6.22 happened.
02:17[~]chealer appreciates having a ping below 4 hours.
02:18<chealer>aarcane: oh. then it must not be that your ALSA version lacks support for your card but rather some bug/configuration problem.
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02:30<drgeb>how can you determine which /dev/ttyS0 is used for my usb Pinnacle HD Pro TV Tuner card so I can setup lirc accordingly ? This is supposed to be equivalent to COM0 COM1 etc
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02:41<dondelelcaro>drgeb: dmesg; should clue you in.
02:41<dondelelcaro>(but guessing, it's most likely ttyS2 or ttyS5)
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02:42<dondelelcaro>(though perhaps they're making some modern motherboards nowadays without serial uarts at all.
02:47<sep>drgeb, tried dmesg after inserting the usb thing ? if it registers a ttySx it should be listed there. ?
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02:48<jm_>yeah they are getting rid of RS232 ports these days
02:48<sep>jm_, they are actualy erturning now :)
02:48<sep>atlest for enterprise/tech models
02:48<drgeb>hmm no info in dmesg but tried setserial -g /dev/ttyS0 I get /dev/ttyS0 uart 16550A port 0x03f8 irq 4 baud_base 115200 spd_normal skip_test not sure what this means
02:49<drgeb>and /dev/ttyS1 uart unknown port 0x02f8 irq 3 baud_base 115200 spd_normal skip_test for the next device
02:49<sep>lucky thing too, becouse i have a shitload of gizmos that use serialtty's
02:51<jm_>sep: yeah, but mainstream/desktop boards are different
02:51<drgeb>guess I have to reboot to get a correct dmesg
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02:52<jm_>why do you think a reboot will help?
02:52<drgeb>no idea cause the file has nothing related to /dev/ttyS0
02:53<drgeb>I tried in /var/log to do a grep for ttyS0 and nothing shows up
02:53<dondelelcaro>drgeb: well, the stuff that you gave us lists ttyS1
02:54<drgeb>ttyS2 and ttyS3 look very simmilar to ttyS1
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02:55<drgeb>so how do I distinguish among these
02:55<drgeb>now if I do a lsusb I see in list for the device in question: "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 2304:0227 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex]"
02:56<drgeb>does this mean its ttyS3 ? (I took 004 -1)
02:56<jm_>why don't you check how many rs232 ports your motherboard has?
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02:57<drgeb>why would RS232 ports be related if I am trying to configure a usb tunnercard which has an infrared remote control ??
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03:00<jm_>because it will help you identify how many ttyS devices will be allocated for your motherboard ...
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03:00<jm_>apply some logic
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03:22<sprungle>hi could anyone here tell me why i wouldnt be able to view swf files, it seems i have flash enabled in my mozilla plugins, but still no go
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03:23<sprungle>anyone alive?
03:23<ServerSide>noway lol
03:23<sprungle>maybe there is no linux users in here
03:24<sprungle>ok could anyone tell me a good irc room that i could find help at
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03:37<streuner>sprungle: apt-cache search flash
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03:39<sprungle>streuner, i have installed swf-player
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03:39<sprungle>streuner, in my plugins it says supported
03:40<streuner>sprungle: youtube?
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03:40<sprungle>yes well nudetube
03:40<sprungle>but yeah
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03:41<streuner>flash-player is what you want then
03:41<streuner>add a line for marillat then (/msg dpkg marillat)
03:42<sprungle>streuner, install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
03:42<sprungle>i have done this
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03:42<sprungle>says its supported but still tell me to download it
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03:44<Nemoder>perhaps you want flashplugin-nonfree
03:44<Nemoder>I think it has a script to link /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ properly
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03:45<sprungle>seems strange the free one dont work after all its just a viewer
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03:46<Nemoder>the flash format is not an open protocol, gnash has limited compatibility
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03:46<sprungle>Nemoder, i take it ur running debian, do u use software to veiw swf
03:46<Nemoder>yes, I use the nonfree plugin
03:47<Nemoder>it's free to download, just not free to modify hence it's not in the main repository
03:47<sprungle>ok do u have a source for it
03:48<Nemoder>add contrib and non-free to your sources.list
03:48<dpkg>somebody said non-free was a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the Non-free tracking system, see
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03:49<jm_>isn't it that the installer fails nowadays because something doesn't match? there's a bug in BTS
03:50<sprungle>ok thanx for ur help, i will have to dig alittle deeper into this 1, tell me is debain as good now and as popular as it was 5 yrs ago
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03:53<Nemoder>sprungle: I'm not sure how you would measure that, it certainly fills all my needs
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03:54<gsimmons>jm_: Yep. There's a fixed package in stable-proposed-updates.
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03:59<Cyorxamp>Hey folks, I noticed something called 'backports' and I'd like a package under 'etch-backports' do I just add 'backports' along with contrib and non-free in my sources list ?
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04:00<webofunni>I am getting waiting for root file system message while booting with new recompiled kernel
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04:00<webofunni>my new kernel is 2.6.23
04:00<webofunni>old kernel is 2.6.18-k7
04:00<webofunni>please help
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04:01<jm_>!tell Cyorxamp -about backports
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04:01<jm_>webofunni: misconfigured kernel most likely
04:02<Cyorxamp>jm_, yeah that doesn't tell me how to use them
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04:03<webofunni>can you please help me
04:03<webofunni>I have configured my new kernel using my old kernels configuration
04:03<webofunni>my old kernel boots
04:03<webofunni>but not the new one
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04:06<jm_>Cyorxamp: going to the web page and reading instructions does
04:07<jm_>webofunni: old kernel being debian kernel?
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04:08<webofunni>its debian 4.0 kernel
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04:11<jm_>then it may be your initr* tool failing to generate the file properly - I recommend you reconfigure your kernel so you don't need initrd
04:11<webofunni>but my mp3 player is got detected
04:11<webofunni>by my new kernel
04:11<webofunni>its philips go gear
04:12<webofunni>but not my hard disk WDC WD800BD-08MRA1
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04:12<Nemoder>are sure you didn't configure the kernel to load the hard disk controller as a module?
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04:13<jm_>webofunni: did you check if disk is possibly sdb?
04:13<jm_>webofunni: ls /sys/block
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04:13<webofunni>no its sda
04:13<webofunni>my old kernel boots with sda
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04:14<jm_>yes, but check if it's sdb with the new kernel
04:14<webofunni>Nemoder : my usb drive got detected by new kernel .. then I hopes its ok
04:15<jm_>cat /sys/block/sd*/device/model
04:15<niru>how to mention in preseed to install one package before another could install
04:15<webofunni> check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices cat /proc/modules ls /dev
04:15<webofunni>ALERT ! /dev/sda7 does not exist dropping to shell.
04:15<webofunni>this is the error that I got
04:15<webofunni>I am getting into initrmfs
04:16<webofunni>after the hangup
04:16<webofunni>if I need to execute these commands ( cat /sys/block/sd*/device/model ) there ?
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04:17<jm_>webofunni: yeah
04:19<niru>jm_, any idea
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04:20<niru>how can I set the order of instllation
04:20<yang>Zdravo jm_ !
04:22<jm_>niru: nope, but mentions d-i pkgsel/include string
04:22<jm_>yang: 'lo
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04:23<yang>jm_: do you know Roman Maurer, I think he works in Hermes also ?
04:24<niru>jm_, d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential
04:24<niru>does this mean that openssh-server will install before build-essential
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04:26<jm_>niru: it should yes
04:27<jm_>yang: well "know" - I know who he is etc, but I don't think I ever talked to him
04:27<yang>jm_: I know that he is the president of sl wikipedia and that he is one of the writers of Pingo Linux
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04:30<jm_>yang: yeah, and he always uses stupid ".si" translations in his mails (think zgoscenka)
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04:37<yang>jm_: haha
04:37<pleb2>How could i convert a dvd that i have made in the past (unprotected) into an avi file for re-editing???
04:38<jm_>pleb2: mencoder/transcode - or dvdrip for easy to sue GUI
04:38<jm_>use even
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04:39<pleb2>Thanks again jm_ :)
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04:52<pleb2>also, is there any better dvd editing software than kino... which i find useless as it makes all my video's lose synch with video and sound. :(
04:54<Nemoder>might try avidemux
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05:05<marcos>Bom dia
05:05<marcos>alguem do Brasil por aqui?
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05:06<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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05:13<alexius>anyone exp on RoR ?
05:14<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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05:14<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls>
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05:21<chandu>On my dell optiplex 755 machine, I am not able to boot
05:21<chandu>Its giving CARDMGR[1904] error
05:21<chandu>What may be the problem
05:21<chandu>There are card manager or express card slots installed or configured
05:21<chandu>sorry , there are no card managers
05:22<chandu>no card slots installed or configured
05:23<chandu>please anyone give me some suggesstion, as it is hanging after that error, I am not able to go thru the logs
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05:35<chandu>What may be the problem
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05:41<lounger>hi - i'm having networking issues and think i may be being jammed... can anyone suggest a decent channel to get help??
05:41<pleb2>Jammed??? are you using wifi?
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05:43<lounger>and 3 different routers cannot connect. they all work outside.
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05:44<lounger>ive tried them all from different positions.
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05:45<uNdEr>estamos com problemas pra instalar debian com pen drive ele não inicia, alguem poderia dar uma dica...baixamos o boot.img mas não funciona...
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05:48<pleb2>lounger: perhaps use net stumbler to discover if anyone near you is using the same channells, can you explain your situation better
05:49<pleb2>lounger: i understand your trying to use wireless but how, what are you using, and where? and when does it work and when does it not?
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05:53<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues.
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05:57<janux-xmind>hi guys!
05:57<janux-xmind>which package should i install in order to build j2me apps?
05:58<janux-xmind>somebody there?
05:58<pleb2>Dont know :( sorry
05:59<pleb2>glares at Jm_
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05:59<janux-xmind>does anyone know the path for java 2 interpreter
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06:43<RemsX>can anyone help me troubleshoot an installation problem I'm having?
06:43<RemsX>like.. installing debian?
06:44<gsimmons>RemsX: Just go ahead and describe your installation problem.
06:44<RemsX>well I can load the installation from a dvd
06:44<RemsX>but once it starts
06:45<RemsX>it won't go any farther than "mounting the installation disc"
06:45<RemsX>it says it can't be found
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06:45<RemsX>which seems odd because.. obviously it's in the drive...
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06:51<gsimmons>RemsX: What system (eg. make/model) are you attempting to install to?
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07:04<rigber>buenos dias venezuela
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07:05<subpar>anyone in the mood for helping me out with some wireless issues?
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07:06<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
07:06<panagos>can i install compiz-fusion ubuntu packages on debian?
07:08<Nemoder>I wouldn't recommend it, there are debian packages for it
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07:10<panagos>Nemoder: where can i find them?
07:11<Nemoder>try that
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07:19<GhostlyDeath>Nemoder: he left before you !ask
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07:20<Nemoder>ah well
07:20<GhostlyDeath>* Someone has joined || <Someone> GUYS I NEED HELP! || * Someone has Quit
07:20<Guest1323>can u help me
07:21<GhostlyDeath>Guest1323: No
07:21<GhostlyDeath>Guest1323: We like watching you suffer
07:21<Guest1323>:) Thnx
07:22<GhostlyDeath>Does anyone else smell that?
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07:25<noflash> /ignore -replies GhostlyDeath
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07:27<knopp>I want to learn linux but I don't know where is start :S
07:28<GhostlyDeath>knopp: Google it
07:28<gsimmons>!tell knopp -about grounding
07:28<GhostlyDeath>!tell GhostlyDeath -about grounding
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07:29<GhostlyDeath>Hopefully 5GB is enough for an emulated Debian testing to just compile some code
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07:53<drgeb>I keep seeing this in one of my applications "Unable to find font: FreeMono.ttf" any ideas how to fix this ?
07:56<jm_>install ttf-freefont
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07:59<drgeb>jm_ strange thing is I do have it installed: >apt-get install ttf-freefont results in "ttf-freefont is already the newest version."
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08:00<jm_>drgeb: does fc-list show it?
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08:03<drgeb>jm_ I figured it out the Font in the program I am using is installed as a link and this is broken! so that explains it
08:03<drgeb>thanks for your help though !!
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09:44<kdean06>Basic Linux question: How do I monitor disk I/O from the CLI?
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09:45<matheusjesusa>,k,dmnvbm d
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09:45<Cyorxamp>Sligthy offtopic, if we make GNU/GPL software - are be oblidged to give it for download, or can it be on request?
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10:39<joaa>hey, is there an easy access to a 1disk debian dist? i can find just those 21 discs on debian, is it enough to dl only disk 1?
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10:41<JasonS>joaa: yes, less if you have a decent connection
10:43<JasonS>you can then use aptitude to install what else you want
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10:45<joaa>so i can dl for instance only using disc1 and use apt afterwards?
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10:49<JasonS>joaa: correct
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10:53<jaakko>Hi. What is correct way to install local .deb package with dependencies?
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10:54<jaakko>You can not use aptitude to install local file?
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10:55<petemc>jaakko: dpkg -i foo.deb, then aptitude -f update
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10:56<vonnis>hey i have a problem, i want to install a program (.deb package) but it wont install because i dont have certain files. if i search in the package manager then i cant find them. how is this possible?
10:57<erikyyy>hi. i want to reinstall/reconfigure packages automatically. so i do DEBCONF_DB_OVERRIDE='File{/root/my}' DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install --reinstall libnss-ldap
10:57<petemc>vonnis: try what i suggest above
10:57<erikyyy>but as a result i get the file '/root/my' replaced with the original values in the debconf database
10:57<petemc>vonnis: tho, i think its dpkg -i foo.deb , aptitude -f upgrade
10:57<petemc>actually, im not sure - try update first..
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10:59<vonnis>if i do update in teh konsole it says command not found
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10:59<petemc>vonnis: aptitude -f update ?
10:59<petemc>after trying to install the deb with dpkg -i
10:59<petemc>where did you get this deb file?
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11:00<vonnis>from the website that made the program
11:00<petemc>very useful information
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11:00<petemc>it may require require libraries that arent in the version of debian you're running
11:00<petemc>isnt kismet in the repos?
11:01<vonnis>yes i think so i installed debian and kismet before but that was a year ago so i dont really remember
11:01<petemc>you know how to install software on debian?
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11:02<vonnis>yes normally i do but i had it alread on my usb stick
11:02<vonnis>it is in the repository i see now
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11:03<vonnis>its swos up 2 kismets in the package manager
11:03<vonnis>1 is whit a quastion mark and the other whit a big U
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11:04<vonnis>whats the difference
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11:05<faheem__>Is anyone aware of an good python alternative for server-side php scripting? I currently am messing with a php script which sits in a Java applet, and received files.
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11:07<jaakko>petemc: update was not enough, but dpkg -i foo.deb and aptitude install foo worked
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11:09<vonnis>how do i get this files?
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11:09<jaakko>faheem__: there is some python module for apache, I can't remember it's name...
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11:10<vonnis>how do i update my package manager?
11:10<faheem__>jaakko: You mean mod python or mod wsgi?
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11:13<mtnman>vonnis: which package manager, and why do you think you need to update it?
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11:14<vonnis>because i cant find cetrain file
11:14<mtnman>vonnis: if you are respoinding to me please be more clear and answer my entire question.
11:15<mtnman>vonnis: i'm not sure if you are trying to update your "package manager" (whatever you mean by that) or its database.
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11:16<vonnis>the kpackagemanager cant find files i need for another program, i thought i needed to updat my packagemanager or change my sources.list file
11:16<mtnman>vonnis: well i know nothing of kpackagemanager. are you using a debian system, or a variant?
11:16<vonnis>i have little experience whit debian
11:16<mtnman>are you using debian or a variant?
11:16<vonnis>debian amd64
11:17<faheem__>jaakko: Don't see functionality for handling uploaded files, but maybe I'm not looking carefully enough...
11:17<mtnman>vonnis: well i don't know anything about kpackagemanager. have you looked at its docs?
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11:17<vonnis>yes can find it in the kpackage manager handbook
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11:17<vonnis>a friend of my said i need to change my sources.list file
11:18<mtnman>vonnis: what are you trying to install?
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11:18<oxynet>george, hello george remember me?? yesterday i got a problem with kernel
11:18<jaakko>faheem__: what do you want to do with python? Is it too complicated to use PHP?
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11:18<row>I am sending emails via a script run by apache (www-data) and Return-Path is getting forced to www-data@hostname how can I stop this happening as it is causing failers as www-data@hostname does not accept mail so it is getting bounced by some mailservers, I am running postfix.
11:18<oxynet>i format the notebook with ext3, and the kernel works fine
11:18<vonnis>sorry i was disconnected did i missed a answer ?
11:19<sooperkuh>(17:18:08) mtnman: vonnis: what are you trying to install?
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11:20<faheem__>jaakko: No. Just don't want to use PHP. Also, need to interface with Django, so thought a Python approach would be easier...
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11:20<vonnis>im trying to install kismet but it wont install because i need certain files, the problem is that my packagemanager cant find the files.
11:21<vonnis>this is the output of the installation and the sources.list file
11:21<jaakko>faheem__: and you are using your own server?
11:21<faheem__>jaakko: Yes.
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11:21<jaakko>faheem__: you can do the whole server with python in that case
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11:22<faheem__>jaakko: Can you elaborate?
11:22<faheem__>jaakko: Should be clear I
11:22<jaakko>faheem__: sometimes easier that way, keeps things simple. There are BaseHTTPServer or something like that
11:22<faheem__>I'm using Apache, and want to stay with Apache.
11:23<faheem__>jaakko: Yes, probably using a Python web server would make things simpler, but I think I need the functionality apache provides...
11:24<faheem__>Also, I already know the basic apache stuff.
11:24<faheem__>Just looking for a PHP server-side alternative.
11:24<faheem__>For a file management script, I mean.
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11:25<faheem__>This is something that could be called via a java applet.
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11:30<vonnis>can please some one tell me why i cant find the files libc6 2.6.1-1, libgcc1 1:4.2.1, libmagick9 etc pleaseee
11:30<azeem>vonnis: why do you need them?
11:30<cahoot>vonnis: to me it looks like you try to mix debian versions - that's not good for you
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11:31<vonnis>i dont try to mix anything i just need the files
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11:32<vonnis>for kismet i need them
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11:32<cahoot>vonnis: doesn't ethc offer kismet the natural way?
11:32<azeem>vonnis: apt-get install kismet
11:32<serge>Hello! I've got Bluetooth USB adaptor and Nokia N95. Can somebody pls help me, what kind of software I need in Debian to connect to Internet? I have some ideas how to link the Nokia and PC via Btooth, but what about PPP, wvdial, etc.. How can I set up N95 as a wireless modem for my system?
11:32<vonnis>yes but i cant install him
11:32<azeem>vonnis: put the output of "apt-get install kismet" on a pastebin
11:32<dpkg>Please don't paste anything into the channel; use a paste site instead, like: or or or for pics. --- Also ask me: <pastebin pipe>
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11:33<vonnis>i will do
11:33<jaakko>serge: You need to "aptitude install pppd"
11:34<serge>jaakko: I know, I have it. How to configure N95 as modem?..
11:35<serge>ANy kind of clue is welcome
11:35<vonnis>i pasted it azeem
11:35<azeem>vonnis: also, pastebin the content of /etc/apt/sources.list
11:36<vonnis> underneathe is the output of my sources.list file
11:36<vonnis>who im fast hah
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11:37<jaakko>serge: sorry, didn't read you msg to end.. Can you see the N95 as serial port?
11:39<vonnis>i pasted it azeem
11:40<fanto666>Hello, I installed debian from USB stick. Now I'd like to install packages from the same stick. Any hints how to do that automag^Htically?
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11:40<azeem>vonnis: and "apt-cache policy kistmet"
11:40<azeem>vonnis: and "apt-cache policy kismet"
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11:42<serge>jakko: it seems the most important question, how to make it ... ls /dev/tty* doesn't gives any useful , just usual ttyS* ...
11:42<serge>jaakko: it seems the most important question, how to make it ... ls /dev/tty* doesn't gives any useful , just usual ttyS* ...
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11:43<jaakko>serge: I have done gprs connections with pppd and Nokia with USB cable. Wait a moment..
11:43<vonnis>here it is azeem
11:43<vonnis>the last lines
11:43<azeem>vonnis: you seem to have manually installed an incompatible version of kismet
11:44<azeem>vonnis: run "apt-get install kismet=2006.04.R1-1.1"
11:44<jaakko>serge: it should be /dev/rfcomm0 with bluetooth
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11:46<vonnis>this is it azeem
11:47<jaakko>serge: Have you got the Nokia and bluetooth work as a pair?
11:47<serge>jaakko: yes! I have it /dev/rfcomm0 . Now what to do next?
11:47<azeem>vonnis: well, then fix those packages back to stable as well
11:48<azeem>by running apt-cache policy on them and telling apt-get to install the one from etch with =
11:48<serge>NOkia detected Bluetooth and they now are seems married. :)
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11:49<jaakko>serge: have you read this:
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11:52<serge>jaakko: I have already read and done this: . It help me to marry Nokia and USB-Bluetooth adaptor together, I set up wvdial, but it can't initialize modem... Well, let me see you URL for now....
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11:55<vonnis>he cant find it azeem
11:55<vonnis>i did it exactly as you said
11:56<azeem>vonnis: remove the 5:
11:56<azeem>eh, 7:
11:58<vonnis>apt-get install libmagick9= does the same error version not found
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11:58<azeem>vonnis: did you run apt-get update
11:58<azeem>vonnis: it's dfsg1, not dfsgl
11:58<azeem>one vs. el
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11:59<fanto666>any idea how to use ISO image on USB stick for installing packages automatically?
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12:00<vonnis>it looks like an l because of this chatprogram
12:00<vonnis>a capitol l is L in this program
12:01<vonnis>i think linux just hates me
12:01<serge>jaakko: the information from both URLs is almost the same. It's clear. The problem, that I can't initialize my modem , when I start wvdial it gives ERROR, My init string looks like AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP",""
12:01<vonnis>i dont have any other explanation why it just installs
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12:01<azeem>vonnis: you typoed the version, simple
12:02<vonnis>i typed the version what do you mean
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12:04<vonnis>why doesnt is install?
12:04<vonnis>you may say it if you dont know either
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12:05<vonnis>it says the version is availble and when i try to install it say its not found
12:05<vonnis>noonr can help me?
12:05<vonnis>im fucked
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12:07<vonnis>im getting a headache of linux
12:07<vonnis>i think im goin back to windowss
12:07<jaakko>serge: ok, I had also problems with wvdial, I used pppd with chat-scripts
12:08<JasonS>vonnis: what are you trying to do?
12:08<amphi>serge: pppconfig always worked well for me
12:08<serge>jaakko: thanks for your info. Let me try your way. It looks less painful.
12:08<fanto666>vonnis, just 'apt-get install libmagick9' does not work?
12:08<vonnis>im trying to install something but the program (kismet) needs files that i cant find
12:09<fanto666>what does 'dpkg -p libmagick9' say?
12:10<vonnis>libmagick cant install because it also needs files like libc6 2.6.1-1
12:10<sooperkuh>vonnis: have you done a "apt-get update" already?
12:10<JasonS>vonnis: and how are you trying to install the original package?
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12:10<sooperkuh>your pase does not look like it
12:12<sooperkuh>paste of course
12:12<vonnis>i get on error
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12:13<fanto666>vonnis did you see that after you run apt-get update?
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12:13<vonnis>i see it now but i dont know what it means
12:13<serge>thanx guys. Till tomorrow's evening here (GMT+2) :)
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12:17<vonnis>why cant anyone help me?
12:18<vonnis>is there really noone that knows
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12:22<JasonS>vonnis: what does that mean in english? how are you trying to install your application?
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12:26<wakaran>vonnis: try: apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
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12:35<PP188>hi, had anybody ever worked with Request Tracker ?
12:35<PP188>i need help
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12:38<zapata>What is the command to play an entire album with mplayer-nogui?
12:38<zapata>Instead of typing in each song name?
12:38<Eulex>go into the directory of the album, run mplayer * ?
12:39<zapata>But i meant via terminal.
12:39<zapata>Is it possible?
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12:39<Eulex>zapata, yes, I just gave you the command?
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12:40<zapata>Hehe thanks, mplayer *.mp3 did the trick :)
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13:00<manoman>hi there :)
13:01<manoman>I have a little question, anybody can tell me in how much time, gnome 2.20 will come in Lenny ?
13:01<manoman>if you now about the precedent major gnome releases
13:02<manoman>if you know**
13:02<Eulex>!tell manoman about wir
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13:04<manoman>no memories about the time between gnome2.18 on sid and gnome 2.18 on lenny ?
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13:11<sooperkuh>manoman: technically speaking there are even small bits missing in sid IIRC
13:12<sooperkuh>not that it makes any difference
13:12<manoman>IIRC ?
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13:13<sooperkuh>if i recall correctly
13:14<sooperkuh>you know
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13:16<sooperkuh>manoman: if you have a look at
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13:16<rpetre>sort of offtopic: anyone from bay area / san francisco?
13:17<manoman>sooperkuh, ok i read that
13:17<sooperkuh>then you see some build failures on several archs and libwnck-dependencies that won't go away overnight IMHO
13:17<sooperkuh>but you might ask in #gnome-debian on
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13:21<manoman>oki, i'll go there
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13:25<basava>hi, how do i configure my mouse wheel to switch desktops?
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13:26<cahoot>basava: I'd suspect that depends on what desktop manager you use
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14:08<vonnis>hello im trying to install kismet but in the package manager (i CAN find it) but i cant select the install button, it lists kismet 2 times one has a big U mark the other a quastion mark
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14:09<Eulex>what package manager?
14:09<Eulex>try to right-click it and select install or similar
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14:10<rpetre>in aptitude U means unsigned or bad signature
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14:12<vonnis>i selected the one whit a quastion mark and selected uninstall, it sayed it wasnt installed and therefor couldn uninstall. now the quastion mark disappearred and the U also. now there is only a N but if i select it i cant install it
14:12<vonnis>the button that says install is not lighted
14:12<vonnis>what could be the reason?
14:12<Norman334>Hello :) Wath for a Datai i need to play videos in a divx format?
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14:14[~]thijs hi all
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14:47<k11stan>hey every1 - i'm having some issues with soft raid 5 and grub - grub fails to install ...
14:48<knoppix_test>need help with live knoppix! can any body help me! I'm new in LUNIX!
14:48<knoppix_test>:D LINUX*
14:48<k11stan>whats the prob ?
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14:48<knoppix_test>I connected to the internet using Modem Dialer! but the speed is just 9600 bps!
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14:49<k11stan>whaaa ? modem ? have u just warped in from the past ?
14:49<knoppix_test>I need faster than this speed, I connect to the internet with same modem in windows with 56000 bps
14:50<k11stan>anyways - i have not touched modem settings in over 5 yrs so i couldnt tell u what to do
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14:50<twinsen>i cannot load tightvncserver... gives me error: Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script
14:50<k11stan>hey every1 - i'm having some issues with soft raid 5 and grub - grub fails to install ...
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14:52<alec>k11stan: is your /boot on raid5? I think I've had problems with that, but I've gotten /boot on raid1 working without a problem
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14:53<marupa>is there a way to see a log of when a drive last had an error after a reboot? I think one of my drives is failing but it's hard to tell which.
14:53<k11stan>well no md0 is / and swap is md1
14:53<knoppix_test>so another question! Is any way to chat with yahoo using live knoppix?
14:53<cahoot>marupa: smartmontools?
14:54<alec>knoppix_test: #knoppix may have a better idea of what software they have, but you could look for pidgin, gaim, or kopete
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14:54<k11stan>hey alec - so do i need to make a sep. part for /boot ?
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14:56<marupa>cahoot, so, after a failure has occurred, how would I check what has happened after I reboot?
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14:59<marupa>also, is it possible for a drive failing on IDE channel 0 to cause a drive to fail on IDE channel 1?
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15:03<twinsen>i've created $fontPath .= "/usr/include/X11/fonts/,";
15:04<twinsen>but vncserver still says I need the correct font path
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15:04<rickysarraf>Hi! How can I create -dbg package for the kernel and does it hit performance ? Any docs ?
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15:11<alec>k11stan: you could try that and see if it works - maybe put it on a different, non-raid5 partition
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15:13<alec>rickysarraf: you probably don't want to make a -dbg package, you probably want to recompile your kernel with debugging support; google around for "compiling kernel the debian way", there are some good docs on sourceforge or alioth
15:13<alec>rickysarraf: it will be a performance hit
15:13<rickysarraf>That's what I'm looking for.
15:14<rickysarraf>RH profides -debuginfo rpm packages for the kernel.
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15:14<alec>rickysarraf: what does it do?
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15:14<rickysarraf>Also when I look into the .config file for SLES/RH, they have CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y for their production kernel images.
15:14<rickysarraf>So I'm assuming that there must not be a performance hit.
15:15<alec>rickysarraf: I think CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL only controls what options are shown at kernel config time and doesn't add code
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15:15<rickysarraf>If I understand correctly, -debuginfo kernel package would be the same with debugging symbols separated. But I'm not sure.
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15:15<alec>rickysarraf: you're looking to run gdb on the kernel?
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15:16<alec>rickysarraf: like kprobes?
15:16<marupa>do smartmontools have to be installed before a failure occurs to 'log' the failure, or is it automatically logged?
15:17<rickysarraf>If we look into the help docs for each option in the make [*]config page, the docs mention which option could have a performance hit.
15:17<rickysarraf>CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL, CONFIG_DEBUG_FS and many more don't list a performance hit.
15:17<rickysarraf>I guess that's why they are enabled on SLES/RH kernels.
15:17<rickysarraf>alec: Yes, systemtap uses kprobes
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15:18<rickysarraf>This was the same concern for the many packages for which we have -dbg packages available.
15:19<rickysarraf>I don't think there's a performance hit. The debug symbols only get loaded when gdb is triggered (for example, when they crash)
15:19<rickysarraf>But I'm not sure how it is done in the kernel.
15:20<alec>rickysarraf: lemme look up this rhel -debuinfo kernel package, I'm interested to see how it's done
15:20<alec>rickysarraf: the easy answer is to recompile your kernel, using the config in /boot as a template
15:21<rickysarraf>I've done that right now.
15:21<rickysarraf>Will have to boot into it and see the performance.
15:21<rickysarraf>But a doc would have been better (which I've not been able to find yet) :-(
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15:22<jaakko>Is there any irc channel for debian legal issues?
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15:23<darsie>What is the '1:' in 'xserver-xorg 1:7.2-5'? Why does it say 'X.Org X Server 1.4.0' in Xorg.0.log?
15:24<rickysarraf>alec: Thanks. Let me see if it talks about the doubts I mentioned.
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15:26<rickysarraf>alec: It is just a Debian Kernel build HOWTO.
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15:28<alec>rickysarraf: I must have been confused as to what you were after
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15:29<rickysarraf>alec: I hope you are aware of SystemTap.
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15:29<rickysarraf>SystemTap has a pre-requisite.
15:29<alec>rickysarraf: I'm not, but I think I'll look it up
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15:30<rickysarraf>alec: It is the replacement of DTrace in Linux
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15:30<alec>rickysarraf: gotcha, know what dtrace is
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15:31<george>nice, oxynet's kernel compile finally worked for him
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15:41<marupa>question about smartmontools. ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x000000be = 190 means bad sector, or failing drive?
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15:50<Edom>Hola a todos
15:51<Edom>¿alguien me recomienda un manual o tutorial para instalar Postfix con PostgresSQL?
15:51<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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16:00<Vanye>Can anyone recomment a good, no-frills server-grade motherboard (64-bit, Core-2-Quad), hopefully with no vid/aud/HDD or front panel switch connections, maybe with USB and Printer ports. I'm blind and having a hell of a time consulting the HCL.
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16:05<enouf>Vanye: not sure what to tell ya, any decent Motherboard should do, but i'm not up on all the latest hardware latelty .. any Intel Motherboard should be ok (perhaps with some caveats) Also are you aware of . I was helping a user with the speakup patch on debian (User is also completely blind)
16:07<Vanye>I'm using the speakup kernel, and logging all this. Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Thanks.
16:07<enouf>Vanye: this user owns and uses the BrailleNote device 7.2, iirc
16:07<enouf>Vanye: ahh .. welcome
16:07<Vanye>I have a crappy LiteTalk synth,.
16:08<enouf>Vanye: from ~shane? the 2.6.18 one?
16:08<enouf>Vanye: this user has no hardware synth unfortunately so we're making due with software and espeak and festival and stuff
16:08[~]bzed found the hardware documentation from intel pretty much incomplete and annoying and annoygin to find, so I just got an AMD again
16:09<Vanye>It's a 2.4 kernel that came with Slackware. I dunno evn which version. I'm porting back to debian here soon.
16:09<enouf>bzed: kind of true .. it's just more hit or miss as i recall
16:09<enouf>Vanye: here's what that user found
16:10<bzed>enouf: especially because I was not able to figure otu which board supports VT.... with amd it just works
16:10<enouf>Vanye: i was trying to compile the debian 2.6.22-5{6} with debian speakup patch and it fails
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16:10<enouf>bzed: hrm, the motherboard requires some VT functionaitlty?
16:10<enouf>i thought the CPU flags are all you need
16:11<enouf>vmx and svm
16:11<enouf>and/or i should say
16:11<bzed>enouf: yes, as far as I understand it parts of their VT stuff are done in the bios, or at least the bios needs to support it.
16:11<enouf>ahhh .. i see what you mean
16:11<bzed>enouf: amd does everything within the CPU, so all you need is a CPU with some random board
16:12<Vanye>I haven't gotten orca installed yet. One reason I'm moving back to debian. Hopefully I can get something running on this thing.
16:12<enouf>Someone i know bought a sony craptop, which uses a VM enabled CPU, but their BIOS has it disabled with no real way oif enabling it
16:12<enouf>bzed: so they rewrote the BIOS O-O
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16:12<enouf>bzed: ahhh .. i see
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16:12<enouf>bzed: and yes, it was an Intel Core2Duo iirc
16:12<enouf>on the Sony
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16:13<enouf>Vanye: ok, i see - unfortunately the kernel-speakup-patch needs a Maintainer, as it's now being removed for lack of maintership
16:14<bzed>enouf: and finding a nice board for amd was not hard... and virtualization works well
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16:14<enouf>Vanye: i also tried the Vanilla sources + the speakup-2.0 patch from .. again it fails
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16:14<enouf>bzed: righto ..
16:14<Vanye>Yeah. They re-added it back to the 2.6.23, so I might be able to use that.
16:15<enouf>Vanye: re-added what?
16:15<enouf>2.0 is old
16:15<enouf>and needs maintenance
16:15<Vanye>S'what I heard on the speakup mailing list.
16:15<enouf>no matter whether from, or the debian kernel patch
16:16<enouf>Vanye: which month was anything announced? i want to find the info please
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16:17<Vanye>It was this month, maybe a wekk ago.
16:17<enouf>Vanye: here's the debian announcement of removal
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16:17<enouf>for lack of maintenance .. not sure if that's a precursor announcement of what
16:18<enouf>Vanye: i've reviewed .. allow me to look again then
16:18<Vanye>Hmm. Someone says he has it compiled and running.
16:18<enouf>well, i've been toying with it, but i fail at certain points and i'm not a kernel dev, not even a programmer O.o
16:18<enouf>i saw info about .22-5 and such
16:19<enouf>er .. .22 .. not sure if those were debian kernels though
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16:21<Vanye>I know that it's not in 2.6.22. They dropped it for reasons that the serial port code had been changed and messed it up for speakup. I heard that they put things back, or that it's back in the git repository, anyway.
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16:22<enouf>Vanye: well, for November, i see even a few emails from the user i was helping, but nothing jumps out about 2.6.23 support
16:23<enouf>in any of the Titles so far
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16:23<Vanye>Wish I could find and post it here.
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16:24<Vanye>I need to run. Visitors.
16:24<freerad>?Hello, does anyone know a way to get rss updates on debian-repository updates ?
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16:24<freerad>if not' I will implement one.... but I prefer existing one...
16:25<freerad>? :(
16:26<dkr>never heard of it. but then again, debian has what, 17000 packages? :)
16:27<dkr>I use apticron to mail me about updates avail
16:27<enouf>bzed: all that aside, i like AMD and have for a while now .. just that they too have had their share of gotchas and hidden things that i found disturbing, but again; i was just trying to give some info about most compatible for a non-saavy hardware user (not to mention the accessibikity needs)
16:28<freerad>As far as I understand, it does not have to be a package, it can be rss/rdf channel at
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16:28<enouf>bzed: i guess i should've blurted out ICH7{8}, etc .. but whatever .. if i needed to buy a spanking new now, i'd research it thouroughly
16:29<enouf>er thoroughly
16:29<dkr>freerad: found one for security updates:
16:29<nismo>has anybody the default bashrc file from debian lenny amd64 (KDE desktop)?
16:30<enouf>bzed: i'm the type to go with s939 still O.o
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16:30<dkr>nismo: look in /etc/skel ?
16:30<enouf>nismo: yeah there
16:30<freerad>dkr, I saw that, but as yoiu said, it is only security updates...
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16:30<freerad>but thanks
16:31<nismo>dkr: enouf: thx
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16:36<freerad>what is apt-index-watcher ?
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16:41<Vanye>Hello again.
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16:43[~]Vanye goes and looks for that speakup in 2.6.23 email.
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16:57<Vanye-AFK>The announcement was made by Janina Sajka <> on : Nov 2007 23:03:30 -0500, to the mailing list, , titled: Announcing SpeakupModified Fedora 8 Kernels & Firefox RPMS.
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16:58<Vanye>A Fedora RPM...bummer.
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16:59<Vanye>Well, *somebody* got it working.
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17:04<mildner>how can I repair iceape
17:04<mildner>iceape doesnt start anymore
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17:06<jaakko>mildner: how did you broke it?
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17:06<maxamillion>where might i find the config file for ntop?
17:06<mildner>I tried to fix youtube and I guess than it broke
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17:07<mildner>it is 64bit lenny
17:07<skiper>can anybocy help me st up my eggdrop
17:07<Eulex>mildner, there are several.
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17:08<Eulex>mildner, but I assume you meand amd64 lenny.
17:08<mildner>eulex: sim, yes ;-)
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17:08<Eulex>mildner, and flash won't work in a 64-bit browser. you need to get yourself a 32-bit one.
17:09<Eulex>mildner, what appears in a terminal when you try to start iceape from there?
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17:09<mildner>eulex: how can I start it in a terminal?
17:09<Eulex>mildner, you type in iceape and press enter.
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17:10<mildner>Eulex: Speicherzugriffsfehler
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17:11<Eulex>mildner, what exactly did you do?
17:11<mildner>Eulex: possible to copy 3 lines here?
17:11<mildner>(iceape-bin:6258): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
17:11<mildner> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
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17:12<Eulex>that was 4 lines
17:13<mildner>sorry :-)
17:13<mildner>but one was emty lol
17:13<weasel>was not.
17:14<thiagomz_>Anybody has a unstable sources.list to share ?
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17:14<dondelelcaro>thiagomz_: take a stable sources.list and s/stable/unstable/;
17:14<thiagomz_>dondelelcaro, I made this... but I got errors on apt-get update
17:14<jaakko>skiper: what is your problem? the config file?
17:15<mildner>Eulex: could you read the paste?
17:15<Eulex>mildner, yes.
17:15<thiagomz_>Err ununstable/updates/main Packages
17:15<thiagomz_> 404 Not Found [IP: 80]
17:15<skiper>i dont know how to set up my eggdrop
17:15<thiagomz_>ununstable, hehehe
17:15<weasel>no security support for unstable.
17:16<jaakko>skiper: what happens if you start it? what should happen? :-D
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17:16<skiper>i havent started isntalling it!
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17:17<Myon>thiagomz_: frankly, you don't want to use unstable if you need to ask questions like these
17:17<skiper>can anybody help me set it up!
17:17<Myon>!ask skiper
17:17<streuner>!tell skiper about ask
17:18<jaakko>skiper: oh, I see.. type in console "aptitude install eggdrop"
17:18<thiagomz_>there are yet apt-setup on debian ?
17:18<dpkg>[apt-setup] a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. To install from a cd-rom ask me about <apt-cdrom>. apt-setup is no longer available as a .deb (usable on an installed system) in etch and later since base-config was removed ( <apt-spy> or 'netselect-apt' can be used instead.
17:18<jaakko>skiper: ..if you are using aptitude.
17:19<thiagomz_>streuner, tkz !
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17:20<skiper>i have no edea wat im using im new here
17:20<mildner>Eulex: do you think there is a way to repair?
17:20<Eulex>mildner, what can be broken can be fixed.
17:20<lupine>not always
17:20<Eulex>mildner, again, what exactly did you do?
17:20<jaakko>skiper: are you running debian etch? How have you installed previous programs?
17:21<Eulex>lupine, well, it's true for software, at least
17:21<mildner>Eulex: just see the divorcerate and it will profe you wrong
17:21<Eulex>mildner, I didn't say that everything is always fixed. just that it _can_ be fixed. I also didn't say that it can be fixed easily.
17:21<lupine>Eulex: some of the time :D.
17:22<skiper>i just fallow the isntructions on jan website regarding installing the eggdrop
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17:23<mildner>Eulex: I can't tell you exactly ...I followed certain advises how to make youtube running and don't know anymore what caused the mistake sorry
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17:23<Eulex>mildner, what instructions did you follow, then?
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17:24<streuner>skiper: besides, why do you need an eggdrop?
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17:25<skiper>for a bot
17:25<mildner>Eulex: sorry to reconsider the steps is impossible....I only thought to remove Iceape and reinstall I wrong?
17:25<Eulex>mildner, depends on what you really did do.
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17:26<mildner>Eulex: I installed some repositories and run flash player but nothing turned out to be working
17:27<mildner>Eulex: I am a type of try and error *shame*
17:27<Eulex>mildner, what repositories did you add? in any case. do you have a 32-bit iceape? because flash _will_ _not_ work with a 64-bit browser.
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17:28<mildner>Eulex: I guess --->
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17:30<mildner>Eulex: if I look here at the Distribution there I read "etch" is this ok?
17:30<mildner>Eulex: I see 6 lines with lenny and 2 lines with etch
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17:31<Eulex>mildner, sorry, I don't really have time to help, I shouldn't have started in the first place...
17:32<mildner>Eulex: is ok no problem.....
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17:46<caoilte>hi. g/f has copied her dvds onto external HD. does anyone know of anyway to get mplayer (or other video player) to play these directories as if they're dvds?
17:47<enouf>[17:44:36] Vayne: there was no such nickname
17:47<enouf>[17:44:41] Cannot find Vayne on irc
17:47<enouf>wonderful, can;'t even send the b0z0 a memoserv telling him it works fine
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17:48<enouf>welp, if anyone else cares, here's the patch;
17:48<enouf>and it's a diff , not an RPM as he thinks
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17:48<enouf>i gotta go out and eat now, bbl
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17:57<zamolxes>hrm, after upgrading to a new xorg in sid (1:7.3+6) everything seems slower, and top shows 10-15% cpu usage from xorg. any ideeas on how I could further investigate this issue? thanks
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18:00<jarkmeister>Debian rocks :D
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18:04<drgeb>my gnome window manager is completely messed up, how can I start from scratch with the default settings ?
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18:05<lupine>drgeb: it stores all it's settings in gconf
18:05<lupine>so good luck
18:05<lupine>(it's called metacity, btw)
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18:06<drgeb>lupine I did a find . -name gconf in my home directory nothing found
18:06<lupine>that's because gconf ~= registry
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18:06<lupine>it is a silly place
18:07<lupine>gconf-editor will provide you an interface (like regedit)
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18:07<sooperkuh>drgeb: you could try out adding a "clean" account first
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18:09<sooperkuh>and your personal gconf data should be in ~/.gconf *but be careful in what you do there*, gconf-editor is probably a better idea
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18:09<drgeb>hmm sooperkuh hmm what do u mean? create a new account ?
18:10<sooperkuh>yep, try to create a new account, then you see if it is a per-account or systemwide problem
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18:10<drgeb>its a per account issue
18:11<drgeb>cause I have logged in to several other accounts and they are fine
18:11<sooperkuh>you might have a look at .gconf/apps/metacity .. but be careful!
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18:14<drgeb>looks pretty empty to me, but there is also a gconfd directory with a saved_state file
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18:15<sooperkuh>what problem do you actually have with metacity?
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18:17<drgeb>the borders and menu bar dissapeared also the desktop
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18:17<drgeb>so seems like the applications that automatically start are in a diffrent window space by themselves
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18:18<drgeb>thats my best explanation of what I observe
18:18<sooperkuh>maybe it just crashed? what happens when you try to start it manually? do you have a shell open?
18:18<drgeb>i don't know if its because of compiz
18:18<drgeb>what do you mean manually ?
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18:18<sooperkuh>aaaaaah ... now that makes a difference
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18:19<sooperkuh>by typing "metacity --replace" in the shell?
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18:19<drgeb>i log in and then from another window by typing crl-alt-F1 I log in set the display and type xterm to get an xterm
18:19<drgeb>what does that do ?
18:20<sooperkuh>it should start metacity if it is not running. I do not understand what you are doing. are you using a second DISPLAY like on a second computer?
18:21<drgeb>no only one display
18:21<sooperkuh>aah ... sorry, I m stupid ..
18:21<drgeb>not sure how to technically say it right
18:22<sooperkuh>my mistake .. have you tried starting "metacity" from your console (or xterm)?
18:22<drgeb>just typed metacity --replace
18:22<sooperkuh>and ?
18:22<drgeb>menu bar still gone
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18:23<sooperkuh>hm ... but window decorations are here?
18:23<sooperkuh>you should get the menu bar by typing "gnome-panel"
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18:25<drgeb>its back!!! now how do I make sure it remains when I log in again ?
18:26<sooperkuh>Have a look in the System menu "Preferences" "Sessions"
18:26<sooperkuh>both gnome-panel and metacity should be set to "restart". If they are, it *should* work the next
18:27<sooperkuh>time you log in. Unless something is broken : )
18:27<drgeb>I just pulled that up as u mentioned it! and I got : "could not connect to the session manager"
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18:29<sooperkuh>I've got a "x-session-manager" running
18:29<sooperkuh>don't know if it helps to start it afterwards, though.
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18:31<sooperkuh>somehow it seems you have fucked up your session settings. might even help to login back with "failsafe gnome", if your gdm has that
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18:32<drgeb>ok I can log into failsafe mode but no idea how to then copy this or clean out the standard mode
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18:33<sooperkuh>i think it should help to simply save your session in failsafe mode
18:33<sooperkuh>System menu "Preferences" "Sessions"
18:33<drgeb>sooperkuh how do you do this
18:34<sooperkuh>Session Options / Remember currently running applications
18:34<sooperkuh>I'm not sure, but I think this should be enough
18:36<drgeb>ok! ok
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18:41<sooperkuh>drgeb: did it work?
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18:56<TwistedEmo>can someone tell me how to find my IP address on debian?
18:56<lupine>ifconfig -a
18:56<lupine>that'll show /all/ your ip addresses
18:56<TwistedEmo>including my public ip right?
18:56<lupine>well, yes
18:56<lupine>there's all ip [-4 |-6] addr show
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18:57<lupine>which I personally prefer
18:57<TwistedEmo>whats the command?
18:57<TwistedEmo>all ip
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18:59<TwistedEmo>whats the Bcast ip mean?
18:59<lupine>that's the broadcast IP of your subnet
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19:00<lupine>if you don't know what a broadcast IP is, you might want to read up on elementary networking
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19:00<TwistedEmo>whats the diff between that and my inet address?
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19:01<lupine>one is unicast. the other is multicast
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19:02<yoshi>hey a little help here guys
19:02<yoshi>I'm a little lost
19:02<yoshi>How do you use this thing?
19:02<yoshi>I'm testing some software
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19:03<yoshi>Are you guys getting this?
19:03<yoshi>Or am I just blabbering into space?
19:03<yoshi>please just give me some kind of response
19:03<TwistedEmo>thank you lupine i appriciate it =)
19:04<lupine>yoshi: we can't hear a word you're saying
19:04<lupine>so please continue to spam the channel, thanks
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19:05<shze>i'm trying to boot a laptop with bad memory at 2.1MB, therefore it stops while uncompressing the kernel. how can i get it running?
19:05<lupine>yoshi: and direct your questions to the channel, not to an individual. also, PMs are very bad form
19:05<lupine>especially as I'm off to bed. right now.
19:06<shze>can i force the kernel or grub to uncompress the kernel at another physical location in ram?
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19:10<shze>can i use the relocatable kernel feature for that?
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19:11<shze>or can somebody direct me to some maybe more appropriate place to ask?
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19:14<sooperkuh>shze: there are badmem patches
19:15<sooperkuh>you have to run memtest86 to find out the bad locations (will only work if some specific locations are affected)
19:15<shze>sooperkuh: can i get these into the installer?
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19:16<shze>sooperkuh, i ran memtest86 already
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19:16<sooperkuh>have never tried it, though
19:17<sooperkuh>maybe it would be easier to swap out the memory for installing (or swap the harddisk out)
19:17<shze>sooperkuh, i found a few bad locations, in two areas
19:18<shze>can i use also the debian badram kernel patch?
19:18<sooperkuh>hm did not know that a debian patch existed.. probably the better choice
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19:20<bahamat>when I do `apt-get update` it seems to be ignoring my sources listed in sources.list.d, am I doing something wrong?
19:20<diegox>does anybody know how to use csh interpreter with kde???
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19:24<shze>looks like i can create my own d-i disk. thank you, sooperkuh
19:24<sooperkuh>shze: will be a lot of work though
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19:25<sooperkuh>good luck!
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19:25<shze>sooperkuh: i know, i have to read a lot, i dont know much about how this works. if theres a better idea, please tell me
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20:03<bighornram>is there a howto for mp3 ripping in lenny?
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20:34<tazman>hola a todos soy nuevo en esto
20:34<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
20:35<telemachus>lo siento
20:35<telemachus>no hay problema
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20:48<rtmex>Hi, I hope someone can help me. I downloaded a new driver for my network card, (e100 ver 3.17) I compiled and installed with modprobe e100, but when I restart the PC, it loads the old driver, how can I fixed?
20:48<Nemoder>rtmex: edit /etc/modules
20:49<rtmex>I did taht already and add the line e100, but it does not work
20:49<Nemoder>did you remove the old one? perhaps it conflicts
20:49<rtmex>I did, modprob -r e100
20:49<rtmex>modprobe, sorry
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20:49<rtmex>I also renamed the e100.ko old file
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20:51<rtmex>I'm using an initrd file at boot, I don't know it this is a problem
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22:28<user>hello world.
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22:59<drgeb>Hallo SinterKlaas Kapoentje
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23:15<drgeb>How can I tell if my session-manager is running ?
23:15<drgeb>How can I stop and start the session-manager ?
23:19<drgeb>hi ptr
23:19<drgeb>my window manager is completely messed up
23:20<ptr>as I recall, there's some package in debian that allows one to construct skeleton packages that exist solely for the purpose of instructing dpkg that a given piece of software *is* installed, even if it doesn't know about it
23:20<drgeb>and I have no idea how to recover from it for a specific user
23:20<ptr>that was a terrible description
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23:21<drgeb>yep sowwy
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23:21<drgeb>for all users the window manager works fine except my main user that I use everyday
23:22<drgeb>I have no idea how to recover the default and start all over
23:22<drgeb>any idea ?
23:22<ptr>drgeb: what exactly is the problem?
23:22<ptr>and what's the window manager?
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23:23<ptr>for the record, what I was describing (poorly) is equivs
23:24<drgeb>when I boot up I have to manually startup xterm from a non X11 desktop display by exporting the DISPLAY
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23:25<drgeb>once I have this I start gnome-panel and I have most of the default stuff I used to see before
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23:25<drgeb>then I select using beryl-manager to use compiz
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23:26<drgeb>however when I start the gnome-session-properties to save the current settings I get an error taht it can not connect to the session-manager
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23:26<marupa> Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA... means ....bad sector, or failing drive?
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23:43<niru>isn't there any linux driver for Senao SUB362 EXT or it is called NUB362 EXT modem
23:43<niru>the chipset is AR5523 Athreos
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23:47<niru>hi vonnis
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