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00:19<Travis>Hi I just put a hard drive in my server from my older server, the data on it is in a format called LVM2 MEMBER, because my old server was LVM, I just need to get the data off it for my new server? how do I go about this?
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00:20<Travis>it was once a part of a simple LVM setup with 2 physical drives, now i just have one of the drives that was part of the LVM setup, not the other drive or lvm configuration
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00:28<ubuntu>pls help me........
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00:29<Xenguy>ubuntu: try #ubuntu
00:33<dpkg>Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu ( instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.
00:35<ubuntu>how can i create new server list ?
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00:38<ybeddyj>i've downloaded the latest kernel and compiled it
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00:40<ybeddyj>i've done ..make ... make modules_install now i want to make the initrd img how do i do trhat
00:40<streuner_>Do you have a certain reason for?
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00:44<streuner_>playing with kernels isnt that harmless, you could damage your hardware easily
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00:50<dli>!tell ybeddyj about k-p
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01:01<twb>For a minimal dedicated server used by a single native English-speaking user, is there any real down side to removing the locales package?
01:01<user01>is there a good program to use to have a photo slideshow with audio?
01:02<user01>debian has impress 2.2 which doesnt play audio across multiple slide
01:02<user01>debian testing
01:06<user01>dvd-slideshow maybe
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01:10<debed>Can anyone help me configuring samba server
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01:13<twb>Patience you lack, yes.
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02:10<istoc>Hi, I'm trying to install flashplugin-nonfree on lenny but there arn't any PPC versions of it, which one should I use? Thanks.
02:10<ameyer>there's no ppc version of flash
02:11[~]ameyer blames Adobe for not making a flash plugin on a platform nobody uses
02:11<ameyer>s/nobody/almost\ nobody/
02:11<istoc>What about
02:11<ameyer>that's (part of) the bs with non-free crap
02:12<ameyer>istoc: if that exists, it's gnash, which, last I checked, was virtually worthless
02:12<istoc>What's gnash?
02:13<ameyer>!tell istoc about gnash
02:14<istoc>Huh. So am I doomed to a youtube-less existence on this computer?
02:14<ameyer>allegedly, gnash works with youtube
02:14<istoc>Huh, cool, I'll try it out then. Thanks much.
02:14<yigal>ameyer: it hasn't for a while :(
02:15<yigal>ameyer: although a while is roughly a week, I don't know why
02:15<ameyer>I said allegedly
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02:15<yigal>ameyer: but one can always use clive - download the youtube video and watch with mplayer or like
02:15<ameyer>and last I tried gnash, it didn't work well for much of anything
02:15<yigal>ameyer: it works for crashing your web browser :)
02:16<istoc>Didn't adobe support flash on the mac before they switched to x86?
02:16<ameyer>I was lucky enough to not experience that feature
02:16<ameyer>istoc: I believe they did
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02:17<ameyer>when I said "a platform nobody uses" I meant Linux on PPC, although almost nobody uses anything on PPC
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02:17<ameyer>and I think there's still a OSX-ppc plugin
02:17<yigal>ameyer: I was trying to read an latimes article - very bad journalism but a friend wanted me to read an article and they had flash stuff on the page after 2 sec. the browser crashed
02:18<ameyer>but, since the last mac I used had OS7.5 or something on it
02:18<ameyer>would have been... 1997?
02:18<istoc>Yea it is pretty old but this was a free computer so I guess it'll have to do
02:19<yigal>istoc: download with clive and play with mplayer
02:19<yigal>istoc: if youtube is what you want to use it for
02:19<istoc>I've been using youtube when I've been too lazy to get an mp3, I guess Ill just end up getting them
02:20<istoc>Im gonna try the other packages first though, thanks.
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02:21<ameyer>I wasn't saying your Mac was old, i was saying the last Mac I used is now old
02:21<yigal>on a similar subject does anyone know why flashplugin-nonfree is broken for amd64 - it uses ndispluginwrapper
02:22<yigal>I am using unstable for the plugin
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02:22<yigal>I have to use a chroot and then I can watch nbc shows - it just makes my day to watch Bionic Woman :)
02:23<yigal>but seriously it would be nice if it worked without chroot
02:23<ameyer>I wonder if it's related to flash being f*cked in Konqueror on i386
02:23<yigal>ameyer: probably, if it is, that sound likely
02:23<ameyer>(read that as i think nspluginviewer is broken)
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02:23<yigal>ameyer: that would make more sense as my chroot certainly works
02:24[~]ameyer recommends "renting" bionic woman via NNTP ;)
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02:24<ameyer>just because making that stuff work in Linux is more work than just stealing it
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02:25<george>and bionic woman isn't all she's cracked up to be either, given the original series
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02:26<yigal>ameyer: you would think she could have learned to act in 30 years or so ?
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02:26<george>it's thje same actress?? :)
02:26<burnout>hello hub.
02:26<burnout>first time here.
02:27<burnout>good to hear so many debian users.
02:27<george>or bionic woman watchers :)
02:28<ameyer>I swear, if the networks released shows for free in HD with commercials in a non-DRM'd format via a non-obfuscated delivery mechanism, I wouldn't consider pirating it
02:28<yigal>ameyer: dito
02:29<ameyer>to be honest, I've been too broke recently to pay for usenet, so I've watched it when broadcast, or gone without
02:29<ameyer>actually, I'd probably take a SD version, too
02:29<george>I already got rid of my teevee, and I just found out a buddy of mine hasn't watched tv for at least 30 years
02:29<yigal>george: that's inspiring
02:29<ameyer>it's the hoops I'd have to jump through for that shit
02:30<yigal>ameyer: stage6 as a website is pretty interesting - there selection can be good and its usually reasonable quality without hassle
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02:31<george>or the selection there :)
02:31<ameyer>I really should reacquire proper nntp access
02:32<yigal>ameyer: nntp is good
02:33<ameyer>my ISP's one of the few who still provides it, but its retention/completion/filtering renders it useless for anything other than text-based discussion and pr0n
02:35<george>oic, when they expire articles, they would tell your server to also expire them
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02:38<yigal>ameyer: well I'm out of juice an its not even midnight in my time zone, just weak, good night hackers
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02:43<istoc>Hey, what's a good music player? I've been using audacious but I can't adjust start/stop times and I can't view the playlist. A volume equalizer would be nice too :). Thanks.
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02:47<burnout>hello hub. is this the place to ask for help regarding debian. especially debian on a laptop. I need help on a couple of issues. just checking. if true I'll get my laptop over here for help.
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02:50<burnout>I have bought a laptop (MSI m673) to have a debian system. it installed without any problems. though some things are not working properly.
02:51<burnout>If I can manage the transition I will uninstall the windows system on it.
02:51<burnout>so.... is this the place? :)
02:52<gsimmons>!tell burnout -about ask
02:52<gsimmons>!tell burnout -about laptop
02:52<burnout>hmm ok..
02:52<burnout>-about ask
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02:54<burnout>thanks for the info: :)
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03:24<sparr_o>how can i make the debian menu system NOT put the entire menu hierarchy under a 'Debian' top level menu?
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03:24<alaya>i thnk that's a kde thing
03:24<sparr_o>im not using kde
03:25<alaya>or maybe gnome
03:25<george>sparr_o: what would you want instead
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03:26<sparr_o>george 'Apps' and 'Games' and 'XShells' and etc all on the top level
03:26<sparr_o>which would be confusing in KDE, but not in other WMs that don't keep their own menus
03:26<alaya>i agree the debian submenu is stupid
03:26<george>so you want the content of the present top level to be the top level
03:27<alaya>move everything under debian/ up one level
03:28<sparr_o>i want the content of Debian\ to be the top level
03:28<alaya>its annoying, because the menu definitions in /usr/share/menu don't mention this debian upper level
03:28<alaya>sparr_o: that's what i said - if you move it all up one level, that is the top level
03:28<sparr_o>yes, but thats not what george said
03:28<george>that makes me wonder if the debian menu system is what does that
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03:29<sparr_o>the menu system is what does that
03:29<sparr_o>it adds a Debian level by default
03:29<sparr_o>i know ive seen a WM that doesnt do that, but i cant remember where
03:29<george>"by default"... what are the non-default choices?
03:29<sparr_o>a WM that provides a menu-method script that overrides that behavior
03:29<sparr_o>i dont know
03:29<sparr_o>i dont even know what option those choices would go in
03:30<sparr_o>i know i can change the name of the Debian menu with mainmenutitle="..." in the menu method
03:30<george>but it sounds like you don't want the top level no matter what it's called
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03:31<sparr_o>according to the menu files, there is no "Debian" level. the menu system adds that level on its own
03:31<sparr_o>i THINK that behavior can be overridden, since i think i saw a WM that did it, but i dont know how
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03:32<george>is it possible to learn how?
03:32<sparr_o>that would be why i am here
03:33<george>ok... so the first thing is to find out definitively what is responsible for creating that top level
03:33<sparr_o>install-menu is
03:33<alaya>"<Directory>" "debian" replacewith(tolower($section),"/ ","--") ".directory" "</Directory>\n"
03:33<alaya>maybe that is creating it?
03:33<sparr_o>where is that?
03:34<sparr_o>thats just for xdg
03:34<alaya>but i thought the xdg stuff had to be installed to get full menus?
03:34<sparr_o>not that im aware of
03:34<george>so you want to do it for everything that the menu system supports?
03:35<sparr_o>i only want it to do it for a single menu method
03:35<sparr_o>i dont care if it does or doesnt for the rest
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03:36<george>the only thing I could say here as of now is, what will it do to existing menus?
03:36<george>for example...
03:36<george>kde has a menu
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03:36<george>it has apps, and other sub menus
03:37<george>would doing as you suggest cause debian menu items to overwrite the kde ones?
03:37<george>the reverse:
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03:37<george>would kde menu items overwrite the debian ones?
03:38<george>(remember tho, I'm just using kde as an example... substitute any other "client" of debian menus you want
03:38<alaya>oddly there are no kde entries under /etc/menu-methods
03:39<alaya>the openbox entry has this line: genmenu="debian-menu.xml"
03:39<george>so for that case there would be no overwriting?
03:39<sparr_o> the prefix every $section variable gets.
03:40<george>yaknow, I was wondering why I don't get a debian menu under kde
03:40<sparr_o>documentation scores 1 for having the answer i need
03:40<sparr_o>and -2 for that answer not working :(
03:40<alaya>george: you have menu-xdg installed?
03:41<sparr_o>that directive SHOULD solve this problem
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03:42<sparr_o>but it doesnt
03:42<sparr_o>install-menu seems to be ignoring it
03:42<george>I do have menu-xdg
03:42<alaya>george: that's odd. i've seen that on ubuntu before but not on debian proper
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03:43<alaya>yeah try running update-menus as user
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03:43<george>hmm :) maybe I'm improper :)
03:43<sparr_o>OTHER menu methods have rootsection = "" in them
03:43<sparr_o>but this box isnt powerful enough to run any real WMs :(
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03:43<alaya>sparr_o: hmm, openbox's doesn'*t seem to
03:44[~]george traps Tony Robbins and sits him in front of this box
03:44<george>NOW feel the power!
03:44<sparr_o>well, i give up
03:44<sparr_o>not putting any more time into a system im donating
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03:45<george>so update-menus did not work?
03:45<alaya>you know, its totally stupid. kde had top-level "games', under it "board" "card" and "toys". guess what? Debian's has the exact same structure and subentries
03:45<sparr_o>debian's has a LOT more entries if you start installing random crap that the kde devs dont play
03:46<alaya>sparr_o: exactly, which is why i'd love to bypass the kde one completely and make the debian one top-level
03:46<sparr_o>my last debian box had Games/* installed on it :) that was fun. menus so large they broke some of my favorite WMs
03:46<sparr_o>i filed a a bunch of bugs on WMs that couldnt handle 200+ item menus
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03:47<sparr_o>and a LOT of bugs on packages that dont provide any hints in their menu files
03:47<george>sparr_o: did something different happen when you tried update-menus?
03:48<alaya>i was under the impression that the whole menu thing was moving towards standardization under, but it looks like kde is ignoring it for some reason
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03:48<george>that will be the fourth time he's been nonresponsive to the suggestion
03:48<alaya>a lot of kde apps also don't provide the proper menu entries for themselves
03:49<sparr_o>george: no, why would it be different?
03:49<sparr_o>ive run update-menus like 300 times today
03:49<george>oh ok, thanks
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03:49<george>but did you run that after making that change a few moments ago?
03:51<george>ok, good enough
03:51<sparr_o>repeatedly, with different settings for the rootsection
03:53<george>what's this xdg thing btw? why are all my menu files have the string xdg in there somewhere? since there's only 4...
03:53<george>menu-xdg xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps xdg-desktop-entry-spec-dirs xdg-desktop-entry-spec-sessions
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03:56<george>ok, install-menu is actually a script interpreter
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04:04<george>interesting... a moment ago I did not have update-menus; so I installed menu
04:04<george>but I still don't have install-menu
04:05<george>wait yes I do
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04:16<hachi>is there a way to automate dpkg's handling of config files?
04:16<hachi>I'd love to make a list of files that I actually modified, and have it automatically overwrite other files that I didn't
04:17<george>it can already do that
04:17<hachi>I'm so tired of getting asked about files like '/etc/locale.alias' which I didn't modify myself, so I just don't care about it
04:17<george>some files are marked as conffiles
04:17<hachi>yes, they are
04:18<hachi>these are the ones its asking about
04:18<george>these are checked by dpkg when trying to install something over itself
04:18<hachi>but it says "You or a script modified this, do you want to overwrite it
04:18<hachi>I want to build a list of files that it shouldn't overwrite
04:18<hachi>and overwrite the rest automatically
04:19<hachi>how can I do this?
04:19<george>you'd have to alter dpkg
04:19<hachi>you said it could already do it
04:19<george>I thought so, but I didn't understand exactly what you meant
04:20<george>until you made it clearer
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04:20<hachi>I said config files the first time
04:20<george>you said "automate the handling of config files" which could have meant anything :)
04:21<hachi>right, so after all these years, there's no way to make dpkg STOP ASKING when I didn't actually modify a file?
04:21<hachi>I'd say it's wrong about 80% of the time
04:21<hachi>which is pretty darned bad
04:21<jackblack1>im trying to install java-2 common with apt-get but getting E: Couldn't find package java2-common
04:21<george>yeah, that is pretty bad
04:21<jackblack1>is thier another way
04:22<jackblack1>ive done updates
04:22<jackblack1>tried synaptic
04:22<george>maybe it could find package java2-common :)
04:22<george>err, +not
04:22<jackblack1>lol obviously
04:22<hachi>jackblack1: debian doesn't have java in it, license restrictions
04:22<george>actually I thought it did, in non-free
04:22<hachi>you can build java packages with make-jpkg... which I think is in the java-package package
04:23<jackblack1>i will need java-2 comman to install java correct
04:23<george>do you have non-free and contrib sources in your sources.list?
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04:24<hachi>jackblack1: see the java-package package for how to build the java packages for yourself, it's pretty easy once you download the bins from sun's site
04:24<hachi>I don't see it in non-free or contrib george
04:24<sangeetha>I am trying to customise debian-installer,i am getting an error when i run the mini.iso image using qemu
04:25<george>hmm, I thought they did have it
04:25<sangeetha>boot from hard disk failed: not a bootable disk Fatal:no bootable device
04:25<jackblack1>ok guys thanks ill give it a shot
04:25<george>hachi: what is your /etc/debian_version?
04:25<hachi>they haven't for many years now, I don't see why this would've changed anytime recently
04:25<sangeetha>could somebody help me to solve this error
04:26<hachi>george: it says lenny/sid, I can be far more explicit about what version I'm running if you ask me though
04:26<sparr_o>does anyone have a ~/.xdesktop with content? can you show it to me? im having trouble looking up the syntax
04:26<george>hmm, I thought you'd have it in your sources
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04:32<claudio>hi to all
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04:33<Guest265>sorry.... but i possible install vlc on sid?
04:34<hachi>I see 0.8.6.c-3+b1 in sid, have you tried installing it?
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04:35<melodie>hello gstreamer refuse to work on my lenny, when I try to start mixer_applet2 2.18.0, I test alsa but my alsamixer seem to work properly. Is anybody know the solution ? I also check my /etc/modeprobe.d/sound file but didn't see something wrong
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04:37<Guest265>when i tried to install vlc it tell me that libcdio6 not installable and libiso9660-4 is virtual...
04:38<ifvoid>Guest265: on lenny?
04:38<Guest265>on sid
04:38<ifvoid>libcdio6 is only available on etch
04:38<ifvoid>so it seems you're mixing versions somehow
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04:39<ifvoid>make sure there are anly sid entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
04:39<Guest265>i dont now..... I have installed with net install of sid cd...
04:40<muep_>maybe just a buggy package
04:40<ifvoid>can you paste yout /etc/apt/sources.list on
04:40<hachi>I don't remember there being a sid installer cd... is there such a thing?
04:40<ifvoid>hachi: snapshots perhaps?
04:40<hachi>snaps are for testing... or were
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04:42<Guest265>yes... i change in sources.list from testing to unstable
04:43<hachi>huh... yeah
04:43<hachi>vlc on unstable is not gonna work
04:43<george>did you apt-get update after that?
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04:44<Guest265>yes every day
04:44<ifvoid>hachi: huh?
04:44<ifvoid>hachi: works perfectly here
04:44<hachi>libcdio isn't available at the right version
04:44<Guest265>sorry, but I have to go.....see you
04:44<ifvoid>hachi: uh?
04:45<ifvoid>hachi: vlc in sid depends on libcdio7
04:45<ifvoid>which _is_ available in sid
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04:45<parana_>hello,how should i connect to,it seems need some configure...
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04:46<ifvoid>parana_: /connect
04:46<parana_>i tried ,but the server close the conncetiong every time
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04:46<ifvoid>parana_: you're banned then, I guess
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04:47<parana_>ifvoid:is there a solution to solve this?
04:47<hachi>no... vlc on sid is depending on libcdio6
04:47<ifvoid>hachi: no it doesn't
04:47<ifvoid>I just checked
04:48<hachi>I'm looking at it right now on my unstable machine
04:48<hachi>just did an update
04:48<hachi>apt-cache show vlc
04:48<ifvoid>Depends: [...] libcdio7
04:48<hachi>Depends: libcdio6
04:48<padski>text-mode web browser that does spnego/kerberos ?
04:48<ifvoid>which version do you have?
04:48<ameyer>y'know, I believe that if parana_ can't figure out how to ban-evade, I don't think we should help
04:49<ifvoid>parana_: mail the freenode admins
04:49<ameyer>and, after getting my two cents in, I'm going to sleep
04:49<hachi> # well, you've got me puzzled... this says libcdio7
04:49<hachi>so what's wrong with my machine then
04:49<parana_>did you guys have the same problem?
04:49<ifvoid>hachi: which version of vlc do you have?
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04:49<ifvoid>parana_: no
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04:49<ifvoid>parana_: YOU are banned apparently
04:50<hachi>doesn't matter, I'm looking at apt-cache show
04:50<ifvoid>hachi: of course it matters
04:50<hachi>why should apt-cache show care about what version is installed?
04:50<ifvoid>apt-cache doesn't care
04:50<ifvoid>I do
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04:50<hachi>then why does it matter?
04:50<ifvoid>trying to figure out what's going on
04:51<ifvoid>if you also have 0.8.6.c-3+b1, then something very weird is going on
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04:51<parana_>all right,i think i should go and explore the
04:51<hachi>I don't have any vlc installed
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04:51<hachi>apt-cache policy vlc
04:51<hachi> Candidate: 0.8.6.c-3+b1
04:52<ameyer>you know, it's possible a route between parana_ and is borked...
04:52<ifvoid>hachi: ok, very weird
04:52<ameyer>also, it could be active interference by a 3rd party
04:52<ifvoid>ameyer: then he wouldn't be able to connect at all
04:52<ameyer>kinda like comcast's anti-bittorrent bs
04:53<ameyer>ifvoid: what if there was a flaky router in the middle mangling packets?
04:53<hachi>ifvoid: it must be a platform thing
04:53<ifvoid>hachi: I am on amd64
04:53<hachi>I'm on x86
04:54<ameyer>I'd be interested in any error message parana_'s client was throwing, but not right now
04:54<hachi>yup.... m68k and x86 are still at cdio6
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04:54<hachi>libcdio6 is not available anymore
04:54<ifvoid>not according to rmadison
04:54<hachi>libcdio7 is... but x86 depends on 6
04:54<ifvoid>vlc 0.8.6.c-3 | unstable | source, mips, mipsel
04:54<ifvoid>vlc 0.8.6.c-3+b1 | unstable | alpha, amd64, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, s390, sparc
04:55<ifvoid>the +b1 version is the rebuild
04:55<hachi>look at that page
04:55<ifvoid>packages.d.o always lags behind
04:55<hachi>well, like I said
04:55<hachi>I did an apt-get update
04:55<ifvoid>your mirror might not be updated yet
04:55<hachi>apt-cache vlc shows libcdio6
04:56<ifvoid>the changes seem very recent
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04:58<ifvoid>you're right
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05:01<screenn>Rivatv ./configure error in Etch: in Sarge earlier all worked well
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05:13<screenn>maybe back in Sarge?
05:14<melodie>can you read me ? It seem that since I've upgrade my kernel and ndiswrapper module I have problem with irc...
05:15<graytron>melodie: i can read you
05:15<screenn>Problem with Rivatv in Etch:
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05:22<hachi>what package contains the nfs mount tools on debian stable?
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05:22<hachi>I installed nfs-common and portmap... still no go
05:23<hachi>mount.nfs isn't listed in any package I can find
05:23<dli_>hachi, there's no such "mount.nfs"
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05:24<hachi>it keeps complaining that the superblock on 'rosa:/red' is bad... but I'm trying to get it to mount that nfs export
05:24<dli_>hachi, instead, do "mount your.nfs.server:your/nfs/dir /mnt/nfs_mountpoint"
05:24<hachi>not working
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05:25<dli_>hachi, also, better not to use nfs unless you understand why you have to use it
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05:25<dli_>!tell hachi about nfs
05:25<flair>hi all, how do I burn a .img file onto a cd?
05:25<hachi>right, I know why I want to use nfs
05:25<flair>its a bootable cd image.
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05:26<hachi>because I have an ldap centralized auth system, and I'm trying to share directories that will need to hold onto their security information
05:26<flair>is there a quick and easy of doing so in the console?
05:26<hachi>samba is too slow
05:26<hachi>my exports are fine
05:26<hachi>rpcinfo is fine on the server
05:26<hachi>and I've already checked to make sure the mount works fine to other machines
05:26<hachi>debian stable isn't letting me mount an nfs mount
05:26<keith>Debian4.0. amd64. libdvdcss2. This was installed on my system I can play some DVDs but not all. Some DVDs bring up the error message asking if I have libdvdcss2 installed. Is there some extra tweaking that I have to do?
05:27<dli_>hachi, check local mount first, "mount localhost:"
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05:27<dli_>!tell flair about mplayer
05:27<hachi>that's not gonna work because I don't have nfs-kernel-server installed, and I don't have any exports running
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05:30<hachi>no iptables rules in place
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05:30<hachi>local network connection... no bridges to filter
05:31<hachi>name resolution works fine
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05:31<hachi>mount isn't even attempting to contact the network
05:32<hachi>it does a stat for 'rosa:/red' which of course doesn't exist, and then gives up
05:32<hachi>I'm supplying -t nfs as well
05:32<dli_>!tell hachi about ask
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05:32<hachi>I already asked!
05:32<hachi>debian stable, trying to get an nfs mount working
05:33<hachi>server is fine, mounts to other machines just fine
05:33<hachi>no firewalls in place to block things... straced mount command, it's not even attempting an nfs mount
05:33<alaya>hachi: i highly recommend reading the nfs-howto
05:33<hachi>something is wrong with mount(8) on debian stable
05:34<alaya>also hosts.allow/deny must be set up
05:34<hachi>on the client?
05:34<hachi>they're already set up on the server, just fine
05:34<dli_>hachi, you have to pastebin your command lines with error messages
05:34<dli_>hachi, I don't understand what you are trying to do
05:35<hachi>it's a bloody simple nfs mount!
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05:35<alaya>other machines mount it fine?
05:35<hachi>I've said that twice now already
05:36<hachi>it's a local network mount
05:36<hachi>works on other machines
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05:36<alaya>is portmap running?
05:36<alaya>and nfs-common?
05:36<hachi>said that already, yes
05:36<Tuplad>Can anyone shoot me with a manual on how to make swap space ? I used this one: but everytime I boot it says: mount failed mount point none does not exist.
05:37<hachi>rpcinfo -p rosa shows the stuff I expect in a normal nfs world
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05:37<simonrvn>you don't mount swap
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05:37<dli_>Tuplad, fix your fstab
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05:38<dli_>UUID=bb80b355-b95d-40e0-ad85-f200a34c7506 none swap sw 0 0
05:38<dli_>Tuplad, that's mine
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05:38<Tuplad>um :|
05:38<Tuplad>in my fstab I've got this: /swapfile none /swap sw 0 0
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05:39<Tuplad>I just wanted a gig of swap :]
05:39<dli_>Tuplad, /swap -> swap
05:39<Tuplad>so next time I boot it'll be aight ?
05:39<dli_>Tuplad, make sure you have the /swapfile, and you can do "swapon /swapfile"
05:39<kooll>Tuplad: you don't need to reboot for that
05:39<dpkg>you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2, or for chumps
05:40<Tuplad>so it's already activated?
05:40<simonrvn>!reboot =~ s/, or for chumps//
05:40<dpkg>simonrvn: OK
05:40<simonrvn>that part annoyed me
05:40<dli_>Tuplad, cat /proc/swaps
05:40<simonrvn>it's active after the 'swapon' yes
05:40<hachi>I am seeing no wire traffic from this machine attempting an NFS mount
05:41<Tuplad>if I do swapon -s
05:41<Tuplad>it's there now :)
05:41<Tuplad>but it says size: 205816 and used: 0
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05:41<alaya>hachi: tcpdump on the server
05:41<hachi>yes, that's what I did
05:41<hachi>0 packets
05:41<dli_>Tuplad, you can figure that out
05:42<hachi>well, I did it from the client actually, but that's what I did
05:42<Tuplad>dli_: my swap is only 201mb :|
05:42<Tuplad>eventhough I created a 1 gig one
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05:43<dli_>Tuplad, swapoff, check file size, mkswap again maybe
05:43<Tuplad>ok :)
05:46<Tuplad>omg, what linux can do without rebooting :o
05:46<chuxxsss>anyone have a lot of problems with firefox freezing
05:47<dli_>chuxxsss, yes, I have firefox freezing with gnash
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05:47<simonrvn>Tuplad: a lot
05:48<Tuplad>dli_: so I did dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=1048576, after that I tried sudo swapon -a but it says: swapon: /swapfile: argument not allowed (translated from russian)
05:48<chuxxsss>that it I have just install gnash and some flash stuff as well freezes now so using konqueror now
05:49<simonrvn>Tuplad: probably "invalid argument"
05:49<dli_>Tuplad, you didn't mkswap?
05:49<Tuplad>yes that
05:49<Tuplad>dli_: nope, now I did
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05:49<Tuplad>dli_: it also gave me an UUID, is it of any use ?
05:49<Tuplad>Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1073737 kB
05:49<Tuplad>no label, UUID=2b3f7573-69ed-415d-b5fb-9f9a8615f030
05:50<simonrvn>Tuplad: that's what you'd use to mount it via UUID
05:50<dli_>Tuplad, you can put UUID in fstab
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05:50<Tuplad>so you can either use /swapfile or the uuid ? :)
05:50<dli_>chuxxsss, does "pkill -9 gtk-gnash" bring firefox back?
05:51<simonrvn>the path and filename or UUID or LABEL.
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05:51<simonrvn>swap don't get LABELs usually ;)
05:51<chuxxsss>dont now it freezes the computer completely dli,
05:52<chuxxsss>just removed gnash
05:53<Tuplad>so when is the swap going to get used ? :\
05:53<Tuplad>used 88 lol
05:53<dli_>Tuplad, I'm not sure you can use UUID for swapfiles
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05:54<dli_>chuxxsss, no, gnash never freezes my system
05:54<simonrvn>dli_: you can
05:54<simonrvn>oh files...
05:54<chuxxsss>may be my system
05:54<simonrvn>only partitions
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05:54<simonrvn>you were right
05:56<Tuplad>thanks y'all
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06:02<padski>I'm trying to get mod-auth-kerb working with firefox on etch and apache on etch. I can telnet ok, but apache is logging "failed to verify krb5 credentials: Permission denied"
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06:05<padski>"improvement": failed to verify krb5 credentials: Request is a replay
06:06<padski>from IE6: gss_accept_sec_context() failed: A token was invalid (Token header is malformed or corrupt)
06:07<padski>(I'm not expecting that to auth by krb5 yet)
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06:13<Tuplad>I've got another question :p
06:14<Tuplad>I downloaded subtitles for a movie ( ... when I start the movie, the subtitles appear, but in unreabable text, like, wrong encoding
06:14<Tuplad>I juse use Totem
06:17<Tuplad>can I fix it ? to show normal Russian
06:17<dli_>Tuplad, try mplayer
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06:22<Tuplad>dli_: : error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
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06:23<dli_>Tuplad, your system is not properly set up, try "mplayer -zoom vo x11 "
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06:24<Tuplad>I get a bunch of text :p
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06:24<dli_>Tuplad, sorry, mplayer -zoom -vo x11
06:25<Tuplad>dli_: ok, now it went like this:
06:26<dli_>Tuplad, "man mplayer"
06:27<Tuplad>dli_: ah screw it, I'll get an english subtitling
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06:29<padski>apparently there is a patch available for for lynx to do krb negotiate
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06:43<Tuplad>dli_: I think I got to the core of my problem :o
06:43<Tuplad>dli_: I've got a Russian version of linux, but everything else that's written in Russia(text documents I download, movies with subtitles, etc.) are always unreadable, wrong encoding.
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06:44<Tuplad>Can I set the ecoding for the whole system somewhere or what ?
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06:44<dli_>Tuplad, better to use LANG=en_US.UTF-8
06:45<leikh>in the partition table hda1 has suddenly become hda2 and vs vs. How do I switch them back?
06:45<Tuplad>dli_: where do I put it ? :]
06:46<Tuplad>at this moment: echo $LANG = ru_RU.UTF-8
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06:51<dli_>Tuplad, try this howto:
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06:52<Tuplad>I think I found it
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06:55<Gekz>I was just reading, which allows the LCD screen to be turned off using kcontrol. How could I do this without using kcontrol, because kde/qt is massive and 4GB... no space to waste
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06:56<Tuplad>dli_: oh thanks man, /etc/evironment :D
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07:05<Gekz>I found a way :p
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07:08<ServerSide>anyone knows how i can change my "preferred browser"?
07:08<fxiny>man update-alternatives
07:08<lupine>kde has it's own little bit too
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07:23<[gloom]>hi there
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07:25<keith>Debian 4.0. amd64.I installed libdvdcss2 but it works on some DVDs but will not work for others. Any help here?
07:27<[gloom]>keith: any output error?
07:28<livio>hi i m having problems whith my geany compiler, it says compilation failed because g++ not found... can anyone help?
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07:28<fxiny>install build-essential
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07:29<[gloom]>livio: apt-get isntall g++-4.2
07:29<keith>gloom: just the quest 'Are you trying to .........without libdvdcss2'. Or something like that.
07:29<fxiny>livio: check : apt-cache policy build-essential
07:29<fxiny>and install it
07:30<[gloom]>keith: which player?
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07:31<livio>ok cheers
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07:34<ServerSide>oops, i lost my xchat menu -_-
07:34<livio>how do i check it?
07:35<livio>(sorry im a bit useless)
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07:36<fxiny>livio: open a terminal and type : apt-cache show build-essential will tell you what is about and apt-cache policy build-essential if installed
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07:37<fxiny>livio: i suggest you use aptitude to install like : aptitude install <packagename>
07:37<keith>gloom: movie player.It come on automatically.
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07:39<fxiny>keith: don't know about 64 , i use mplayer + dependecies from : deb etch main
07:40<dpkg>i guess gnome is a desktop environment - see a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome
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07:42<keith>fxiny: I downloaded everything relevant from .....multimedia but they didn't improve anything.
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07:43<swo>can somebody please tell me the base gnome package?
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07:44<swo>i cannot find a soimilar package with apt-cache
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07:45<fxiny>keith: this is etch 32 : apt-cache policy libdvdcss2 >> Installed: 1.2.9-0.0 500 etch/main Packages , did you update your cache ?
07:45<fxiny>no idea about 64
07:45<enkrypt>is there something like "webmin" included in debian testing/unstable?
07:46<Gathond>enkrypt: try searching for it on, or using aptitude search
07:46<enkrypt>Gathond: nope, nothing available with the word "webmin"
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07:46<Gathond>then I suppose not
07:46<Gekz>enkrypt: just get it off the webmin site
07:47<gsimmons>!tell enkrypt -about webmin
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07:47<Gekz>tell me about webmin!
07:47<enkrypt>Gekz: yeah I could do that, but I wanted to ask if there is a better alternative that is included in the regular debian repo's ?
07:47<Gekz>obviously not
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07:51<keith>fxiny: cache?
07:52<fxiny>keith: just apt-get update
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07:53<fxiny>keith: then apt-cache search libdvdcss2 to see if is avaiable , as i said i have no clue about 64
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07:58<keith>fxiny: I did both of those and the file is there. It must be there because some DVDs run OK.
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08:07<[gloom]>is there any gnu/os tool like IDA in the repos?
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08:38<jas4711>anyone knows how to debug pbuilder? pbuilder --create fails for me right now with messages 'P: Configuring helper cdebootstrap-helper-apt' followed by 'E: Couldn't install system due to errors!' ideas?
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09:45<dpkg>methinks kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde, or ask me about <kde_trouble>, or to get KDE, ask about <install kde>
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09:45<dpkg>experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does not support experimental. for an actual description, see section of the Developer's Reference, or
09:47<dpkg>[cz] Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz
09:47<dpkg>rumour has it, pl is perl, "packet loss", or polska -> (on
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10:14<xander>can anyone tell me if there is any appn for webcam
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10:15<xander>ya any package for connecting my webcam
10:15<xander>on debian
10:16|-|mode/#debian [+l 327] by debhelper
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10:17<xander>any package to detect my webcam???
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10:18<xander>can any one suggest me any package for webcam???
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10:24<cahoot>depends on the cam
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10:25<cahoot>find out it's identity xxxx:xxxx and google
10:25<xander>my cam is an logitech one
10:25<xander>ya an usb one
10:25<cahoot>find out it's identity xxxx:xxxx - lsusb should tell
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10:28<xander>what do u mean by xxxx:xxxx
10:28<xander>can i know what it is??
10:29<fxiny>2 aussie pints
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10:29<fxiny>like wt4x
10:29<cahoot>like 046d:c510 - maker and model xander
10:30<cahoot>xander: connect the cam and run lsusb
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10:30<xander>ya im doing it
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10:31<xander>its howing 0000:0000
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10:31<cahoot>xander: the most probable solution(s) are gspca and/or uvcvideo (the latter if you're fortunate)
10:32<xander>what are they???
10:32<cahoot>xander: hmmph
10:32<cahoot>xander: modules (drivers)
10:32<cahoot>xander: module-assistant is the tool to get/make/install them
10:32<arguapacha>hi! I need to install a file "" that is found in Debian testing inside package "libmotif3", but I have Debian stable and there is no such package. What is the best approach to install the libmotif package? Just add the testing repository to apt sources and install from there? or should I download the tar.gz and install from there?
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10:34<cahoot>xander: gspca might still be called spca5xx depending on debian/kernel version
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10:35<xander>cahoot: really thankful for ur replies
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10:36<cahoot>xander: the 0000:0000 makes me a bit dubious/unsure though
10:37<xander>ya i'm trying my best to work out wid those
10:37<cahoot>xander: my logitech QC 5000 uses uvcvideo anyway
10:37<xander>and tats how u cud tell me
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10:38<xander>Under linux, which command will kill all processes whose process name contains the string "killme"?
10:38<cahoot>pkill <string>?
10:39<xander>any more guesses
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10:41<soly>anybody here....???
10:41<noflash>soly, probably not, just ask your debian related quwestion
10:41<noflash>or question
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10:48<george>xander: a big part of the power of linux is its ability to automate things by making scripts... write a script to do what you want
10:48<arguapacha>hi! I need to install a file "" that is found in Debian testing inside package "libmotif3", but I have Debian stable and there is no such package. What is the best approach to install the libmotif package? Just add the testing repository to apt sources and install from there? or should I download the tar.gz and install from there?
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10:49<george>!simple sid backport
10:49<dpkg>First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs.
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10:50<george>arguapacha: see above from dpkg. this is assuming the package is in sid
10:50<george>(it may not be)
10:51<arguapacha>package is in lenny
10:51<user01>i keep getting an ffmpeg error in dvd-slideshow when creating ac3 audio, anyone familiar with dvd-slideshow?
10:51<arguapacha>How do I ask "dpkg" about backports?
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10:51<arguapacha>not really a guru in this IRC thingy
10:52<george> /msg dpkg backports
10:52<george>and if you want later, /help newusers
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10:53<alfix>ora mi dice che il sistema operativo non è supportato
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10:53<alfix>mi metto a cercare un altro metodo per installare
10:53<alfix>i driver dalla vnidua
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10:53<george> /msg dpkg it
10:53<dpkg>per aiuto in lingua italiana, provi il canale #debian-it sulla rete (non C'è anche il canale #linux-it là.
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10:56<user01>im wondering if i change to mp2 audio if it will work
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11:07<nihilistnerd>How do I move things on an xfce panel?
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11:36<dennis>i want to install a number of packages on all workstation. I have created a script reads the packages from a file. It takes a lot of time answering yes/no questions
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11:37<dennis>so i used python pexpect to send the default answer
11:37<yano>hi,somebody have the problem to connect to,i always banned,and the message shows i use tor,but indeed i don't use it
11:38<dennis>but when it doesn't seem to work with GUI questions
11:38<stew>yano: email describing your problem
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11:39<yano>stew:all right,thanks!
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11:54<nihilistnerd>Hello, good sir! And how goes life?
11:55<dachary>i'm looking for a freelance to work on debian packaging. Where should I look ?
11:55<nihilistnerd>I have no idea, for I am a complete nubblet!
11:56<nihilistnerd>Though I suppose I'd like to tgain a bit of experience with Debian. I say I'm a complete nubblet, I know a little.
11:56<nihilistnerd>But I don't know a lot about packaging.
11:56<nihilistnerd>Have you looked at Ubutnu MOTU? I mean that's not exactly Debian, but you know...
11:56<Ikarus>hrm, what is the file I should add custom udev rules to on Debian ? :)
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11:57<Ikarus>(Wanting not to break everything)
11:57<chealer>dachary: if the packages are to be integrated in Debian, you can ask #debian-devel
11:58<dachary>chealer: will do as well
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12:10<rooster><CowBot> that would be a moot point; then?
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12:25<eclipse>erver irc
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12:48<stulle>hi, my laptop sound is very low even thou it's set to the maximum output
12:49<stulle>does anybody know a solution to this problem?
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12:52<cahoot>also tried alsamixer?
12:53<leikh>testdisk doesn't show correct size for my windows partition. I was kind of hoping it would, so that i could tell it to write a new and correct MBR :-/ Any ideas on how I can solve this?
12:54<fxiny>fdisk can fix it
12:55<leikh>is fdisk reliable?
12:55<fxiny>it is
12:55<stulle>currently i'm trying alsaconf
12:55<cahoot>stulle: hardly any point of you have sound
12:56<fxiny>leikh: fdisc
12:56<fxiny>leikh: can do many things , in x(pert mode) ca fix partition order for example
12:57<fxiny>maybe that is f mode
12:57<leikh>fxiny: ok, I'll have a look. thx
12:58<fxiny>leikh: np
12:58<stulle>cahoot: i don't get it
12:59<leikh>fxiny: btw, is cfdisk similar do fdisk?
12:59<cahoot>stulle: alsaconf is of no use if you basically have sound - maybe alsamixer can help if it's a mixer setting that needs adjustment
12:59<stulle>no, the mixer is set to max volume
12:59<leikh>fxiny: but fdisk is the choice?
12:59<cahoot>stulle: by mixer you mean alsamixer?
12:59<stulle>and the soundoutput is something you would expect hearing through...say....10 meters of metal
13:00<fxiny>leikh: i use fdisk when things are a bit messy
13:00<cahoot>stulle: you have only one sounddevice?
13:00<cahoot>stulle: /proc/asound/cards should list them
13:00<stulle>one moment
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13:01<stulle>i have to reboot
13:02<stulle>the bash is quite excited about a error
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13:06<stulle>/proc/asound/cards doesn't work
13:06<stulle>i'm not allowed
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13:07<stulle>ah, now i got it
13:07<stulle>pity me
13:08<stulle> 0 [VT82xx ]: HDA-Intel - HDA VIA VT82xx / HDA VIA VT82xx at 0xc9100000 irq 58
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13:09<bremner>stulle: do you have hardware volume control buttons on your laptop
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13:10<stulle>no, none
13:12<ServerSide>Registrant Search: "Google Inc." owns about 8,718 other domains l0l
13:12<bremner>OK, nevermind. Thinkpads in particular are famous for having a hardware level of volume control invisible to alsa
13:12<stulle>isn't there any file where you set the volume range ofthe laptop? (like setting the speed of the touchpad which is too low after etup)
13:13<stulle>well, if there is one it's invisible to me, too.
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13:14<cahoot>stulle: see if lowering all but master/pcm does any good
13:15<cahoot>stulle: btw thos hda-intel things are often troublesome
13:15<stulle>i just found the hardware volume-control it's on the keybord
13:15<stulle>but it won't work
13:18<stulle>rats,,,now i have to press the function key all the time to not use the function keys..
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13:18<cahoot>stulle: there are some moduleoption described in ALSA-Configuration.txt that *might* be useful
13:18<stulle>sorry for bugging you...i think i'll google for this one...
13:18<bremner>also make sure alsa is up to date
13:19<cahoot>preferably latest possible alsa
13:19<stulle>but the problem is quite simple now
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13:19<stulle>i got a hardware-volumecontrol
13:20<stulle>but it doesn't work
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13:28<shadowkiller>bonjour je voudrais savoir si il y a un autre moyen de faire la comande pour le bureau a distance
13:28<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur ou French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on or
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13:31<stulle>well, now my hardware volumecontrol works but the sound is still too low
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13:35<chakku> /msg chakku9 register <itsnike> <>
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13:36<amphi>/msg blah - no leading space ;)
13:36<fxiny>i bet itsadidas will do :P
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14:00[~]rooster (shadowkiller) Avez vous tirez "Free NX"
14:01<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez aller aux canaux #debian-fr sur ou French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on or
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14:05<bremner>stulle: can you type: apt-cache policy alsa-modules
14:05<paveq>I wonder if lenny will have kde4...
14:05<vook>paveq: its currently in experimental
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14:06<paveq>well first version should be released quite soon, but it will have bugs..
14:06<paveq>I mean mainstream version
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14:06<vook>yeah, once it's released, it'll probably move to unstable. Maybe to Lenny a few months later.
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14:07<paveq>lenny should be released in half an year or so?
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14:08<ifvoid>paveq: summer 2008 is the planning, yeah
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14:09<vook>I'll give KDE another look soon. I haven't really used it for years - I always felt like it was trying to hard to look like Windows. 4.0 looks to have gone in a differenty direction.
14:09<ifvoid>vook: indeed
14:10<paveq>vook: its just default-look, can be customised
14:10<ifvoid>I'm planning on trying it, too
14:10<ifvoid>paveq: kde3 is too messy, imo
14:10<paveq>I think its better anyways for new users to have somewhat familiar gui, and windows ain't so bad after all
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14:16<bremner>stulle: doh!, of course I meant apt-cache policy alsa-source
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14:22<nihilistnerd>Can I ask you: will people automatically assume that I'm a hopeless eternal luser because I'm on AOL? Trouble is, I don't have control of my Internet access :-(
14:23<treyh0>i think the info on the dpkg bot for 'backports' is a little old -- 'backport caveat' for example -- says that all backports will be installed, but that's not true
14:23<treyh0>they aren't activated by default preference
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14:34<stulle>hello, i'm back again
14:34<stulle>i compiled the new current alsa and the laptop sound works perfect now (good sound level)
14:35<stulle>now i 've got a new problem: when i plug in the headphones, the laptop-phone gets muted, but the headphone is silent too
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14:36<cahoot>stulle: hda-intel things are often troublesome
14:36<stulle>that's might be so
14:36<stulle>that might..
14:37<cahoot>stulle: alsamixer doesn't help ?
14:38<cahoot>on my hda-intel there's a toggle for headset
14:42<stulle>there isn't a "headphone"-option at all
14:43<stulle>oh well, i'll leave this be till tomorrow
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14:43<stulle>thank anyway, cya
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14:45<Samooka>hello... I'm having a bit of trouble running audacity. It causes a strange kernel message and the program never pops up.
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14:45<Samooka>ps -A gives me the pid, but I can't kill the program too.
14:45<Samooka>Can anyone offer guidance?
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14:48<Samooka>I have put the syslog bit referring to this crash on
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14:57<ShiFTKey>should I be using smbfs?
14:57<ShiFTKey>I heard there may be possible security issues with it
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15:45<PBD>Hi, someone knows smplayer?
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15:46<PBD>it doesn't show the subtile...
15:47<witte>PBD: smplayer is not in debian, you can better ask at a smplayer forum
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15:48<PBD>witte: thank you!
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15:51<rafilski>Alguem vivo ai ?
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15:56<user01>can anyone get dvd-slideshow to work?
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16:00<user01>is the a dvd-slideshow channel?
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16:04<t3hub3rk1tten>anyone know if its possible to change a programs listening port at runtime without the program knowing? (with root privledges)
16:05<KRS>how can i shutdown my pc in the suspend mode???
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16:06<Robinayor_>KRS: call hibernate[-(ram|disk)] as root
16:07<KRS>how can i add the suspend mode in the shutdown menu? i don´t want to use the root-consol for this option, if possible.
16:09<Robinayor_>KRS: which wm?
16:10<Robinayor_>dunno for gnome.. sry
16:10<Robinayor_>KRS: you may add a "link-button" to "sudo hibernate"
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16:12<KRS>where can i edit the sudo list?
16:13<Robinayor_>KRS: /etc/sudoer
16:13<KRS>k, thx. ;)
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16:44<mpr>Problems with monitoring my battery of my PowerBook G4. Since a few weeks the monitoring plugin xfce4-battery-plugin doesn't work anymore on my Apple Powerbook G4. It looks like apm doesn't work anymore. I read something about apm_emu but cannot find anything about it.
16:45<mpr>By the way I'm running lenny
16:48<k-man>what do i have to do so i can eject a cd/dvd by pressing the button on the drive, even if the disk is mounted?
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17:05<yagami>i installed debian 4.0 on my laptop everything worked fine but after i reboot the computer i don t get any image
17:06<JasonS>yagami: image? as in its cmd line?
17:07<yagami>no nothing at all
17:07<yagami>i get the grub screen
17:07<yagami>i chose to start debian
17:07<yagami>but after i don t get anything
17:07<yagami>just black screen
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17:13<Ikarus>Hrm, can debian install directly to raid 1 these days ?
17:13<Ikarus>haven't run the installer in ages
17:14<Ikarus>Ganneff: etch installer or erm what's its name testing's ?
17:14<@Ganneff>and later of course
17:14<Ikarus>Then where am I missing the option
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17:35<kde_problem>hello everybody
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17:45<teste>hello everybody
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17:46<dn7>hey guys
17:47<teste>hey guys
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17:47<teste>i have problem with my kde and all my window managers
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17:47<teste>the xserver is working
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17:47<teste>i can see the loging screen
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17:48<teste>but when i enter user and pass i have a black screen for 2 seconds and then the logon screen again
17:48<teste>what is the problem ?
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17:48<teste>hello andrej
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17:49<teste>can you help me please ?
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17:50<dn7>i'm looking for a backported image of deb or something that contains SATA drivers .. but i only found 'etch' and I'm looking for the 'testing' ver
17:50<dn7>any ideas?
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17:50<witte>dn7: for installing? or just a newer kernel?
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17:50<haier>what do you have in your /etc/apt/source.list file ?
17:50<andrej>i'm trying to install UT GOTY and i follow there rules i came to 5. d) i hit the Begin install button and then i says that i have to insert cdrom but the cdrom is inserted i click yes and nothing happens ...
17:50<andrej>what can i do ?
17:50<bremner>teste: can you login on the console?
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17:51<haier>bremner : yes i'm nowin the console login
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17:52<witte>haier: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages
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17:54<haier>witte : i'm trying to use [ALT]+F2 to have another console screen but it doesn't work. Should i go out from chat to have console prompt ?
17:55<bremner>Did you try "failsafe login" on the display manager (which display manager btw? kdm?)
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17:55<haier>even the failsafe is not working
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17:55<haier>i'm using the console loging
17:56<witte>haier: don't know, depends on your chat program i guess
17:57<witte>haier: if you run bitchx from a screen, just detach the screen and reattach it later
17:57<haier>how ?
17:57<witte>if not, you can do "ctrl-Z" and bg to put it in background, and get it back later with fg
17:57<bremner>[ALT]+Fn _should_ work BTW.
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17:58<haier>BTW ??
17:58<witte>bremner: i agree, haier can also try ctrl-alt-f2
17:58<dpkg>it has been said that btw is by the way
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17:59<haier>when i try ctrl+alt+f2 i have a black screen with a dash blinking
17:59<haier>the same result for alt+fn
18:00<haier>i'll try the bg and fg
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18:00<haier>i'm coming back in 1 minute
18:00<witte>haier: it seems that your X is not set up correctly
18:01<haier>witte i've being working with kde and gnome till i had a problem this evening
18:01<haier>my xserver was correctly set
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18:01<witte>haier: so it was an existing situation with an error due to an upgrade?
18:01<haier>i think that the problem was some file in the /tmp directory
18:02<bremner>haier: check disk space. df
18:02<haier>cause i had removed all files in /tmp
18:02<witte>bremner: good call
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18:03<witte>haier: the files in /tmp are not needed, so you can remove them... that should not lead to problems
18:03<haier>i have a full disk in / but in subdirectories /home /mnt /etc /usr is not 100% full
18:03<bremner>full / is probably the problem
18:03<witte>haier: ok, try this first: apt-get autoclean
18:04<haier>i'll return back right now
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18:05<rodbet>hej mam pytanko
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18:07<dpkg>pl is, like, perl, "packet loss", or polska -> (on
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18:10<haier>thanks witte
18:10<witte>haier: did it work?
18:10<haier>it was the cache of the apt program
18:10<haier>thek you witte very much ;-)
18:11<witte>ok, also make sure you do not have 10 old kernels lurking around
18:11<witte>they also consume 50 MB/image
18:11<haier>how cani do that ?
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18:11<witte>haier: with "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" you can see which kernels you have installed
18:12<bremner>how many kernels in grub?
18:12<witte>haier: if you only use one of them, you have no need for the rest
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18:12<haier>i have just one image
18:13<haier>so it(s fine
18:13<witte>haier: and if you want a better view of where space is consumed, use du, for instance "du --max-depth=1 -h"
18:13<witte>yep, that is fine
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18:15<bremner>the directory /var/log is another one that can get big.
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18:16<haier>for me : /var/log = 20M
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18:21<Icekiller>i have a question
18:21<Icekiller>i don't use grub or lilo to boot up my system
18:21<Icekiller>so i can't use the 'grub-update' command to update my bootmanager
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18:21<Icekiller>so.. how can i..?
18:21<stew>Icekiller: how can you what?
18:21<Icekiller>yeah.. i installed 2.6.23 well i did the dpkg -i customkernel.deb
18:22<Icekiller>al went well
18:22<Icekiller>and the kernel ends with 'now do grub-update' so that the grub manager is edited and you can start with this kernel..
18:22<Icekiller>my kernel (uname -r) stays @
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18:22<dpkg>grml is a bootable CD (Live-CD) originally based on Knoppix and Debian. grml includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of texttools and system administrators. grml provides automatic hardware detection. You can use grml for example as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment.
18:23<linduxed>i just tried to install E17 from CVS with the help of a thread on ubuntu forums, however i get these errors:
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18:23<linduxed>what could they be related to?
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18:25<andrej>how can i tell the program that where cd is mounted if it ask me to mount cd ?
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18:26<streuner>andrej: can you re-phrase that sentence again?
18:26<Icekiller>that sentences made no sense..
18:26<Icekiller>that sentence made no sense..
18:26<Icekiller>are you trying to mount your CDROM drive..?
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18:27<stew>andrej: which program?
18:27<andrej>i want to install a game and i have linux installation on my desktop and i run it and then it asks me to mount cdrom but that is already mounte...
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18:28<andrej>Please mount the Disc One CDROM.
18:28<andrej>Choose Yes to retry, No to cancel [N/y]
18:29<dli>andrej, not in debian, wild guess, it wants to mount the cd itself
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18:29<andrej>if some how could i tell that stupid prog where is my cdrom it would be a easy deal :)
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18:31<stew>it sounds like he needs to rerun apt-cdrom with the right mount point
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18:32<Icekiller>[ 156.298741] snd_usb_audio: version magic '2.6.23 SMP ' should be ' SMP mod_unload
18:33<linduxed>if its what i think it is he needs to disable supermount and then have two shells, one for installationscript and one for mounting and umouunting
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18:34<witte> <andrej> i'm trying to install UT GOTY and i follow there rules
18:34<witte> i came to
18:34<witte> 5. d) i hit the Begin install button and then i says that i
18:34<witte> have to insert cdrom but the cdrom is inserted i click yes and
18:34<witte> nothing happens ...
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18:35<witte>oops, that had to be one line...
18:36<witte>in any case, that was the problem from andrej from an hour ago or so
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18:40<andrej>does somebody have any clue for my mouting problem ?
18:41<stew>andrej: please show us your /etc/apt/sources.list ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin
18:42<andrej>why is sources.list important ?
18:42<stew>oh, its a game looking for the cdrom?
18:42<stew>nm, i misread the original question
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18:43<andrej>deb-src etch/updates main contrib non-free
18:43<andrej>deb etch main contrib non-free
18:43<andrej>deb-src etch main contrib non-free
18:43<andrej>deb lenny main contrib non-free
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18:43<streuner>well, some people doesnt read at all ;-)
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18:44<andrej>so got the answer to my mount problem ?
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19:02<luxh>hi, i'm playing a little with the rt2x00 wireless driver and have some problem with the firmware. is /lib/firmware really the right place to put it in etch (amd64)?
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19:02<klaes>dpkg etch
19:02<dpkg>Etch is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Ask me about <install debian>. Please read the release notes at which also contain the upgrade procedure for upgrading from the previous version of Debian stable (<sarge>).
19:02<klaes>dpkg, tell me etch
19:02<jagerman>luxh: I think it should go in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware
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19:02<klaes>was just trying the bot :)
19:02<stew>luxh: /lib/firmware is the correct location
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19:04<luxh>hm. i'll try to put it in that hotplug dir too
19:05<jagerman>It's one or the other, and before that, it was the other :)
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19:05<luxh>didn't work though
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19:08<klaes>hmm, im getting an annoying output when i try to "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
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19:08<paveq>any ideas how to get 3d rendering working, I got ati proprietaty driver loaded, but it can't find dri
19:08<klaes>it runs the whole thing and then gives me an error that i cant seem to solve, runs through the whole setup and then just wont update the xorg.conf file...
19:09<klaes>paveq, are you loading "dri" in your xorg.conf file?
19:09<klaes>paveq, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
19:10<paveq>klaes: yep
19:10<klaes>paveq, tried to rmmod dri and then modprobe dri again?? dunno what to do really, just shooting a bit in the dark :)
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19:11<klaes>anyways, then when it finishes, i get: xserver-xorg/config/device/driver not set. Aborting. Reconfigure the X server
19:11<paveq>heres the error:
19:11<Anonymous101>I am trying to set up an apache2 forward proxy server on debian. I cannot use it to visit any pages outside the computer itself, however... I get a 403 permission denied. I have hunted down every <proxy *> block I could find (mods-available/proxy.conf, tried adding to httpd.conf as well), but I cannot seem to get it to allow me to use it as a proxy server. I've googled and googled and found many simple tutorials... and they don't work. I
19:11<Anonymous101>updating the files, I am restarting the server, other computers on my network can view the regular http site, but they cannot use the proxy server to get to the internet.
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19:11<paveq>klaes: modprobe dri tells me that no module found
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19:12<paveq>dunno, I got the default kernel running
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19:12<jodua>I'm trying to add music to my ipod 4gb nano and am having problems.. can somebody walk me through it?
19:12<Anonymous101>If someone who succesfully managed to set up an apache2 forward proxy server could help me out, I'd much appreciate it.
19:12<klaes>paveq, ehm, im not sure where modules should be... its something... ill just try to find it
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19:12<klaes>paveq, you should have all modules in a special folder, if it cant find it there it wont be loaded either obviously ^^
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19:13<paveq>I wonder in what package it should be included
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19:14<paveq>I just got fglrx-driver package from non-free installed, IMO it should include all necessary dependencies
19:15<gsimmons>Anonymous101: Please provide your Apache configuration at a paste site. Specifically, mods-available/proxy.conf and httpd.conf.
19:15<dpkg>Do not paste more than 3 lines to this channel. Instead, use: or or for pics.
19:15<klaes>paveq, hmm, ye... i can find some modules in /lib/modules/'uname -r' but dunno really...
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19:18<Anonymous101>httpd.conf is empty
19:19<mikes1>Lenny rocks ;)
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19:21<klaes>nobody had any ideas for me?
19:24<gsimmons>Anonymous101: Change "6.6.6.*" to read "6.6.6", reload Apache's configuration and try again. Also, ensure that you have proxy_http_module loaded ("a2enmod proxy_http").
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19:27<paveq>its working now
19:27<paveq>had to compile kernel module with module-assistant
19:28<paveq>and then modprobe fglrx
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19:34<Anonymous101>gsimmons: Thank you, that solved it. >.> I could have SWORN I tried the EXACT SAME setup and it DIDN'T work... but apparently it wasn't exactly the same. Thank you.
19:34<hachi>I see the nvidia/win 33
19:34<hachi>nevermind that
19:34<gsimmons>Anonymous101: np
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19:34<klaes>paveq, ah, cool
19:35<klaes>paveq, well, almost did the same i suppose on my nvidia, using m-a but still... didnt realise that would be the problem :)
19:35<hachi>I see nvidia-glx in non-free... this depends on nvidia-kernel-1.whatever
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19:36<hachi>am I supposed to use nvidia-kernel-source to build this, or ... oh I see it now
19:36<klaes>hachi, yes, you are :)
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19:37<hachi>what are these nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-5-686 packages for then?
19:37<klaes>hachi, you need both that installed by module-assistant, and nvidia-kernel-common, then you can just apt-get install nvidia-glx
19:37<hachi>they depend on nvidia-kernel-common, but I don't see that
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19:37<klaes>hachi, never mind those, they will come automatically, in the right form when you got other things set :)
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19:37<klaes>hachi, then it installs the one that is correct for your system
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19:39<hachi>huh, those packages exist for 2.6.18
19:39<hachi>but not for 2.6.22
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19:40<hachi>that says to install nvidia-kernel-common
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19:40<hachi>my box is saying there's no installation candidate
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19:43<hachi>yeah... it's not working
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19:44<klaes>hachi, did you "m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel-source"
19:44<klaes>hachi, ??
19:44<hachi>yes, I followed the steps on that page
19:44<hachi>it can't find nvidia-kernel-common at the first step
19:44<klaes>hachi, ill just see em again :)
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19:45<hachi>so I removed it and moved on, for giggles
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19:45<hachi>build it all, and it complains that nvidia-kernel-common isn't installed, and removes the kernel package again
19:45<berat>Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
19:45<klaes>hachi, ok... :S
19:45<berat>it is my sound card and i have a problem
19:45<klaes>hachi, try to see if its even in your package directory
19:45<berat>there is no sound
19:45<hachi>apt-cache show nvidia-kernel-common
19:46<hachi>no output
19:46<hachi>oh, it's in contrib
19:46<berat>despite adjusting volume level there is no sound
19:46<hachi>how confusing
19:46<klaes>hachi, kk... ye
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19:46<klaes>hachi, there are also some things in non-free
19:46<hachi>I have non-free but not contrib on my lines
19:46<berat>someone has any suggestion about it ?
19:46<klaes>hachi, aaah, that might help then :)
19:47<hachi>yeah... of course
19:47<klaes>berat, never had any sound? maybe its just muted? ;P
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19:47<klaes>hachi, hehe... then i should think the rest of it runs smoothly... i had some problems after it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
19:48<noseguy>compiz isn't wprking on my new install, any tricks?
19:48<klaes>hachi, but i just got it now :)
19:48<berat>sound on %100
19:49<berat>no muted there is no sound here
19:49<klaes>berat, how about pcm?
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19:49<berat>pcm ?
19:49<berat>i dont understand
19:49<|if3|355>Anyone here know of DECENT voice recognition software, speech to text?
19:50<berat>i am beginenr in debian :::::::::::::S
19:50<|if3|355>I tried sphinx2, but I don't know what programs use it
19:50<klaes>berat, its just a sound thingie... what program you use to see sound level?
19:50<|if3|355>pcm has something to do with sound
19:50<|if3|355>berat, do you use alsa?
19:50<|if3|355>berat, do you use alsa?
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19:50<berat>alsa 1.0.15
19:51<|if3|355>you can change PCM and other volumes in there
19:51<klaes>im thinking he might just have his pcm to 0 and that gives no sound...
19:51<berat>i change volume level from alsamixser gnome-alsamixer
19:51<klaes>i dont have alsa though
19:51<berat>i am changing pcm thats no work
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19:51<|if3|355>berat, what sound card do you have? and what kernel version?
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19:52<berat>kernel 2.6.18
19:52<berat> Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
19:53<berat>sound card
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19:53<|if3|355>did you run alsa-conf, to set up your sound card?
19:54<hachi>klaes: for some reason the nvidia build system build a .o file, but not a .so
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19:54<berat>i use alsa-conf over and over again
19:54<|if3|355>so, anyone here know of GOOD voice recognition software for debian? or linux?
19:54<berat>that not work
19:54<|if3|355>berat, try upgrading your kernel
19:54<|if3|355>do you have any programs open that use sound?
19:55<berat>upgrading dont help me
19:55<|if3|355>some hog the soundcard
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19:55<berat>there are same problem in debian etch lenny and unstable distro
19:55<berat>i have totem rhythmbox
19:55<|if3|355>lcose both of those
19:55<|if3|355>I hate rythmbox :P
19:56<|if3|355>try running another program, like xmms or so
19:56<klaes>hachi, what problems does that cause? i didnt really check what it made, lol... just kinda worked...
19:56<|if3|355>good old depricated xmms
19:56<|if3|355>apt-get install audacious
19:56<hachi>it just doesn't work, I have to build the .so file myself
19:56<hachi>which is annoying
19:56<hachi>I mean, it works
19:56<hachi>but it's not managed by dpkg then
19:56[~]|if3|355 has an avid hate for perl
19:57<hachi>love perl :)
19:57<ce>hey berat, I had some problems with my audio... I've an Asus motherboard... had to pass some option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
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19:57<berat>which option
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19:58<berat>i try lots of option didnt work
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19:58<ce>options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack
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19:58<ce>I had an acute sound in the right speaker and no sound in the other
19:58<ce>* by sound i meant noise
19:59<hachi>now users that aren't root can't start X :\
19:59<berat>i have
19:59<berat>acer aspire 5720
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19:59<berat>my sound card Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
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20:00<berat>entered this option and make alsa-conf right
20:00<peter_>good night
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20:00<ce>it didn't worked ?
20:00<berat>i dont try
20:00<berat>i am trying
20:00<ce>i think you've to reboot
20:01<ce>perhaps if you try a google search with 82801 and those parameters
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20:02<berat>debian has problem and no helpful thing
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20:03<streuner>berat: what does "cat /proc/version" say?
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20:04<berat>Linux version 2.6.18-5-686 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5) ( (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) #1 SMP Sat Dec 1 22:58:58 UTC 2007
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20:04<streuner>and you are running stable/etch?
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20:05<berat>but there is same problem lenny and unstable also
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20:05<streuner>hm, try a "backport" (kernel) then for your sound-problem
20:06<streuner>so the soundcard isnt supported by Linux at all?
20:07<berat>i dont know,
20:07<berat>i am not sure but
20:07<streuner>check out via "Linux <your soundcard" in
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20:07<berat>i have another machine that use snd-intel
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20:07<berat>this works fine
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20:08<streuner>Debian uses the same ALSA stuff like every other distro too...
20:08<|if3|355>alsa is awesome
20:08<|if3|355>I'd die if it wasn't for alsa
20:09<|if3|355>the support for the new OSS lacks
20:09<|if3|355>OSS has good documentation, but isn't up to standards yet :(
20:09<|if3|355>well, it is, but not supported like alsa
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20:09<dpkg>snd-hda-intel is, like, To use it in etch for some chips it helps to m-a a-i alsa because the the 2.6.18-3 kernel has older alsa then the source package in etch
20:11<berat>what can i do jagerman
20:11<ce>did you saw this : ?
20:11<berat>upgrade to lenny
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20:11<|if3|355>dpkg, original ;P
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20:12<jagerman>berat: Well, ISTR the etch kernel has some problems with newer hda chips.
20:12<jagerman>berat: So I suppose upgrading at least your kernel to lenny may help.
20:12<streuner>backports are available
20:12<berat>what is package of linux-backports-modules package o debian ce
20:12<dpkg>well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. or or or ask me about <simple sid backport> and <backport caveat>, or <>
20:12<stew>berat: you can compile new alsa drivers for your current kernel
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20:12<berat>how stew
20:12<streuner>thats another option
20:13<streuner>via alsa-source
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20:13<stew>berat: download an alsa-source .deb from ;then run "aptitude install module-assistant build-essential ; m-a prepare ; m-a a-i alsa"
20:13<streuner>but the easy way is to just install a backport
20:13<stew>berat: err after you download the alsa-source .deb, you would install it with dpkg -i
20:14<berat>i am looking apt-get
20:14<stew>berat: or get a kernel form /msg dpkg bpo
20:15<|if3|355>someone pm me with any answers :P
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20:16<|if3|355>wrong window
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20:19<berat>what is the command to recieve key
20:20<ce>:@ sourceforge sometimes freezes my browser
20:20<streuner>!no public key
20:20<dpkg>Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details.
20:20<streuner>if you refering to just look at there website
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20:21<berat>!ask etch key
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20:22<berat>!ask etch key
20:22<berat>!etch key
20:22<dpkg># apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-get update
20:23<berat>!2006 key
20:23<dpkg>i guess 2006 key is apt ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add -
20:24<streuner>thats only for official keys, if you need other, look at there website (
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20:26<berat>W: GPG error: etch-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C
20:26<berat>W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
20:26<berat>debian:/home/berat/install_flash_player_9_linux# gpg --export EA8E8B2116BA136C | sudo apt-key add
20:26<berat>gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
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20:26<berat>i dont understand
20:26<berat>this mistake
20:26<streuner>well, read (always) /topic first
20:27<streuner>and just install gpg
20:27<berat>a while ago i reciev a key
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20:31<berat>gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
20:31<berat>i took same misttake
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20:33<berat>i hate debian
20:33<berat>and i love debian
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20:37<|if3|355>debian is a fucking hawt distro
20:38<|if3|355>I've only ever used debian based distros though, knoppix, sarge, etch, sid, that's it I believe
20:38<|if3|355>I tried to install ubuntu once, and thank god ubuntu is a peice of crap
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20:39<berat>ubuntu useless
20:39<berat>how about nexenta
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20:40<|if3|355>ubuntu is shit
20:40<|if3|355>needs 512 to install >_>
20:40<|if3|355>but w.e
20:40<|if3|355>etch ftw
20:40<|if3|355>my layout is sexy
20:41<|if3|355>Im going to get a testing server upo
20:41<|if3|355>err testing box*
20:41<|if3|355>install other distro's on it
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20:56<bighouse>anyone knows of a math channel?
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20:59<lupine>#math on ?
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21:07<ubuntu>Does anybody know if it is possible to install Debian without burning a CD?
21:08<lupine>ubuntu: course it is
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21:08<lupine>the Debian installation manual lists about 10 different ways to do it
21:08<ubuntu>lupine, i was trying to install from livecd but it chrashed.
21:08<ubuntu>So now i have no system at all.
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21:29[~]rooster Is yagami still on this channel? (14:05 today). I had same prob with Etch/KDE and got joy.
21:29<xander>how can i setup my hp printer on debian etch???
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21:35<xander> how can i setup my hp printer on debian etch???
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22:01<berat>what is the name of package inux-backports-modules in debian
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23:36<Xenguy>I seem to have a problem with sound; the first app opened 'owns sound', and a 2nd app cannot access sound, and gives error messages...
23:37<dli>Xenguy, try a sound daemon
23:37<Xenguy>I need to know how to 'clobber/kill owners of sound', or, find out how to run multiple apps accessing sound :-)
23:38<dli>!tell Xenguy about esd
23:38<dli>!tell Xenguy about artsd
23:38<Xenguy>dli: do you recommend one over the other?
23:38<dli>Xenguy, gnome uses esd, kde uses artsd
23:39<Xenguy>dli: perfect, tx
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23:39<Xenguy>dli: is this a trivial fix BTW?
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23:40<dli>Xenguy, should be, however, sound daemon may cause more problems by themselves
23:41<Xenguy>dli: sound and printing make me shiver sometimes ;-)
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23:41<dli>Xenguy, printing should be easier with cups
23:42<Xenguy>dli: cups is awesome, and actually works sanely
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23:42<Xenguy>dli: but I know what you mean, printing is tricky in *nix :-)
23:43<dli>Xenguy, yes, if the printer is not well supported
23:43<Guest423>Hey Guyz!
23:44<Xenguy>well, I guess I need to look to sound
23:44[~]Guest423 is away: Gone away for now.
23:44[~]Xenguy requests Guest423 turn off the auto away messages...
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23:49<jay__>whats the command to restart apache2?
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23:49<Xenguy>Yourname`: by 1 good book :-)
23:50<Xenguy>jay__: # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
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23:50<Xenguy>jay__: the # means 'be root'
23:51<jay__>strange i got a fail message
23:51<Xenguy>jay__: ps | aux apache
23:51<jay__>apache2: Syntax error on line 187 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/apache2/modules/ into server: /etc/apache2/modules/ cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
23:51<Xenguy>jay__: is it running?
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23:51<jay__>yea its running
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23:52<jay__>doesnt look like its running anymore
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23:52<Xenguy>jay__: hrm I dunno; you could just uninstall *with purge option*, and then re-install for a quick fix
23:52<jay__>im gonna try restarting
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23:53<Xenguy>jay__: or just # /etc/init.d/apache2 start
23:54[~]Xenguy fetches a glass of wine...
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