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00:53<deb>What is the problem with these commands: # ifconfig eth0 netmask up; route add -net netmask eth0. ping says Operation not permitted
00:54<deb>HEY hey hey hey ... any body there there there there...
00:55<peterrooney>deb: well, the ifconfig looks ok to me.
00:55<deb>i think route has problem
00:56<deb>ping works find but ping does not
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00:57<peterrooney>deb: if you've copied and pasted, there's a period instead of a semicolon before `ping'
00:57<deb>that is an English full-stop
00:58<deb>ifconfig and route does not give any error output. only ping says Operation not permitted
00:58<peterrooney>deb: you might want to add a `dev' before `eth0' in your route command
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00:59<deb>SIOCADDRT: File exists
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01:00<deb>route del -net netmask eth0 is it correct to remove existing entry
01:02<deb>But why I need the route command. I don't wish my network to access internet. I wish only the server with modem can access it
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01:04<peterrooney>deb: check your routing table - the route may already be defined
01:04<deb>let me tell you another thing. when I do "# ping" the gnome-network-monitor-applet blinks for ppp0 instead of eth0. it means the request is via eth0.
01:05<deb>Kernel IP routing table
01:05<deb>Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
01:05<deb> UH 0 0 0 ppp0
01:05<deb> U 0 0 0 eth0
01:05<deb> U 0 0 0 eth0
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01:06<peterrooney>deb: the debhelper bot kicks for multi-line pastes.
01:06<deb>sorry for the flood
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01:07<peterrooney>deb: it looks like you already have a route for that network.
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01:08<deb>have you considered: when I do "# ping" the gnome-network-monitor-applet blinks for ppp0 instead of eth0. it means the request is via eth0
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01:09<peterrooney>deb: well, then, i may be well over my head. ppp is -very- new to me.
01:10<deb>ok leave ppp0. just guide me setting routing table. I think the main problem is inside there
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01:11<deb>Will you please translate my routing table into English.
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01:11<peterrooney>deb: i notice you do not have a default route
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01:13<deb>This is the output of "route -n". thats why 'default' is not there. just replace '' by 'default' in the first column under Destination
01:14<peterrooney>deb: ooh, translation challenge ! you should have an entry in there along the lines of 'default and so on'
01:15<deb>no such line here
01:15<peterrooney>deb:oh, i see now why you had no 'default'
01:16<deb>can "route add default eth0" do that
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01:17<o7andrew>howdy all
01:17<peterrooney>deb: man page suggests "route add default gw <ip address>'
01:18<deb>what should be gateway address
01:18<peterrooney>deb: you tell me.
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01:19<deb>I have only two computer on eth0. One computer with modem, using which I am talking to you. From where should the IP come
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01:20<deb>should it be my internet IP address
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01:21<o7andrew>and how can you find your ip address??
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01:21<o7andrew>(i only know ipconfig in windows terminal)
01:21<alex_>k putas
01:22<deb>I know my IP address but the question is that what should be gw address for eth0
01:22<alex_>i cant use frost wire can some one help me?
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01:23<alex_>i cant use frost wire can some one help me?
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01:23<simonrvn>alex_: great way to not get help. have a nice day/evening
01:23<peterrooney>the gw address for eth0 should be the address of the machine between eth0 and the rest of the network
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01:24<deb>the computer having problem is itself that machine between the network and the internet
01:24<peterrooney>deb: if you want eth0 to connect to the rest of the internet, the ; if you want to connect to the subnetwork, the address
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01:25<deb>suppose i don't wish to access the internet from within the network
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01:25<deb>only the computer with dialup-modem should be able to access internet
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01:26<o7andrew>As root do this:
01:26<o7andrew>netstat -nr
01:26<o7andrew>You should see the gateway address.
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01:27<deb>o7andrew: it is my internet IP
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01:31<o7andrew>ifconfig -a ??
01:32<o7andrew>(don't ask me how to interpret the results there)
01:33<o7andrew>(it might be eth0 's inet address?)
01:33<o7andrew>(it's changed for me, so)
01:34<deb>that is
01:34<deb>does it makes any sense that eth0 is a gateway for itself
01:35<o7andrew>i am noob, just googled, someone else help maybe?
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01:36<o7andrew>(i'm currently doing A+ at school, not yet onto Network+)
01:37<deb>I have done "route add default gw eth0". As a result the internet also stopped working. Even "ping" says "unknown host"
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01:41<valdyn>deb: no, that's silly
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01:46<deb>valdyn: then why should "route add default gw eth0" after "ifconfig eth0 netmask up"
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03:01<daffytheduck>Hi Im having trouble booting a new install ive added the kernel image and the init image to a grub boot floppy and all the ifor is corrext can anyone help thnx
03:02<mohkohn>if I apt-cdrom add will apt use the cd's whereever possible or will it always go to the online sources?
03:02<mohkohn>ie will apt-cdrom add help me given I have a slow internet connection?
03:03<daffytheduck>uncomment out the web sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
03:03<daffytheduck>and itll only use the cd
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03:03<daffytheduck>comment out the web sources
03:04<mohkohn>ok. But if left in does apt 'prefer' the web sources or does it go to the fastest source?
03:05<daffytheduck>im not sure but i think apt-cdrom add should just fix the whole lot up
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03:05<daffytheduck>backup your sources.list file
03:05<risjh>hi, can someone help me setup my wireless?
03:06<daffytheduck>cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
03:06<daffytheduck>then run the apt-cdrom command
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03:07<daffytheduck>but remove all the contents of the file before u do so so u dont have all the sources in it
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03:10<o7andrew>hey y'all
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03:11<thep>i think apt prefers faster source (i.e. file:// and cdrom over ftp/http). but if that's not the case, just move your preferred source line up. what comes first is preferred.
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03:13<mohkohn>thanks daffy. that will speed things up.
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03:13<daffytheduck>did u read what thep said
03:13<daffytheduck>the cdrom source may take precedence
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03:14<daffytheduck>risjh what type of wireless network card to u have
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04:00<daffytheduck>hi Im getting file not found errors from grub and I know Ive got the right files written to it ie the partition is on the first device but is the second partition hd0,1 and ive checked the naming of the image and init files can anyone help thnx
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04:14<dondelelcaro>yang: so a2dismod php4;
04:14<yang>why disable?
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04:14<dwu>Am... I having double vision?
04:14<yang>dondelelcaro: then the apache will refuse to reload
04:15<dondelelcaro>yang: because you no longer have libapache2-mod-php4 installed
04:15<dondelelcaro>yang: and no, it won't.
04:15<yang>you know this typo3 package manual explains only how it works with php4
04:16<dondelelcaro>hopefully it works for php5 too; if not, file bugs
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04:19<thep>daffytheduck: your /boot/grub/ looks right?
04:20<daffytheduck>ive got four devices
04:20<daffytheduck>and all the devices are listed in it
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04:22<thep>probably, try 'e' to edit, and use tab-completion to see if the filename is still completed?
04:23<daffytheduck>but ive noticed that when i chroot into the new install there are no corresponding /dev files for it but i suppose that is handdles by udev
04:24<daffytheduck>why wouldnt they be completed
04:25<thep>i don't know. just in case it can give some ideas. :)
04:25<daffytheduck>ill logout and try it out
04:25<daffytheduck>ill be back lol
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04:37<daffytheduck>its a no go it all looks right to me the device is hd0,1 that coressponds to /dev/sda2 and the image files are named correctly the only thing i can think of is that /dev files are not being generated for the disks on the system
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04:41<mohkohn>it is 2007 and I have to push the power button to shutdown my laptop.
04:41<daffytheduck>try a hammer
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04:44<daffytheduck>sudo init 0
04:45<thep>daffytheduck: do you have separate /boot partition?
04:46<daffytheduck>im wondering if the kernel_image.conf file will help me out with making sure it boots from a floppy
04:46<daffytheduck>its all on the one
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04:47<daffytheduck>i put the line in the conf file do_bootfloppy = Yes
04:47<daffytheduck>but im unsure of the effects
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04:47<daffytheduck>ill give it a go
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04:52<mohkohn>why can't my laptop shutdown in etch? It works fine with zenwalk.
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04:54<streuner>mohkohn: cat /proc/version
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04:55<mohkohn>struener this is a custom kernel. But I had the same problem with the default kernel
04:55<mohkohn>gentoo and zenwalk work fine.
04:55<streuner>Debian too :-)
04:55<mohkohn>Slackware and Etch both do not powerdown
04:56<mohkohn>streuner, I mean on this laptop :)
04:56<streuner>most likely a ACPI thingie
04:58<mohkohn>i think too.
04:58<mohkohn>battstat is borked
04:58<mohkohn>acpi -V shows thermal and ac addaptor
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05:00<mohkohn>this is frustrating as hell. I have everything else working. wireless, encrypted root partition, etc.
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05:01<mohkohn>I do have the gentoo livecd handy. would looking at the lsmod do any there?
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05:15<mohkohn>this problem shutting down is related to xorg. xorg just will not shutdown
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05:31<daffytheduck>hi Ive got not device files for the disks on my system in /dev on a new install and i cant boot the new system can anyone help thanx
05:31<tarelerulz>I am connected via my eth port to my cable modem . I can use irc , use synaptic ,but web pages time out . The only one that seem to work are the one on my bookmark . anyone have any idea what I can do
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05:41<streuner>dpkg, test
05:41<dpkg>Test Failed.
05:42<test>sorry, just testing my new installation
05:42<padski>is there a #test ?
05:42<daffytheduck>testing testing
05:42<streuner>padski: /list #test
05:42<test>I miss the nicklist on my xchat
05:42<daffytheduck>testing will robinson
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05:43<daffytheduck>ive just run MAKDEV and it wont create dev files for the disks
05:44<padski>streuner: thanks
05:45<daffytheduck>how do u create a device file by hand is it just >name
05:46<streuner>udev installed?
05:46<streuner>otherwise "man MAKEDEV"
05:47<daffytheduck>ive run MAKEDEV
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05:48<daffytheduck>is udev under a package name or is it installed by the name udev
05:48<streuner>daffytheduck: dpkg -l udev
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05:50<daffytheduck>i think i have it though because i have man pages for it
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05:52<daffytheduck>isnt udev installed by default in debootstrap install
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05:56<streuner>almost nothing is installed via debootstrap
05:56<lupine>including the kernel :D
05:56<lupine>udev is pretty useless without that
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06:11<Jeffro>Hey there, I just added a new hard drive in my debian installation and I need to know how to make it ready for use. I want to use all space and be able to make a sort of directory for it if possible, any help?
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06:13<Jeffro>So how do I do that?
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06:15<Jeffro>Please help :)
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06:23<Jeffro>Ok i got the hd installed, now how do I give my user writing priveleges on my mounted dir (added it to fstab)
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06:26<Jeffro>OMG it doesnt mount
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06:27<dpkg>To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id"
06:27<lupine>unless it's ext3?
06:27<lupine>context, man!
06:29<Jeffro>it is ext3 :)
06:32<lupine>then you just need to mount it somewhere - anywhere
06:33<Jeffro>But i dont want to mount it manually every time :P
06:33<Jeffro>so i added it to fstab
06:33<lupine>then put auto in the fstab options
06:33<Jeffro>i want my user to have access :)
06:33<petemc>chown the mount point
06:33<lupine>if auto is in the options, it's mounted at boot time
06:33<Jeffro>this is what the internet told me
06:33<Jeffro>-> /dev/hdd1 /hd2 ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
06:34<Jeffro>so if i add auto will i be able to upload stuff without logging in to root?
06:34<Jeffro>I just tested it
06:35<Jeffro>I have to be root to upload images there -,-
06:35<lupine>does your user have a directory on the partition?
06:35<petemc>Jeffro: man chown
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06:37<Jeffro>group file :S
06:37<petemc>chown jeffro /hd2
06:37<lupine>or you could just umask it 000 if you're lazy
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06:38<petemc>you only need to chown it once..
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06:38<Jeffro>did it
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06:38<Jeffro>now logging in with my user :)
06:38<Jeffro>k uploading works
06:39<Jeffro>now reboot and see :)
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06:39<Jeffro>Is there also a easy way to make a simboilic link?
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06:39<Jeffro>so I can have /home/jeffro/hd2 point to /hd2 ?
06:39<petemc>ln -s target linkname
06:40<petemc>you could as easily mount that partition to /home/jeffro/hd2
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06:40<lupine>lol, reboot
06:40<Jeffro>hard link not allowed for directory
06:41<lupine>great program, terrible modus operandi
06:41<lupine>ln -s
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06:41<Jeffro>ln: creating symbolic link `hd2/hd2' to `/hd2': Toegang geweigerd
06:42<petemc>you need to start thinking before asking questions on irc
06:42<lupine>s/before asking questions on irc//
06:42<Jeffro>I know what it means
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06:43<Jeffro>But i have ownership of the directory
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06:45<Jeffro>made a wrong links
06:45<Jeffro>But i can't delete it
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06:45<Jeffro>even as root :/
06:45<KeDaO>hi all! anybody know why when i try to compile i always receive that error: ./ /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Denied Access (i do it as root) Debian 4.0 etch
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06:49<Jeffro>I know i think?
06:49<Jeffro>KeDaO do sh
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06:51<seanius>yang: istr problems with typo3 and the etch version of php5, but i think later versions of php5 work fine
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06:53<KeDaO>lets try Jeffro, but the error alwais appears for example when i do make something (just not in kernel compiling but in the rest yes)
06:54<Jeffro>KeDaO: Yeah ok but as it is a sh script you execute it like this: sh
06:54<Jeffro>Thats why you can't do ./ as it is not a binary :)
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06:58<KeDaO>Jeffro you dont know xd mv
06:58<KeDaO>thunder:/home/javi/Desktop/Descargas# sh
06:58<KeDaO> ./ /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permiso denegado
06:58<KeDaO>Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.bY6771
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07:04<KeDaO>Jeffro i didnt do a ./xxx i did like you saied but always sais "permission denied, bad interpreter"
07:04<Jeffro>thats because you need to do sh right?
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07:07<KeDaO>jeffro i paste it in a private for see all the output
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07:16<dpkg>[ru] Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @
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07:16<dpkg>nl is The Netherlands. Voor Nederlandstalige hulp met debian kunt U terecht in #debian-nl. For help with debian in Dutch, you can join #debian-nl.
07:17<oxynet>i would like to know how can i log the boot information on my hd??
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07:17<padski>oxynet: the boot information ?
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07:18<oxynet>padski, yes
07:18<oxynet>what is loading, etc etc
07:19<oxynet>noflash, couldn´t be, because i would like do this to see what problem is ocurring in the boot, appears many erros about modules.dep, but is so fast that i can´t see anything more, so i would like to save this information to verify
07:20<Jeffro>2) Use Control-S during startup to pause the display of messages
07:20<Jeffro>scrolling past. Control-S pauses, Control-Q resumes.
07:20<Jeffro>try that
07:20<oxynet>hmm, heheh, thanks
07:20<Jeffro>yw ;)
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07:21<Jeffro>damnit, transfering 7 gig files over to my debian installation takes time lol
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07:25<oxynet>Jeffro, the option Contro+S and Control+Q doesn´t work =\
07:25<Jeffro>Hmm google some
07:25<oxynet>yes, thanks
07:25<x-stream>can anyone tell me the name of te german debian channel, because my english is poor
07:26<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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07:37<mansour>how can i check bad sectors in running server ?
07:38<sep>badblocks, but i would not do that. i would atlest take a decent backup first
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07:44<oxynet>what could be that is doing my Debian lock, i´m using a notebook, with noapic and nolapic kernel options
07:45<oxynet>but if i press the power button the notebook is shuttdown ok, but nothing work, only mouse, but i can´t change to terminal or open another program
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08:07<oxynet>why when my Debian is booting appears this to me
08:07<oxynet>request_module: runaway loop modprobe net-pf-1
08:07<oxynet>modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.23/modules.dep: No such file or diretory
08:08<oxynet>and many other line with this information
08:08<oxynet>many line
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08:15<mohd>is nvidia 3d driver still not available in testing?
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08:21<oxynet>nobody know what could be?
08:22<lupine>oxynet: sounds like you're running a custom kernel to me
08:23<oxynet>lupine, yes i´m
08:23<lupine>so fix whatever daft error you made, and all should be well
08:23<dwu>oxynet: Try running depmod as root; see manpage.
08:23<oxynet>hmm ok
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09:14<Guest333>Hi, I install Fastcgi2.4.6 on Apache 2.2.6 but I Run fastcgi. Has http 500 error
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09:16<jame298>On error_log is [Mon Nov 26 22:15:55 2007] [error] [client] FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server "/var/www/fcgi/tiny-cgi.fcgi", referer: http://localhost/fcgi/
09:16<jame298>[Mon Nov 26 22:15:55 2007] [warn] FastCGI: (dynamic) server "/var/www/fcgi/tiny-cgi.fcgi" has failed to remain running for 30 seconds given 3 attempts, its restart interval has been backed off to 600 seconds
09:17<jame298>Hi !!
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09:18<jame298>I think is my configure error..... help me... I'm the first to install fastcgi...
09:18<dpkg>i guess cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读
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09:19<padski>jame298: what debian release ?
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09:20<jame298>padski: etch
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09:21<padski>jame298: huh ? different versions on my etch here ?
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09:22<jame298>padski: etch 4.0
09:22<jame298>padsk: can you give me you fastcgi config?
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09:23<padski>jame298: here I see apache 2.2.3-4+etch1 and libapache2-mod-fastcgi 2.4.2-8
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09:24<padski>dpkg: test
09:24<dpkg>Test Failed.
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09:24<jame298>padski: I'm sorry... I'm apache 2.2.6 and I use source to install mod_fastcgi 2.4.6
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09:28<padski>jame298: where does the tiny-cgi prog come from ?
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09:29<gecew>hi all
09:30<gecew>i use kopete now and i am new user
09:30<gecew>i am noob :(
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09:30<gecew>how to connect suse room
09:30<jame298>padski: I write a cgi app to run
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09:31<padski>jame298: and does it keep running, or is the error message correct ?
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09:32<gecew>anybody help pls
09:32<padski>gecew: google suse irc
09:32<jame298>padski : http 500 error , the cgi app not error message , I run it to cgi is success
09:32<JasonS>gecew: /join #suse
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09:33<padski>jame298: do you understand fastcgi ?
09:33<padski>jame298: "Instead of creating a new process for every request, FastCGI can use a single persistent process which handles many requests over its lifetime." see
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09:35<jame298>I'm think is like cgi app...
09:35<padski>jame298: maybe you are thinking of cgi
09:35<jame298>padski : ye..
09:36<jame298>padski: I think is like cgi....
09:36<padski>jame298: you are welcome :-)
09:36<jame298>padski : thanks a lot!
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10:04<padski>to remove every other line feed in sed ...
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10:08<a2n>aleric: my debian sistem very low in booting, what wrong
10:09<a2n>or any one please
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10:11<a2n>haloo, any body read my problem
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10:13<xurax>hmm when i start xchat with the terminal
10:13<xurax>icant close the terminal without loosing xchat
10:13<xurax>wrong channel:-)
10:13<Nemoder>ctrl-z, bg
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10:18<supaman>hey, I have a sid chroot here and I have accessed it through both "su" and "sudo" .. in the su than when I execute "octave -q -H --no-site-file --eval "pkg('rebuild');" " it works fine but when I do this inside the sudo chroot then I get "error: No such file or directory" by some function .. dont know which
10:19<Solver>cdlu: I don't like Howard at all and I find that article overly negative about both Aus and Howard :)
10:19<cdlu>ECHAN :)
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10:19<Mikoludin>quick question, which kernel version does debian4.0 etch has as default?
10:19<supaman>any ideas of why this happens?
10:20<Mikoludin>I'm on gentoo now and it has to be over 2.6.19-rc3 for my sub devices to work
10:20<Mikoludin>thanks in advance
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10:21<supaman>Mikoludin: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 ships with kernel version 2.6.18 for all architectures;
10:21<supaman>Mikoludin: this says in the release notes for etch
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10:22<Mikoludin>thanks supaman
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10:26<padski>got it ... sed '/$/N;s/\n//'
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10:32<Pedro_81>hi im having some problems with xine? ("xine engine error demuxer not found")
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10:32<Pedro_81>any knows how to resolve this problem?
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10:34<Pedro_81>im having some problems with xine? ("xine engine error demuxer not found")
10:34<Pedro_81>any knows how to resolve this problem?
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10:36<supaman>Pedro_81: what are you trying to play with xine when you get this error?
10:36<Pedro_81>one avi divx file
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10:36<Pedro_81>some movies run just fine
10:37<supaman>Pedro_81: have you installed the right codecs for it?
10:37<Pedro_81>others give me that error
10:37<EmleyMoor>I seem to have lost access to my second sound card after a reboot
10:37<Donno>anybody who have experienced difficulties installing vlc in testing?
10:37<Pedro_81>yes i alread ve installed the win32 codecs
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10:37<EmleyMoor>Priority is being given to snd-bt87x over it
10:37<Pedro_81>and divx codecs
10:38<EmleyMoor>My desired order statements are unaffected (in /etc/modprobe,d/alsa-base
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10:39<gsimmons_>Donno: 'vlc' currently isn't available in testing. You would need to backport it from unstable.
10:39<Donno>could you please explain how i do that?
10:39<gsimmons_>!tell Donno -about simple sid backport
10:40<Donno>ok thanks
10:41<Pedro_81>xine engine error !!!!!
10:41<supaman>Pedro_81: you sure those movies are legit?
10:41<supaman>Pedro_81: that a player can at all play them?
10:41<Pedro_81>i ve downloaded by torretns
10:41<supaman>Pedro_81: well, then the movies are probably broken
10:41<supaman>some DRM stuff or something
10:42<Pedro_81>because i can watch them by windows
10:42<Pedro_81>should be something related to divx codecs
10:43<Pedro_81>i think xine is not reconezing the divx codecs
10:43<supaman>Pedro_81: try apt-cache search divx and install some of the things that come up there
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10:44<supaman>Pedro_81: try another video player like mplayer or vlc
10:45<Pedro_81>mplayer im having problems in instaling
10:45<Pedro_81>and vlc has poor quality
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10:47<tmolodyn>lu ^
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10:48<Molo>lu zll ^
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10:48<Molo>héhé ^
10:48<JaWs>on aten
10:48<JaWs>ke kelkun dotre ariv
10:48<Molo>tagazok !
10:48<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur ou French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on or
10:48<Molo>lol c ki supaman
10:48<JaWs>ya ki la ?
10:49<JaWs>on est ke d"u
10:49<JaWs>c ki supaman?
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10:49<Molo>c ki
10:49<JaWs>c ki anibal ?
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10:50<JaWs>c ki ?
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10:51<jcamacho_>ya qui la ?
10:51<jcamacho_>jesus le nazi
10:51<jesus>not inglis
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10:51<Molo>Yoh !!
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10:51<jack>yo !!!
10:52<Molo>c ki jack
10:52<jack>c julie
10:52<JaWs>vive l'html
10:52<dpkg>I'm not your csh prompt!
10:52<jesus>nazi sera tu padre
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10:53<azeem>jesus: huh?
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10:53<Partie>lu ^
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10:53<JaWs>ya qui içi?
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10:55<jesus>ti parlas farncais?
10:55<azeem>jesus: this is an english channel
10:56<azeem>jesus: if you get harrassed by random people call the ops via the "!ops <reason>" command
10:56<jesus>ya lo se
10:56<azeem>they all left now
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11:06<julie>ca va??
11:06<mvachero>c max
11:06<jEff94>ca va,
11:06<julie>c tro bien
11:06<mvachero>oui et toi?
11:06<julie>ca va trankil
11:06<mvachero>commen on change son nom
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11:06<julie>di o otr de se connecté ca va ètre marran
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11:06<mvachero>y artive
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11:06<jEff94>revient max
11:07<jEff94>yeah xavier
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11:07<julie>c tro bien
11:07<Xavier>Yeah : D
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11:07<Morvy>hey j'suis sur le chat aussi :p
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11:07<jEff94>salut rémi
11:07<cdlu>#debian-fr vien de se démenager? :)
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11:07<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur ou French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on or
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11:07<azeem>cdlu: they popped up earlier as well
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11:08<cdlu>azeem, I see. :)
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11:09<YannickP>Some foolish students...
11:09<themill>azeem: my french isn't that great, but I'm guessing a reading age of about 5 from what I've seen... :)
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11:09<azeem>no, it's regular french irc slang
11:09<cdlu>their french is perfectly normal, not juvenile
11:10<themill>cldu, azeem: and here I was looking aiming a nice put down....
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11:10<YannickP>themill: I agree with you, but I'd say 8
11:10<themill>but most french speakers can manage more than 2 words per line...
11:11<cdlu>it's difficult to take over a channel in full sentences.
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11:30<monra>sorry for asking but does anybody know a function in C that takes a username and returns the hash of the password of the user?
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11:40<nohelia>alguien para hab
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11:41<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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11:41<themill>he's gone
11:41<padski>I saw :-)
11:41<padski>after I hit CR
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11:42<dpkg>Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help.
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11:43<padski>heh :-)
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11:51<avu> \o\
11:51<avu>erm, wrong channel, obviously :)
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12:01<Ozafy>Hi, I have a bit of a problem, and no clue where to start :) My server just stops responding to everything after about a day. The logs look clear and I can't really seem to find anything. I'm quite stumped and have no idea where to start looking
12:02<TopQuark>does the console go blank? or does it just hang in place with no errors?
12:02<Ozafy>well, i'm usually not logged in, the remote console doesn't respond, and neither does ssh'ing
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12:03<Ozafy>all services that run stop responding aswell
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12:03<Ozafy>the only option i have is rebooting
12:03<Ozafy>after which everything seems fine
12:03<TopQuark>does ping respond? no local console on the machine to look for messages on?
12:03<Ozafy>i'm quite new to linux though, i've been working with it for a few years, but never in resolving problems
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12:04<TopQuark>most likely it's a hardware problem
12:04<Ozafy>no ping, and the console doesn't respond
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12:04<TopQuark>there are some cases where driver bugs can trigger hardware failures, but usually problems like this are completely unrelated to the software
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12:05<TopQuark>first thing i'd check is memory
12:05<TopQuark>run memtest86
12:05<TopQuark>install memtest86+ package, then reboot - you should see a memtest option in the grub menu
12:05<TopQuark>select it, let it run for 15 minutes or so, make sure it doesn't find anything
12:06<Ozafy>could it be the kernel? i have no real clue about them, i know their function, but not how they work, thing is i have the 2.6.18-4-686, but it's an AMD processor, no idea if that could be anything :)
12:06<Ozafy>and i'll try the memtest
12:07<TopQuark>it's possible, but highly unlikely it's related to the kernel...
12:07<TopQuark>is this a name-brand machine or home-built?
12:07<Ozafy>well, it's just because that kernel says it's for intel machines, and i have an amd opteron
12:08<Ozafy>it's in a serverpark by a well known hosting company
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12:08<TopQuark>amd's are compatible with the intel kernels... depending on which exact processor, you could try switching to the amd64 release of debian, but that requires a reinstall
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12:09<Ozafy>well, I reckon it's not that then
12:09<Ozafy>it ran fine for about 3 months
12:09<TopQuark>yeah, i doubt it
12:09<TopQuark>it's possible it's related to cooling
12:09<TopQuark>you could try installing lmsensors/xsensors and monitoring temperatures, etc
12:10<TopQuark>flaky power can also cause similar failures, but that's unlikely if it's in a decent server room
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12:12<Ozafy>how would I make it boot with memtest? login on the remote console during boot?
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12:14<mzhang>dli: there??
12:14<TopQuark>what kinda remote console is it?
12:14<TopQuark>built into the bios? or a software remote console?
12:15<Ozafy>I'm not sure
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12:18<hathe>Ozafy: start memtest from a livecd
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12:18<Ozafy>I don't have phisical access to the machine i'm afraid
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12:18<Ozafy>just ssh and the remote console
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12:19<hathe>Ozafy: you cannot run memtest when a OS is running
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12:20<TopQuark>some machines have a serial remote console
12:20<TopQuark>or maybe even a network remote console
12:21<TopQuark>that is run by the bios
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12:21<TopQuark>if that is the case for your machine, then you should be able to stay connected to your machine when you reboot
12:22<TopQuark> should be able to edit bios settings and see the grub menu, for example
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12:22<Ozafy>well, it says i should be able to see boot messages
12:22<TopQuark>so you should be able to reboot the machine and when grub (or lilo) loads, you should be able to run memtest
12:22<Ozafy>i'll give that a go
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12:23<TopQuark>if that doesn't find anything, i'd suggest calling them and asking them to check out the machine - check for obvious things like loose power cables, dead fans, really hot output temperatures, etc
12:24<TopQuark>and if they don't find anything, monitor your sensors and syslogs (maybe even dump syslog to another machine), and watch for unusual stuff
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12:29<Ozafy>Hmm, it seems to have stopped at restarting system
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12:32<cloakable>Hi, I'm using Etch, and I can't get kde-guidance-powermanager to control my laptop's cpu govenor. Can anyone help?
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12:34<padski>"A power management applet to indicate battery levels and perform hibernate or suspend using HAL"
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12:35<padski>cloakable: and you want to do the "perform hibernate or suspend" bit ?
12:36<Ozafy>Well, the machine stopped responding now, and didn't actually reboot :/
12:36<padski>cloakable: or does it do more than that ?
12:36<cloakable>padski: That works straight out of the box. Close lid, suspends. Open, unsespends. But it's also meant to control cpufreq too.
12:37<cloakable>padski: Everything it's intended to do, it's doing, apart from the cpufreq, which it's just monitoring, not controlling.
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12:38<padski>cloakable: but its using HAL to do it ?
12:38<cloakable>padski: Yus
12:39<cloakable>padski: It uses HAL to do everything.
12:39<padski>cloakable: I see in the changelog at the upstream homepage: "Add menu to choose CPU frequency policy manually"
12:40<padski>cloakable: so that went into 0.8, but the version in etch is 0.7 ?
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12:40<cloakable>Ahh, c**p
12:40<padski>cloakable: easily done
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12:40<cloakable>0.42 in etch :/
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12:41<padski>cloakable: I'm seeing Version: 0.7.0-1
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12:42<cloakable>padski: Yeah, in the deb version. In the applet it says 0.42
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12:43<cloakable>padski: Hmmm, lenny had 0.8, though.
12:43<padski>cloakable: I was about to say ...
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12:43<padski>cloakable: perhaps it will backport easily
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12:44<cloakable>padski: I was just about to ask that :)
12:44<Ozafy>Hmm, the machine's dead now, better call up the company i guess :p
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12:44<Ozafy>oh, nvm!
12:44<cloakable>padski: It's not on though.
12:44<padski>dpkg tell cloackable about simple sid backport
12:44<Ozafy>It booted, but I didn't get the dootmenu
12:44<azeem>padski: ENICK
12:45<padski>azeem: thanks!
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12:45<padski>dpkg tell cloakable about simple sid backport
12:45<cloakable>padski: TY.
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12:46<padski>cloakable: good luck with that. I have no idea whether it will be easy or not.
12:47<cloakable>padski: Nor I :)
12:48<padski>cloakable: quietly hoping. the changelog didn't look too drastic
12:48<cloakable>Bam, dead in the water xD
12:48<cloakable>E: Build-Depends dependency for kde-guidance cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package python-support can satisfy version requirements
12:48<cloakable>I may just dist-upgrade to lenny :P
12:49<padski>cloakable: I beleive build-depends are sometimes more conservative than they need to be
12:50<cloakable>padski: Doesn't stop apt-get from stopping, though :)
12:51<padski>cloakable: if you were able to establish from the upstream resources that it would in fact work you could modify the packaging to match. or sometimes the backported dependencies are few.
12:51<cloakable>Mmhm. Or dist-upgrade :P
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12:53<padski>cloakable: possibly a better option :-)
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12:53<cloakable>padski: Certainly more supportable than scattering backported packages over my HDD :)
12:54<cloakable>My setup's weird enough as it is :P
12:54<mzhang_>what to use for "-march" in a g++ Makefile for x64 C2D system?
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12:54<Ozafy>TopQuark: looks like it's the hd dieing, thanks for your help :)
12:55[~]cloakable runs sed -i s/etch/lenny/ /etc/apt/sources.list
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12:57<cloakable>Is it just me, or is being slightly slow?
12:57<cloakable>Ahh, there it is
12:58<cloakable>462 updated packages available :) joy
12:58<padski>cloakable: :-)
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12:59<cloakable>padski: It'll take 392MB more of my disk space. I bet XP > vista 'upgraders' wish they could say that
13:00<cloakable>And will take 20mins on my pipe :P
13:00<cloakable>Yay for debian and simple dist-upgrading!
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13:05<cloakable>25% downloaded :D
13:06<cloakable>I like how krita-data is larger than the kernel image :P
13:07<padski>cloakable: enjoy!
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13:09<Lawliot>open joy
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13:15<TopQuark>Ozafy: No prob. Glad I could help :)
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13:16<cloakable>Downloading package 300!!!!!!!
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13:38<RandomJohn>Hi, there
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13:39<RandomJohn>today I'm in Thememanagement for KDe on my debian/lenny... i tried Kooldock, some here using this?
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13:40<RandomJohn>issue is, that kooldock crashes just after starting the crash handler.. kind of ironic tho
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14:19<devik>unstable is in sources, apt-get install libboost-dev/unstable was on but apt-get install libboost-serialization-dev/unstable said: libboost-serialization-dev: Depends: libboost-serialization1.34.1 (= 1.34.1-2) but it is not going to be installed, but it IS here (dpkg said), any hints please ?
14:19<devik>sorry, it is etch instalation on amd64
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14:22<jenipapo>hi all
14:24<oxynet>anybody can help me?? i have a notebook, an HP dv6308NR, and all the time the notebook is locked
14:24<oxynet>i try to recompile the kernel and manythings else, but nothing changes
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14:25<oxynet>i try use noapic, nolapic, noirqpool, irqpool, but nothing works
14:25<oxynet>anybody can help me?
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14:25<cahoot>the debian kernels don't work?
14:26<oxynet>cahoot, no
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14:26<oxynet>and on windows xp everything is ok, but on debian no
14:27<cahoot>oxynet: hangs at boot? at a specifik step - like 'Timer ...' ?
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14:27<oxynet>no, they book ok, start gnome ok, but whem i´m working, the hangs
14:28<oxynet>but the clock and mouse work
14:28<cahoot>and obiously you have managed to compile kernels
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14:29<oxynet>yes, but if i boot with original kernel, the samething happens
14:30<jenipapo>I try to mount a ntfs partition
14:30<cahoot>oxynet: ok I've got a dv9000 that tends to refuse to boot so...
14:30<jenipapo>While root, its oh
14:30<jenipapo>as a simple user cant mount
14:30<jenipapo>dev/hda6 /media/data ntfs-3g rw,users,exec,noauto,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=000 0 0
14:30<jenipapo>somebody can help ?
14:31<oxynet>cahoot, dv 9000, dv6000 and dv2000 is almost the same machine, the hardware is almost the same
14:31<cahoot>sudo mount?
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14:31<jenipapo>su - yes
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14:31<oxynet>cahoot, on your dv9000, didn´t you got this problem?
14:32<jenipapo>chf@youpi:~$ mount /media/data/
14:32<jenipapo>Error opening partition device: Permission non accordée
14:32<cahoot>oxynet: I got so tired of it that I purchased a lenovo t61 - it 'just works' hibernation and all
14:33<cahoot>oxynet: you have the latest possible bios?
14:33<oxynet>could i sell this and buy a lenovo, but i can´t =\
14:33<oxynet>yes i have
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14:33<oxynet>is the last bios that HP offers me
14:33<jenipapo>nobody ca help ?
14:34<oxynet>cahoot your dv9000 was AMD or Intel processor?
14:34<cahoot>jenipapo: try to use sudo
14:34<cahoot>oxynet: amd64
14:35<oxynet>yes, mine too, but i have a friend that has a dv2000 with core 2 duo, with ubuntu, and everyghing works fine
14:36<cahoot>oxynet: this lenova has a core2duo and is definitely not slower than the amd
14:36<simonrvn>probably some screwed hardware that linux exposes and windows patched over
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14:37<cahoot>that *is* a rather limited comfort
14:38<oxynet>cahoot, thanks a lot, i will try something else that i didn´t yet
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14:39<nix>anyone know where the PATH variable is defined? I looked up in /etc/profile ~/.profile but couldn't find it..
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14:41<flami>Hi , im trying to setup rsync to fetch somethng from an scp server every day , in order to do that i need to automate the passord ... i tried with --password-file=<bla> but it still asks me to enter the password ... what can I do about that
14:41<cahoot>use keybased login with empty passphrase?
14:42<flami>its not my server
14:42<flami>I need to have a password
14:43<flami>maybe the password file needs a special formating ? password@user ?
14:44<flami>ohh boy --password-file is for rsync daemons
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14:49<gear_>is there a way to install only specific packages of the testing and unstable repositories, while keeping the system on stable?
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14:51<flami>gear maybe you wanna try backports
14:51<flami>!tell gear about backports
14:51<haole>what is that?
14:51<haole>i changed my nick to haole :D
14:52<flami>!tell haole about backports
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14:52<haole>so, with backports, i can get a compiled packaged for etch from sid, for example?
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14:54<flami>yeah there are ready to use packages out there
14:55<flami>or you compile tehm yourself
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14:55<flami>!tell haole about simple sid backport
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14:56<haole>wow... debian is such a great OS, but it takes time for you to get to know all of its features
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14:57<haole>i would never imagine that all of this is possible... and i read a good part of the documentation
14:57<cmdln>good afternoon
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14:58<cmdln>How do I go about installing debian onto a hardware raid that the base iso does not have support for?
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14:59<hathe>cmdln: try a sid livecd
14:59<haole>thank you flami
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15:00<hathe>cmdln: has better hardware support
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15:03<cmdln>So is there a document that outlines a manual debian install somewhere/
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15:07<flami>aw geez finally this ssh login works automatically ^^
15:07<sdi>hi all
15:07<sdi>kann mir einer sagen was bei ddclient bei schnittstelle rein kommt
15:07<dpkg>deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in (auf, oder - German speaking users please go to (on, or
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16:13<flami>If i want a script to run every day, do I just need to put it in /etc/cron.daily ? ( nothing else ? )
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16:13<simonrvn>you can, if it's system
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16:14<flami>what you eman if its system ?
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16:14<valdyn>flami: if its supposed to run as root
16:14<flami>ok yep
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16:15<simonrvn>well user cron stuff doesn't go in /etc ;)
16:15<flami>thats what its supposed to do
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16:15<flami>it have to give ownership to a user that doesnt exit . so i ru it as root ... ( or is there a problem fetching stuff with rsync when its root )
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16:24<kussik>can someone help me get my sound up
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16:26<kussik>anyone at all?
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16:33<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
16:33<Maulkin>kussik: ^^
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16:35<kussik>well im not a complete noob but im not that familiar with linux either but i just need someone to help me get my sound up, usually after a reinstall i just ran alsaconf and it did the trick but not even after i run that i get the message "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" when i double click my volume control
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16:35<kussik>any help is much appreciated
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16:36<kussik>any advice Maulkin
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16:40<cloakable>Well, I dist-upgraded, and it looks like suspend is broken?
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16:43<cloakable>Hibernate using guidance-power-manager works, but thaw fails, and suspend doesn't even start. I've done some investigating, and pm-utils iw working (kind of). Can anyone give help/advice?
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16:50<Drizzt_DoUrden>hi, is here maybe some amarok/kde developer/maintainer online?
16:53<Drizzt_DoUrden>because the results I get when searching for songs with a playcount of 0 is not what I expect (there are songs with a playcount of 1 among the results)
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16:55<Drizzt_DoUrden>but an amarok developer I've talked to on IRC could not reproduce the behaviour and before I try to work me through collectiondb.cpp I'd like to know whether it's a thing that only happens to m or if it's known or if I should investigate
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17:03<Drizzt_DoUrden>ok, seems not like one is online
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17:09<cloakable>Well, that was full of fail. Hibernate works, but resuming gets me nothing. No tty, no X.
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17:32<cloakable>Well, the hibernate program fails too.
17:32<cloakable>I need to see why suspend and hibernate worked on Etch
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18:04<panagos>how can i empty my apt cache? (/var/cache/apt)
18:04<Ganneff>apt-get clean (or autoclean, whatever you want to happen)
18:05<cloakable>Beat me to it
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18:06<streuner>cloakable: whats the problemß
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18:08<panagos>Ganneff: thanks!
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18:10<cloakable>streuner: Hibernate works (with guidance-power-manager, which uses HAL suspend), but thaw fails. Suspend doesn't even start with guidance-power-manager, but does with pm-suspend, which is the backend for HAL.
18:11<cloakable>I get a black screen with nonresponsive system on thaw from hivernate.
18:12<cloakable>pm-hibernate gives exactly the same response as using guidance-power-manager, unsuprisingly.
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18:14<cloakable>streuner: This is pretty annoying, espicially as suspend and hibernate worked perfectly on etch (I'm on Lenny now)
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18:16<dondelelcaro>panagos: please don't do that.
18:17<panagos>oops! excuse me...
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18:26<linuxfce>how can i force my nvidia card (using proprietary drivers) to always be in performance mode (ie, not scale down clocks when idle)?
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18:27<linuxfce>this would solve a common compiz fusion problem for many people
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18:34<valdyn>linuxfce: how would you know that that is the culprit?
18:35<nnacht>hi how can I fix the mount point of an external hard disk? If it is in NTFS format, I can specify the volume id, but how can I do the similar for an ext3 partition?
18:35<linuxfce>because i have tried absolutely every method. vista's aero interface behaved the exact same way (choppy after being idle for a little bit, then comes back to speed)
18:35<linuxfce>i installed ntune and watched my clocks drop as things were idle
18:36<linuxfce>and then installed rivatuner and forced a constant performance mode
18:36<linuxfce>problem solved
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18:36<linuxfce>so i need to replicate this, force performance mode, in debian
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18:39<linuxfce>im sure thats what the problem is, because of the way it behaves
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18:41<linuxfce>nvidia drops the clocks in half at first, and then if things remain idle it drops in half again. things dont even have to be completely idle on the computer, if you remain working within the same window, clocks are dropped until you move windows around again
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18:43<linuxfce>is anyone reading this?
18:43<linuxfce>i'd kill for a solution
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18:44<witte>linuxfce: is this with the drivers nvidia provided (sorry just entered)
18:44<azeem>linuxfce: that sounds like you should rather ask nvidia about this than us
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18:45<witte>linuxfce: if so, i agree with azeem, they know what their drivers do, nobody else does
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18:49<cloakable>Yay for my laptop getting hw acceleration using the radeon driver
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18:53<grummund>a user can 'touch' a dir that is group writeable, but not 'touch -m' or 'touch -a', why?
18:53<grummund>if it's a security feature, i don't see it
18:55<cloakable>Possibly because you need more control over the dir than simple group permission gives you.
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18:57<grummund>it would not surprise me if this is a (security) feature
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18:58<grummund>on the face of it, it's a bug though.... why allow 'touch' but not 'touch -m' or 'touch -a'
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19:19<panagos>does gpg print brainfuck code while generating keys?
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19:19<panagos>and what does the code mean?
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19:19<azeem>panagos: read the source
19:19<cloakable>panagos: It's a feature. It also prints perl code at the same time.
19:20<cloakable>Did you know /dev/urandom is a good source of perl code?
19:21<cloakable>You pray to tux, then cat from it into a .pl file
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19:23<ben_>hi, i just did a fresh install of debian via the net-install and then upgraded to sid. I didnt check the Desktop environment box during the setup and now im tryin to get xorg working. When i launch startx the only error message i get is "xinit: Server error." there are no logs for X in /var/log. Any ideas?
19:23<azeem>ben_: how did you install x?
19:24<ben_>apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xorg
19:24<hathe>ben_: ever heard of sidux?
19:24<azeem>hathe: how is that relevant here?
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19:25<ben_>yeah, ive tried it and prefer just using debian sid
19:25<hathe>azeem: its easier for him if he wants a running sid system
19:25<azeem>hathe: if somebody wants a running sid system they should either have the brains or leave it be
19:25<azeem>using sidux is not a solution
19:25<azeem>and sidux is off-topic here
19:25<ben_>im running debian sid on my notebook (this computer) and love it, and i was getting sick of gentoo on my desktop so i decided to install debian
19:26<azeem>ben_: did you try the vesa driver?
19:26<ben_>i tried the nv driver
19:26<azeem>ben_: also, did you try starts?
19:26<azeem>eh, startx
19:26<ben_>yeah, it only gives me the error message that i posted above
19:26<azeem>ah, misread
19:27<ben_>i looked for logs in /var/log/ but nothing relevant to X is there
19:27<hathe>azeem: i think you forget that sid users (and so sidux users and devs) do a lot of bugfixing for debian...
19:27<azeem>ben_: well, startx is a shell script, so you could try to add set -v towards the top
19:27<hathe>azeem: but don't want to start a flame war, just think about it
19:28<azeem>then I retract my initial statement and am just saying it's off-topic here
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19:29<ben_>i tried "startx -v" and got the same error. Im looking over the man pages for startx and don't see anything else that would give me more info
19:29<azeem>01:23 < azeem> ben_: well, startx is a shell script, so you could try to add set -v towards the top
19:29<azeem>... of the script
19:29<azeem>not the command-line
19:29<azeem>and that's "set -v"
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19:33<evilmanu>hi all
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19:41<ben_>azeem, when i run startx the first time i get "X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server"
19:41<azeem>ben_: try to run dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
19:41<azeem>and see who is allowed to start X
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19:43<ben_>i set it to root only
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19:44<ben_>anything wrong with that?
19:45<azeem>do you run startx as root?
19:45<ben_>when i try startx again, it fails after "xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $server args"
19:45<azeem>ben_: did you check the bts?
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19:47<dpkg>hmm... bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try or apt-get install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of "sid" are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges
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20:03<panagos>is there an email client with an smtp/pop3/imap console? so that one can view the raw mail traffic
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20:08<evilmanu>I need a help
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20:09<witte>!ask evilmanu
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20:09<evilmanu>is possible write by user on an external hard disk (via usb) fat32?
20:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask
20:09<dpkg>To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id"
20:10<witte>evilmanu: the thing above should help you
20:10<panagos>in general, mount(8) helps
20:10<witte>your /dev/partition will probably be somehting like /dev/sda1
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20:11<evilmanu>is possible to do this with mount only without change
20:11<evilmanu>is possible to do this with mount only without changing fstab?
20:12<witte>evilmanu: yes, just do mount /dev/partition /mount/point -t vfat -o defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002
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20:16-MailProvider:#debian-You have 1 new message. Type /Server mail to read it.
20:17<dwu>!ops MailProvider /noticeing spam
20:17<dpkg>Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: dwu complains about: MailProvider /noticeing spam
20:17<dwu>Cheers, RichiH.
20:17[~]MailProvider rapes dwatson
20:17[~]MailProvider rapes dwu
20:18<dwu>dwatson: You poor thing, you always seem to get in the way of people hating me. Sorry. :(
20:18<RichiH>it seems i was not added as op on oftc
20:18<RichiH>dwu: you will have to wait, sorry :/
20:19[~]MailProvider rapes RichiH
20:19<dwu>RichiH: There's rape going on, darnit :(
20:19[~]RichiH is so happy he has an actual life worth living :)
20:20<dwu>Why wouldn't you?
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20:20<RichiH>dwu: i mean as opposed to others :)
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20:20<dwu>RichiH: Oh, right. Well, OK.
20:20<MailProvider>he likes to be opposed to others. for example, if you are heterossexual, he'd be GAY!
20:21<dwu>I'm bisexual, how does that work out then?
20:21<MailProvider>you SUCK?
20:21<RichiH>dwu: a rather interesting point
20:21<dwu>Why yes, yes I do. Straws are useful in daily life.
20:21<RichiH>it would probably make me asexual
20:21<dwu>RichiH: I have several of those.
20:22<dwu>RichiH: (Interesting points, y'see)
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20:22<RichiH>a point in and as of itself is not _that_ interesting, though
20:22<abrotman>wtf .. same guy in both places?
20:22<dwu>abrotman: But he's more violent here!
20:23<MailProvider>violents are red, roses are blue
20:23<abrotman>and no staff about eh ...
20:23<RichiH>friendless people are bored, and so are you
20:23<dwu>RichiH: Well, the points are connected to some other bits. I guess taken as a whole, they'd make a nice package? Maybe?
20:23<MailProvider>because in soviet russia staff kicks dwu
20:23<dwu>Hrm, so in regular-land I kick staff. Fuckin' rock.
20:23<RichiH>dwu: interconnected points can make a triangle!
20:24<dwu>RichiH: Or a -star-.
20:24<dwu>RichiH: Let's give him a gold star for effort.
20:24<RichiH>the implications!
20:24<RichiH>the barn star of irc exploits older than 15 years?
20:24<dwu>Geometry! \o/
20:25<MailProvider>the barn of bissexual faggots that came out of the closet right on to IRC
20:25<RichiH>'/quit and and /part are in a bar. /part leaves, who is left?'
20:25<MailProvider>/quit ?
20:25<dwu>You can't be a "nisexual faggot", talk about oxymoron.
20:25<dwu>Bleh, bisexual.
20:25<RichiH>seeing as the usual closet is full with clothes, i can not see how anyone could bear staying in there for ong
20:25<dwu>Hrm, nisexual would give GNAA something to go on for months.
20:26<RichiH>the knight who said ni[l]
20:26<MailProvider>Richard is such a gay name (not kidding now)
20:26<dwu>We're just going to degenerate into religious weapons now.
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20:29<panagos>what is this MailProvider ?
20:30<abrotman>panagos: ignore it .. move on
20:30<dwu>Nuffin' to see 'ere...
20:31<dwu>Mmm. I like muffins.
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20:52<deadaim>i need help
20:52<deadaim>wait nvm hold on
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21:05<pras>hmmm :)
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21:51<college>hello you all. I have a question for you guys. does anyone know how to email an ip address ?
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21:55<abrotman>college: blah@<IP>
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21:56<college>bahaha do you know how i may find that information
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22:18<larphead>Hi! I have a laptop with a built in broadcom wireless nic. I am trying to use the manufacturer's Windows drivers through, I assume, ndiswrapper. Can anyone help?
22:21<Requiem>anybody know a good source to check for known issues a given peice of hardware (southbridge) has with linux?
22:21<gsimmons_>!tell larphead -about ndiswrapper
22:23<larphead>thanks, gsimmons_.
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22:24<gsimmons_>Requiem: Try searching through one of the hardware compatibility lists.
22:24<dpkg>from memory, hcl is at, or see to see what's supported by the linux kernel, or, or, or <pciid ... [xxxx:yyyy] ala lspci -nn>
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22:33<Requiem>hmm, indications that it works, none if it works right, so that tells me nothing new
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22:36<daffytheduck>hi there im trying to get wireless running and it keeps dropping out and at times wont connect at all i have extra network devices that do not appear on lenny ie wmaster is there a way of getting rid of this thnx
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23:00<Vituz>uhmm anyone having problems with swat by any chance?
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23:24<zoya>hi i installed kernel headers for a custom kenel and now i'm trying to compile a module bu i keep getting scripts/genksyms/genksyms missing
23:24<zoya>i don have the file but i have genksyms.o and .h
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23:25<zoya>how do sorry .c and .h
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23:30<zoya>anyone around>
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23:33<tarelerulz>any of you install on a HP pavilion dv6500 ?if did you get the wireless card working
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23:37<gsimmons_>tarelerulz: What wireless chipset is within? `lspci' should list this.
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23:38<tarelerulz>This is what I get "02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)"
23:38<YbeddyJ>how do i enable compiz?
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23:42<tarelerulz>So what you say gsimmons ? chipset I really don't know
23:43<gsimmons_>tarelerulz: It's revision 2 of the BCM4311 chipset, which currently isn't supported by the bcm43xx or b43legacy drivers. You would likely need to resort to use of Windows drivers via ndiswrapper.
23:44<gsimmons_>!tell tarelerulz -about ndiswrapper
23:45<tarelerulz>I am use ndiswrapper and windows driver ,but it is very slow . like web pages time out and stuff like this room take while to come up
23:46<tarelerulz>I have read on the web and end up use bcmwl5
23:47<tarelerulz>I am just wondering if slow is the best I can do .
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23:49<gsimmons_>tarelerulz: Wouldn't know. Try searching the ndiswrapper wiki for known issues regarding your laptop/chipset. You could also ask in #ndiswrapper (on for advice.
23:50<tarelerulz>other then this room nothing comes up .
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23:52<JB318>My laptop is running etch and I need it to get an IPv4 DHCP address from my router. With my new router the laptop decided to start using IPv6 instead, which my desktop doesn't appreciate. How to disable IPv6 on etch?
23:53<gsimmons_>JB318: Blacklist the ipv6 module.
23:53<gsimmons_>!tell JB318 -about blacklist
23:53[~]JB318 reads
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23:56<JB318>gsimmons_: Rebooting
23:57<JB318>OK, well IPv6 is gone, but still no DHCP address. It used to work with the old router.
23:57<JB318>I'll have to poke at it some.
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